Sorry for dumb question

[Hemloch]

Hello, sorry for a dumb question...can you run 2 accounts at the same time on one computer, just open 2 windows?

[Skeeter]

yes. easily

[Xaerve]

yes

[Celephais]

If you're using the Wizard FE, watch about for scripts, the wizard likes to use 100% processor when a script is running, so if one account is running a script the other instance of the wizard could be sluggish.

[Hemloch]

Thank you..Skeeter just noticed your from Dayton, OH ..lol so am I ..small world.

[LordKabaril]

If you're using the Wizard FE, watch about for scripts, the wizard likes to use 100% processor when a script is running, so if one account is running a script the other instance of the wizard could be sluggish.

Yeah, if you're running a 433 with 32 MB of RAM lol... some people have no problems with four and five accounts with scripts running on multiple accounts.

[Gan]

For future reference its referred to as MA'ing. (Multi-Accounting).

Its a very common practice.

Also, if you must play two at once, practice so you can keep up the RP going on both rather than zombie'ing one while working the other. Or, if you must zombie one (camp) then park it at a table, which makes a great place for utility endeavors like picking boxes, spelling up, healing, etc.

Also set your options to open up individual profiles for each character, so you can toggle between them and know which one you're playing, so you dont carry on a conversation with the wrong character. That can be very embarrasing.

There's an etiquitte involved if you want to maintain a minimal level of respect.

[Gan]

If you're using the Wizard FE, watch about for scripts, the wizard likes to use 100% processor when a script is running, so if one account is running a script the other instance of the wizard could be sluggish.

Or you can use SF and hog more resources consistently instead of just when scripting on FE.

[StrayRogue]

I've never noticed any problems running 3+ accounts, all with scripts going at once using the Wizard.

[Gan]

The only thing running multiple scripts on FE does to my system is kick up the fan noise. I notice no degradation in CPU performance. And thats with other things running in the background other than Gemstone.

[Bobmuhthol]

That's probably because you aren't running pauseless, infinite loops in your scripts. Try doing that for a while and you'll notice that your processor is probably going to have more activity.

[Gan]

Probably true. However, I do not have a need for pauseless, infinite loop scripts other than when I'm working on rogue guild reps. While its pauseless its only infinite as it pertains to the task at hand.

[Celephais]

Yeah, if you're running a 433 with 32 MB of RAM lol... some people have no problems with four and five accounts with scripts running on multiple accounts.

Uh... no it'll eat 100% processor power on a single thread, regardless of the power of the CPU. It might not make the other instance slugish, it becomes a problem if you have some sort of process running in the background (be it another FE or your buring a CD, whatever) it won't get nearly as much of the processor as it should.

It's not a big issue unless you have one character running a script that's built to respond to another character (who you have in the foreground) and then you run a long running script in the foreground (say a hunting script).

The resource footprint of SF pales in comparison to the wizard if you're running hunting scripts on both accounts.

[Gan]

Has anyone monitored CPU performance with multiple FE scripts running on a dual-core processor?

[Celephais]

Has anyone monitored CPU performance with multiple FE scripts running on a dual-core processor?

The wizard FE is single threaded, even scripts aren't run on a seperate thread. So I imagine you would peg a single logical CPU, the other CPU will be free to run the other FE (then it's up to the OS to properly allocate the threads to seperate logical CPUs)

[Gan]

The wizard FE is single threaded, even scripts aren't run on a seperate thread. So I imagine you would peg a single logical CPU, the other CPU will be free to run the other FE (then it's up to the OS to properly allocate the threads to seperate logical CPUs)

Its scary that I understood that.

:help:

[Celephais]

Its scary that I understood that.

:help:

Ignorance is bliss... LordKabaril can tell you all about that.

[The Ponzzz]

Yea, I run into issues using Wizard FE on 2 gigs of ram.

[Jinsem]

Yea, I run into issues using Wizard FE on 2 gigs of ram.

Can I ask what issues? I've been known to MA now and then, and really can't see any issues on my PC. Most would consider my PC overly outdated too. Unless of course you bring SF into it. SF bogs me down harshly.

I can run up to 9 accts (all I have access to) and have zero issues with ALL running scripts. Multiple scenarios too.

I really wanna know BTW, this isn't my normal smart ass self being me ;)

Jinsem

[Renaden]

I actually have had five accouts up and running at the same time, worked fine:welcome: :club: :club:

[AestheticDeath]

Its not just multiple instances of wizFE causing a problem, its running on a script on each instance of the game. Your CPU usage or whatever gets topped out at 100% if you run more then one script at a time. Doesnt mean it wont work... just uses everything it can for some reason.

[Celephais]

Yeah I never stated it wouldn't work, I'm just saying it's not good for your CPU or any other programs you might be running. The wizard's scripting engine is not throttled by any means. As for people stating that the wizard is resource hungry... it may be comparitively, but I bet if you run any scripts that aren't just instant and you're not "running a 433 with 32mb of ram", you'll find stormfront to be more efficient. Each instance of SF uses about 32 ram, so you're looking at about 288 to run 9 instances... odds are if you have nine accounts, you've invested enough in the game to invest enough in a computer that can handle that. I'm kind of curious what kind of issues you run into Jinsem, and what kind of computer. And do you run scripts on your 9 accounts concurrently (IE long running scripts)

I'm also kind of curious about your usage of the 9 accounts, do they hunt together or do most of them sit at a table? I had a second account but I hardly ever played it, I had it hunting with another character of mine and generally had it running on another computer (and he would just run a script that reacted to whatever my primary character was doing/requested)

[Jinsem]

I'm kind of curious what kind of issues you run into Jinsem, and what kind of computer. And do you run scripts on your 9 accounts concurrently (IE long running scripts)

I pay for 5 accts, borrow 2 quite a bit and have access to 2 more. I'm usually only running 5, unless I'm doing something special. My core group all work off of script bound macro's and I point click in each window. I like to be able to dictate the order of attack personally. It's also how I've been doing it since AOL days. Yes I had multiple accts even back then ;)

I
'm also kind of curious about your usage of the 9 accounts, do they hunt together or do most of them sit at a table?

When I'm doing my wizlings, I usually leave my empath at the table, and then take the wizards out on a follow script. My sorc controls the group with whisper commands. So that is 5 accts with a "MATCH" script running at all times. I have zero issue with that using the Wizard. Two SF's get opened and my system drags to a freaking hault.

When I cash hunt it can get kinda messy with the scripts. When I skin for cash I have 3 background scripts running with the leader using 2 scripts over and over. I use F1 to run around and F2 to kill. I kinda dislike making everything 100% robotic, although with 1 exra line in the my runner it would be.

If I armor hunt, yes ARMOR hunt, my scripts are going pretty much 24/7. I clean up the area so that no one can tell what I am doing, less they insist on watching. That takes.... 4 scripts. More accts in the area equals more critters right ;)

I got this put up so I could show my layout once again. I can physically watch 7 accts at once, if need be, and this is on a 17".

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Oddchic87/MyAccts.jpg

Lastly, sorry for the late reply. I forgot about this thread till I logged in to check my PM's.

Jinsem

[AestheticDeath]

Are you using dial-up AOL?

[Jinsem]

Are you using dial-up AOL?

I use cable internet. When I was doing AOL Dial-up 3 accts were about the max for the bandwidth. Least from my experience. Luckily I was only stuck on dial-up for a while in the last 5 years...

Jinsem

[Gan]

Sheesh thats a lot to look at...

You need dual monitors.

[jpatter123]

Has anyone monitored CPU performance with multiple FE scripts running on a dual-core processor?


probably the best route would be to set the affinity for each account to one core or the other, so whatever account your running a resource draining script can be set to its own core by itself. All you need to do is control alt delete click on the IE icon and go to process then set affinity.I can run 5 accounts on my X2 4600 running scripts on all 5 accounts with no where near half usage on either core using stormfront. My system is definetly NOT an off the shelf system though. I know this doesn't answer your Wizard question.
When MA'ing off my laptop even in stormfront however I do get really bad slowdown when running infinte loop scripts and the worst is running the bus company script.

[Gan]

I've heard that the SBC script was a nightmare to run with regards to being a resource hog. I personally dont use it since I have others that are sufficient for my needs.