5x perfect flail with HCW

[WRoss]

I have come into possession of a 5x a perfect maoral-handled vultite flail. It has permanent heavy crit weighting. It was crafted by Perivan, sung to by Archales, assessed by Allen and Khariz.

It is 6lbs and has a forging of 77/192.
I am currently listening to offers of 30 million or more.
Will set a buy out of 37 million.
AIM is WRossArtley or you can PM me.

[The Ponzzz]

Well, this was discussed on the officials that there has not once been a weighting merchant since player forged didn't add to AS directly. Temp weighting doesn't specify in a loresong nor when assessing.

I hope you really did your homework on it, or you might have been jacked...

[Khariz]

Well, this was discussed on the officials that there has not once been a weighting merchant since player forged didn't add to AS directly. Temp weighting doesn't specify in a loresong nor when assessing.

I hope you really did your homework on it, or you might have been jacked...

The weapon is for real. I've tracked it through the last three owners and their hunting. Unless it's "temp weighting" that lasts through 6 months and thousands of hunts, I seriously doubt this is temporary.

[The Ponzzz]

Yea, I doubt it it COULD last that long, just seems odd seeing no weighting merchants have been around in many years. Not even in plat I hear. Though temp weighting can be reloaded...

[Khariz]

Yea, I doubt it it COULD last that long, just seems odd seeing no weighting merchants have been around in many years. Not even in plat I hear. Though temp weighting can be reloaded...

It's only heavy weighting. Why couldn't someone have used Premium points to do it? Or is that not possible on crafted weapons?

/shrug

[WRoss]

Why would Mykill, Madmoutnain and Archales all test it an not see anything about temp weighting?

[The Ponzzz]

Premium Points can't weight anything.

Pre-Scripted 300
Alter Scroll 600
Autoscripter 600
Titles 1200
Ezscript 1800
Lighten/Deepen 600
Typeahead 900
Enhancive level 1 or 2 1800
Enhancive level 3 or 4 2400

Flare Adding
Flare 0x 500+(0/2)*100=500
Flare 1x 500+(5/2)*100=750
Flare 2x 500+(10/2)*100=1000
Flare 3x 500+(15/2)*100=1250
Flare 4x 500+(20/2)*100=1500
Flare 5x 1500+(25-20)*100=2000
Flare 6x 1500+(30-20)*100=2500
Flare 7x 1500+(35-20)*100=3000
Flare 8x 1500+(40-20)*100=3500
Flare 9x 1500+(45-20)*100=4000
Flare 10x 1500+(50-20)*100=4500

Enchant Scripted item from x to x
Enchant Script 0x-1x 1000+0+500=1500
Enchant Script 1x-2x 1000+500+500=2000
Enchant Script 2x-3x 1000+1000+500=2500
Enchant Script 3x-4x 1000+1500+500=3000
Enchant Script 4x-5x 1000+2000+500=3500
Enchant Script 5x-6x 1000+2500+500=4000
Enchant Script 6x-7x 1000+3000+500=4500
Enchant Script 7x-8x 1000+3500+500=5000
Enchant Script 8x-9x 1000+4000+500=5500
Enchant Script 9x-10x 1000+4500+500=6000

Enchant Claidhmore
Enchant 0x-1x 4000+1000=5000
Enchant 1x-2x 4000+2000=6000
Enchant 2x-3x 4000+3000=7000
Enchant 3x-4x 4000+4000=8000
Enchant 4x-5x 4000+5000=9000
Enchant 5x-6x 4000+6000=10000
Enchant 6x-7x 4000+7000=11000
Enchant 7x-8x 4000+8000=12000
Enchant 8x-9x 4000+9000=13000
Enchant 9x-10x 4000+10000=14000

Add Padding
Pad 0x Armor 2x10+0*100=2000
Pad 1x Armor 2x10+5*100=2500
Pad 2x Armor 2x10+10*100=3000
Pad 3x Armor 2x10+15*100=3500
Pad 4x Armor 2x10+20*100=4000
Pad 5x Armor 2x10+25*100=4500
Pad 6x Armor 2x10+30*100=5000
Pad 7x Armor 2x10+35*100=5500
Pad 8x Armor 2x10+40*100=6000
Pad 9x Armor 2x10+45*100=6500
Pad 10x Armor 2x10+50*100=7000

Enchant Costs
Enchant 0x-1x 0+500=500
Enchant 1x-2x 500+500=1000
Enchant 2x-3x 1000+500=1500
Enchant 3x-4x 1500+500=2000
Enchant 4x-5x 2000+500=2500
Enchant 5x-6x 2500+500=3000
Enchant 6x-7x 3000+500=3500
Enchant 7x-8x 3500+500=4000
Enchant 8x-9x 4000+500=4500
Enchant 9x-10x 4500+500=5000

Enchant Flared item from x to x
Enchant Flare 0x-1x 1000+0+500=1500
Enchant Flare 1x-2x 1000+500+500=2000
Enchant Flare 2x-3x 1000+1000+500=2500
Enchant Flare 3x-4x 1000+1500+500=3000
Enchant Flare 4x-5x 1000+2000+500=3500
Enchant Flare 5x-6x 1000+2500+500=4000
Enchant Flare 6x-7x 1000+3000+500=4500
Enchant Flare 7x-8x 1000+3500+500=5000
Enchant Flare 8x-9x 1000+4000+500=5500
Enchant Flare 9x-10x 1000+4500+500=6000

[Khariz]

Oh okay, it's just padding? Damn shame.

[WRoss]

Andraste says, "I see it, just nothing is screaming temporary at me, offhand."
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* Faelliynne joins the adventure.
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* Stoniemeadow joins the adventure.
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* Zoraes joins the adventure.
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* Abigaill joins the adventure.
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Andraste asks, "What makes you think it's temporary?"

[The Ponzzz]

Yea I don't know why 3 people would lie, nor can I believe it lasted as long as it did if it was temp weighting, I'm just saying, the temp weighting stuff didn't show up in longsungs or assesses and I wanted to make sure you double checked so you didn't get ripped off.

[Khariz]

Yea I don't know why 3 people would lie, nor can I believe it lasted as long as it did if it was temp weighting, I'm just saying, the temp weighting stuff didn't show up in longsungs or assesses and I wanted to make sure you double checked so you didn't get ripped off.

Looks like ANdraste cleared that up.

[The Ponzzz]

Well there ya go, I'm not trying to attack any of you, just wanted you to double check.

[Khariz]

Yea I don't know why 3 people would lie, nor can I believe it lasted as long as it did if it was temp weighting, I'm just saying, the temp weighting stuff didn't show up in longsungs or assesses and I wanted to make sure you double checked so you didn't get ripped off.

It's all good, nobody want's to get ripped off.

[WRoss]

That being said, would anyone have any interest in this?

[Celephais]

Why not just see how much it would cost to recharge it... if you get a quote, then it's temp, otherwise it's not (or it's fully charged).

Does that work?

[WRoss]

I got a GM to check it out, its not temp weighting

[WRoss]

but to make you happy
>order 5
Duane looks down at the flail in your right hand and quips, "I don't know what you think you're enhancing with that, but I can't help you with it."

[bubbauno]

So since you have been following it from previous owners can you explain to us when and how the weighting was added? I don't claim to know everything, but I can guarantee there has been no possible way to add weighting to weapons since forging was released.

[Stunseed]

I don't know of a weighting service since forging has come out, personally. However, I'm not the end-all be-all. I'm not questioning since you've had a GM check it, but I know I'd remove all doubts by finding out what merchant worked on it to legitimize the properties.

[Stunseed]

And what Tsin said.

[Khariz]

So since you have been following it from previous owners can you explain to us when and how the weighting was added? I don't claim to know everything, but I can guarantee there has been no possible way to add weighting to weapons since forging was released.

Past 3 owners. It was heavily weighted the first time I laid eyes on it in the Landing.

[The Ponzzz]

God fucking damnit, I just puked alittle that Tsin wondered the same thing as me. I need to kill myself.

[Lord Orbstar]

I would be more worried that he tried to charge you 40m for having the same thought and tell you it was a good deal.

[The Ponzzz]

Oh FUCK!!

[Slark]

Maybe somebody got an item nerfed and in exchange one of the GMs provided them some sort of weighting service? Haven't similar things happened in the past?

[WRoss]

I'm researching it and the GM's don't seem to be excited over it...so yeah...

[WRoss]

Ok, so here is the deal. I got a few staff look at this item. They testified that it is what I said it is but are curious as to why. They are going to research it and get back to me within a week. So until then. I guess I'll continue to hunt with it and own.

[Perivan]

The weapon is for real. I've tracked it through the last three owners and their hunting. Unless it's "temp weighting" that lasts through 6 months and thousands of hunts, I seriously doubt this is temporary.

A friend just pointed this thread out to me. For what it's worth: this item was in my hands--and only my hands--from its creation until it was sold out of my shop sometime between December 23rd, 2006 and January 7th, 2007. When it was sold, it was a vanilla 4x perfectly forged vultite flail.

I have no idea how the weapon got enchanted and heavily crit weighted in a matter of a few weeks, but it certainly hasn't been that way for "6 months and thousands of hunts."

[Khariz]

A friend just pointed this thread out to me. For what it's worth: this item was in my hands--and only my hands--from its creation until it was sold out of my shop sometime between December 23rd, 2006 and January 7th, 2007. When it was sold, it was a vanilla 4x perfectly forged vultite flail.

I have no idea how the weapon got enchanted and heavily crit weighted in a matter of a few weeks, but it certainly hasn't been that way for "6 months and thousands of hunts."

I may have had my times wrong, but you have yours wrong as well. Someone (name not recalled) bought it months ago, and showed it to me, and I assessed it.

Then about a week later, Fuaru, I believe bought it. He hunted with it a while, pasting hits from his hunts to me via AIM. Now, weeks later, he has sold it , and it is in it's current possession. Those are the three owners I speak of. I admit that It may not have been 6 months, but it certainly hasn't been two weeks either.

Edit: Also, it was weighted like this the second the first person showed it to me. I have never seen it in any other form, but as currently weighted.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

oh snap

[Soulpieced]

Sounds pretty fishy to me in terms of how it may have been done.

[Stunseed]

I don't think you will find a seller unless someone can provide proof, such as the merchant service it was weighted at. Temporary weighting is not shown in an assessment, I believe.

[Khariz]

I don't think you will find a seller unless someone can provide proof, such as the merchant service it was weighted at. Temporary weighting is not shown in an assessment, I believe.

Did we forget about the part where the GM already confirmed it, and the GM's are suspicious about it and looking into it?

It's weighted alright, though I agree somewhat suspiciously.

[Perivan]

I may have had my times wrong, but you have yours wrong as well. Someone (name not recalled) bought it months ago, and showed it to me, and I assessed it.

Then about a week later, Fuaru, I believe bought it. He hunted with it a while, pasting hits from his hunts to me via AIM. Now, weeks later, he has sold it , and it is in it's current possession. Those are the three owners I speak of. I admit that It may not have been 6 months, but it certainly hasn't been two weeks either.

Edit: Also, it was weighted like this the second the first person showed it to me. I have never seen it in any other form, but as currently weighted.

From my log dated December 23, 2006:


>get shop mani
You remove a shop manifest from in your leather cloak.
>read mani
SHOP INVENTORY
Inventory for Perivan's Weaponry

On a vine-carved mahogany table...
a perfect maoral-handled vultite flail: 5150000 (1)
a perfect mithril-hilted vultite broadsword: 5150000 (1)

...

Your current balance is 100000.






From my log dated January 7, 2006 (the next time I logged in):



>get shop mani
You remove a shop manifest from in your leather cloak.
>read mani
SHOP INVENTORY
Inventory for Perivan's Weaponry

On a vine-carved mahogany table...
a perfect mithril-hilted vultite broadsword: 5150000 (1)

...

Your current balance is 5136668.


I have no incentive to lie about any of this.

[Khariz]

Well not like I didn't know that was coming. Pretty darn predictable.

If it has only been in play for two weeks (three now), then it's pretty amazing how many times it has changed hands.

I stand corrected, and I apologize for accusing you of lying.

[Stunseed]

< Did we forget about the part where the GM already confirmed it, and the GM's are suspicious about it and looking into it? >

No, I didn't forget. If you ask 50 GM's a question, you'll get 40 different answers. It's not the issue, weighted or not. The issue is the claim of permanent weighting, which I ( among others ) question.

I don't care about whomever's timeline, truth be told. I'm also not interested in the weapon, so maybe I should STFU. :)

[Khariz]

< Did we forget about the part where the GM already confirmed it, and the GM's are suspicious about it and looking into it? >

No, I didn't forget. If you ask 50 GM's a question, you'll get 40 different answers. It's not the issue, weighted or not. The issue is the claim of permanent weighting, which I ( among others ) question.

I don't care about whomever's timeline, truth be told. I'm also not interested in the weapon, so maybe I should STFU. :)

This is definitely true. I've gotten two different answers 5 mins. back to back from two different GMs. :club:

[TheEschaton]

Andraste said nothing screams of temporary weighting to her, that could be taken at face value, or be taken to mean "IT is temporary but it's not supposed to be visible so I'm not gonna tell you that.

Also, Perivan, is it possible someone else might of made a perfect, vultite, flail?

-TheE-

[Perivan]

Also, Perivan, is it possible someone else might of made a perfect, vultite, flail?

-TheE-

The original poster said the weapon has my character's forging mark on it. The forging mark gets added when the forger vises the weapon, and to date I've only vised one perfect vultite flail. So this weapon is either the one I forged and recently sold or its origins are even more questionable.

[WRoss]

still no word from GMs...

[WRoss]

it got nerfed, WHINE!

[Spendel]

Why did it get nerfed? What did they say?

Reading this thread was like reading a good short mystery story.

[Lord Orbstar]

I used to own a onyx studded glaes club. It was naturally 3x, as in +15. It could be ebladed and such thus making it a 7x flaring weapon (morning star base) usable by level 8 and up. there were 3 of them that slipped thru and into the market before the GMs "fixed" them. Mine was one of two still buggy.

I used it quietly and enjoyed it. You should have enjoyed your weapon too.

basically: never ask a question you don't want to know the answer to.

[Xaerve]

basically: never ask a question you don't want to know the answer to.

Especially with the GMs in this game. They have no qualms about nerfing an item. Has happened to me a few times too. Good Advice.

[JohnDoe]

I thought hosts, GMs, etc. could take payment for their services via in game services (padding, enchanting, weighting, etc.), but were not supposed to transfer their item to another player's character. Any chance that happened?

[AestheticDeath]

I thought hosts, GMs, etc. could take payment for their services via in game services (padding, enchanting, weighting, etc.), but were not supposed to transfer their item to another player's character. Any chance that happened?

Thats exactly what I was assuming had happened. Most likely was too.

[Jinsem]

I thought hosts, GMs, etc. could take payment for their services via in game services (padding, enchanting, weighting, etc.), but were not supposed to transfer their item to another player's character. Any chance that happened?

They can definately make there rounds after a GM uses the points on something. One GM in particular made a killing on his items when he sold most of them all off.

Jinsem
Misses the Back Street Boy GM :(