1000 uses for duct tape... +1

[Gan]

JACKSONVILLE, Florida (AP) -- A woman accused of duct-taping her two children together and leaving them home alone has been charged with child abuse, the sheriff's office said.


Agla Nadia Vincent, 25, was arrested Monday following a seven-month investigation into whether she left her two boys, then aged 2 and 3, taped to each other while she went to work, said Lt. Annie Smith of the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office.


Vincent was a four-year naval officer at the time and worked at the Jacksonville Naval Air Station. She completed her service and was discharged in August, naval base spokesman Rick Cruz said.


In March, a witness heard the children crying and called the police. When military police arrived, they found the children taped in a bedroom with feces and cereal scattered on play mats on the floor, investigators said.
The children were taken into custody by the Florida Department of Children & Families and Vincent was free pending an investigation.


An officer who arrested Vincent said she denied leaving the children home alone all day.


Vincent was being held Tuesday on a $5,000 bond, the Florida Times-Union reported for Wednesday's editions. It was not clear whether she had an attorney.

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[Goretawn]

This is just sad.

Now I wait for someone to bash the military for it. I know it is coming, since a civilian would never do such a thing.

[Celephais]

Nah, this won't be military bashing, this is a clear cut case of the florida tag

[Skirmisher]

This is just sad.

Now I wait for someone to bash the military for it. I know it is coming, since a civilian would never do such a thing.

They teach that during basic I hear.

[Sean of the Thread]

Jolena?

[Shermatz]

Couldn't be. She duct-taped them together while receiving alterations at Ebon Gate.

[Goretawn]

They teach that during basic I hear.

:rofl:
Yes, along with wife beating, because civilians don't do that either.

[DeV]

Shitty parenting knows no bounds.

[Gan]

I reiterate my stance that all prospective parents should be required to pass a test before having kids.

[TheEschaton]

I think I agree with Gan. I think that makes twice.

-TheE-

[Sean of the Thread]

What a waste of duct tape. What do you think trunks are for?

[RichardCranium]

Speakers and people who owe me money.

[Ignot]

I use to staff nurses at various medical facilities or to people who need care and I had one male nurse actually duct tape a child to a pole because he could not keep him still.

That was a fun phone call to get at 2:00 in the morning.....

[Gan]

I use to staff nurses at various medical facilities or to people who need care and I had one male nurse actually duct tape a child to a pole because he could not keep him still.

That was a fun phone call to get at 2:00 in the morning.....

:lol: I think I'd classify that as a 1 point hard restraint. I think our state BNE would frown on that practice though.

[Shari]

License to breed, people.

[Goretawn]

License to breed, people.

:wtf: Right, and then we can become the United States of China.

[Tea & Strumpets]

In March, a witness heard the children crying and called the police.

She must be kicking herself for not duct taping their mouths.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Shari
License to breed, people.

Gattaca here we come!

[Latrinsorm]

As the thread drifts away from the topical axis, I wonder why people (and Goretawn in specific) believe we should have a right to breed.

[Atlanteax]

Well, I'd suggest that the "Right to Breed" would put Darwinism back into Society.

Currently you can have Moron + Moron = Family of 6 Morons, supported by Welfare.

And then Intelligent + Intelligent = Family of 4 (or 3), paying the Welfare bill for the Moron family.

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Over time, the #s of Morons vastly outnumber the #s of Intelligents.

Which could be why many have stated great distate for American Society's spiral into social decay.

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Perhaps "Right to Breed" can cap the Moron family at 1 child, and reverse the trend.

In China, the "cap" is effectively one, but they allow wealthier parents more than one.

I can see myself supporting the Chinese system.

[DeV]

The Chinese system is quite flawed, actually. The gender imbalance is a very serious problem in some parts.

[CrystalTears]

She must be kicking herself for not duct taping their mouths.
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[Atlanteax]

The Chinese system is quite flawed, actually. The gender imbalance is a very serious problem in some parts.

Agreed, as far as the Principle of Humanity goes.

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However, if take out all emotional consideration, and look at the very long-term...

The Chinese government is *intentionally* encouraging the gender imbalance as a form of population control.

I'd say it's for the following reasons:

Male workers are more suitable for hostile working conditions (rural farming, industrial factories, mining, dam-building, etc) ... and since that is where most of the "jobs" are... it's conductive to the typical Chinese family targeting their sole child to be a male.

And since Male + Male does not generate children, the Chinese population will decline... reducing stress on its economy, as well as the dangers of rural unrest.

There is also the perception that this will help reduce the targetted class (Peasants). They're the greatest source of rural unrest (due to Poverty) where there is also little opportunity for them (poor education and poor health). So this would help keep in check the population of the poor and uneducated (where they cannot contribute to the Chinese economy other than as "grunts"), and force it to decrease over time.

So the middle class and rich class will get the exemption of more children (male + female ideally) and thus ensure that family wealth continues to get passed on, with exposure to better education and healthcare.

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All in all, while for most considerations, the Chinese system is "inhumane", it does seem to be a practical solution to a very serious problem.

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Now if the other SE Asian country does the same... perhaps the World overall would not have to worry so much about human overpopulation.

[zhelas]

The Chinese system is quite flawed, actually. The gender imbalance is a very serious problem in some parts.

Don't some practice Female infanticide?

[radamanthys]

It's illegal to know the sex of your child in China, due to huge female-child abortion rates.

[DeV]

Agreed, as far as the Principle of Humanity goes.

.

However, if take out all emotional consideration, and look at the very long-term...

The Chinese government is *intentionally* encouraging the gender imbalance as a form of population control.

I'd say it's for the following reasons:

Male workers are more suitable for hostile working conditions (rural farming, industrial factories, mining, dam-building, etc) ... and since that is where most of the "jobs" are... it's conductive to the typical Chinese family targeting their sole child to be a male.

And since Male + Male does not generate children, the Chinese population will decline... reducing stress on its economy, as well as the dangers of rural unrest.

There is also the perception that this will help reduce the targetted class (Peasants). They're the greatest source of rural unrest (due to Poverty) where there is also little opportunity for them (poor education and poor health). So this would help keep in check the population of the poor and uneducated (where they cannot contribute to the Chinese economy other than as "grunts"), and force it to decrease over time.

So the middle class and rich class will get the exemption of more children (male + female ideally) and thus ensure that family wealth continues to get passed on, with exposure to better education and healthcare.

.

All in all, while for most considerations, the Chinese system is "inhumane", it does seem to be a practical solution to a very serious problem.

.

Now if the other SE Asian country does the same... perhaps the World overall would not have to worry so much about human overpopulation.There are some definite advantages to the policy, and it was necessary for China to enact some sort of restriction or else there'd be a couple hundred million more people added to their current population.

However, it's something like 120 males to every 100 females, and that disparity has increased since 2000. A very large percentage of China's population is rural, so the policy has the largest affect on its poorest citizens. That's good for the short term, but there are present and future concerns plaguing those areas including, but not limited to access to clean water, other resources necessary for survival, having more than the allotted children, abortion, abandonment, and so on. The "grunts" you speak of make up the majority of the population. China still has much to do to improve their image in relation to how they treat their poor and toward solving the increasing gender imbalance.

>>All in all, while for most considerations, the Chinese system is "inhumane", it does seem to be a practical solution to a very serious problem.<<

Pros and cons abound, but I agree that it was/is a necessary evil. I can see both sides of the issue.

I just don't believe a similiar system is necessary in the US. Requiring a licence to have children is a different topic altogether, though I wanted to address that particular comment because that system was set up for wholly different reasons.

[Latrinsorm]

I also don't think the Chinese system is applicable to the topic at hand. I can't think of a worse possible solution than the idea that we're going to "breed away" the "morons". It's just astoundingly wrong from any number of angles; chiefmost among them the idea that such a tactic is ethically acceptable and the idea that being poor is equivalent with being genetically stupid.

I really can't get over how terrible a plan that is.

Anyway, the question was asked not in terms of economic classes but in terms of all of us; humanity. Why do people think humans have a right to breed?