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AestheticDeath
01-10-2007, 12:27 AM
Something just went awry! Luckily, you were able to salvage the attempt.

Gotten this twice today, and wondering what actually makes it occur. Is it the hidden die roll for disarming? And what makes me salvage instead of setting it off?

jpatter123
01-11-2007, 03:36 PM
yer lucky... everytime I get the awry message I end up dead or in the pokey. My guess its a roll of 1.

Gan
01-11-2007, 03:59 PM
From my understanding its a disarming attempt of 1 (fumble).

And usually I, as well, wind up in jail or dead if I see that message on a disarming attempt.

I have noticed however, that the fines for fumbled/tripped traps in town have lessened (at least in Illistim). Luckily I have not received a fine yet that I could not recover in 1 hunt in OTF.

AestheticDeath
01-11-2007, 06:59 PM
Yeah so.. Is there a second roll if you roll a 1 the first time? Or is it pure skill overcoming the thing. I mean the traps I was disarming are like 1/3 of his skill level.

Pretty much every time before I messed up, it just went off. And then not only do I fumble twice within like 20 boxs, but I save each fumble. Odd

Gan
01-11-2007, 07:03 PM
Just from the context of the message it would appear that mechanically there is a second roll.

You might post this on the officials for porcell to see it. He might know the actual numbers/formula for it.

TheEschaton
01-11-2007, 07:14 PM
I think the level vs. skill thing, in conjunction with actual levels, might be true. My rogue only ever gets that message when he's opening boxes far below his skill level. I think maybe at half his level?

In conjunction with actual levels simply means: a 100 train rogue can probably save a fumble on a 50 level box, a 50 rogue might not be able to save a fumble on a 25 train box? Just because the experience compresses so much?

-TheE-

AestheticDeath
01-11-2007, 07:19 PM
Eh I would say it has more to do with skill than level if its there. Or it would make more sense to me anyways. Cause my lvl 28 rogue can pick lvl 40-50 boxs, and he only has 50 ranks in disarm/pick - no lore either. And of course those boxs depend on which creature it comes from.. I am sure there are some lvl 30ish boxs he would have trouble with. I just dont hunt those areas.