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[The Ponzzz]

Those who post both spots know, I'm pretty active on the official forums. And there's just ONE mother fucking thing that pisses me off to NO fucking end. That being...

...Grammar Nazis.

I won't fucking lie, I typo a good amount of the time. And most the time when I'm not either at work or writing something important, I don't proof read what I post.

Atleast here, when I do see I FUBARed an entire sentence I can attempt to quickly fix it up, but on the officials, I can only delete! And if someone already responded, there's no way to delete the thread!

What the mother fuck!? I just see someone responded to a post to not answer the question and just bring up the stupid ass grammar problems and mock ya is fucking lame!!

I was brought up in an Italian home for the first 5 years of my life that english was hardly used. To this day, I try to pronounce things like I would in Italian(English and all it's stupid rules withy vowels!).

Anyways, it's petty and dumb that it bothers me so much, but just a random thought I needed to express at 4am.

[Sean of the Thread]

You used too many commas.

[The Ponzzz]

LMAO, much, hate, ...

[vontez]

Yeah, grammar nazis are teh suck, mostly just big dorks who haven't gotten laid in years. they feel the need ot pick on that because it's the only satisfaction they can get out of life...

[Liberi Fatali]

Yeah, grammar nazis are teh suck, mostly just big dorks who haven't gotten laid in years. they feel the need ot pick on that because it's the only satisfaction they can get out of life...

While this may be true, some people just type things that are plain idiotic. For example, there was an advertisement on the boards for some sort of PRO event and it read the following:

"YOUR INVITED!!!!!!!!!!"

My invited WHAT?

[HarmNone]

And your correction of that glaring error is going to do exactly what?

[The Ponzzz]

And your correction of that glaring error is going to do exactly what?

Exactly!

I mean, just let it go, they fucked up, the point is still getting out there.

My issues, generally, are only in the rogue folder. Not only do we have quite a few people that think their shit don't stink, we have the typical english/literture/drama majors from college. Though I understand you try to use the degree for everything when it can't land a decent job. I do it every day with business!

[Fallen]

Put up a sig that says, "Any Jerk that corrects my grammar/spelling will be ignored." Make a few semi-obvious mistakes, and when the asshats jump on your case, Ignore your problems away.

[CrystalTears]

I don't like it when it's done here either. :(

[Usurper83]

Now, I'm not really a grammar nazi on the officials, because it is damn annoying as far as message board etiquette goes to just sit there and pretend you're smarter because you can write better (at least, more grammatically correct). Sitting there and proofreading the boards as an editor would seems.. well, kind of boring to me, and I could spend that time doing other things.

That said, the only thing that drives me bonkers is the people from the midwest (and other locations) that use the phrase that is structured as <subject> <verbed>.

An example is: The window needs fixed.

Where the fuck did the to be go to?

This is the only thing I rag on because it just hurts my head, and makes me happy I don't live in a place where people use this often. Though, I try not to actually reply to their post and fix it, but instead if I have something germane to the discussion, I'll just fix it in the quotes, because it helps me sleep at night.

[TheEschaton]

People say "The Window needs fixed"?

This is a cold blooded murder of the English tongue.

Oi!

-TheE-

[Artha]

Buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.

Best gramatically correct sentence ever ^

[Wezas]

[09:57] Faygala: My consolation prize was tickets to the Greek Festival
[09:57] Dougl: rediculous
[09:57] Faygala: stop that.

[StrayRogue]

I'm not as anal about English as some people (Rhett, Bob etc), but I think it's very lazy and a good indication of your education (or lack of) when you cannot be bothered to even construct a post, sentence or paragraph without some consideration for the reader.

Grammar and spelling are rules designed to make reading and communicating as easy as possible for a wide scope of people. People who ignore these rules just make it harder for themselves.

[Landrion]

I'm not as anal about English as some people (Rhett, Bob etc), but I think it's very lazy and a good indication of your education (or lack of) when you cannot be bothered to even construct a post, sentence or paragraph without some consideration for the reader.

Grammar and spelling are rules designed to make reading and communicating as easy as possible for a wide scope of people. People who ignore these rules just make it harder for themselves.

Yeah that. I dont correct peoples posts. My own typing is far from perfect. However, when I start reading some tangled mess that's barely legible, I scroll past and dont bother.

And no, Mario's posts are not what Im talking about. I dont even think of him as having bad spelling or grammar.

[Wezas]

I'll use a typo to my advantage if it makes their sentance more humorous.

Also if the person is a complete tool or throwing out insults left and right I'll be sure to point out any retardedness.

[Drew]

Buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.

Best gramatically correct sentence ever ^

I also like: Badgers badgers badger badger badgers.

[Usurper83]

I also like: Badgers badgers badger badger badgers.

Mushrooms mushrooms!

[Jorddyn]

I don't care a bit if there are a few typos in a post.

Horrible, constant misuse of your/you're, their/they're/there, its/it's is weakening my brain, though, and now I have to read my own words two or three times because I can't figure out which is write.

~T

(Yes, that's on purpose)

[Kainen]

The only way you would have the right to point out someone else's small mistakes is if you're perfect, and I would bet that no one is. Glaring mistakes that make what is read unclear, are a differant matter.

[Latrinsorm]

I mean, just let it go, they fucked up, the point is still getting out there.And people wonder why Japan beats us all the time in scholastics.

Anyway, it disappoints me that some people are so quick to assume that a person who corrects others is doing so solely out of malice or the pursuit of petty pleasure. When my brother tells me I'm not playing a certain class of fly balls correctly, I don't assume he's doing so just to pump up his ego. Why is it so inconceivable to some people for the same sort of correction-from-concern to occur in grammar?

[CrystalTears]

Why is it so inconceivable to some people for the same sort of correction-from-concern to occur in grammar?
Because this isn't an English class.

[The Ponzzz]

I'm talking about typos on a BBS. Not my essay for college, not my report for work. I am simply saying if I type 'togehter' on accident or get side tracked irl and double type a 'the,' get over it!

If the only thing you are going to do with a response is critize my spelling, grammar or mis use of my semicolon, fuck off. Heh! If I say "Hey, what's the deal with with the quset in prime?" And you respond with, "I never heard of a quset before!" That's fucking petty and big fucking asshole thing to do.

[Landrion]

And people wonder why Japan beats us all the time in scholastics.

Anyway, it disappoints me that some people are so quick to assume that a person who corrects others is doing so solely out of malice or the pursuit of petty pleasure. When my brother tells me I'm not playing a certain class of fly balls correctly, I don't assume he's doing so just to pump up his ego. Why is it so inconceivable to some people for the same sort of correction-from-concern to occur in grammar?

Good analogy. I assume your brother recognizes and sees that you actually pay attention to his advice. If you gave his every suggestion lip and an excuse like "Who are you to correct me, baseball isnt my native sport, this isnt the majors", eventually hed get sick of talking to you. Perhaps after enough rebuffs he'd even take pleasure in the fact that your game suffered for it - or just stop watching while you played. See where Im going with this analogy?

[Landrion]

I'm talking about typos on a BBS. Not my essay for college, not my report for work. I am simply saying if I type 'togehter' on accident or get side tracked irl and double type a 'the,' get over it!

If the only thing you are going to do with a response is critize my spelling, grammar or mis use of my semicolon, fuck off. Heh! If I say "Hey, what's the deal with with the quset in prime?" And you respond with, "I never heard of a quset before!" That's fucking petty and big fucking asshole thing to do.

Theres a difference between nitpick and unreadable. You're not even close to unreadable, so I can see why youre annoyed by nitpicks.

[Latrinsorm]

Because this isn't an English class.Unlike other people here, I can't read someone's mind through the Internet, so I can't know for sure if a mistake is made because a person is mailing it in (so to speak) or if they just don't know better. Obviously I'm not concerned with obvious typos like "and" becoming "adn" (or that quest/quset thing), because I don't think anyone capable of using a computer doesn't know how to spell "and". For common mistakes, I can only go by the experience I have with the person. If I have none, it is best to err on the side of caution, don't you agree?
See where Im going with this analogy?Patience is a virtue. :)

[Sean]

And people wonder why Japan beats us all the time in scholastics.

Anyway, it disappoints me that some people are so quick to assume that a person who corrects others is doing so solely out of malice or the pursuit of petty pleasure. When my brother tells me I'm not playing a certain class of fly balls correctly, I don't assume he's doing so just to pump up his ego. Why is it so inconceivable to some people for the same sort of correction-from-concern to occur in grammar?

Because unlike you probably soliciting advice from your brother on how to field certain fly balls.. no one asked you for help correcting their grammar.

[Latrinsorm]

How could I solicit advice if I didn't know I was doing it wrong?

[StJimmy]

I don't know why people feel the need to 'educate' others and publicly point out their spelling errors. If you're genuinely so concerned about their literary welfare, send them a private note or something. I've noticed it's most commonly used on the officials as a way to try and belittle someone. We're not posting on an 'how to write correct English' board ffs, common sense would probably suggest they're not asking for help in writing.

[CrystalTears]

How could I solicit advice if I didn't know I was doing it wrong?
The thing is, for the most part, people don't want to be corrected on their spelling and/or grammar on a message board. And if all you're contributing to a thread is correcting someone's grammatical flaws, you're just being petty.

[The Ponzzz]

Well, I'm just glad people see it the way i do! Yes my 'i' isn't captialized and I don't care!

[StrayRogue]

My God you rogue!

[Merzbow]

I could care less about grammar/spelling in posts, what I care about is typos in GAME messaging that don't get fixed for ages despite getting reported. Naos fucked up the Darkstone entrance messaging with two whoppers last week and it still hasn't been fixed.

[RageOfMage]

Any and all of us can and certainly do make typos of the the/teh variety. By and large, these should be ignored. We're all human.

However, the repetitive misuse of your/you're and there/their/they're is annoying to many readers (yes, including me). Similary, adding unnecessary apostrophes to plurals, not using them in contractions, and refusing to hit the SHIFT key to form capital letters also make me scratch my head. (EDIT: I'm talking abuse of these things, not typical human error).

For the most part, we follow the rules when we play GS, drive our cars, and pay taxes. Why not when we communicate in writing?

[Latrinsorm]

common sense would probably suggest they're not asking for help in writing.The whole point is that they don't know (presumably).
If you're genuinely so concerned about their literary welfare, send them a private note or something.On the official boards, there is no P2P message function. Though there is a play.net email redirection service, not everyone sets it up. The correcter would have to at least publically say "hey does your play.net email redirection work?" and without any context it sounds sorta creepy, don't you think?
The thing is, for the most part, people don't want to be corrected on their spelling and/or grammar on a message board.I recognize that some people for whatever reason don't care about English on message boards. As I said earlier, I can't read minds across the Internet, so I can't discern between ignorance and aloofness.
And if all you're contributing to a thread is correcting someone's grammatical flaws, you're just being petty.That is not necessarily the case, as I described earlier. Why would I constrain my concern for others because I don't have anything else to contribute to some thread? How is "being on-topic" more important than "sympathy"?

[Atlanteax]

Are you intentionally trying to be an antagonist, Latrinsorm?

[StrayRogue]

When is he not?

[CrystalTears]

He's always like this.


How is "being on-topic" more important than "sympathy"?
How are you being sympathetic by doing nothing but outting and correcting someone's grammatical flaws? Are you that bored?

The only time I find this acceptable is when the person they are correcting is just being your standard Asshole-in-a-box and all you have left to do is make fun of that because the obvious has already been done.

That and I hate walls of text. I WILL say something about that.

[Skirmisher]

And people wonder why Japan beats us all the time in scholastics.

Anyway, it disappoints me that some people are so quick to assume that a person who corrects others is doing so solely out of malice or the pursuit of petty pleasure. When my brother tells me I'm not playing a certain class of fly balls correctly, I don't assume he's doing so just to pump up his ego. Why is it so inconceivable to some people for the same sort of correction-from-concern to occur in grammar?

You are being naive in this point.

[HarmNone]

Why is it so inconceivable to some people for the same sort of correction-from-concern to occur in grammar?

If one is overcome by a monumental need to perform such altruistic corrections, one can certainly do so using IM or PM, or even e-mail. I'm sure the person being corrected would appreciate it far more than having errors pointed out in a public manner. Of course, that would tend to knock out the secondary gain, but the "good deed" would still get done.

[Latrinsorm]

Are you intentionally trying to be an antagonist, Latrinsorm?I antagonize only errors. I am always allied with my human brothers and sisters. If I was not, why would I bother?
How are you being sympathetic by doing nothing but outting and correcting someone's grammatical flaws? Are you that bored?When I find out I've been making a mistake, I generally feel worse if I've made it more or for longer periods of time. I don't think I'm especially unique in that regard, so it stands to reason that helping other people see their errors is better than letting it go to some undefined later point in time.

If not me, who? If not now, when?
If one is overcome by a monumental need to perform such altruistic corrections, one can certainly do so using IM or PM, or even e-mail.As I've already said, the official BBS has no PM function. It does have an email redirection service, but that has to be set up by the user, so there's no guarantee it's set up. As for IMs, it's certainly not the case that everyone on the officials has their SN in their posts.

The saddest thing about being unable to conceive of altruistic behavior anymore is that it can quickly become a self-fulfilling prophecy. :(

[CrystalTears]

You do it HERE, Latrin. What's your excuse here that you have to do it publicly instead of privately if you're trying to be oh so sympathtic to this poor soul and his atrocious spelling and grammar?

Instead of throwing this altrustic garbage around, how about you just assume that if they didn't ask, they didn't want to know.

[HarmNone]

:break: C'mon, Latrinsorm! You can use the person's posting name followed by @play.net and get an e-mail to them if you have such a profound need to "help" them along in their learning of spelling and grammar. As I said, the secondary gain will be forfeit, but ... well, you don't really need that when your purpose is so selfless, now do you?

[Tisket]

I'll use a typo to my advantage if it makes their sentance more humorous.

Sentence.

[Latrinsorm]

You do it HERE, Latrin.Oh, I didn't know we were talking about me. I thought we were talking about people on the official BBS.
What's your excuse here that you have to do it publicly instead of privately if you're trying to be oh so sympathtic to this poor soul and his atrocious spelling and grammar?On these boards, the PM feature isn't very noticeable. For longtimers I try to use PMs, but sometimes I forget and do it in threads.
altrustic garbage:( What have I done that makes you think I'm a liar?
You can use the person's posting name followed by @play.net and get an e-mail to them if you have such a profound need to "help" them along in their learning of spelling and grammar.HarmNone, that only works if the user has specifically set it up. Simutronics doesn't have an email-address directory to look people up or something. For a long time, I didn't have mine set up. I don't see any reason why everybody else would necessarily set it up either. :shrug:

[Landrion]

Sentence.

See now I wasnt gonna touch that one. It seemed like bait in this particular thread.

[CrystalTears]

I guess my point is, since you're not getting it, Latrin... why do you feel the need to do it at all? Can't you just lean on the side of not needing to be corrected and just not say anything?

[The Ponzzz]

Latrin might be a mom! Sorry, had to...

[Latrinsorm]

why do you feel the need to do it at all?I don't believe in things working themselves out by chance. For instance, I don't believe that something is just going to happen and I'll get into grad school. I don't believe that something is just going to happen and my math homework will be done.

I believe that if we want something fixed, we have to do something about it.

I concede that it is possible that I am overly cautious about this and stuff in general, and it certainly wouldn't be the end of the world if someone went to eir grave with a misspelling. However, I have not seen any arguments put forth for why I shouldn't be.

[HarmNone]

HarmNone, that only works if the user has specifically set it up. Simutronics doesn't have an email-address directory to look people up or something. For a long time, I didn't have mine set up. I don't see any reason why everybody else would necessarily set it up either. :shrug:

I might be tempted to surmise that if someone hadn't set up to receive e-mail through their play.net address, they didn't want any e-mail from me; especially, unsolicited comments on my grammar and/or spelling.

Not everyone is pining away waiting for your gratuitous assistance, Latrinsorm. As CT pointed out, that seems to be a message you're resistant to receiving.

[HarmNone]

I don't believe in things working themselves out by chance. For instance, I don't believe that something is just going to happen and I'll get into grad school. I don't believe that something is just going to happen and my math homework will be done.

Both of the things you mention relate directly to you, Latrinsorm. Controlling your own life is fine. If you want to go to grad school, you need to work for it; however, you don't have the right to decide that everyone needs to go to grad school. Neither should you be doing someone else's math homework


I believe that if we want something fixed, we have to do something about it.

What if someone else doesn't really care to have you "fix" them? What if they don't feel they're "broken"?


I concede that it is possible that I am overly cautious about this and stuff in general, and it certainly wouldn't be the end of the world if someone went to eir grave with a misspelling. However, I have not seen any arguments put forth for why I shouldn't be.

Why you shouldn't be what?

[ELO]

I was brought up in an Italian home for the first 5 years of my life that english was hardly used.

I thought you were Mexican, or something.

[AestheticDeath]

And people wonder why Japan beats us all the time in scholastics.

Anyway, it disappoints me that some people are so quick to assume that a person who corrects others is doing so solely out of malice or the pursuit of petty pleasure. When my brother tells me I'm not playing a certain class of fly balls correctly, I don't assume he's doing so just to pump up his ego. Why is it so inconceivable to some people for the same sort of correction-from-concern to occur in grammar?

Uh I hate to point this out. But almost everytime I see someone pointing out grammar mistakes on these boards, it is soley to make the person look stupid and bolster the position of the person correcting them. It doesn't actually help them in anyway, but they always seem to use it as a "Your stupid, so why should anyone listen to your point of view?"

If you can find some instances on these boards of people actually being concerned for the other posters mistakes being a lack of education, rather than just a personal attack, I will eat vegetables for the next week. Or at least during one meal.

[HarmNone]

We've had one instance (that I know of) of a person actually asking for correction of errors in English grammar and spelling. Xcalibur asked at one time. There could be some corrections found for his errors that were given solely in an effort to help. :)

[Lassiter 506]

I've never pictured the patrons of this board to be those who catered towards addressing issues of microaggression. if someone did not take the time to grammar check their own postings, why would I bother to do it for them ? I only correct my girlfriend's grammar because she's British, and therefore deserves it.

[Artha]

You should watch her spelling too, make sure she doesn't get too free with the silent vowels.

[HarmNone]

I've never pictured the patrons of this board to be those who catered towards addressing issues of microaggression.

Heh. For the most part, I'll agree, Lassiter. However, we have our "crosses" to bear, just like everyone else. :D

[Latrinsorm]

I might be tempted to surmise that if someone hadn't set up to receive e-mail through their play.net address, they didn't want any e-mail from meThat sure is a tempting conclusion. However, I can remember that when I was actually trying to set mine up, it was still pretty tough to find. This suggests to me that it's pretty unlikely for people to just know about it as a matter of course.
As CT pointed out, that seems to be a message you're resistant to receiving.The person making an error I'm looking to help is the one who doesn't know any better. As I told Sean, I can't expect people to ask for help when they don't even know they're doing something wrong. There are also people who'll make an error just by accident or by not caring, but there's no way to tell the difference from here without actually asking them and therefore pointing it out anyway.
What if someone else doesn't really care to have you "fix" them? What if they don't feel they're "broken"?Dictionaries don't conform to feelings, that's the whole point of having dictionaries.

To be clear though (and by "be clear" I mean "prevent future insinuations against my character"), I don't consider people to be "broken" or in need of "fix"ing because they make a grammatical mistake. My purpose is to fill a void of knowledge and possibly engage in high-fiving afterwards.
Why you shouldn't be what?Cautious.
If you can find some instances on these boards of people actually being concerned for the other posters mistakes being a lack of education, rather than just a personal attackThe most recent one I can remember is here: http://forum.gsplayers.com/showpost.php?p=518234&postcount=18

I recommend stir fry for your vegetable delight. I've found raw vegetables to be a little eh.

[HarmNone]

Dictionaries don't conform to feelings, that's the whole point of having dictionaries.



A person can consult a dictionary any time they wish. The dictionary doesn't come, uninvited, to them. Also, there is no secondary gain for the dictionary through the provision of the information being sought.

I think some people are trying to tell you, and others who feel it's their place to correct the grammatical and spelling errors of others, that they don't want your freaking help! :banghead:

[Latrinsorm]

I'm just going to restate the example I posted before about my brother and leave it at that.

I didn't know I was playing a certain class of fly balls incorrectly (analogy: misuing words); after all, I was catching some of them (analogy: getting the message across, more or less). My brother, who is a much better informed baseball player than I am, did know that I was playing incorrectly, and corrected me (analogy: when someone corrects the first person). It was obvious to him that I was incorrect, but I had no idea. The only reasonable conclusion he could draw was that I would neither happen upon the correct method nor spontaneously ask him about the situation (because as far as I could tell nothing was wrong with my method), so he stepped in reasonably corrected me though I did not ask.

It would be correct to say I did not want his help prior to him offering; it would be impossible for me to without realizing I was doing something wrong! If I had known my method was wrong, it would be irrational to not want help.

[LMingrone]

That reminded me of Billy Madison's lost dog speech.

[Jazuela]

I don't think I've corrected anyone's grammar or spelling in a long time on these boards and I don't read the official forums at all so obviously I don't correct anyone there either.

I'm pretty casual with my grammar, but I'm casual from an educated "knows better but just doesn't feel like thinking too hard about not ending her sentence with a preposition today" way. What saddens me is that so many people genuinely don't know the difference between your, you're, its and it's, there, their, and they're, and who don't have the foggiest notion about apostrophes (where they should be placed, and where they should not be placed).

Do you blame the teachers for not drilling it into their students' heads in 3rd grade the way my 3rd grade class learned? Do you blame the parents for not caring enough to make sure their kids learned the absolute basic functions of grammar and spelling and <gasp> what a homonym and synonym are? Is it just kids being lazy? Is it just natural stupidity, some newly mutated genetic mental inability? Is it the media, creating programs on TV that emphasize incorrect grammar? Who lowered the standards? Does it matter? Obviously a lot of people just plain don't give a shit.

Whatever it is, it is disheartening for children to grow up these days as functional illiterates, and that society allows and encourages it.

Edited to add the appropriate apostrophe to the end of "students" because I'm a dork :)

[Methais]

Atleast here, when I do see I FUBARed an entire sentence I can attempt to quickly fix it up, but on the officials, I can only delete! And if someone already responded, there's no way to delete the thread!

YOU MISSED A SPACE AT THE BEGINNING OF THAT PARAGRAPH OMG LEARN PROPER GRAMMAR ASSHOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111

[The Ponzzz]

I cry 2000 tears tonight!

[Shari]

I didn't read all the posts, so my apologies of someone already said what I'm about to say.

I don't spell perfectly, and I don't type perfectly (worse if I'm drinking sangria :( )

The ONLY time I'll maliciously rip into someone's spelling/typing ablity is when said-typer puts out something like this:

"geezus u r fuking stupit"

Yeah. That person MAY have 3 engineering degrees, but you're far from genius yourself if you can't type/spell correctly. Or you're lazy, which in that case doesn't make you rank farther up than the person you're attempting to insult.

That is all.

[Tsa`ah]

And people wonder why Japan beats us all the time in scholastics.


Maybe because it's a completely different society with a completely different set of values?

Maybe it's because your school, grades, and test scores are pretty indicative of what you'll be doing the rest of your life in Japan?

Maybe it's because beating your child for poor scholastic performance is something not widespread in the US (semi-joke)?

It's a matter of priorities and I dare say that one would have to have some pretty priority sets to nitpick grammar on a gaming BBS. I fine tooth everything involving my job and business (although decimal placement fucks me up once a month ... that's not grammar though, that's inferior Jew genes), personal, involving the education of my children and so on. Message boards involving games are at the very bottom of that list.

About the only time I'll make a comment is in reaction to someone else's, and I'll pretty much unload if that person is sitting on a mountain of errors themselves. That and netspeak ... I'll pull someone's eye out with a spork over net speak.

Depending on what's going on around me, my levels of energy and interest, basically my attention to what I'm posting ... mistakes will get through. Sorry, but if you think your existence is that important in my life ... well, you're the one in error.

It boils down to one of two things, over compensating for real life inadequacies or lashing out in the only way you can to a perceived slight to the attention you get on the internet.

I know plenty of people who are grammatic geniuses with perfect spelling, the reality of that situation is it's pretty much the only thing they have going for them. Have fun with your career as the live in BBS spell check until a position of your dream job "professional proof reader" opens up.

[Rainy Day]

When I find out I've been making a mistake, I generally feel worse if I've made it more or for longer periods of time. I don't think I'm especially unique in that regard, so it stands to reason that helping other people see their errors is better than letting it go to some undefined later point in time.

I see both sides. Much of the grammar and spelling nitpicking that takes place on any message board is of the annoying variety and doesn't help anyone.

But I also agree with the above that a lot of times people are unknowingly making a mistake and like to be told about it so they don't keep making it.

I'm a pretty decent speller, but there are a few words that I habitually misspell without realizing it. One of them was "rediculous". It was somone correcting someone else's post on the officials that pointed out to me I'd been doing it wrong and I immediately began spelling it correctly after that. If I hadn't seen such corrections, I'd still be spelling it wrong. I'd rather know than continue to look stupid.

There is a difference between that sort of correction of someone who keeps making the same mistake, and the typical nitpick corrections that don't come across as anything other than snotty.

People who mix up your/you're irritate the hell out of me. Normally I don't say anything, but sometimes when it's the same repeat offender I can't help myself.

RD

[Tisket]

I think it's a simple matter of respect. I feel it's respectful to spend an extra few seconds proofreading my own posts on behalf of those that will have to wade through whatever it is I am putting out there to be read. If you feel you have something worthwhile to say why WOULDN'T you do the same? If people are expending their energy simply deciphering your post sometimes the impact of the message is lost.

[Skirmisher]

I think it's a simple matter of respect. I feel it's respectful to spend an extra few seconds proofreading my own posts on behalf of those that will have to wade through whatever it is I am putting out there to be read. If you feel you have something worthwhile to say why WOULDN'T you do the same? If people are expending their energy simply deciphering your post sometimes the impact of the message is lost.

I completely agree with this sentiment.

[cakewitharse]

I completely agree with this sentiment.
As do I. I actually agree with it enough to make it my signature. Huzzah, Tisket!

[Sean]

I think it's a simple matter of respect. I feel it's respectful to spend an extra few seconds proofreading my own posts on behalf of those that will have to wade through whatever it is I am putting out there to be read. If you feel you have something worthwhile to say why WOULDN'T you do the same? If people are expending their energy simply deciphering your post sometimes the impact of the message is lost.

For the most part no I wouldn't do the same. I agree in instances like an unparagraphed wall of text, typing like hevinsbane, etc. But the majority of it occurs when it's stupid things like a misplaced comma or a misspelled word. You can still decipher/read/understand when someone uses their/they're/there wrong and you can still follow an idea when someone doesn't use an apostrophe properly. Nitpicking over spelling or punctuation publically isn't really trying to help them and honestly in my opinion it's really just going out of your way to attempt embarass them.

PS: I'm sure I misspelled several things in this post and I'm okay with it

PPS to Latrin: I feel a lot differently when a family member like my brother corrects my flaws than when some jackass (read:you) corrects me on the internet over something trivial.

[CrystalTears]

For the most part no I wouldn't do the same. I agree in instances like an unparagraphed wall of text, typing like hevinsbane, etc. But the majority of it occurs when it's stupid things like a misplaced comma or a misspelled word. You can still decipher/read/understand when someone uses their/they're/there wrong and you can still follow an idea when someone doesn't use an apostrophe properly. Nickpicking over spelling or punctuation publically isn't really trying to help them and honestly in my opinion it's really just going out of your way to attempt embarass them.
:yeahthat:

P.S. I'm sure Sean misspelled several things in this post and I'm okay with it too.

[The Ponzzz]

I agree that spelling and grammar is a part of being able to communicate well. What I'm saying, is over an IM, BBS or in a game where my text could be rushed or where it's not as important, I may slip up. Just like getting tongue tied talking to a friend or having an airhead moment.

The only time I REALLY proof read on the BBS/forums is when I'm posting an idea. And to be honest, I just throw it through a spell checker. I won no spelling bees, but did score as high as I could in sentence structure during college. It was a test, and I took my time, which I am not doing currently.

And like Sean said. If my mom or sister were correcting me, I would be like, ah, I'm a dumb ass. But if someone I hardly know points out the same minor thing my mom or sister did, I would tell ya to fuck off and ask you how your career in correcting people on the internet has been going.

I r knot purrfekt, I no this. Plz doun't pont eet owt 2 m3, kthx.

[HarmNone]

I think it's a simple matter of respect. I feel it's respectful to spend an extra few seconds proofreading my own posts on behalf of those that will have to wade through whatever it is I am putting out there to be read.

Actually, Tisket, I agree with you. I make an effort to ensure my posts are intelligible. However, I don't feel I have the right to call the shots on how others feel about this same thing, or what they are to do.

If I find a post unreadable, I don't read it. I have been known to drop a PM to someone suggesting a change or two that would make their post easier to read when I thought it might help. I still don't think correcting peoples' grammar and spelling publicly (especially, on these boards where a PM is easy to do) is the way to go. It just embarrasses that person, and often causes them to feel ridiculed. If a PM is sent, they can either take your advice and thank you for it, or tell you to take your advice elsewhere. That is their right, as far as I'm concerned. :shrug:

[Artha]

I type perfectly all the time, naturally. Artha > *

[Skirmisher]

Anyone who disagrees with me sucks.

[HarmNone]

PPS to Latrin: I feel a lot differently when a family member like my brother corrects my flaws than when some jackass (read:you) corrects me on the internet over something trivial.

I think you've made an important point here, Sean. It's a lot different when a family member, or a teacher/tutor corrects you than to have someone you don't even know publicly jump in to "save you from yourself". It sets up an "I know all, you know nuttin'" scenario that just isn't much fun for the one on the corrected end of the stick. Besides, in my experience, those who are quick to correct others can usually, with just a bit of research, be found to have made similar mistakes themselves. None of us is perfect.

[Latrinsorm]

I feel a lot differently when a family member like my brother corrects my flaws than when some jackass (read:you) corrects me on the internet over something trivial.Aha, but we're all family. :)

It's a little ironic to hear Tsa`ah be so disinterested in spelling when he pitched a bit of a fit over some folks misspelling his handle as Tsa'ah.

In a broader sense, now that Tsa`ah and Sean can unequivocally tell what people are thinking, could one or both of you guys help me out with something? I'm wondering what a friend of mine wants for her birthday (in terms of material goods), but I'd rather not ask her. If you could just read her mind and let me know, I'd really appreciate it. :)

[Sean]

Aha, but we're all family. :)

It's a little ironic to hear Tsa`ah be so disinterested in spelling when he pitched a bit of a fit over some folks misspelling his handle as Tsa'ah.

In a broader sense, now that Tsa`ah and Sean can unequivocally tell what people are thinking, could one or both of you guys help me out with something? I'm wondering what a friend of mine wants for her birthday (in terms of material goods), but I'd rather not ask her. If you could just read her mind and let me know, I'd really appreciate it. :)

I've made no such claim. But if your objection is to me taking the stance that you could read a post/statement where someone misuses an apostrophe or misuses their/there/they're or a similar make then by all means prove me wrong and find a post where a simple grammatical error made a post unreadable. I don't actually expect you to do this, as I know I certainly wouldn't but I do feel my post was grounded in reality.

But since you insist on having me use my "powers" i'm reaching out to her now and what I'm sensing is that the best gift from you would be to detach yourself completely from her life because she recognizes a life without Eric is a better life.

[Wezas]

Coley's brithday is coming up?

[Latrinsorm]

Yeah, you certainly never said something like:
it's really just going out of your way to attempt embarass them.

[Sean]

Yeah, you certainly never said something like:

Holy selective snippeting batman:

"honestly in my opinion it's really just going out of your way to attempt embarass them."

My opinion is in no way an all encompassing fact.

[Wezas]

I'm a firm believer in selective snippeting for the AIM Snippets thread. But when it's part of your argument, that's just sad.

[HarmNone]

But, Wezas! When we're trying to make a point, we have to remove that which doesn't agree with our point ... don't we? Or, do we? :thinking:

[Wezas]

Wezas! i agree

Exactly.

[HarmNone]

If you're going to selectively snippet me, Wezas, please capitalize the "I".(The one I didn't use anywhere in my statement. Yeah, that one.) :P

[Satira]

Coley's brithday

Selective snippet, buy me presents!

[Latrinsorm]

I used to wonder if it was me.

It turns out, no.

[Tsa`ah]

Aha, but we're all family. :)

It's a little ironic to hear Tsa`ah be so disinterested in spelling when he pitched a bit of a fit over some folks misspelling his handle as Tsa'ah.

The possibility of relation to you dwindles to zero with each post you make. Your selective statements lead me to believe that, although an intelligent person, you really don't comprehend much of anything in the world and have accepted circular straw arguments as reality.

I believe I inferred that such responses were reactive, not preemptive (with the exception of netspeak) ... as stated:


About the only time I'll make a comment is in reaction to someone else's, and I'll pretty much unload if that person is sitting on a mountain of errors themselves. That and netspeak ... I'll pull someone's eye out with a spork over net speak.

I also believe reactions to the use of a comma instead of a tilde have been solely reserved for members (past and current) of the peanut gallery.


In a broader sense, now that Tsa`ah and Sean can unequivocally tell what people are thinking, could one or both of you guys help me out with something? I'm wondering what a friend of mine wants for her birthday (in terms of material goods), but I'd rather not ask her. If you could just read her mind and let me know, I'd really appreciate it. :)

Again, this is your lack of comprehension taking hold and infecting your thought process.

A person who makes such attacks on the same group of people day in and day out ... personal grudge.

A person who makes such attacks indiscriminately for no other reason than correcting the grammatic mistakes of others ... person with esteem problems, person compensating, person lashing out at potential threats, person who craves attention, person not having anything else going for them.

It's not critique, it's not constructive, it's e-peen stroking.

If I'm playing baseball with my brothers and friends; it's for fun. Should one of them decide to critique my mechanics the response is probably going to be "Am I Willie fucking Mays now? Is this game 7 of the world series? Stop running the bases like you're Baryshnikov and let's play the game.

It's a different story when it's one brother helping another brother in little league, it's another when they're adults and not making a career out of the game.

[Celephais]

If you're going to selectively snippet me, Wezas, please capitalize the "I".(The one I didn't use anywhere in my statement. Yeah, that one.) :P

He took the uncapitalized "i" from point... So technically that gramatical error is your fault HarmNone.

[Sean]

You forgot to make birthday present suggestions way to go Tsa`ah

[HarmNone]

He took the uncapitalized "i" from point... So technically that gramatical error is your fault HarmNone.

Gah! Damn you, Wezas! I shall cast a spell to turn you into a dung beetle!:club:



:D

[Sean]

I'll light a candle for Wezas.

[Tisket]

Aha, but we're all family. :)

It's a little ironic to hear Tsa`ah be so disinterested in spelling when he pitched a bit of a fit over some folks misspelling his handle as Tsa'ah.

In a broader sense, now that Tsa`ah and Sean can unequivocally tell what people are thinking, could one or both of you guys help me out with something? I'm wondering what a friend of mine wants for her birthday (in terms of material goods), but I'd rather not ask her. If you could just read her mind and let me know, I'd really appreciate it. :)

Jesus Christ, you are the most passive aggressive individual I have ever encountered.

[Tsa`ah]

You forgot to make birthday present suggestions way to go Tsa`ah

I'd like to point out that the only acceptable gift for an unwed/unattached female friend is multiple orgasms with the explicative ass slap followed by the rhetorical "who's your daddy".

That only applies if you are unwed and unattached as well. If you're not capable, hire someone.

/end pig.

[HarmNone]

I'll light a candle for Wezas.

The dung beetle spell is candle resistant, Sean. He's doomed! :D