Annoying

[unconcerned1]

>psinet skills kritz
You request a list of the skills of Kritz from the PsiNet.

Kritz's Last Recorded Skills (Level 74):

Skill Name | Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 130 35
Combat Maneuvers...................| 252 152
Edged Weapons......................| 252 152
Ranged Weapons.....................| 247 147
Ambush.............................| 200 100
Physical Fitness...................| 205 105
Dodging............................| 328 228
Arcane Symbols.....................| 172 72
Magic Item Use.....................| 172 72
Harness Power......................| 174 74
Survival...........................| 249 149
Disarming Traps....................| 325 225
Picking Locks......................| 325 225
Stalking and Hiding................| 328 228
Perception.........................| 328 228
Climbing...........................| 120 30
Swimming...........................| 25 5
First Aid..........................| 249 149
Pickpocketing......................| 247 147
Shield Use.........................| 200 100
Two Weapon Combat..................| 245 145
Blunt Weapons......................| 250 150
Two-Handed Weapons.................| 251 151
Thrown Weapons.....................| 245 145
Polearm Weapons....................| 248 148
Brawling...........................| 250 150
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 175 75
Spell Aiming.......................| 173 73
Elemental Mana Control.............| 96 22
Spirit Mana Control................| 102 24
Elemental Lore - Fire..............| 30 6
Spiritual Lore - Summoning.........| 173 73
Trading............................| 250 150

Spell Circles:
Minor Elemental....................| 75
Minor Spirit.......................| 75

This kinda shit bug anyone else?

[Latrinsorm]

She did get locked out, you know.

[unconcerned1]

Skilled her ten minutes ago.

I'm aware you have to type SKILLS FULL to refresh the skills for PSinet.

[Fallen]

Simu should let you pay 500 bucks to weak your skills to however you want. The next day...Cancel Gemstone. They would make out like bandits.

[Beguiler]

Okay, I'm a latecomer. How did she manage to get that many TPs by 74? No way possible, I ran this thru Tsoran's spreadsheet, and it had a seizure!

[unconcerned1]

Okay, I'm a latecomer. How did she manage to get that many TPs by 74? No way possible, I ran this thru Tsoran's spreadsheet, and it had a seizure!

Bug abuse.

[Sean of the Thread]

It's abuse of migration.

[Stanley Burrell]

She did get locked out, you know.

As did a few others.

She hasn't updated it since her last psinet skills share.

[Bobmuhthol]

Alternatively, I don't think you understand that PsiNet's SKILLS command doesn't do anything but display a character's skills.dat file, which is 100% editable.

[Stanley Burrell]

Alternatively, I don't think you understand that PsiNet's SKILLS command doesn't do anything but display a character's skills.dat file, which is 100% editable.

She definitely did not craft those numbers, heh.

[Sean of the Thread]

Abuse of migration like that has been going on for at least 3 years.

[Caede]

Still possible if you're careful. Something about the bug being too difficult to correct. And yeah, those were Kritz's real numbers. She got locked out because she was stupid about showing off all her abilities one night.

There are people who have abused this more subtlety to get a free fixskills, too. Bastards.

[TheEschaton]

My rogue used that bug. After awhile (and he didn't advertise it either) he found himself locked in a weird room which wouldn't let him out til his training "conformed to" something something. And yeah, they gave me a free fixskill to do it.

-TheE-

[Asha]

It's so easy to bug your skills. I even thought about it towards the end, in a 'go out in style' esque way.
It's very unlikely the GMs will ever pull you for it too since it does actually take an investigation to bust you, if you'd don't go making it obvious.
If you bug your character then share skills on Psi-net.. you're a fucking idiot.

Although a friend I know complained to the PTB about Kritz for about 9 months till they listened and did anything about it.
Even then, they gave her 5 months.
Should have locked the bitch out.

[Asha]

Should have locked the bitch out.

Forever, I mean.

[Artha]

There's a check now to see how many TPs you're using vs. how many you should be using. So that bug is not currently abused, even if you don't go advertising it.

[Stanley Burrell]

Yeah.

I am pretty sure that this exploit was fixed well over a year ago.

I can only think of a few ways that could possibly skirt upon stacking up fake TPs, but I think things would get flagged and you would get sent to the conversion chamber (I remember how annoying it was getting pulled three times when I had migrated more than ten-ish TPs.)

[StrayRogue]

It isn't fixed. As mentioned it's "unfixable" for some reason. However it is more easily able to be detected.

[Merzbow]

How the fuck can it be unfixable? That is just ludicrous.

[Bobmuhthol]

Because there's a migration system, that's how. Everything would have to be totally revamped in order to get rid of the bug. Most cases of it happening, though, are not abuse. I'm 1-1 on abuse/not abuse cases, but I reported myself because I wasn't getting detected when I was testing it on Bobmuhthol. Another character I had got pulled into the room at login (while Bobmuhthol remained untouched for actual abuse), but that was because I was already converting skills normally for a while. It was a nice source of a fixskills at the time.

[Olanan]

Should have locked the bitch out

You have no idea how much I agree with this. She's a tool.

[Gan]

^^^

I concur with the tool statement. Especially when she was in the landing. She behaved herself in Illistim, for the most part, because she could get her ass handed to her pretty easily, even with all the overbalanced skills.

Do us all a favor and [DELETE]. Or fixskills her as a utility picker and leave her closeted at a table.

[Latrinsorm]

I like Kritz on PsiNet.

[Methais]

It's abuse of migration.

I don't care about Kritz, but maybe instead of being such stingy pseudo slave drivers, Simu should spend some money and hire real coders and a real QC/testing team instead of banning people for taking advantage of their stupidity.

I know, God forbid it might cut into their Hero's Journey funds, which is gonna fail anyway, but still.

[Kritz1]

Sorry about the couple month old bump, but I had to say...I didn't even do anything other then just sit there. I thought for sure I would get caught when I was spelling up in the dais a couple times, but I was just sitting there and got caught, so it was obvious. I still trying to decide if I wanna come back or not. Anyways, I glad to see a thread about me, yay!

[Olanan]

Don't.

[Caramia]

Just sat there did you? You mean, you didn't abuse your ramped up skills to bully people in a variety of towns, except the one where you would have been bullied.

[Kritz1]

Well, I guess I bullied people even before I had the skills bug running, but I have a lot of friends in the nations..unlike the landing. But I was refering to when I got caught, all I was doing was sitting at the dais.

[Rhewtani]

Ok, since it can't be done anymore ... how was it done?

[Bobmuhthol]

It can't be done anymore? I thought it was unfixable without changing the entire system?

And it requires dropping ranks in skills and training in other skills using the recovered TPs. You'd end up getting some TPs immediately without having to wait for migration and then you could continue repeating the process until all your skills were "maxed," but they're actually in a state of downward migration. And, since migration is a very slow process, the skills would stay very high for a very long time.