A little help

[Goretawn]

Never made a ranger before. Can use input. Wanting a shadow archer. I have done some research and I think I have a decent training plan, but would like input. Stats as follows:

Level 0 Stats for XXXXXX, Elf Ranger

Strength (STR): 55
Constitution (CON): 75
Dexterity (DEX): 39
Agility (AGI): 61
Discipline (DIS): 80
Aura (AUR): 70
Logic (LOG): 79
Intuition (INT): 70
Wisdom (WIS): 60
Influence (INF): 71

Name: XXXXXX Race: Elf Profession: Ranger (not shown)
Gender: Male Age: 0 Expr: 20681 Level: 4
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 57 (3) ... 57 (3)
Constitution (CON): 75 (12) ... 75 (12)
Dexterity (DEX): 43 (2) ... 43 (2)
Agility (AGI): 63 (21) ... 63 (21)
Discipline (DIS): 80 (0) ... 80 (0)
Aura (AUR): 71 (15) ... 71 (15)
Logic (LOG): 79 (14) ... 79 (14)
Intuition (INT): 72 (11) ... 72 (11)
Wisdom (WIS): 62 (6) ... 62 (6)
Influence (INF): 71 (20) ... 71 (20)

XXXXXX (at level 4), your base skill bonuses, ranks and goals are:
Skill Name | Actual Actual
| Bonus Ranks Goals In-Game Time to Goal
Armor Use......................| 25 5 5
Combat Maneuvers..........| 15 3 3
Ranged Weapons.............| 50 10 10
Ambush.........................| 25 5 5
Physical Fitness...............| 25 5 5
Dodging..........................| 20 4 4
Harness Power.................| 25 5 5
Spirit Mana Control...........| 25 5 5
Spiritual Lore - Summoning.| 5 1 1
Survival..........................| 25 5 5
Stalking and Hiding...........| 50 10 10
Perception...................... l 40 8 8
Climbing..........................| 10 2 2
Swimming........................| 10 2 2

Spell Lists
Minor Spirit......................| 1 1

Spell Lists
Ranger............................| 4 4

Still within my month, so I can instant migrate yet. Thanks in advance.

[Dwarven Empath]

Wish I could help, but I've only played a ohe ranger.

[Goretawn]

Thanks anyway. I appreciate it.

[Numbers]

I'm assuming you're going for 100's at cap with how lowly some of those stats are placed. You're going to have a really, really rough time at the low levels with some of those stats. Archery doesn't start to get accurate until the 30's, when you'll start being able to hit consistent eye shots.

With such a low strength stat, you'll probably want to use a short bow, as your RT for a longbow would be huge. Additionally, if you want to be a sniper, be sure to keep perception and hiding at a full 2x, and ambush and dodge at a full 1x. Combat maneuvers are a personal choice, but as a ranger archer, I don't think you'd find much use for it. Why use sweep when you can use tangleweed? Multifire and smastery aren't worth it for a ranger archer.

Honestly, you may want to start off as a sword/board user until level 30 or so, and then fixskills into archery.

If it helps you any, these are the stats/skills for my 41 ranger. He's a sniper and a Voln Fu'er, and is absolutely lethal with both. Unfortunately, his magical skills have suffered, but I'm fine with that. I also didn't set my stats for growth, but thanks to the AdG, I can always work towards a reallocation potion for when/if I hit cap.

Name: XXXXXX Race: Sylvankind Profession: Ranger (not shown)
Gender: Male Age: 32 Expr: 1812179 Level: 41
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 96 (23) ... 96 (23)
Constitution (CON): 77 (13) ... 77 (13)
Dexterity (DEX): 100 (35) ... 100 (35)
Agility (AGI): 85 (22) ... 85 (22)
Discipline (DIS): 88 (14) ... 88 (14)
Aura (AUR): 77 (18) ... 77 (18)
Logic (LOG): 63 (6) ... 63 (6)
Intuition (INT): 98 (24) ... 98 (24)
Wisdom (WIS): 78 (14) ... 78 (14)
Influence (INF): 42 (-4) ... 42 (-4)
Mana: 126 Silver: 0


Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 120 30
Ranged Weapons.....................| 184 84
Brawling...........................| 184 84
Ambush.............................| 142 42
Physical Fitness...................| 142 42
Dodging............................| 142 42
Harness Power......................| 142 42
Survival...........................| 142 42
Stalking and Hiding................| 184 84
Perception.........................| 184 84
Climbing...........................| 66 14
Swimming...........................| 62 13
First Aid..........................| 66 14

Spell Lists
Minor Spirit.......................| 2

Spell Lists
Ranger.............................| 40

[Goretawn]

Thanks. You are right, my RT is 7 with a long. Going to switch to short until a bit older and stronger. I like the bow, and want to be proficient with it when I get up there. I think I will kill the cman, if smastery is not that great for me. Like you said, fixskills.

[zhelas]

Definately everything that 3704558 said. Cmans definately are a personal choice. If you do decide to get some, Sweep would possibly be your friend. Sure we have Tangleweed but there are places in the game where our spells may not work. I don't think you need Shadow Mastery personally because you have 608. I didn't do any Cmans at all. Currently I am working on finishing getting 70 ranks of armor for augmented chain. Once I get my ranks in armor and have the free points I may get sweep. Do you need chain? I would say yes. For an archer get atleast double chain. This will protect your arms from getting broken. If the gods make it that non leather armors hinder hiding and stalking i will fixskill it back to brig which is i believe 30 ranks.

The short bow is fine for speed especially if you are in a swarm. (with 606 and wizard strength it is very nice indeed) However If you find any creatures that have armor it will be like shooting spit balls at them. My ranger uses a longbow now and with the spells his RT is 4. I have thought about picking up a composit bow. That is a happy medium between the two. For the first couple of trains, I carried a crossbow for emergencies until i got better at aimig. Kneeling and firing one shot normally killed whatever I was hunting.

Make sure you 1x in Physical fitness for life. This will allow you to get redux.
Spirit Mana Control is not all that important unless you plan on sharing with friends or doing 620.

Below is my ranger and I designed him to be a skinner. He died alot while he was young but now he does better than my sorcerer. With Tangleweed and his animal companion he does very well.

Level 0 Stats for XXXXX, Elf Ranger

Strength (STR): 80
Constitution (CON): 50
Dexterity (DEX): 85
Agility (AGI): 70
Discipline (DIS): 75
Aura (AUR): 70
Logic (LOG): 70
Intuition (INT): 80
Wisdom (WIS): 60
Influence (INF): 20

Name:XXXX Race: Elf Profession: Ranger (shown as: Gamekeeper)
Gender: Male Age: 30 Expr: 2117251 Level: 44
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 94 (22) ... 94 (22)
Constitution (CON): 64 (7) ... 64 (7)
Dexterity (DEX): 100 (30) ... 100 (30)
Agility (AGI): 84 (32) ... 84 (32)
Discipline (DIS): 83 (1) ... 83 (1)
Aura (AUR): 84 (22) ... 84 (22)
Logic (LOG): 79 (14) ... 79 (14)
Intuition (INT): 94 (22) ... 94 (22)
Wisdom (WIS): 79 (14) ... 79 (14)
Influence (INF): 43 (7) ... 43 (7)

XXXXX (at level 44), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 162 62
Ranged Weapons.....................| 190 90
Ambush.............................| 145 45
Physical Fitness...................| 145 45
Dodging............................| 145 45
Arcane Symbols.....................| 15 3
Magic Item Use.....................| 90 20
Harness Power......................| 145 45
Spirit Mana Control................| 102 24
Survival...........................| 145 45
Stalking and Hiding................| 190 90
Perception.........................| 190 90
Climbing...........................| 120 30
Swimming...........................| 120 30
First Aid..........................| 145 45

Spell Lists
Minor Spirit.......................| 4

Spell Lists
Ranger.............................| 40

[Goretawn]

Thanks, this all helps. Will take it all in and see what I end up with. I know what you mean by dying quite a bit as younger. It doesnt' take much for him to get his arse kicked.

[fallenSaint]

Go sword/board til your 30 day free train is up ;P

[Goretawn]

Hah, never thought of that. No, really, didn't cross my mind. Just a bit dense some times I guess. Thanks for the smack to the back of the head.

[fallenSaint]

Archery is a pita to start from 0 with, use that and you can make level 20+ in first month then convert to archery before your free time is up and cut a bit of ease into starting with archery.

[Goretawn]

OK, I have one more day left before my instant migration ends. Any more suggestions from here on out? :help:

Level 0 Stats for XXXXX, Elf Ranger
Strength (STR): 55
Constitution (CON): 75
Dexterity (DEX): 39
Agility (AGI): 61
Discipline (DIS): 80
Aura (AUR): 70
Logic (LOG): 79
Intuition (INT): 70
Wisdom (WIS): 60
Influence (INF): 71

Name: XXXXX Race: Elf Profession: Ranger (not shown)
Gender: Male Age: 0 Expr: 99613 Level: 9
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 59 (4) ... 59 (4)
Constitution (CON): 76 (13) ... 76 (13)
Dexterity (DEX): 48 (4) ... 48 (4)
Agility (AGI): 65 (22) ... 65 (22)
Discipline (DIS): 81 (0) ... 81 (0)
Aura (AUR): 73 (16) ... 73 (16)
Logic (LOG): 80 (15) ... 80 (15)
Intuition (INT): 74 (12) ... 74 (12)
Wisdom (WIS): 64 (7) ... 64 (7)
Influence (INF): 72 (21) ... 72 (21)

XXXXX (at level 9), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 54 11
Ranged Weapons.....................| 96 22
Ambush.............................| 50 10
Physical Fitness...................| 54 11
Dodging............................| 30 6
Harness Power......................| 58 12
Spirit Mana Control................| 50 10
Survival...........................| 90 20
Stalking and Hiding................| 90 20
Perception.........................| 90 20
Climbing...........................| 5 1
Swimming...........................| 5 1
Spell Lists
Minor Spirit.......................| 1
Spell Lists
Ranger.............................| 9

[StrayRogue]

For the love of God, higher Strength.

[zhelas]

For the love of God, higher Strength.

What Stray said! I would make your strength to start with an 80. You will be hating life with a pitiful strength.

1x armor Brig you will need 30 ranks i recomend getting into chain. double chain atleast for archers. helps you from breaking your arms.
1x pf for life
2x range
1x ambush for rangers
1x dodge
1x harness power
Spirit mana control? not important at younger levels. You mainly shoot arrows. is it necessary later? No. If you want get 24 ranks over a period of time then stop.
2x hiding and stalking
2x perception
fit your climbing and swiming in when you have extra points.. should end up with 25 to 30 ranks eventually
1x in spells.

If you want to be a skinner 1x in survival and 1x in first aid.

When points free up around 30th train or so start to pick up MIU and/or Arcane

[Asha]

Why not tank all stats just for archery and later in life buy a fixstat potion (assuming anyone makes one)?
Like they said before, more strength or your RT and AS will be horrible to hunt with.
Get that agility up too.

[Sean of the Thread]

Don't forget the worst part.. not being able to carry shit.

[zhelas]

Why not tank all stats just for archery and later in life buy a fixstat potion (assuming anyone makes one)?


That would be cool to do. Assuming he still likes the character.

[Goretawn]

Thanks. I appreciate the help.