Sorcerer Development in GS4

[GOD]

Ya i was just curious as to what types of sorcerers are in GS4 now, and how they are created and maintained. . .any input?

-John

[GOD]

No up to date sorcerer training guides at all?

-John

[Fallen]

Runestaff user, Sword and Board user, and Brawling sorcerer. The War Sorc is an option, but eh.

You can have a bent more towards Necro, or Demonology, or you can not bother with the lores at all.

[GOD]

So what would a base training plan for a runestaff necro sorcerer look like. . . if you could draw one up real quick, id appreciate it.

John

[Sean of the Thread]

<---brawling sorc no lores.

[Asha]

War sorc as in Archer sorc just fucking pwns.
You want a training guide PM me.

[Gan]

A few threads that have touched on your question(s). You'll find some good points in each that will help you.

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=19655

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=18211

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=18122

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=15351

[GOD]

can i get the starting stat placement for a dark elf staff using sorcerer?

-John

[Sean of the Thread]

From level 1?

[Asha]

I'd say end of instant reallocation.

[GOD]

ya stat placement from start. . . i found a training plan in the first link so i was just designing around that.

-John

[Asha]

Place stats for something simple. The reallocate away from that at the last minute with something you'd have placed at start for a stave user.
Just slightly altered for growth from 0-10?

[GOD]

sure

[Sean of the Thread]

Yeah I'd plan to start as a sword and board then fixskills out depending how far you get by next may. You don't want to start as a staff user...

[GOD]

how would you do stats & train for sword & shield?

-John

[GOD]

So could any 1 draw up a training regimen for what we've discussed?

-John

[RichardCranium]

What happened to the sorcerer you trained up and moved to Ta'Vaalor when you still had Surgla?

[GOD]

I wish i rememberd the name of the account or any of the information

[AestheticDeath]

You might be able to call up Simu 636-925-3172 (damnit I have Simus # memorized... is that bad?)

And give them your CC# and get accounts that were closed down with that billing info. Worth it to call, say you dont recall you account name etc, see how they will work with you. At least... if the character has any levels or gear.

[GOD]

Im not sure of any of the CC#'s that were using during that time frame. . . i cant even remembers whos credit cards the games were on. . .(i know they were all legit credit cards i just dont remember who let me put em on there cards. . .)

-J

[AestheticDeath]

... try paying for the account yourself this time

[GOD]

Well anyways since im at this point now i was wondering if anyone could sumarize in one reply starting stats and a decent training plan for a d.elf sorcerer that will lean towards the necromancer type.

-J

[AestheticDeath]

http://tsoran.com/trainerGS4.4.2.7.zip

I stopped making plans for people, but using that spreadsheet you can figure out all the stats and training without much trouble.

Each of the stats for a dark elf sorcerer will max at 100 if you use these numbers..

str - 88
con - 85
dex - 62
agl - 73
dis - 68
aur - 49
log - 62
int - 73
wis - 62
inf - 73

Obviously thats too many points. 695, when you only get 660. Most people tank one stat, normally CON, or INF, sometimes STR. I prefer INF right now as I dont see a use for it.

[GOD]

ya i got that, but i need to know what to train the charecter in and what not

[AestheticDeath]

Magic skills. 1x everything - cant go wrong with that. :P

Level: 15
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 89 (19) ... 89 (19)
Constitution (CON): 87 (13) ... 87 (13)
Dexterity (DEX): 69 (19) ... 69 (19)
Agility (AGI): 78 (19) ... 78 (19)
Discipline (DIS): 74 (2) ... 74 (2)
Aura (AUR): 63 (16) ... 63 (16)
Logic (LOG): 69 (9) ... 69 (9)
Intuition (INT): 78 (19) ... 78 (19)
Wisdom (WIS): 69 (14) ... 69 (14)
Influence (INF): 45 (-7) ... 45 (-7)
Mana: 52

(at level 15), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Physical Fitness...................| 74 16
Harness Power......................| 78 17
Elemental Mana Control.............| 78 17
Spirit Mana Control................| 50 10
Sorcerous Lore - Necromancy........| 5 1

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 6

Spell Lists
Minor Spirit.......................| 7

Spell Lists
Sorcerer...........................| 35

Thats my sorcerer right now. I kinda screwed up what I was doing. Had his stats set up for max CS while training him(max aura and wisdom), and tried to triple spells, and harness power. At the younger levels DS wasnt much of an issue especially with mass spells from the park. Stopped playing him after bout 2-3 weeks, and realized his free month was almost up, so I re-did his stats for max growth. And left his training at what I had with the other stats. I may wind up using his fixskills if I start playing him again.

My other sorcerer is deactivated right now, but I had him trained to utilize maelstrom and implosion.
I had
1x shield
1x brawling
PT until max health
climb/swim as you need it
1x perception if you like
1x arcane symbols
1x MIU
1x harness power
2x spell aiming
1x elem mana control
1x spirit control
rest in spells and didnt mess with lores

Make sure and fully single in sorcerer circle, go for whatever else you like/need.

[Necromancer]

I'll chime in (btw if you want some more help, you can IM me at JesseREvans, and I can go over stuff with ya)

Maxing stats for 100 is a bit unrealistic for the vast majority of sorcerers honestly, and with the addition of fixstats potions into GS via the AG it's even less important. Personally I'd suggest placing stats for TP maximizing. So get your mental stats up high from the get-go, and just be sure you have enough STR and/or CON to deal with encumbrance (though phase helps with this now).


Strength (STR): 64
Constitution (CON): 40
Dexterity (DEX): 45
Agility (AGI): 45
Discipline (DIS): 70
Aura (AUR): 85
Logic (LOG): 83
Intuition (INT): 83
Wisdom (WIS): 85
Influence (INF): 60

Those are my starting stats, and I've been quite happy with the results. TPs are quite important, particularly at lower levels, as is CS. Tanking mental stats will allow for a favorable position with both issues.

As far as skills go...

1x elemental mana control
1x spiritual mana control
1x harness power (Be CoL...just do it sans an RP reason not to)
1.5x necromancy (you'll need it for AD unfortunately)
.5x demonology (you'll want it for CoS and phase, if not minor summoning)
2.3x spells
2x spell aiming (you can lower this later around your 40s or 50s if you want)
1x MIU
1x AS (you can increase both of these later, and I highly suggest it, but 1x in each is fine for early trains)

Hope that helps

[AestheticDeath]

Maxing stats is totally doable. Its how I got my other sorcerer to 32 in GS3 before they fucked us all over. I just didnt hunt with CS spells. I doubled spell aiming and used maelstrom. It never failed. All I had to have was 10-20 mana per kill. And back then I got 3 mana per level.. these days you can get 5 or more mana per level.

[Necromancer]

The FM strategy is not very effective later in life. You can't afford to stand around a creature that long, and you end up spending a lot of mana to keep them in the room.

[zhelas]

Here is my sorcerer and he is practicing for Necromancy. Changing the 2x in spell aim to 1x as was mentioned above has been bouncing around in my mind but the real benefit i see right now is FI and aimed limb disrupt. I have seen posts here by other sorcerers who hunt OTF where they have a focused Maelstroms running. This has saved their behinds when they have been in round time.

I agree with the COL. At a young age you might want to consider 2x in harness power then as you get older reduce it to 1x. If you decide to become a volner, you might want to consider 1.5x in hp. When you get to 4 or 5 trains, find a sorcerer to teach you sacrifice. This will extend your hunts. Costs 2 spirit points but when I was hunting in stronghold i could get 78 mana from a sacrifice.

Name: Zhelas Grondumast Race: Dark Elf Profession: Sorcerer (Post name shown as: Necromancer)
Level: 69 Gender: Male Age: 472

Experience:
Experience: 4380227 Next level at: 4415000 exp. Exp. until next lvl: 34773
Fame: 15368903 Deeds: 38 Deaths this level: 0
Your mind is as clear as a bell.

Level 0 Stats for Zhelas, Dark Elf Sorcerer

Strength (STR): 70
Constitution (CON): 50
Dexterity (DEX): 60
Agility (AGI): 50
Discipline (DIS): 80
Aura (AUR): 80
Logic (LOG): 70
Intuition (INT): 60
Wisdom (WIS): 80
Influence (INF): 60

Stats: Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 79 (14) ... 79 (14)
Constitution (CON): 67 (3) ... 67 (3)
Dexterity (DEX): 88 (29) ... 88 (29)
Agility (AGL): 77 (18) ... 77 (18)
Discipline (DIS): 100 (15) ... 100 (15)
Aura (AUR): 100 (35) ... 100 (35)
Logic (LOG): 95 (22) ... 95 (22)
Intuition (INT): 82 (21) ... 82 (21)
Wisdom (WIS): 100 (30) ... 100 (30)
Influence (INF): 82 (11) ... 82 (11)

Skills:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 40 8
Physical Fitness...................| 102 24
Arcane Symbols.....................| 170 70
Magic Item Use.....................| 170 70
Spell Aiming.......................| 240 140
Harness Power......................| 170 70
Elemental Mana Control.............| 170 70
Spirit Mana Control................| 170 70
Sorcerous Lore - Demonology........| 150 50
Sorcerous Lore - Necromancy........| 188 88
Perception.........................| 150 50
Climbing...........................| 120 30
Swimming...........................| 120 30

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 43

Spell Lists
Minor Spirit.......................| 40

Spell Lists
Sorcerer...........................| 70

[Necromancer]

Oooh excellent job on the necromancy. Get that up 2 more points quickly, and your MAL will be at +4. Also, to be honest, you could easily ditch 10 ranks of demonology, barely feel it, and increase your MAL to +6.

Or...buy Querthose's crystals and have a +10 MAL!

As far as FM in OTF....I can't say I've seen that one. And you'd pretty much have to be capped to sit in front of things long enough for that to work out (let alone the time you spend casting a spell that may or may not ever come to fruitation).

The one major, but underused, benefit of 710? Open Maelstrom. It'll clear the entire room out; anything on BCS is going to run away. THAT can come in handy when things have suddenly taken a turn for the worse.

[zhelas]

Here is a link where Jenovadeath has cast focused maelstrom on an Ithzir seer.

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthrea...12834&page=232

No matter what one choses it doesn't matter it is all personal preference With 2x in spell aim you can cast 111 and use wizard wands. I know Virilneus uses 111 quite a bit and Rheisia targets limbs off the Ithzir.

[AestheticDeath]

I believe it was Jenovadeath who posted a log of using several spells in OTF, focused maelstrom being one of them.

[Necromancer]

JD being...capped with tons of toys (and an excellent grasp on hunting actually).

Yes, 2x spell aim is debated among older sorcerers. I will point out, however, and V also is 1x in summoning lore to make his 111 as potent as it is. I'd say that's a lot of TPs to invest into one spell, but eh...I've got 1x perception, 1x survival, 132 ranks of necromancy, and a 50m silver wand for one.

So I'm in no position to judge.

[AestheticDeath]

what 'toy' could he have that helps with maelstrom?

how does perception and survival play into a spell? and which one? animate dead?

[Necromancer]

Into Animate Dead.

(foraging for moonflowers)

[GOD]

How does animate dead work? It wasnt around last time i was playing gs. . .

-J

[zhelas]

My post here will give you a list of links:

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=21786

[zhelas]

One can alway hire a ranger to find your moonflowers. In return for some spell ups. I was 1x in perception at this point in time I will probably leave it with 50 ranks.

True V has a ton of summoning lore and is one of the major bolting sorcerers out there. I know we will never bolt like wizards. Like I said 2x spell aim is a personal choice. If you don't use wizard wands, 111, Focused Implosion, Focused Maelstrom, and aimed limb disruption (a favorite of mine) then 1x will be fine.

[Necromancer]

Krakiipedia.org has my Animate Dead guide if you want some info on it. Also has all the scripts you need for component collection and crystal making

[Fallen]

There are now 2 hunting grounds where things ambush you, and perception plays a role in DS pushdown. Not to mention the bandits in the escort tasks. Certainly not a fluff skill anymore.

[zhelas]

Perception also helps you with your illusions I believe. Helps with 416 Piercing gaze.

[GOD]

1x AS (you can increase both of these later, and I highly suggest it, but 1x in each is fine for early trains)

Hope that helps

What do you mean by the abbreviation AS ? I know i should prolly know this but its been a while since i GS'd it up.

-John

[Artha]

Arcane Symbols.

[AestheticDeath]

its the old scroll reading renamed

[Necromancer]

It's not a fluff skill, but the ambush pushdown mitigation is curved around squares and semis who can 2-3x in it. 1x is helpful if you're like-level or higher level, but even then it's still not going to mitigate much. Ithzir are still knocking Querthose into offensive at 1x perception with only a few levels on him.

[GOD]

What skills add to your runestaff use effectiveness?

-John

(im just trien to work up a spread sheet real quick)

[AestheticDeath]

any magic skills - basically anything on the right side of the screen when you train in game

[zhelas]

What skills add to your runestaff use effectiveness?

-John

(im just trien to work up a spread sheet real quick)

Straight from www.nilandia.com

In order to benefit defensively using a rune staff, it is best to have at least eight magical ranks per level. A magical rank can be in any magical skill in the Character Manager, and each skill, regardless of cost, is weighted equally. Eight magical ranks per level is the approximate equivalent to 1x training in two-handed weapons and provides defenses as if the user had 10 additional parry ranks. Each additional magical rank per level will increase the caster’s effective weapon ranks by 5%.



Magical skills include:

Arcane Symbols

Elemental Lores

Elemental Mana Control

Harness Power

Magic Item Use

Mental Lores

Mental Mana Control

Sorcerous Lores

Spell Aiming

Spell Research

Spiritual Lores

Spiritual Mana Control

[Fallen]

It's not a fluff skill, but the ambush pushdown mitigation is curved around squares and semis who can 2-3x in it. 1x is helpful if you're like-level or higher level, but even then it's still not going to mitigate much. Ithzir are still knocking Querthose into offensive at 1x perception with only a few levels on him. >>

I agree. I am looking to be fully 2xed for PvC and CvC.

[Necromancer]

2x would be nice, but personally doesn't seem worth the TP expenditures. Bulk up on swimming for the Temple and survival for Alchemy I say!

Or...GET SOME LORES HIPPIE!


<g>

[zhelas]

2x would be nice, but personally doesn't seem worth the TP expenditures. Bulk up on swimming for the Temple and survival for Alchemy I say!
<g>

post cap maybe 2x in perception... Hell yes on the swiming oi need to get 20 more ranks..Survival? .. for collecting herbs?

[Liberi Fatali]

post cap maybe 2x in perception... Hell yes on the swiming oi need to get 20 more ranks..Survival? .. for collecting herbs?

I only have 10 ranks of perception on all my characters. In GS3 I was fully singled -- but after the GMs confirmed perception does diddly squat for any of our spells, I dropped it.

Here's a good log of how crucial chanting the correct spell in your cloak of shadows can be, out of the blue.

>e
[Ruined Temple, Third Floor]
Standing between a pair of columns is a marble statue of a graceful woman. Her billowing robes have been blackened by flame and a stump remains where her right arm broke off. Tiny shards of colored glass lay at her feet, blown in from further along the corridor judging by the irregular pattern they form. You also see a triton combatant, a triton radical, a triton combatant, an oak-shafted silvery blue trident and a crumbling arch.
Obvious paths: south, west
>
A triton radical steeples her clawed fingers together, murmuring a quick incantation.
>
.com

[Press the ESCape key to abort script.]
708 combatant right arm

[Script finished!]
You trace an intricate sign that contorts in the air while forcefully invoking Limb Disruption...
Your spell is ready.
>You gesture at a triton combatant.
CS: +509 - TD: +369 + CvA: +20 + d100: +71 == +231
Warding failed!
The triton combatant's right arm explodes!
The combatant's silvery blue trident falls to the ground.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>
A triton combatant rushes forward at you with her silvery blue trident and attempts a charge!
[Roll result: 139 (open d100: 35)]
A triton combatant lunges at you with a competent charge and you lose your footing.
... 15 points of damage!
Well aimed shot, punctures upper arm!
Roundtime: 18 sec.
>
A triton radical brings a hand forward, pointing at you!
A triton radical's eyes glow with silvery grey light, and then everything around you shimmers to match the argentine color.
CS: +409 - TD: +428 + CvA: +5 + d100: +10 - -5 == +1
Warded off!
With a faint flicker, the grey luminescence fades away.
>
A triton combatant rushes forward at you with her silvery blue trident and attempts a charge!
[Roll result: 137 (open d100: 23)]
A triton combatant lunges at you with a terrific charge and you flip through the air, landing on your head with a crash!
... 25 points of damage!
Damaging strike to chest, several ribs shattered!
Roundtime: 20 sec.
>
A triton radical steeples her clawed fingers together, murmuring a quick incantation.
>
A triton combatant thrusts with an oak-shafted silvery blue trident at you!
AS: +424 vs DS: +448 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +77 = +87
A clean miss.
>stand
...wait 25 seconds.
>'stop
You say, "Stop."
>
A triton radical brings a hand forward, pointing at you!
CS: +409 - TD: +398 + CvA: +5 + d100: +68 - -5 == +89
Warded off!
>
A triton radical thrusts with a corroded bronze scaling fork at you!
AS: +505 vs DS: +440 with AvD: +35 + d100 roll: +78 = +178
... and hits for 62 points of damage!
Strike pierces calf!
You are stunned for 3 rounds!
The guiding force leaves a triton radical.
You sense that the shadows swirling around you refuse to come to your aid.
>
In an awe inspiring display of combat mastery, a triton combatant engages you in a furious dance macabre, spiralling into a blur of strikes and ripostes!
A triton combatant thrusts with an oak-shafted silvery blue trident at you!
AS: +424 vs DS: +431 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +63 = +90
A clean miss.

A triton combatant thrusts with an oak-shafted silvery blue trident at you!
AS: +424 vs DS: +431 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +41 = +68
A clean miss.

A triton combatant thrusts with an oak-shafted silvery blue trident at you!
AS: +424 vs DS: +431 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +44 = +71
A clean miss.

A triton combatant thrusts with an oak-shafted silvery blue trident at you!
AS: +424 vs DS: +431 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +85 = +112
... and hits for 3 points of damage!
Strikes a fingernail.
Bet you'll lose it now.
A dark shadowy tendril rises up from your skin, writhes its way up an oak-shafted silvery blue trident towards a triton combatant and lashes out malevolently...
You stare at a triton combatant.
CS: +509 - TD: +372 + CvA: +20 + d100: +71 == +228
Warding failed!
The triton combatant looks at you in utter terror!
The triton combatant drops its silvery blue trident.
The triton combatant drops its brine-stained parma.
The triton combatant lets out a blood curdling scream!
The triton combatant collapses, gurgling once with a wrathful look on her face before expiring.
The warm glow fades from around a triton combatant.

>l
[Ruined Temple, Third Floor]
Standing between a pair of columns is a marble statue of a graceful woman. Her billowing robes have been blackened by flame and a stump remains where her right arm broke off. Tiny shards of colored glass lay at her feet, blown in from further along the corridor judging by the irregular pattern they form. You also see an elliptical brine-stained parma, an oak-shafted silvery blue trident, an oak-shafted silvery blue trident, a severed combatant arm, a triton combatant, a triton radical, a triton combatant that appears dead, an oak-shafted silvery blue trident and a crumbling arch.
Obvious paths: south, west
>
In an awe inspiring display of combat mastery, a triton radical engages you in a furious dance macabre, spiralling into a blur of strikes and ripostes!
A triton radical thrusts with a corroded bronze scaling fork at you!
AS: +430 vs DS: +433 with AvD: +35 + d100 roll: +71 = +103
... and hits for 2 points of damage!
Blow slides along your ribs.
Almost tickles.
A dark shadowy tendril rises up from your skin, writhes its way up a corroded bronze scaling fork towards a triton radical and lashes out malevolently...
You stare at a triton radical.
CS: +509 - TD: +403 + CvA: +25 + d100: +17 == +148
Warding failed!
The triton radical looks at you in utter terror!
The triton radical drops its bronze scaling fork.
The triton radical is frightened into utter immobility! It collapses to the ground.

>l
[Ruined Temple, Third Floor]
Standing between a pair of columns is a marble statue of a graceful woman. Her billowing robes have been blackened by flame and a stump remains where her right arm broke off. Tiny shards of colored glass lay at her feet, blown in from further along the corridor judging by the irregular pattern they form. You also see a corroded bronze scaling fork, an elliptical brine-stained parma, an oak-shafted silvery blue trident, an oak-shafted silvery blue trident, a severed combatant arm, a triton combatant, a triton radical that appears stunned, a triton combatant that appears dead, an oak-shafted silvery blue trident and a crumbling arch.
Obvious paths: south, west
>heal
You have some minor cuts and bruises on your right arm, a fractured and bleeding left leg, and deep lacerations across your chest.

Bleeding:
Area Health per Round
----------------------------------
Chest 4
Left leg 2

Maximum Health Points: 124
Remaining Health Points: 17
You are feeling faint.

Maximum Spirit Points: 10
Remaining Spirit Points: 10

Maximum Stamina Points: 60
Remaining Stamina Points: 60

>
Bits of dangling flesh fall from a severed combatant arm.
>stand
...wait 7 seconds.
>stand
...wait 3 seconds.
>stand
...wait 2 seconds.
>stand
...wait 1 seconds.
>stand
...wait 1 seconds.
>stand
You stand back up.
>l
[Ruined Temple, Third Floor]
Standing between a pair of columns is a marble statue of a graceful woman. Her billowing robes have been blackened by flame and a stump remains where her right arm broke off. Tiny shards of colored glass lay at her feet, blown in from further along the corridor judging by the irregular pattern they form. You also see a corroded bronze scaling fork, an elliptical brine-stained parma, an oak-shafted silvery blue trident, an oak-shafted silvery blue trident, a severed combatant arm, a triton combatant, a triton radical that appears stunned, a triton combatant that appears dead, an oak-shafted silvery blue trident and a crumbling arch.
Obvious paths: south, west
>
.com

[Press the ESCape key to abort script.]
708 combatant right arm

[Script finished!]
You trace an intricate sign that contorts in the air while forcefully invoking Limb Disruption...
Your spell is ready.
>You gesture at a triton combatant.
CS: +509 - TD: +369 + CvA: +20 + d100: +45 == +205
Warding failed!
The triton combatant is already missing that!
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>l
[Ruined Temple, Third Floor]
Standing between a pair of columns is a marble statue of a graceful woman. Her billowing robes have been blackened by flame and a stump remains where her right arm broke off. Tiny shards of colored glass lay at her feet, blown in from further along the corridor judging by the irregular pattern they form. You also see a corroded bronze scaling fork, an elliptical brine-stained parma, an oak-shafted silvery blue trident, an oak-shafted silvery blue trident, a severed combatant arm, a triton combatant, a triton radical that appears stunned, a triton combatant that appears dead, an oak-shafted silvery blue trident and a crumbling arch.
Obvious paths: south, west
>
A triton radical staggers slightly, swaying about in a daze.
>loot
You search the triton combatant.
You discard the combatant's useless equipment.
She carried a badly damaged gold trunk on her!
A triton combatant's slick skin begins to rapidly desiccate and dissolve away, leaving nothing behind.
>
.rad

[Press the ESCape key to abort script.]
708 radical right arm

[Script finished!]
You trace an intricate sign that contorts in the air while forcefully invoking Limb Disruption...
Your spell is ready.
>You gesture at a triton radical.
CS: +509 - TD: +401 + CvA: +25 + d100: +85 == +218
Warding failed!
The triton radical's right arm explodes!
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>heal
A severed radical arm splashes around in a puddle of its own blood. With sudden determination, it reaches towards a triton radical, but can't seem to grab her.
>
A severed combatant arm oozes blood onto the ground.
>
You have some minor cuts and bruises on your right arm, a fractured and bleeding left leg, and deep lacerations across your chest.

Bleeding:
Area Health per Round
----------------------------------
Chest 4
Left leg 2

Maximum Health Points: 124
Remaining Health Points: 17
You are feeling faint.

Maximum Spirit Points: 10
Remaining Spirit Points: 10

Maximum Stamina Points: 60
Remaining Stamina Points: 60

>sym restoration
A triton radical stands up with a grunt.
>
You feel the power of the symbol course through your body.
>sym restoration
You feel the power of the symbol course through your body.
>sym restoration
>l
You feel the power of the symbol course through your body.
>
[Ruined Temple, Third Floor]
Standing between a pair of columns is a marble statue of a graceful woman. Her billowing robes have been blackened by flame and a stump remains where her right arm broke off. Tiny shards of colored glass lay at her feet, blown in from further along the corridor judging by the irregular pattern they form. You also see a severed radical arm, a badly damaged gold trunk, a corroded bronze scaling fork, an elliptical brine-stained parma, an oak-shafted silvery blue trident, an oak-shafted silvery blue trident, a severed combatant arm, a triton combatant, a triton radical, an oak-shafted silvery blue trident and a crumbling arch.
Obvious paths: south, west
>
A triton radical steeples her clawed fingers together, murmuring a quick incantation.
>718 rad
You trace an intricate sign that contorts in the air while forcefully invoking Torment...
Your spell is ready.
>
You gesture at a triton radical.
The dull golden nimbus surrounding a triton radical suddenly begins to glow brightly and then disappears.
CS: +509 - TD: +401 + CvA: +25 + d100: +92 == +225
Warding failed!
You glare malevolently at a triton radical.
You feel a dark force suddenly summoned between you and a triton radical.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>
A severed radical arm splashes around in a puddle of its own blood. With sudden determination, it reaches towards a triton combatant, but can't seem to grab her.
>718 comb
You trace an intricate sign that contorts in the air while forcefully invoking Torment...
Your spell is ready.
>
You gesture at a triton combatant.
CS: +509 - TD: +369 + CvA: +20 + d100: +71 == +231
Warding failed!
You glare malevolently at a triton combatant.
You feel a dark force suddenly summoned between you and a triton combatant.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>
A triton radical snatches up an elliptical brine-stained parma!
The triton radical glances up and down the length of the parma, her dark eyes gleaming.
>410

You feel a dark force lash out at your opponent!
CS: +509 - TD: +361 + CvA: +20 + d100: +27 == +195
Warding failed!
A triton radical is engulfed in an eerie, dark haze!
It flinches in pain!
... 65 points of damage!
Shot shatters hip and severs right leg!
A triton radical falls to the ground grasping her mangled right leg!
>
The severed combatant arm finally stops twitching and decays away.
>
You trace a simple rune while intoning the mystical phrase for Elemental Wave...
Your spell is ready.
>
You gesture.
A wave of dark ethereal ripples moves outward from you.
A triton combatant is buffeted by the dark ethereal waves and is knocked to the ground.
A triton radical is buffeted by the dark ethereal waves.
The silvery blue trident crumbles and decays away.
The silvery blue trident crumbles and decays away.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>

You feel a dark force lash out at your opponent!
CS: +509 - TD: +323 + CvA: +20 + d100: +28 == +234
Warding failed!
A triton combatant is engulfed in an eerie, dark haze!
It flinches in pain!
... 70 points of damage!
The triton combatant tries desperately to keep footing but falls on rear instead.
>
A severed radical arm skitters across the ground, twitching like a snake slithering towards its prey, and leaving a trail of blood and flesh. Quickly, it reaches towards a triton radical, but can't seem to grab her.
>l
[Ruined Temple, Third Floor]
Standing between a pair of columns is a marble statue of a graceful woman. Her billowing robes have been blackened by flame and a stump remains where her right arm broke off. Tiny shards of colored glass lay at her feet, blown in from further along the corridor judging by the irregular pattern they form. You also see a severed radical arm, a badly damaged gold trunk, a corroded bronze scaling fork, an oak-shafted silvery blue trident, a triton combatant that is lying down, a triton radical that is lying down and a crumbling arch.
Obvious paths: south, west
>glance
You glance down to see nothing in your right hand and a black coffin-shaped tower shield covered in bloody handprints in your left hand.
>
A triton radical strides in, a wary look on her face.
>
.rad

[Press the ESCape key to abort script.]
708 radical right arm

[Script finished!]

You feel a dark force lash out at your opponent!
CS: +509 - TD: +361 + CvA: +20 + d100: +69 == +237
Warding failed!
A triton radical is engulfed in an eerie, dark haze!
It flinches in pain!
... 65 points of damage!
Perfect strike to abdomen. The triton radical howls in pain and drops quite dead!
The triton radical gurgles once and goes still, a wrathful look on her face.
A white glow rushes away from a triton radical.
The brilliant aura fades away from a triton radical.
The very powerful look leaves a triton radical.
The white light leaves a triton radical.
The warm glow fades from around a triton radical.
You feel the presence take the triton radical's life.
>A triton combatant struggles to rise but fails in the attempt.

[Sean of the Thread]

I use 717 a lot with Cloak of shadows.

[Fallen]

2x would be nice, but personally doesn't seem worth the TP expenditures. Bulk up on swimming for the Temple and survival for Alchemy I say!

Or...GET SOME LORES HIPPIE!


<g> >>

Bah. I have 50 ranks of swimming and am a little over 1x on lores.

[Asha]

I agree. I am looking to be fully 2xed for PvC and CvC.

You are wise, my friend.
Now.. archery.

[zhelas]

Just turned 70 and picked up that 90th rank of necro. Animated a muscular supplicant and went to Maaghara Tower. What a huge difference in hunting. It easily lasted two hunts.

You trace an intricate sign that contorts in the air while forcefully invoking Corrupt Essence...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture at a moulis.
CS: +361 - TD: +281 + CvA: +25 + d100: +98 == +203
Warding failed!
A moulis is suddenly surrounded by a blood red haze.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>
An animated muscular supplicant swings a troll sword at a moulis!
AS: +368 vs DS: +288 with AvD: +38 + d100 roll: +72 = +190
... and hits for 55 points of damage!
The moulis is stunned!

** As an animated muscular supplicant's sword lands home, it flares with a bolt of lightning! **
... 10 points of damage!
Mild electric jolt sends the moulis into spasms.
The scintillating silver light surrounding the sword fades some.
The scintillating silver light surrounding the sword fades some.
>
Cast Round Time in effect: Setting stance to guarded.
>
Could not find a valid target to loot.
>
You are not holding anything in your left hand.
>stance off
>incant 702
>stance def
>loot
>stow l
You are now in an offensive stance.
>
You trace an intricate sign that contorts in the air while forcefully invoking Mana Disruption...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture at a moulis.
CS: +361 - TD: +305 + CvA: +25 + d100: +74 == +155
Warding failed!
A very painful blow.
... 20 points of damage!
Blood boils in the moulis's chest.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>
Cast Round Time in effect: Setting stance to guarded.
>
Could not find a valid target to loot.
>
You are not holding anything in your left hand.
>
An animated muscular supplicant swings a troll sword at a moulis!
AS: +368 vs DS: +265 with AvD: +38 + d100 roll: +19 = +160
... and hits for 40 points of damage!
Blade slashes across the moulis's face!
Nice nose job.
The moulis flails wildly for a moment before collapsing, its appendages dropping lifelessly to the ground.
A moulis appears somehow different.
A moulis seems a bit less imposing.
The blood red haze dissipates from around a moulis.
The scintillating silver light surrounding the sword fades some.
The scintillating silver light surrounding the sword fades some.

[Necromancer]

Yup, and they'll get you out of some sticky situations too. Having an animate around in OTF can easily mean the difference between a quick death and an escape.

[StrayRogue]

Yep. Its also one extra target that might get hit instead of you.

[Fallen]

You are wise, my friend.
Now.. archery. >>

Archery makes one a soft target.

[Asha]

Against ranged attacks. Just use 140 or hide in PvP situations.

[Necromancer]

Yeah, 140 and then any disabling spell. People with ranged attacks don't *generally* have berserk to climb out of immobilization, so they're easier to keep down. Also, the nice thing is you can remove either limb, and they're screwed.

[Asha]

All very true.
And if it's about first to hit, so you have no time to immobilize, then it's back to who hits their macro first.
I use mana on some foes and nothing but ranged on others.

[Fallen]

Against ranged attacks. Just use 140 or hide in PvP situations. >>

Everyone always assumes that all PvP is two players of roughly equal levels playing professions of roughly even strength. You CAN be killed by players half your level if they get the drop on you not being fully prepared. An archer is a very easy build to kill by a lower level character. A sword and board or brawler not as much.

[Asha]

Only a ranged attack or bolt from someone who was utterly prepared for it while the sorcerer was on his cig break in the park or dais.
If I was expecting to be attacked I'd just stay in defensive and have my bow out. Not much could get past that.
If I was attacked out of the blue for no reason at all, then yeah they'd have a really great chance to do some damage.

[Fallen]

Ambush pushes you into Offensive. An archer's offensive DS blows. Just like a Runestaffer, they are easy to bolt and they have shit DS in offensive. I dont like the build. Further, you only need a 101 endroll to kill someone with Feras. Without that shield to provide that 10x DS and chance to block, it is that much easier to get it.

If I was attacked out of the blue for no reason at all, then yeah they'd have a really great chance to do some damage. >>

Bingo. Never put that bow away.

[Asha]

Archers DS in offensive does not blow compared to runestave or sword and board.
And since an archer should at least 2x perception, legend has it that will help against ambush. And to be honest, I see hardly any difference in DS from guarded to being ambushed.
And I'd put my bow away every time, I hid when I'd rest.
If I was expecting to be hit while RPing I'd keep it out of course.

[Fallen]

You're telling me an Archer's DS in offensive compares to a 10x shield (Not hard to get) and a 4x-5x weapon?

[Asha]

Heh, now you're being pedantic.
7x bow with 10x doubles ftw.

[Fallen]

We should get in game and do some tests. I would be interested to see which build can put up the better numbers. Hell, I would even put silvers on it.

[Asha]

That's what I thought this morning.
We should.
I think I'll have some time in game this weekend mate. Saturday most likely.