UF with the toughest NCAA schedule this season receives the championship bid.

[Sean of the Thread]

FUCK YOU BIG 10. Get a real schedule then cry me a river.

[Skeeter]

go play Boise state for the mid-major bowl

[Sean]

I'm not a big fan of Florida but I'd rather watch them play OSU than see a Michigan rematch.

[Hulkein]

I'm glad Florida is getting their shot, but Big-10 teams have tough games just like SEC teams do.

[Keller]

OSU barely beat Michigan at the Horseshoe.

A rematch was in order -- especially when you consider a shitty team like Florida is now going into Tempe to get stomped by OSU. This wont even be a game.

[Latrinsorm]

RUTGERS SHUD BE IN CHAPMIONSHPI OMG BCS BROKN

[Apathy]

Florida is going to get housed. Not even worth watching.

[Sean of the Thread]

Maybe they'll get hosed.. maybe not. Fact is they are NUMBER 2.. via POLL AND BCS and had the now agreed upon toughest schedule in NCAA this year.

EAT IT SKEET.

(chances are they'll get hosed.. but as usc proved.. any loser can lose any week)

[Drew]

I absolutely HATE U of Florida but I felt they deserved the chance to go more than Michigan. ESPN has a good article on it:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=2684345


We really need an eight team playoff in college football.

[Marl]

I think Florida(even though I hate the schools existence) will take it to OSU. Any team in the SEC > Other conferences pat scheduling. If it wasnt for the in conference games I would place money on it that SEC teams would make up the top 5 every year. I agree with the payoff system over the BCS bullshit they have now.

[Hulkein]

I love the SEC jock-riders.

Your conference isn't God's gift to college football, get over it.

[Sean of the Thread]

.

Your conference isn't God's gift to college football, get over it.

Sounds like you're the one that has to get over it.

[Marl]

I love the SEC jock-riders.

Your conference isn't God's gift to college football, get over it.

Sure it is. Sooner you understand that fact the better off you will be.

[Solkern]

michigan > flordia

the BEST two teams should be playing in the championship game, and it should be a rematch. if flordia played michigan, michigan would win

michigan > OSU in a neutral site


sean2's post > everyone else

[Makkah]

lol @ Michigan dick-riders...

You had your shot. Join a conference with enough teams to support a Championship game.

SEC >>> all

[Solkern]

actually i'm a big 12 man

<~~ longhorns fan

[Hulkein]

What was the SEC's record in bowl games against non-conference teams last year again? 3-3 with your two best teams losing? Look at that .500 dominance!!!

[Solkern]

What was the SEC's record in bowl games against non-conference teams last year again? 3-3 with your two best teams losing? Look at that .500 dominance!!!


f34R the .500 dominance!

[Sean of the Thread]

What was the SEC's record in bowl games against non-conference teams last year again? 3-3 with your two best teams losing? Look at that .500 dominance!!!

Ok so since you think any other season besides the current matters...


SEC IN 2004

* Has the most teams ranked in this week's Associated Press and USA Today/ESPN polls and Bowl Championship Series Top 25 ratings. The five teams ranked this week are (AP/USA Today-ESPN/BCS): 3/3/3 Auburn, 8/7/7 Georgia, 13/12/11 LSU, 15/15/15 Tennessee and 20/19/22 Florida.

* Has had more different teams ranked in the Associated Press and USA Today/ESPN Top 10 than any other conference. The SEC has had five different teams at one time or another ranked in the Top 10 this season - Auburn, Florida, Georgia, LSU and Tennessee.

* Among the six teams that have been ranked at one time or another in the Associated Press and USA Today/ESPN Top 25 polls this season, the longest losing streak by any team has been two - once by Florida and once by South Carolina.

* Eight SEC teams defeated a team this season that was ranked in the Associated Press or USA Today/ESPN Top 25 at the time the game was played.

* For the first time since 1957-58, every SEC team has won a conference game in consecutive seasons. (Depth of the league)

* The SEC had more intra-conference games decided by five-points-or-less than any other conference in the nation. The league had 15 of its 48 league games or 31.3 percent decided by five points or less. The MAC was next with 14 of 56, followed by the Big Ten 10 of 44 and Big 12 with 10 of 48.

* Among all Division I-A conferences, the SEC attempted less pass plays per game than any other conference in the nation (27.5) ... The league also averaged less plays per game than any other conference (67.0) and was 8th of 11 conferences in total offensive yards per game (367.8). (League’s strong defensive play)

* In four of the six computer polls used by the BCS, eight SEC teams are in the top 50. In the other two, five SEC teams are in the top 50.

* The SEC is the only conference of the three that has four teams with nine wins or more. The next highest total in a league is the Big Ten with three teams with nine wins or more. No other conference has more than two.

* The SEC has five teams ranked in the nation's top 20 in total defense.

* The SEC has five teams ranked in the nation's top 35 in total offense.

SEC FOOTBALL HISTORY

* The SEC has had 15 national champions in the Associated Press, USA Today/ESPN, Football Writers Association of America and United Press International final polls.

* Since conference expansion in 1992, four different SEC teams have claimed national championships – Alabama (1992), Florida (1996), Tennessee (1998) and LSU (2003).

* In its history, the SEC has won 72.4 percent of its non-conference games (2203-811-91). This season, the SEC was 25-11 in non-conference games (69.4) percentage. The SEC has won at least 60 percent of its non-conference games every year since 1982.

* The SEC continually leads the nation in attendance and this year may be no different. The league teams drew 5.8 million fans in 78 games, an average of 74,416 fans per game. League stadiums were filled to an average of 95.87 percent of capacity in 2004. For 23 straight seasons, the SEC has led the nation in total attendance.

* Last season, the SEC posted five bowl wins, tied with the ACC for most in the nation. Using current conference alignments, the SEC leads the nation with 172 bowl wins in its history.

* During the last three years, the Southeastern Conference has had eight student-athletes honored by the National Football Foundation as Scholar-Athletes. The eight represent one-third of the 24 that the NFF has honored the last three seasons and is most of any conference in the nation. This year, Georgia quarterback David Greene and Tennessee offensive lineman Michael Munoz achieved the honor.

[stallion4]

SEC = deepest conference for one reason. They are all PRETTY GOOD. There is no juggernaut team in the SEC like OSU or Michigan (both of which are head and shoulders above any SEC team). Coaches didn't want to see a rematch, reports didn't want to see a rematch yet isn't it funny that EVERYONE agrees that Michigan is the 2nd best team in the country? Rematch = bad $$$ making schemes and media hype they've already beaten into the ground leading up to the Nov. 18th game. All you sad, sad, dillusional SEC fans need to realize that just because your conference is DEEP..doesn't make it the most talented overall. Throw anyone of those teams on the field with OSU/Michigan and kiss 'em goodnight.

Just for kicks..LSU is the best team in the SEC in my opinion. And..Fuck Notre Dame.

[Sean of the Thread]

yet isn't it funny that EVERYONE agrees that Michigan is the 2nd best team in the country? R


They do?

[stallion4]

Edited to add: Listen to any NON SEC homers like the goofs posting on here and you'll see that everyone is saying Michigan is #2 in reality. Does anyone here really think Florida is better than Michigan? Sad.

Every reporter on stage on the Sports Reporters yesterday did. Biggest names in the biz. And then everyone but 1 guy basically bitched about the need for a playoff. Florida had a tough schedule..I give them that. But look at their wins. (don't gimme that winning is winning crap) OSU did this shit in 2002 and had there been a situation like this I would have said they didn't deserve to get in with the ways in which they won. No doubt Florida is a good team and the SEC has several good teams. None are GREAT. I'm not saying Florida will lose by 4 touchdowns but they will be close if not over double digit dogs. Squeeking by those pretty good schools..laughable.

[Sean of the Thread]

Lol Delusional.

Scoreboard says! UF #2

[stallion4]

Yes..Florida #2. January 8th we'll see how the game goes. I definately think it'll be a decent game for a half or so. Florida got pretty banged up in that Arkansas game..that dude breakin his arm was pretty gross. Anyways..big game..heisman winner (landslide by the way)...best coach in the country..Florida is in trouble. Should be interesting..everyone breathed a sigh of relief as Ohio State fans when Florida got picked. Funny really..ah well. Anything can happen! LoL

[TheEschaton]

I'm an ACC man, and I still think that Florida deserves to go against OSU.

-TheE-

[Hulkein]

I scanned those stats, but there is no mention of how the SEC teams did in bowl games in 2004. I know they are consistently ranked good (and they are the best conference, I'm not denying that), but the rankings are often a product of the conference being overrated as a whole. And yes, it is possible to be the best and be overrated.

If you're gonna google info, google how the SEC teams did in bowl games against non-conference teams in 2004. I don't remember how they did in 2004 like I remembered how they did in 2005.

As I said in the beginning of the thread, I am glad Florida is getting their shot and feel they are more deserving, so don't take this as saying Michigan should be playing.


Ok so since you think any other season besides the current matters...


SEC IN 2004

* Has the most teams ranked in this week's Associated Press and USA Today/ESPN polls and Bowl Championship Series Top 25 ratings. The five teams ranked this week are (AP/USA Today-ESPN/BCS): 3/3/3 Auburn, 8/7/7 Georgia, 13/12/11 LSU, 15/15/15 Tennessee and 20/19/22 Florida.

* Has had more different teams ranked in the Associated Press and USA Today/ESPN Top 10 than any other conference. The SEC has had five different teams at one time or another ranked in the Top 10 this season - Auburn, Florida, Georgia, LSU and Tennessee.

* Among the six teams that have been ranked at one time or another in the Associated Press and USA Today/ESPN Top 25 polls this season, the longest losing streak by any team has been two - once by Florida and once by South Carolina.

* Eight SEC teams defeated a team this season that was ranked in the Associated Press or USA Today/ESPN Top 25 at the time the game was played.

* For the first time since 1957-58, every SEC team has won a conference game in consecutive seasons. (Depth of the league)

* The SEC had more intra-conference games decided by five-points-or-less than any other conference in the nation. The league had 15 of its 48 league games or 31.3 percent decided by five points or less. The MAC was next with 14 of 56, followed by the Big Ten 10 of 44 and Big 12 with 10 of 48.

* Among all Division I-A conferences, the SEC attempted less pass plays per game than any other conference in the nation (27.5) ... The league also averaged less plays per game than any other conference (67.0) and was 8th of 11 conferences in total offensive yards per game (367.8). (League’s strong defensive play)

* In four of the six computer polls used by the BCS, eight SEC teams are in the top 50. In the other two, five SEC teams are in the top 50.

* The SEC is the only conference of the three that has four teams with nine wins or more. The next highest total in a league is the Big Ten with three teams with nine wins or more. No other conference has more than two.

* The SEC has five teams ranked in the nation's top 20 in total defense.

* The SEC has five teams ranked in the nation's top 35 in total offense.

[stallion4]

I think Georgia got beat by West Virginia last year if I recall correctly. Hmm...

[Sean of the Thread]

Don't even get started on the Big East.

[Hulkein]

Looks like SEC was 3-3 in 2004, too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_NCAA_Division_I-A_football_season

[Latrinsorm]

They attempt the least pass plays per game of any conference, Hulkein, don't be an idiot! That obviously makes them the best, period, end of story.

Oh and the dolphins are definitely the worst team in the NFL. Definitely.

[Hulkein]

Haha, I laughed at that stat, too.

[Solkern]

longhorns are the bestest!

[stallion4]

Don't even get started on the Big East.

hah Amen to that! Was just stating one game I can remember off the top of my head. Not opening that can of worms.

[TheEschaton]

Why do you think we left the Big East. Ha. Losers.

And yet fucking Lousville is playing in a major bowl game and we aren't. Damn it.

-TheE-

[Sean of the Thread]

They attempt the least pass plays per game of any conference, Hulkein, don't be an idiot! That obviously makes them the best, period, end of story.

Oh and the dolphins are definitely the worst team in the NFL. Definitely.

Latrin don't pretend to know about Hetero topics.

[Sean of the Thread]

Big East is VERY solid.

[stallion4]

Why do you think we left the Big East. Ha. Losers.

And yet fucking Lousville is playing in a major bowl game and we aren't. Damn it.

-TheE-

Shhh! No Big East! The last thing we need is some of THOSE fans crawling out of the wood work to state their case.

[Sean of the Thread]

Mon 1/8 489 Florida +8 -107 +270 OVER 48.5 -105
05:00 PM 490 Ohio State -8 -103 -310 UNDER 48.5 -105

[Mistomeer]

michigan > flordia

the BEST two teams should be playing in the championship game, and it should be a rematch. if flordia played michigan, michigan would win

michigan > OSU in a neutral site


sean2's post > everyone else

Anyone who watched the OSU/Michigan game knows that the game wasn't as close as the score. Michigan gave up 300+ yards in the first half. They fought (and did well) in the second half to catch up, but in all reality were just dominated the entire game.

[B2]

I won't say that I'm not happy my team is in the championship game. I do indeed bleed orange and blue.

But I do think Michigan deserved a rematch. We got a rematch in '96! I can't be a hypocrite. We DON'T have a playoff system; Michigan shouldn't be eliminated because they lost. And I think that game would have been a better moneymaker than Florida.

Winning the SEC, winning the Rose Bowl and then bitching about how we SHOULD have had a shot would have made me a happy girl.

I won't COMPLAIN. But I don't really think this is how it should have played out.

[Skeeter]

Sean I can't decide if you just post about college football to stir up trouble (which we all know you like to do) or you're just this clueless about teams.

I guess you've become confused about what constitutes a good team by watching all those South Fl games. The Big East is a joke, they can't beat anyone but each other, and none of them can win a big game on the road. Except for your Bulls who clearly caught a WVU team looking ahead. I wouldn't call that a big game though since USF had nothing to play for. BigEast in football is about as impressive as the A10 in basketball. every now and then a team steps up and makes noise by beating the doormats in their conference then gets smacked down by the real teams.

UM is definately the 2nd best team, and OSU would still beat them at a neutral site. OSU did everything possible to lose the game in Columbus and still won due to superior talent. Would I rather play UF? sure. it's an easy win and I don't have to sweat it. UM would be a much better game, and is the only team in the country that could beat OSU.

I wonder if the SEC contract ESPN has made any difference in the final polls.

[stallion4]

Anyone who watched the OSU/Michigan game knows that the game wasn't as close as the score. Michigan gave up 300+ yards in the first half. They fought (and did well) in the second half to catch up, but in all reality were just dominated the entire game.


Not to mention Doug Datish handed Michigan the ball on 2 rottenass snaps which resulted in fantastic field position. I'm not playing the "what if" card but seriously..that game wasn't as close as it looks on the scoreboard.

[Sean of the Thread]

Was wondering how long it would take the biggest homer and college football retard to show up mumbling something with OSU cock in his mouth.

[stallion4]

Would I rather play UF? sure. it's an easy win and I don't have to sweat it. UM would be a much better game, and is the only team in the country that could beat OSU.



My thoughts exactly. Florida has a shot in this game if Ohio State shoots themselves in the foot repeatedly and in the worst way. Talent wise, Ohio State is hands down the better team. Coaching..same. Big game players..None better than Troy Smith. Florida can make it interesting but they definately don't pose as big a threat as Michigan.

[Skeeter]

Sean you're the Ann Coulter of college football.

[Sean of the Thread]

Sean you're the Ann Coulter of college football.

MUMBLE MUMBLE MUMBLE..

Come up for air man!

[Hulkein]

BigEast in football is about as impressive as the A10 in basketball. every now and then a team steps up and makes noise by beating the doormats in their conference then gets smacked down by the real teams.

About A10 basketball; St. Joe's and Xavier both went to the Elite Eight a few years ago, and they were both a last second shot away from going to the Final Four.

(A10 basketball fan, St Joe's all the way)

[stallion4]

About A10 basketball; St. Joe's and Xavier both went to the Elite Eight a few years ago, and they were both a last second shot away from going to the Final Four.

(A10 basketball fan, St Joe's all the way)

Very good point! Jameer Nelson was lights out. Loved to watch them play.

The fact still remains..Big East football is crap. Anyone here think Louisville, West Virginia, or Rutgers can beat Ohio State or Michigan? Doubt it.

Edited to Add: Maybe Louisville could go join the SEC and just be another pretty good team like the rest of them.

[Skeeter]

I follow A10 basketball as well. I do live in Dayton.

My point is, those teams get on a roll and make some noise, but their never going to win a national championship, because they can't beat the major teams.

[Hulkein]

I agree with you in general, but St Joe's could've won that year. They had the best backcourt in the nation. Your point is more true in football than basketball because in basketball a few players can make a huge difference, where in football if you have a stud RB and QB in a small program, the small program's OLine will get dominated and the defense will get smoked.. Not always true in basketball, just look at Nova beating Georgetown.

[stallion4]

Everyone is pretty much the same size in basketball..people get hot and anyone can win. Beauty of the tourney.

You're just simply outsized when it comes to big boy football. Ohio State has safeties bigger than Big East linebackers..just the way it is. Big East doesn't size up..literally. You can't catch fire and all of a sudden grow to 6'8 325 and match the opposing offensive line.

[Sean of the Thread]

Speed kills. Not to mention that their recruiting classes are becoming better/higher each year.

[stallion4]

Speed kills.

Are you high? They are smaller AND slower. Don't be ridiculous. Speed kills..yes..it kills the 205 lb linebacker that gets fucking hammered by a lineman almost twice his size. Your arguments are getting progressively worse, Sean. I think Skeeter was right..you just say shit to fire up arguments..and in the process make it easier to see you don't know jack shit about what you are posting about.

[Sean of the Thread]

I think Skeeter was right..

We've already seen how idiotic it looks when OSU fans try to think.. your last post is just as stupid.

[stallion4]

How was it stupid? Because I stated facts. Big East = slower, smaller, weaker. You make absolutely no sense and look like a fucking idiot with your one line comebacks that are just plain sad. I'm atleast stating facts..REAL football teams have lines the size in which I stated. You state the speed of a team like Lousiville kills..you are wrong. They are NOT as fast as the REAL football teams. Atleast try to state a REAL fact, dumbass. Go ahead and throw out another shot at "OSU fans trying to think"..that's a real good one liner coming from someone who's stated nothing but slanted, biast, laughable opinions over and over. Big East is bad..period. It's been talked about all year. You ever wonder why they considered any of them winning a Cinderella story? Because they are the little boys on the big big boys playground.They don't size up..open your eyes, idiot.

[Sean of the Thread]

Big East > Big 10.

[stallion4]

Big East > Big 10.

I suppose I should thank you for confirming your stupidity. Next!

[Hulkein]

Big East > Big 10.

That's hysterical. Two of the top three teams in the nation are from the Big 10. After the BCS game it might be THE top two teams in the nation are from the Big 10.

[stallion4]

Don't bother, Hulkein. The guy is a fucking moron.

Edited to Add: But you ARE right.

[Sean of the Thread]

No sir you're the moron for letting me fire your stupid ass up. Stick to things you know like Gemstone clerics (rofl).

This entire thread since it's inception has made me tingle with glee. I give it 5 stars.

[stallion4]

Fired up? I was sitting here laughing at how stupid one person can be. You've perked my day at the office up. Like I said..Thank you!

It was a debate in my eyes..not a rip session or angry argument. I enjoyed it thoroughly. I'm a huge football fan and I love to discuss it. Even if it is with a fucking idiot like yourself.

[Sean of the Thread]

Clearly it wasn't a debate douche that's why I'm laughing.

[Skeeter]

Anne Coulter could actually BE Sean2

http://www.rawilson.com/images/coulter.jpg

[Sean of the Thread]

That's not an adams apple thats a cock pocket.

[Drew]

best coach in the country.



Haha, way to lose all credibility. Tressel is one of the worst calls in college football history away from not having a job.



Man, I really hate Florida but I think the one thing I hate more is sanctimonious Ohio State fans. Best University evar that lets anyone who wants to attend in.


How do you get an Ohio State Graduate off your front porch?

Pay him for the pizza.

[Sean of the Thread]

hahahah! Coker is the worst coach in college football history.

[Drew]

Given your ability to pick the "Worsts" in sports I'll just say nothing.

[Sean of the Thread]

By saying nothing you agree Coker sucks.

[Skeeter]

Coker did manage to turn a great program into garbage in 5 years.

[Solkern]

Mack brown = the best

[Skeeter]

How long did it take Mack to beat Oklahoma?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Stallion4
You're just simply outsized when it comes to big boy football. Ohio State has safeties bigger than Big East linebackers..just the way it is. Big East doesn't size up..literally. You can't catch fire and all of a sudden grow to 6'8 325 and match the opposing offensive line.

Your really just talking out of your ass unless your argument is that OSU safetys are bigger than OSU LBs as well and that OSU LBs then by definition don't size up and play BIG BOY FOOTBALL. Unless your argument is that an average 5lbs makes OSU LBS THE MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE. Honestly though it doesn't really matter but you kinda look like an asshole when you fall back on the FACT platform without actually looking at the facts.

Anyway before we even get started even though I'm a big east fan I don't think RU, LV, or WVU should have been playing in a national title game, you can ask skeet about it as I've said it a bunch of times before. So it's not even about me thinking a big east team would beat OSU at this point.

Heres a sample of real big boy football for starters though:

AFC East:
New York Jets = 6'1 242.3lbs
Buffalo Bills = 6'0 240.7lbs
Miami Dolphins = 6'1 238.3lbs
New England Patriots = 6'2 252.7lbs

Big East: (I'm only gonna take RU, LV, WVU)
Rutgers:
6'3 225
6'2 225
5'11 215
6'2 230
6'2 225
6'1 240
6'2 225
6'2 225
6'0 220
6'3 220
6'0 225
6'3 235
5'11 220
5'10 212
avg wt: 224

LV:
6'1 219
6'1 232
6'2 230
6'1 214
6'1 230
6'4 230
6'3 217
6'1 220
6'3 225
6'3 225
6'3 267
avg wt:228


WVU:
5'11 210
6'3 225
6'3 220
6'1 220
6'1 230
6'2 220
6'3 230
6'3 240
5'11 225
6'1 190
6'2 235
6'2 245
6'1 255
6'3 230
6'2 215
6'0 220
Avg wt: 226

OSU:
6'2 242
6'3 225
6'1 237
6'4 240
6'1 233
6'3 244
6'3 215
6'0 230
6'1 205
6'3 242
6'2 234
avg wt:231

[RichardCranium]

The fact of the matter is that pretty unbeaten record Ohio State has wouldn't last three weeks in the SEC, let alone a full season plus the conference championship game.

[Alfster]

That's hysterical. Two of the top three teams in the nation are from the Big 10. After the BCS game it might be THE top two teams in the nation are from the Big 10.

Don't forget about Number 5 (or 6 depending on poll) being from the big 10 as well.

Wisconsin FTW

[RichardCranium]

By the way, Florida didn't even have the toughest schedule in the conference. LSU played Auburn, Florida, Tennessee and Arkansas all on the road. All four were in the Top 8 at the time.

That said, I'm glad Florida's there since it couldn't be LSU.

[Sean of the Thread]

The consensus is that UF had the toughest schedule in NCAA. Sorry LSU homer.

[Apathy]

Maybe LSU and UF should team up and play OSU together...that may give them a shot of at least covering the spread.

[RichardCranium]

Four Top 8 teams on the road. I don't care what the consensus says, nobody has a tougher schedule than that.

As for Ohio State taking both LSU and UF at the same time, well...

We'll see on Jan. 8th.

[Solkern]

Maybe LSU and UF should team up and play OSU together...that may give them a shot of at least covering the spread.


rofl

[Apathy]

5:00 pm USC -1.5
at Michigan +1.5
47.5 ov

Are you shitting me? Michigan is going to make it a very happy holiday.

[Sean of the Thread]

Yeah the "so called second best team" in the nation are dogs to USCHOKE.

[Apathy]

USC shouldn't even be in a BCS bowl.

[Skeeter]

Lloyd Carr is like 2-9 in bowl games. I wouldn't be so quick to make that bet.


and Which team in the SEC would have beat OSU so easily?

[RichardCranium]

Take your pick. Play any combination Auburn, Florida, Tenneesee, LSU, Alabama, and Georgia.

Ohio State's a juggernaut? Please. It's hard to lose when you've only played two teams worth a damn all year long.

[Apathy]

Georgia and Alabama are about as good as Purdue and Penn State. Whooptie do.

[Hulkein]

BUT THEY ARE IN TEH SEC!!!!

[Mistomeer]

Not to mention Doug Datish handed Michigan the ball on 2 rottenass snaps which resulted in fantastic field position. I'm not playing the "what if" card but seriously..that game wasn't as close as it looks on the scoreboard.

Exactly. Michigan's last TD to even make the game 42-39 was in garbage time. Ohio State has 3 turnovers to Michigan's 0 turnovers and Michigan still can't win, or even make it a close game. That was a dream scenario for Michigan and the only time they led the game was when it was 7-0.

[RichardCranium]

Georgia and Alabama are about as good as Purdue and Penn State. Whooptie do.

Georgia and Alabama are far superior to Purdue and Penn State.





BUT THEY ARE IN TEH SEC!!!!

Exactly. Our 'pretty good' teams can smoke just about anyone else's conference champions.

[Apathy]

Exactly. Our 'pretty good' teams can smoke just about anyone else's conference champions.

In what sport? Shuffleboard?

[B2]

Frisbee, fo sho. I still have a University of Florida Ultimate Club Team shirt somewhere. UFUCT!

It is really hard to talk shit about being in an unstoppable conference when you keep losing Outback Bowls to, say, Iowa. Useless middle state.

To stop scalping, UF is requiring students to pick up their tickets in Glendale. With their Driver's license and their student ID. So much for $175 tickets...even if I find a chick that looks like me who wins the ticket lottery, I need to convince her that she doesn't need her school ID during the first week of class for books and scheduling and lunch and such, and that going to bars during the first week back from break is way uncool.

Or, I could just party in the parking lot like I have for the past three bowl games.

[Sean of the Thread]

I've priced the trip FOR 2 and it's in the retard 5 grand area.

HOWEVER I hit the OUTBACK BOWL every year. <3 Ray jay.. nicest stadium in the SE and I've been to them all yet ray jay is only 20 minutes across the bay.

[B2]

I may have to settle for going to the Emerald Bowl in full Orange and Blue gear, and cheering against FSU.

It'll be about a grand cheaper than a flight to Glendale, hotel, booze, and other assorted party fees.

I just can't rationalize spending so much on the trip. I'd add "right now", but I'm too Jewish to EVER spend 5 grand on a trip like that.

[Hulkein]

So how about the Big 10 getting the most first-team All-Americans?

[Keller]

So how about the Big 10 getting the most first-team All-Americans?


It's only because SEC players had to compete against each other and since they're all super-human athletes they all looked mediocre.

[RichardCranium]

Hate it all you want, but the SEC is THE best conference in the nation.

[Sean of the Thread]

TRUE

[Skeeter]

Morons

[Keller]

[Say] it all you want, but the SEC is [not] THE best conference in the nation.

qft

[RichardCranium]

Morons




Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCranium
[Say] it all you want, but the SEC is [not] THE best conference in the nation.



Wow, such witty retorts. Keller, you might as well have said 'I'm rubber and you're glue...'. What is this, grade school?

Why don't you guys offer up some reasons why the SEC is NOT the best conference in college football? I'll give you something in return. Tell me which other conference had five teams in the top 13 at the same time during the course of the season. And they had seven in the top 25 at one point or another.

[Apathy]

Wow, such witty retorts. Keller, you might as well have said 'I'm rubber and you're glue...'. What is this, grade school?

Why don't you guys offer up some reasons why the SEC is NOT the best conference in college football? I'll give you something in return. Tell me which other conference had five teams in the top 13 at the same time during the course of the season. And they had seven in the top 25 at one point or another.

The Big Ten went 33-12 in non-conference games to match its modern-era record for regular-season non-conference victories. SEC 42-9. Slight edge to SEC.

All time heads up: 86-91-6 in favor of the Big 10

All three finalists for the Bednarik Award, which goes to the defensive player of the year, are Big Ten players. It's the first time in the 12-year history of the award that all of the finalists are from the same league. It's also the first time two are from the same school: Penn State linebackers Paul Posluszny and Dan Connor. The other finalist is Michigan defensive end LaMarr Woodley. Posluszny won the Bednarik last year; if he wins it again he'll join former Northwestern linebacker now NU head coach Pat Fitzgerald as the only repeat winner.

The Big Ten produced three of the four finalists for the Lombardi Award, which goes to the outstanding lineman on either side of the ball. The Big Ten is represented by Posluszny, Woodley and Quinn Pitcock of Ohio State.

Ohio State's 19-game winning streak is the nation's longest active.

The Big Ten boasts three teams (Ohio State, Michigan and Wisconsin) with 11 or more victories for the first time in conference history. The SEC has 1.

The SEC has nine teams playing in bowl games this season, very good, lets take a look:

Florida (BCS championship game Jan. 8 vs. Ohio State)
LSU (Sugar Bowl on Jan. 3 vs. Notre Dame) - Notre Dame is the Big 10's bastard child.
Arkansas (Capital One Bowl on Jan. 1 vs. Wisconsin)
Auburn (Cotton Bowl on Jan. 1 vs. Nebraska)
Tennessee (Outback Bowl on Jan. 1 vs. Penn State)
Georgia (Chick-fil-A Bowl on Dec. 30 vs. Virginia Tech)
South Carolina (Liberty Bowl on Dec. 29 vs. Houston)
Kentucky (Music City Bowl on Dec. 29 vs. Clemson)
Alabama (Independence Bowl on Dec. 28 vs. Oklahoma State).

3 of those 9 bowls are against the Big 10. 3 are consolation bowls. 3 against a different conference. Not counting our squatter's rights over ND either.

Florida S Reggie Nelson is one of three finalists for the Jim Thorpe Award that will be handed out tonight to the nation's top defensive back. The other finalists are Michigan CB Leon Hall and Texas CB Aaron Ross.

Ole Miss LB Patrick Willis is a finalist for the Butkus Award that will be awarded tonight to the nation's top linebacker. The other finalists are Ohio State's James Laurinaitis and Penn State's Paul Posluszny.

Arkansas C Jonathan Luigs is one of six finalists for the Rimington Trophy that will be awarded tonight to the nation's top center. The other finalists are Michigan's Mark Bihl, Ohio State's Doug Datish, Southern California's Ryan Kalil, West Virginia's Dan Mozes and Rutgers' Darnell Stapleton.

Arkansas RB Darren McFadden is a finalist for the Doak Walker Award that will be given out tonight to the nation's top running back. McFadden is competing with Michigan's Mike Hart and West Virginia's Steve Slaton.

And finally: Only the following SEC schools have been on probation in the past 20 years: Alabama, Kentucky, Georgia, Florida, Mississippi State, Mississippi, Tennessee, South Carolina, Auburn, Arkansas, and LSU. Vanderbilt has not.

BOILER UP!

and don't forget DickHead, your NFL savior was farmed, taught, and sent out of the best damn Big10 school out there.

[Keller]

Wow, such witty retorts. Keller, you might as well have said 'I'm rubber and you're glue...'. What is this, grade school?


See, the funny thing about this is that my alteration of your statement was merely to show how simple-minded and juvenile "We're the best, WAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!" was. I guess I ended up looking stupid, huh? :)

[RichardCranium]

Stating facts is juvenile and stupid?

[Sean of the Thread]

If you measure the success of a conference based solely on the number of NFL athletes produced.. SEC is the best.

Isn't that the ultimate measuring device?

[Apathy]

What about the number of college dropouts?

[Keller]

Stating facts is juvenile and stupid?

Especially when you misconstrue facts for opinion.

This is just getting silly.

[RichardCranium]

My opinion happens to be fact.

[Keller]

My opinion happens to be fact.


:)

Well said.

[Sean of the Thread]

This is just getting silly.

The SEC jealousy is pretty silly.

[Latrinsorm]

Isn't that the ultimate measuring device?Only if you suppose that college football is just the minor league(s) of the NFL. I'd say the best measurements would be performance against the same opponents and head-to-head matchups.

[B2]

This made me giggles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFwERRJOl_E

Go Gators.

[Sean of the Thread]

This made me giggles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFwERRJOl_E

Go Gators.

AHHAHAHAHA

ahhahahahah

That's golden.

[Skeeter]

http://www.buckeyesvsgators.com/

The heisman one makes me giggle.

[Skeeter]

I was all set to watch a football game and an academic contest broke out.

NOBODY CARES ABOUT ACADEMICS. If they did everyone would root for the Ivy league.

[Sean of the Thread]

You overrate that skit almost as bad as Troy Smith is overrated.

[Drew]

I've got the Gators as 8 point dogs, anyone else bet on this yet?

[Apathy]

Careful trigger, OSU missed 1 cover all season.