Spellup Service on IFW

[Sinsafaray]

I am thinking of offering a spellup service to Premium chars, due to my Wizard being able to access a broader range of people on the Isle.

He will be there almost all day, and will be available anytime he is there for a complete wizard spellup with mearly a small gesture needed.

He can normally complete one spellup every 4 minutes, so waiting is not really an issue.

This service will give you spellups from him whenever you wish, for this, he would require 500k silver in payment for one month. Each Month after that you stay would be 500k as well. Payment up front of 3 months or more would recieve a discount of 15%.

I currently have ten spots open. Please feel free to PM me if intrested or needing more info.

Also, a trial run can be offered. I am willing to accept 50k for a one week useage from a client one time. After the week, they can choose to continue at the normal rate, or dicontinue the service.

Sins

[Stretch]

AFK scripting for personal gain is bad, mmkay.

[Skirmisher]

500k?
Hahahahahahahahahaha

[Asha]

If he/she can guarantee a spellup anytime, constantly for one month it wouldn't be so bad for like 300k.
500k is steep.

[Xaerve]

Bad idea, you'll get busted.

[TheEschaton]

Spelling up is not against policy, even if it's AFK scripted, I believe. Isn't AFK scripting only against policy if it's for some sort of gain? As long as the 500k is given over in person, while at the keyboard, they can't prove anything. He's just giving spellups for his love of spelling people up. ;)

Plus, I imagine he'll have a list of "approved" people, so even if the GMs or some snert tries to consistently trigger his script, they won't be able to (unless one of the GMs figures out one of the paid subscribers, and echoes that string).

-TheE-

[FinisWolf]

I used to run a scipt like this with 25 characters able to use it, I think I had half of Icemule coming to my house to get spellups. I also had a list of 25 for locksmithing done the same way. The problem I had was people came to expect it and didn't appreciate it. So, that ended that, I closed up shop.

Of course I didn't charge anything either.As far as this individual goes, it's hard to guarantee 24/7 service for 30 days.That and, *if* I were to subscribe the price would be steep, and I would want to know if the person is established for peace of mind.

If I didn't love my mage so much I would consider doing something like this for about two seconds, until I recalled how folks were in Mule that were getting it for free.

One last thing, do it to/for friends, someone here (and there are some that really really hate afk scripters) could report this to the GS staff leaving you banned for 30 days opposed to getting paid for 30 days. Just a suggestion.

Finis

[Insodus]

I've spoken to both a GH and a GM about this. Both agreed this is against policy.

I wanted to leave my wizard at a table and any of my friends could come and it would auto spell them. They both said the rule is that any script that gives you or anyone else any kind of benefit while you aren't watching the screen, is illegal.

I can find the logs if you want.

[Asha]

Don't need logs, it's completely obvious and pretty good common sense for it to be 'illegal'.
You want to benefit with 500k per player, per month.. sit at your computer and earn it.

[Gan]

I wouldnt advise doing this line of service afk. Based on the information offered above, it would appear that not only you will benefit (service fees) but the people receiving the spellups benefit.

I concur with the others, dont do it.

[The Ponzzz]

Any gain, whether it's exp, silvers, or skill, is against policy. This is silver gain. It's not taking silvers from the system, but a character. So you sit and think, "Hey this isn't against policy!" WRONG! It is. But even if yer not AFK, the price is retarded. Maybe back when 919, 905 and 507 were not self cast, I would honestly think about it. I think 300k is a good starting price WITH the spells I listed.

In plat, I make a mil in a week. I'm level 30.

In prime at 50, I make just under a mil a week(though I don't play much at all anymore).

In plat I open my own boxes and have 10 ranks of trading.

In prime I do not open my own boxes and 1x trading.

What I'm saying is. You can make 500k a month easier.

[AestheticDeath]

Well if you were to do it this way at the price stated it wouldnt be 500k a month.. itd be 5mil a month, if they only did the 10 available spaces..

And although I agree it would be against policy to do it afk, if you are anywhere near your computer, you can still do this.

Say perhaps you work at home, or have a computer at work - that wont bother other employees. Just set up the same script to make a sound when a customer needs the service, you come to the computer and put in the command for the spell up. Your only afk when nothing is happening - and your there when the actual gain of spells is taking place, as well as the initial upfront payment.

edit : Oh yeah - about the price. I see people paying 10k or more everyday in the landing just for a wizard spellup. 10k a day at 30 days is 300k.. good starting point. But also, you have to figure that for someone wanting this service they most likely arent getting 1 spell up a day or less... they are getting or wanting several. Which means if you get 2 spell ups per day, youve saved money in the long run. Assuming you could even find someone giving spellups on a more normal day with normal methods.

[Insodus]

Any gain, whether it's exp, silvers, or skill, is against policy. This is silver gain. It's not taking silvers from the system, but a character.

Nothing to do with the price. The spells themselves are the advantage. When I wanted to do it just for my own other accounts, they said its still against policy.

[Landrion]

Nothing to do with the price. The spells themselves are the advantage. When I wanted to do it just for my own other accounts, they said its still against policy.

Wait a minute, its against policy to run another window and have a script sitting in waitfor mode to spell you up? Youre there, at keys, maybe Im misunderstanding.

[Gan]

Nothing to do with the price. The spells themselves are the advantage. When I wanted to do it just for my own other accounts, they said its still against policy.

I know someone who had an afk table camped spellup script activated only by those who knew the activator and were listed in the script... and he got jacked for having it up and running. He received no benefit from it; however, others did by receipt of the spells.

He was told to cease and desist immediately.

[StrayRogue]

I know someone who had an afk table camped spellup script activated only by those who knew the activator and were listed in the script... and he got jacked for having it up and running. He received no benefit from it; however, others did by receipt of the spells.

He was told to cease and desist immediately.

Yep. I used this exact service. And it did indeed get busted.

[Gan]

Yep. I used this exact service. And it did indeed get busted.


It was indeed awsome, I took advantage of it for as long as I could. Its handy to have extra spells available when you do not have the luxury of having a wizard on a second account.

[AnticorRifling]

I have scripts I wrote to do that with healing, wizard spells, etc for my characters when I played. You just can't be stupid with it and you have to limit it. The more people that know the more chances you have of getting busted.

[StrayRogue]

Yep. I felt partly responsible for getting it busted, as it was all on an act of goodwill on his/their part.

[Insodus]

This whole thread has got me thinking how funny it would be if spells became a measurable commodity just how premie points have. I can see it now...

Someguy: Selling 4x longsword. ttm.
Someotherguy: I bid 10 wizard spellups.

[Landrion]

This whole thread has got me thinking how funny it would be if spells became a measurable commodity just how premie points have. I can see it now...

Someguy: Selling 4x longsword. ttm.
Someotherguy: I bid 10 wizard spellups.

I see people selling wizard spellups (or soliciting them) for about 15k a shot on the net daily.

[Insodus]

Yea I do to, and it seems ridiculous to me.

1) All classes cant hunt without outside spell circles on when trained and played right.

2) If its that big a deal, pay 14 bucks, start a second account, lvl a wizard to 20 in a week and boom, spellups for life.

[Asha]

1) All classes cant hunt without outside spell circles on when trained and played right.


Heh, Typo? :)

[El Burro]

2) If its that big a deal, pay 14 bucks, start a second account, lvl a wizard to 20 in a week and boom, spellups for life.

And only $15 per month for life! Or 1 million silvers per month on the black market... 500k per month FTW!!!

[Gan]

You have to admit. The idea of contracting out is attractive and very business minded. I think that th e 500k is steep for some, but when looking at it in a silver conversion sense, its right on track.

Its just not feasable to do it afk; ergo its not a service that would be available 24 hours a day which limits your customers to being online when the spell provider is online and at the keyboard.

[Sinsafaray]

Well since there has been no actual intrest, and since the majority state that an AFK service such as this would be against policy. I am pondering how an active service for this can be done easily. At this time the offer has been removed.

Thank you all for your imput.

Sins

[Asha]

Sorry it wouldn't work for ya, man.
Gotta try what you can to get coin I know.

[Gan]

I like the line of thinking, and its definately an 'in demand' service since there are some willing to pay for spellups.

Its just the logistics you'll need to work out.

Good luck.

[Stunseed]

< I am pondering how an active service for this can be done easily. >

Define easily. I believe you can still offer the service, truth be told. Offer it for the time you'll be online, no limit spellups while the character is there. Highlight/macro/sound your customers and leave the Mage in restmode. When the sound you choose is heard, alt+tab over to that screen, spell them up, and continue your business.

You may lose out on some business, however, if you play for a decent length of time ( 8pm EST to 12am EST or so ), you might be able to pull it off.

[Artha]

I'm pretty sure you could fully automate it using JSE and probably Lich.

[Silique]

You could fully automate it in Wizard as well.

[Tray]

I don't think that was ever in question. Setting it up would be the easy part. Getting away with it when so many people are aware of it would be the difficult part.

[Lucas]

I don't see why anyone would pay for wiz spellups. I've level'd a wizard to title and just have him pump out rods and imbed with <wizard spell>. Give bag of rods to characters that need em, have those characters invest a couple of points of MIU and voila!