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Tromp
09-08-2006, 11:38 AM
I have a sword and board user now that is kind of boring. I'd like to convert him into my 1st pole arm user w/a good control of the Bard spell book. I know there are some experts out there that can recommend a training path.

Doughboy
09-08-2006, 11:39 AM
Ask that Maliku guy. I hear he knows a thing or two with the pole.

Wezas
09-08-2006, 11:43 AM
I think Tayre is also a pole user.

Drew2
09-08-2006, 11:46 AM
Honey I'm a pole master. Don't even question it.

Tromp
09-08-2006, 11:47 AM
Yeah well I was totally expecting these after I posted. Thanks for not letting me down. :love:

AnticorRifling
09-08-2006, 11:47 AM
I just threw up alittle.

Soulpieced
09-08-2006, 11:52 AM
Honestly, there is no such thing as bard master "anything" until you're well beyond post-cap. Frankly, you're not going to be able to train in everything to make you uber with bard training costs. Here are what I consider absolute necessities to shoot for.

2x weapon type
1x CM
1x dodge
75 air lore
Armor use to wear chain (AsG 13-15)
As many spells as possible (beyond 1x)

Drinin
09-08-2006, 12:37 PM
I'd add 1x physical fitness as well. But with those core skills, you can't go wrong. There's not much you can do to screw up a bard.

Danical
09-08-2006, 04:30 PM
I'd at least make sure the race in question is one that can swing a lance in 5 seconds with dex/agi mods.

Renian
09-08-2006, 06:16 PM
I'd at least make sure the race in question is one that can swing a lance in 5 seconds with dex/agi mods.

Or, at the very least, can with an upgraded AdG badge. Though that's a hassle, and Maliku has to put up with it, being a human and all.

Danical
09-08-2006, 06:21 PM
Very true.

Only need +3 dex or agi to get that extra -1 RT, IIRC.

From what I've seen, Rhett does damn well without the 2 second lance though.

Another thought might be to use a two handed spear on all armors except plate class and open aim for the eyes. Pick up about 20 ranks of ambush to help aim. I really liked spear shots to the eye with my warrior.

Bards also have the advantage of versatility as they can sing up a 7x double flaring weapon to suit the needs of the situation at hand.

Boris
09-09-2006, 11:42 AM
I'd at least make sure the race in question is one that can swing a lance in 5 seconds with dex/agi mods.

With AG badges this a moot point. In fact because of the AG badges picking a race due to their stat bonuses is pointless, just pickem for RP value.

Makkah
09-09-2006, 12:54 PM
Yea. With the +3 AGI badge, I'm rockin out with the 5 second (human) swing.

In about 100 TPs, I'll get that beloved 75 air lore ranks for the 2 second (currently at 3).


>skill
Maliku (at level 100), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 190 90
Combat Maneuvers...................| 255 155
Polearm Weapons....................| 302 202
Physical Fitness...................| 163 63
Dodging............................| 201 101
Arcane Symbols.....................| 96 22
Harness Power......................| 201 101
Mental Mana Control................| 62 13
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 122 31
Mental Lore - Telepathy............| 126 33
Perception.........................| 159 59
Climbing...........................| 96 22
Swimming...........................| 93 21
Trading............................| 201 101

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 52

Spell Lists
Bard...............................| 50

Renian
09-09-2006, 01:13 PM
With AG badges this a moot point. In fact because of the AG badges picking a race due to their stat bonuses is pointless, just pickem for RP value.

Incorrect, sir. Giantmen can still not obtain a 5/2 second swing. Unless you can indeed do +10 AGI base, +5 AGI bonus, +6 DEX base/+3 DEX bonus on your badge.

But that would suck nuts anyway and be hell to charge.

Makkah
09-09-2006, 01:24 PM
I gotta echo the "go with a race for RP" statement.

Renian
09-09-2006, 02:09 PM
Well you do that anyway, sure. But if you want a 5 second swing, what I'm saying is you can't so much.

Makkah
09-10-2006, 01:54 PM
It's not hard at all to maintain a +3 AGI or DEX bonus badge. Mine's lasted a couple weeks already and takes 6500 to recharge.

Renian
09-10-2006, 11:06 PM
I probably should have put an emphasis on Giants with the "not so much."

AnticorRifling
09-11-2006, 09:45 AM
Incorrect, sir. Giantmen can still not obtain a 5/2 second swing. Unless you can indeed do +10 AGI base, +5 AGI bonus, +6 DEX base/+3 DEX bonus on your badge.

But that would suck nuts anyway and be hell to charge.


I can easily swing a lance in 2 seconds and I'm a giantman.

Makkah
09-11-2006, 03:31 PM
I can easily swing a lance in 2 seconds and I'm a giantman.

Your AS is also like 300. :)

Revon1
09-11-2006, 04:02 PM
Your AS is also like 300. :)

:lol: I think the same thing everytime he boasts about his character.

AnticorRifling
09-11-2006, 04:22 PM
Your AS is also like 300. :)
Yes but its 300 very fast!