Skin Quality and Sale Value

[Drunken Durfin]

I have always been an avid skinner. With the introduction of the Adventurer's Guild (one of the best things to happen to the game in a while) skin quality has come to the attention of a lot more folks. I noticed some oddities in sale prices for skins based on their quality, so I went out and whacked 105 critters and did a comparison of the sale price of their hide based on the quality of the skin itself. The table below is a summary of my findings.

The Appraised values are a product of Durfin's own Appraisal done outside of the furrier. The Actual values are what the skin sold for factoring in Trading skill (71), town citizenship and racial bonus.



http://www.trialteamone.com/sturgis/SkinChart.GIF



It strikes me as odd that, on average, Outstanding quality skins would fetch more at the furrier than Magnificent quality ones. Furthermore, one would think that a Magnificent skin would ALWAYS fetch a higher price than a Fair, Fine or Exceptional skin. Having a variance in sale price is a necessary factor, of course, but it just seems that the quality delimiters don't really affect the silver amount in a definitive way.

Drunken Durfin

AIM: DrunkenDurfin
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"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."

[g++]

You could make a chart of the deviations from norm you get just appraising multiple times, appraise gives a rough estimate if you take a pelt out and appraise it 100 times you can get wildly different values. As far as your deviations on actual sale that could easily also be caused by the in precise nature of the appraise verb


You turn the griffin pelt over in your hands, meticulously inspecting for flaws. As best you can tell, the pelt is in decent shape.
Roundtime: 3 sec.
R>appraise my pelt
You turn the griffin pelt over in your hands, meticulously inspecting for flaws. You estimate that the griffin pelt is of superb quality and worth approximately 1300 silvers!
Roundtime: 3 sec.
R>appraise my pelt
...wait 1 seconds.
R>appraise my pelt
You turn the griffin pelt over in your hands, meticulously inspecting for flaws. As best you can tell, the pelt is in decent shape.
Roundtime: 3 sec.
R>appraise my pelt
You turn the griffin pelt over in your hands, meticulously inspecting for flaws. You estimate that the griffin pelt is of magnificent quality and worth approximately 1350 silvers!
Roundtime: 3 sec.

Maybe training in trading helps but its unlikely it makes it perfect.

[Drunken Durfin]

1x trading skill at 71 trains. No "wild" deviation noted, although I did not do it 100 times.

R>app my cara
You turn the fog beetle carapace over in your hands, meticulously inspecting for flaws. You estimate that the fog beetle carapace is of outstanding quality and worth approximately 1700 silvers.
Roundtime: 3 sec.
R>
A jungle troll asks, "Slarlor'rabr' r'ro truo r'krulurpr ir nra?"
R>app my cara
You turn the fog beetle carapace over in your hands, meticulously inspecting for flaws. You estimate that the fog beetle carapace is of outstanding quality and worth approximately 1700 silvers.
Roundtime: 3 sec.
R>app my cara
You turn the fog beetle carapace over in your hands, meticulously inspecting for flaws. You estimate that the fog beetle carapace is of outstanding quality and worth approximately 1700 silvers.
Roundtime: 3 sec.
R>app my cara
You turn the fog beetle carapace over in your hands, meticulously inspecting for flaws. You estimate that the fog beetle carapace is of outstanding quality and worth approximately 1700 silvers.
Roundtime: 3 sec.
R>app my cara
You turn the fog beetle carapace over in your hands, meticulously inspecting for flaws. You estimate that the fog beetle carapace is of outstanding quality and worth approximately 1700 silvers.
Roundtime: 3 sec.
R>app my cara
You turn the fog beetle carapace over in your hands, meticulously inspecting for flaws. You estimate that the fog beetle carapace is of outstanding quality and worth approximately 1700 silvers.
Roundtime: 3 sec.
R>app my cara
You turn the fog beetle carapace over in your hands, meticulously inspecting for flaws. You estimate that the fog beetle carapace is of outstanding quality and worth approximately 1700 silvers.
Roundtime: 3 sec.

[g++]

Alright its still an estimate, which can cause some deviation, at least within the 50 range, I admit I wasnt aware trading skill make it that precise some other things to look at, the range for outstanding and magnificent are large and overlap in a large area, which basicly makes the distinction pointless(using your data to make that statement). Maybe something interesting to try would be to get 20 mag skins and app and immediately sell and 20 outstanding and app and immed sell and post the log although obviously that would take alot of time and suck

[Krendeli]

I hope the skins you are using are from the same type of critter because I believe that skin value also changes with how heavily a critter is hunted.

[Drunken Durfin]

All were fog beetles and from one hunt, took about 30 minutes.

[AestheticDeath]

I have a question..

Assume two training paths.
One with 303 ranks of first aid, and 202 ranks of survival.
The other with 303/FA and 101 survival.

Would the difference of 101 ranks of survival give a noticable difference in skin value?

[Drunken Durfin]

That would depend on what it is that you are skinning. There are maximum amounts that you can get for any given type of critter's skin. If you are skinning something at your train or higher, then yes, you will see a difference in the skin value. Also, some critters are extremely hard to skin. Fog beetles are way below my current train, but I am able to skin them much better now than when I was getting exp from them and as a result get a much higher price when I sell them.

[AestheticDeath]

I see. Thanks.

[Ignot]

Some critters got better skins then others maybe. Maybe it has nothing to do with your skinning ability.

[AestheticDeath]

I just went out for a trip to the glacier, hunting giants and titans.. Took me 42 kills just to find a box.. But while I was killing them I figured I would skin them too..

Got back with around 55 toes.. And total price came out to 3000 silver or so. Was only getting 20-60 coins per toe, from a lvl 40ish critter. I can skin rats or kobolds and roltons for more then that.