UCLA student gets tazored by cops.

[Kefka]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JGlvEcPmug


Granted the kid was being a jerk and should've complied, but tazored 5 times? I've never been tazored before, but I imagine it might be a lil hard to move around normally after being shocked. Is it too much to just handcuff the guy and drag him away?

[Sietzer]

Five times is a to much, the poor student could have had something wrong. One time, and how many cops were there 3-5 they could have handcuffed a single student and took him outside with ease.

[Augie]

The worst is that when you get tazered you'll most likely have limited motor abilities and then those assholes were screaming at him to get up.

[ELO]

I like the college kids trying to lecture the cops. Did they miss the 100x he was asked to stand up? They know their jobs. Stfu and go back to studying.

[Hulkein]

I really have no sympathy for the kid.

[Xaerve]

I really have no sympathy for the kid.

^

[Hulkein]

PS. I love how he yells about the Patriot Act, what a loser.

[xtc]

5 times seems excessive. If he doesn't want to show his student card simply deny him access to the library (no tazering needed).

I think the problem here was they were University cops i.e. rent a cops. From my experience in Uni, these guys are the worst, a bunch of wannabes.

[Landrion]

At the end of the day, theres no lasting harm. Thats the good thing about a tazer. Im glad we live in a day and age where the nightstick has a less harmful deterrent ahead of it. Much less the firearm.

[Skirmisher]

At the end of the day, theres no lasting harm. Thats the good thing about a taser. I'm glad we live in a day and age where the nightstick has a less harmful deterrent ahead of it. Much less the firearm.

While i agree a taser can be the least harmful option in some cases there have been cases where deaths have occurred after an individual was tased.

No doubt i'd rather be tased than shot so in those cases tase away, but this individual was not wielding a weapon or threatening anyone and one would think that two decent sized cops could have picked him up and escorted him out.

They certainly could have after the initial tasing, if not before, thereby pretty much negating any need for further use of the device.

He was being rather loud and disruptive so the initial tasing isn't so hard to justify but after that I think it became unecessary.

[DeV]

Someone already summed it up. Rent-a-cops, wannabees, and so on.

I don't feel sorry for the kid in the least, but seriously, these are the guys that were picked on in high school and since they could never make it as a real cop...

[Celephais]

He should have warn interacted the cops.

[Parkbandit]

Those security cops violated his rights and were probably doing it because he was liberal and against the patriot act and the war. I bet those cops were fucking republicans!











(I will use italics to post in sarcasm as it sometimes confuses the readers.)

[Skirmisher]

He should have warn interacted the cops.

Okay that was kinda funny.

[Kefka]

After being tasered the first time, was it possible to comply to the officers' demands? Thought one of the results of being shocked was that it temporarily messed with one's motor functions. I still fail to see their inability to just cuff him and haul him off.

[DeV]

They were camping him.

Clearly once was not enough.

[Meges]

Some people just like PvP. I feel sorry for the Host that's going to get the student's assist though.


Meges

[ElanthianSiren]

...and vast sums of gold will change hands (or whatever you WoW'ers use)

-M

[Augie]

He should have warn interacted the cops.

:lolwave: I needed that giggle.

[Sietzer]

He should have warn interacted the cops.

I laughed at that. Made my day.

[Gan]

The officer was authorized to use force (tazer) if the aggressor (student) respresented a threat and would not peaceably allow himself to be detained and removed from the premise. Once the tazer has been employed, the target should be restrained using physical restraints then removed. The point of the tazer is to immobilize and neutralize any aggressive threat directed towards an officer, employment of restraints are in most cases easily achieved after the target is tazed. So far the cop(s) are in the right.

After restraining the target (student) the cops then repeatedly ask the student to stand up, even with verbal objections denoting his inability or intention to remain prone and restrained, the cops employed the tazer again, and again. First mistake, employing tazer when no threat existed (remained) after seeking compliance from a possible unreasonable request.

At some point backup was called and more officers arrived at the scene and still no move was made to reasonably remove the target (student) by force, ie. picking up restrained prisoner. Instead the officers repeatedly issued verbal orders for target to stand and employed tazer when target would not comply. Second and third mistake, and fourth, fifth, etc. mistakes.

If this were an inmate in a Texas prison, he would have been subdued through a major use of force (tazer, take down, night stick, pepper spray, etc) then restrained, then brought to a standing position by multiple officers lifting him so and walked if able, or placed on a stretcher if not, to the infirmary, all while being video-recorded.

Even though different use of force guidelines and laws exist in this case, it was clearly an excessive use of force on the part of the officers, especially after the target was restrained. That is the key. Once restraints are applied, the threat is typically neutralized. Additionally once additional officers arrive on the scene, the threat is further neutralized.

I forsee a hefty lawsuit coming from the student as well as a review of campus use of force guidelines and disciplinary actions against the officers involved up to and possibly including criminal charges and individual civil charges.

[Hulkein]

He'll get cash, but he's still a dumbass who I'd vote against if I was in the jury just to stick it to this hipster-clown.

[Sietzer]

He'll get cash, but he's still a dumbass who I'd vote against if I was in the jury just to stick it to this hipster-clown.

Though he may be a Jerk, which from the looks of it he is. Nobody should be treated like that, if they are not a threat or if force like that is needed.

[Latrinsorm]

I'm curious as to what thought process can take the environment of being tasered and handcuffed in some way, receive the input of "stand up", and output the response of "fuck you". ?!?!?!?!? Who could possibly think that was a good idea?

[radamanthys]

Ironic as it is, I got into a fistfight because of a heated argument about this topic last night.

[Gan]

No doubt the student was being an idiot, thats what prescribed attention from law enforcement to begin with. Its just that in this case, the cops were bigger idiots.

[radamanthys]

I agree with Latrin on that.. that was pretty damned idiotic.

[DeV]

Who could possibly think that was a good idea?Someone in need of a little shock therapy.

[Sietzer]

I agree the Student was being a huge ass, but he still wasnt a big enough threat to have been tasered 5 times, instead of only once, then carried off. There were 3-5 guys there, it would have been rather simple for that. I personally think the policement, were acting like Eric Cartman when he was after the Chickenfucker(Sorry if that offends anyone).

[Daniel]

Lol @ offending someone here.

[Sean of the Thread]

Fry that liberal limp minded student.

[xtc]

Fry that liberal limp minded student.

Sean2 (Xyelin) always good for a sound bite.

[Skeeter]

Obviously one of the cops was jpatter123 with the continuous and excessive use of stun.

[Landrion]

Obviously one of the cops was jpatter123 with the continuous and excessive use of stun.

nice!

[Celephais]

Obviously one of the cops was jpatter123 with the continuous and excessive use of stun.

You're two pages too late.

[Tisket]

Totally unecessary use of force by rent-a-cop bullies. God bless the students that spoke up during the incident. I think it would've gone harder on that student otherwise.

[Keller]

My wife is currently TA'ing a near-eastern history class and this kid is in her section.

She said he's an aggressive, annoying twit in section and probably deserved what he had coming.

She's also a bleeding heart liberal -- so he must truly be a dick.