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I had XP Service Pack 2 on my laptop for 1 week. I had problems staying connected to my wireless network and my system was slow as molasses. My router has the latest firmware. Is there anyway to use SP2 without the wireless issues and the slowness?
Is there any great fear of vulnerability if I don't use SP2?
CrystalTears
11-02-2006, 03:54 PM
What are you going to use in lieu of SP2?
I removed SP2, currently using SP1 with updates. What can I use?
CrystalTears
11-02-2006, 04:04 PM
You'll eventually have to get SP2 though, as Windows is planning on (or already did) stop supporting anything under SP2.
I've heard of antivirus software getting in the way of wireless working properly.
Skirmisher
11-02-2006, 04:11 PM
You may get more responses if you also say what hardware you are using.
Router...cards....etc...
You'll eventually have to get SP2 though, as Windows is planning on (or already did) stop supporting anything under SP2.
I've heard of antivirus software getting in the way of wireless working properly.
Yes I "upgraded" to SP2 because MS stopped supporting SP1, however it caused me such problems I removed it.
How difficult is Linux to use? Is it compatible with MS programs like Word, Excel, Powerpoint, Access?
CrystalTears
11-02-2006, 04:16 PM
Linux has their own software capabilities. You won't find Word or Excel, but I'm sure they have their equivalents. Someone who is more Linux educated will have to jump into that. I won't convert completely to it as I like playing games. :D
Sean of the Thread
11-02-2006, 04:21 PM
Canada doesn't have an adequate information technology infrastructure and thus is the problem.
Drew2
11-02-2006, 04:21 PM
Throw another hampster in your computer to help turn the wheels like Skirm does. That should give you a little boost.
Seriously though, what kind of computer are you running? Not that it should make a significant difference upgradding from SP1 to SP2. SP2 did come with some significant changes to the way Windows uses Wireless, along with Windows Firewall, etc., so it's not out of the realm of possibility that you just need to adjust some of these features to clear up whatever is going on.
Diagnosing problems like this is hard to do unless the computer is in front of you. Sry!
CrystalTears
11-02-2006, 04:22 PM
Spoken like a true computer geek, Drew. :D
Wireless Router is a Netgear MR814. The wireless card is built into the laptop so I have no idea what it is. Laptop is a Compaq Presario 2570ca, Intel p4 2.4 ghz, 512 ram.
Sean of the Thread
11-02-2006, 04:32 PM
You obviously need more megahurtzes's.
You obviously need more megahurtzes's.
What I need is to find the source of the problem which isn't the intel chip's power or lack thereof.
Sean of the Thread
11-02-2006, 04:40 PM
In all seriousness "removing SP2" is possibly the problem.
Skirmisher
11-02-2006, 05:03 PM
You may just need a new router but maybe one of these forums will help as it seems you are not alone.
http://www.amazon.com/Netgear-WG311-Mbps-Wireless-Adapter/dp/B00009YW8B
Windows XP SP2 issues are resolved..., September 9, 2004
Reviewer: 30-year Technology Consumer "8-tracks to 802.11" (Central Maryland, USA) - See all my reviews
Update: mid November 2004:
Editing the review does not allow reviewer to change the rating. To Netgear's credit, they have issued updates for this card, which now plays just fine with Windows XP SP2. I was able to confirm this during a build of a new machine this weekend.
My rant in September was valid then based on the state of their suppport for XP SP2. They have taken care of this, and if I could, I would elevate this product to 4.5 or 5 stars....
________________________________
Original early September review:
Once installed and working: 4 stars. The single star is for the overall experience in Windows XP Home Service Pack 2 environment. This eventually required a rollback from SP2 *and* an operating system reinstall. This might not be worth it for most people seeking just a little faster data througput...
If your are considering purchasing this --or **any other wireless network adapter**-- check carefully for compatability with Windows XP Home SP2. After over 4 hours of my own troubleshooting, and another hour on hold to speak with Netgear tech support, I learned that the only issue was that this device was having major compatability issues with SP2 (which we deployed last month on 4 computers in our network with no negative effects..until now). At this point you pretty much have the choice of returning to your previous (or non-existent) networking environment or uninstalling SP2. WARNING: Do not choose the SP2 uninstall. I went from a midly annoying networking hardware issue to a full blown operating system meltdown. In the case of Netgear, the SP2 compatability issue was not discussed on their web site (and certainly not in the included literature): I had to get this important information from the support rep. only after registering the product for the 90 day support period. If you are putting any wireless adapter into an XP SP2 system, it is time well spent to check with their tech support BEFORE install. The hold time may be time consuming, but it will be less so than Windows reinstallation (or a hard drive reformat!). Naturally, since my Netgear issue has morphed into a Windows issue, there's no more help coming from Netgear on this. I've had generally good experiences with Netgear products (a new router and laptop PCMCIA card installed flawlessly and were up and running in minutes), but this combined MS-Netgear SNAFU is a disaster of major proportions. Your experience may vary...but it would take very little for it to be better than mine! Good luck, and caveat emptor!
Update: Rollback from XP SP2 plus a reinstall of the operating system plus another 45 minutes on the phone with tech suppprt and we did succeed in getting it running. Enjoying the higher throughput, but I'm not sure it was worth the effort.
http://www.fungames.com.au/product-detail/6/ce/B00009YW8B
Summary: stay away from netgear
Date: 2006-08-26 - 1
Comment: bad xp SP2 compatibility. not sure if it is my AMD chip or SP2 because even the XP update from netgear woulnt help. BSOD's daily needed a restore to get them to stop. buy a linksys, havent had a single problem with them. linksys wmp54g is worth the extra money.
http://www.wifi-forum.com/wf/showthread.php?t=6768
I have a system with a NETGEAR MA111 USB WLAN adapter and a NETGEAR MR814v2
router.
the operating system was XP Pro SP1 with several updates.
everything was working fine, till Windows Update automatically downloaded
and installed
XP-SP2 on the machine, since then the Wireless network isnt working anymore,
which means,
that internet connection doesnt work anymore over the WLAN connection,
I cant even ping the router at his address (192.168.0.1).
I can see in the NETGEAR utility, that the MA111 is connected to the MR814,
but TCPIP doesnt work
between them. I disabled the new XP-firewall but it was the same, I also
tried to repair the WLAN-connection,
but it didnt work either.
radamanthys
11-03-2006, 03:53 AM
I bet something is stuck in one of the tubes. Tube-clog, we call it, here in the industry.
TheEschaton
11-03-2006, 08:12 AM
Well, then, just send some poker chips down the tubes to clear them up!
-TheE-
I have check with Netgear's site and my product isn't listed as one that conflicts with SP2. Most of the products that conflict aren't routers but wireless cards. They claim a certain Windows hotfix causes the problem, but I don't have that hotfix installed.
I am still having problems even after uninstalling SP2. I keep disconnecting from wireless connection and the speed from wireless connection drops from 11bps tp 1 bps.
Did I mention I hate Microsoft?
Would doing a reformat fix things?
Sean of the Thread
11-03-2006, 01:15 PM
UNINSTALLING SP2 CAUSES PROBLEMS.
Do a clean wipe and start fresh.
Drew2
11-03-2006, 01:20 PM
UNINSTALLING SP2 CAUSES PROBLEMS.
Do a clean wipe and start fresh.
That's the easiest solution, if you can do that.
Upgrade to SP2 IMMEDIATLY upon re-installation. You should have 0 problems if you install all updates and service packs before you install anything else.
UNINSTALLING SP2 CAUSES PROBLEMS.
Do a clean wipe and start fresh.
Thank you, most relevant, helpful thing you have ever said!
CrystalTears
11-03-2006, 01:29 PM
He told you yesterday removing SP2 in the first place screwed it up.
He told you yesterday removing SP2 in the first place screwed it up.
I meant his suggestion to reformat.
It was problematic with SP2 and it was problematic after I removed SP2. I had no problems before installing SP2. Can I reformat and not use SP2? I know Microsucks isn't supporting SP1 anymore but do I really need all Microsucks updates on XP?
Celephais
11-03-2006, 02:46 PM
do I really need all Microsucks updates on XP?
Not all of them... but you're definatly going to want some of them. That is if you use the internet (which um.. yeah the wireless router was a tipoff). Even using FF you would still be vulnerable.
Odds are if you format you'll be able to upgrade to SP2 and be okay.
Not all of them... but you're definatly going to want some of them. That is if you use the internet (which um.. yeah the wireless router was a tipoff). Even using FF you would still be vulnerable.
Odds are if you format you'll be able to upgrade to SP2 and be okay.
Why would reformating and installing SP2 work? considering installing SP2 caused problems?
Sean of the Thread
11-03-2006, 03:24 PM
A fresh install with all updates and SP2 then see if you're having the same prob. If so roll it from fresh again and skip SP2 and see where you're at then.
Celephais
11-03-2006, 03:36 PM
Why would reformating and installing SP2 work? considering installing SP2 caused problems?
Odds are SP2 isn't the real root of the problem, it just exposed it. A fresh SP2 machine shouldn't have any problems using the hardware... that and something you already stated:
"I have check with Netgear's site and my product isn't listed as one that conflicts with SP2."
Drew2
11-03-2006, 05:27 PM
I'm not being cocky, but I really do know what I'm talking about.
Just format and upgrade to SP2.
Sean of the Thread
11-03-2006, 05:33 PM
/agreed
I've ghosted so many fucking machines it's not funny.
Well I have done the reformat and the windows updates, and reinstalled SP2. So far so good.
Skirmisher
11-06-2006, 02:37 PM
Congrats
Well I am not disconnecting but the speed on my wireless connection keeps dropping from 11mbps to 2 or 5mbps. Before SP2 my speed was consistent at 11mbps.
Sean of the Thread
11-06-2006, 06:01 PM
Well I am not disconnecting but the speed on my wireless connection keeps dropping from 11mbps to 2 or 5mbps. Before SP2 my speed was consistent at 11mbps.
Well I'm certainly glad my advice fixed your major problem. Refer to my Canadian information technology infrastructure post for the problems with your connection speed. I can't help you there unless you willing to convert to red blooded American.
Well I'm certainly glad my advice fixed your major problem. Refer to my Canadian information technology infrastructure post for the problems with your connection speed. I can't help you there unless you willing to convert to red blooded American.
I am going to see Indian IT tech on the weekend but thanks for the offer.
Damn wireless connection sucks again. Disconnects, doesn't recognise connection and wireless speed drops to 1mbps.
F*ck, will getting a new network card help?
Sean of the Thread
11-10-2006, 11:26 AM
That would be a logical step if it's not your ISP.
CrystalTears
11-10-2006, 12:01 PM
Do you have any Norton suites? Firewalls, such as the XP one? That can tend to interfere with wireless.
Do you have any Norton suites? Firewalls, such as the XP one? That can tend to interfere with wireless.
No Norton. I have disabled XP's firewall. I am using Panda Internet Security that has a firewall, however I have given the wireless permission to connect.
CrystalTears
11-10-2006, 12:43 PM
Yeah I would try disabling any firewalls and see if that helps any.
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