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Skirmisher
09-07-2006, 06:33 PM
Up to 20 people have sex with an eleven year old girl including a forty year old man all while a sixteen year old girl watched, possibly urging the younger girl on.

Thats just pathetic.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060907/ap_on_re_us/girl_assaulted




Wis. girl victimized by sexual assaults

By CARRIE ANTLFINGER, Associated Press Writer 22 minutes ago

An 11-year-old girl was sexually assaulted by as many as 20 boys as a 16-year-old girl watched and told her what sex acts to perform, authorities say in the latest mob attack to rock Milwaukee and set off another round of civic soul-searching.

"It almost leaves me speechless. It is just senseless acts of violence. It is inhumane. It is embarrassing to the city of Milwaukee and its people. ... There should be outrage," Barbara Nuell-Moore, director of the neighborhood-improvement group Project Respect.

The 16-year-old girl and a 15-year-old boy have been charged in juvenile court in the attack, which took place on Monday in a house on the city's north side. A 40-year-old man who also had sex with the child may also be charged, authorities said.

As for the others, "we're dealing with a lot of nicknames so we're trying to track down these people," said prosecutor Matthew Torbeson.

Numerous violent crimes have shocked the city this summer, starting with a Memorial Day weekend in which 28 people were shot. Homicides overall are down this year, but two other categories of violent crime are up from 2005 — assaults by 22 percent and robberies by 36 percent, Police Chief Nan Hegerty told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

Hegerty's spokeswoman said the chief had no comment on the alleged gang rape.

According to court papers, the 11-year-old girl told police she was interested romantically in the 16-year-old girl, who looked and dressed like a boy.

The alleged victim and two friends went to the 16-year-old's house, where the child performed oral sex on three teenage boys, according to court papers. The 40-year-old uncle of the 16-year-old admitted he also had sex with the 11-year-old and told police that the 16-year-old was directing the child, the papers said.

The 11-year-old then went to the basement, where there were about 15 males and she told police she "began to choose who she wanted to perform oral sex on," court papers said.

The 16-year-old told police that the 11-year-old had told her she wanted to perform oral sex on the boys in the house. The 16-year-old denied encouraging her.

The 16-year-old girl and the 15-year-old boy were charged with being a party to sexual assault. Torbeson said he will probably seek to have them tried as adults.

Several mob attacks have taken place in Milwaukee's inner city in recent years. In 2002, more than a dozen people, mostly boys, chased a man through the streets and beat him to death with shovel handles, rakes and tree limbs.

A mentally ill man died after being beaten and robbed by a group in 2004. Four days after that attack, a 14-year-old boy was kicked, punched and hit on the head with a piece of lumber after he exchanged words with a girl. He was in a coma for two weeks. Also that summer, four brothers were beaten by a group armed with bats, bottles, sticks and socks stuffed with canned food.

On Thursday, Alderman Mike McGee Jr. walked through the neighborhood where the alleged sexual assault happened and talked to residents. He later declared there is a crisis in the city's neighborhoods.

"We have to have the community held responsible, parents held responsible. That's the bottom line," he said.

Willie Brown, 26, who lives in the area, said Thursday that neighbors are outraged.

"If all those brains couldn't get together and figure out that was a baby?" he said, adding he has a 3-year-old daughter. "I don't have no respect or no love for people who do that." He added: "Whatever they get, they got it coming."

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radamanthys
09-07-2006, 06:50 PM
I bet she came.

Bobmuhthol
09-07-2006, 06:53 PM
She wasn't that good anyway. Wasn't worth my time or risking trial :(

Daniel
09-07-2006, 06:53 PM
Wow...

She's a ho.

Jolena
09-07-2006, 07:04 PM
You aren't a 'ho' at 11 years old. You're being taken advantage of, and most likely molested.

Apathy
09-07-2006, 07:06 PM
What has happened to "The Good Land" lately?

Artha
09-07-2006, 07:08 PM
Jesus Christ.

Asha
09-07-2006, 07:27 PM
Horrific

Bobmuhthol
09-07-2006, 07:29 PM
What would you say if it was an eleven-year-old boy that had sex with 15 teen girls?

Skirmisher
09-07-2006, 07:31 PM
Lets keep our comments based in reality please.

Miss X
09-07-2006, 07:34 PM
That's absolutely disgusting. I'd feel the same way if it was an 11 year old boy too.

Bobmuhthol
09-07-2006, 07:34 PM
...

What the fuck?

radamanthys
09-07-2006, 07:46 PM
I wouldn't think an 11 year old boy was nearly as hot, so I can't feel the same way.

ElanthianSiren
09-07-2006, 07:59 PM
I'd think it was sick if it was an 11 year old boy too for several reasons.

1. It's a kid. That's just fucking gross.

2. Given the choice between a guy who has had very few sexual partners in the past (who is over 18) and a guy who has gangbanged tons of women, I'd definitely take the more virginal of the two. Men can always be trained, but things like HIV can lay latent before detection. I don't see a past of many lurid sexual relationships as something to respect a man or woman for.

-M

DeV
09-07-2006, 08:23 PM
>> A 40-year-old man who also had sex with the child may also be charged, authorities said. <<

May also be charged? Wtf. If no one is charged, he should be. The only adult involved and this is not a definite boggles the mind. Sicko.

Bobmuhthol
09-07-2006, 08:42 PM
<<Given the choice between a guy who has had very few sexual partners in the past (who is over 18) and a guy who has gangbanged tons of women, I'd definitely take the more virginal of the two.>>

You make definite partner choices based on numbers?

Skirmisher
09-07-2006, 08:48 PM
<<Given the choice between a guy who has had very few sexual partners in the past (who is over 18) and a guy who has gangbanged tons of women, I'd definitely take the more virginal of the two.>>

You make definite partner choices based on numbers?

Unless Siren comes back and tells us that she had two males in the room with her she was considering just then, I think it's pretty safe to make the assumption that was a hypothetical "what if/either or " kind of situation Bob.

Bobmuhthol
09-07-2006, 08:50 PM
Yeah, it's a hypothetical situation, but that's irrelevant -- she still said "I'd definitely take the more virginal of the two."

Also, since when is 20 partners "less virginal" than 1 partner?

TheEschaton
09-07-2006, 08:57 PM
In the "much-less-likely-to-get-an-STD-from-1-as-opposed-to-20" sense, Bob.

I agree, girls with less partners are hotter to me. They strike me as more serious and more confident, and that's fucking hot.

As to the topic: kids are having sex younger and younger these days. Legally, only the 40 year old is implicit in a crime, and that crime is only statutory rape, if consent (on the 11 year old's part) can be proven. As to the teenagers....I don't know the age-of-consent laws in WI, but the typical case is if they're all under 18, I don't know that you can even charge them with statutory rape, which is, as far as I know, sex between an adult (18+) and a minor more than 3 years younger.

-TheE-

Bobmuhthol
09-07-2006, 09:18 PM
<<As to the topic: kids are having sex younger and younger these days.>>

Studies show that the opposite is true; more people are having sex older and older, regardless of the few exceptions.

TheEschaton
09-07-2006, 09:22 PM
Really? Maybe I've been in Africa too long, where 11 doesn't sound like an awfully young age to lose your virginity.

You have a link for such a study, Bob?

-TheE-

Bobmuhthol
09-07-2006, 09:27 PM
Studies show that the opposite is true; more people are having sex older and older, regardless of the few exceptions.

And no, because I didn't read it online.

Daniel
09-07-2006, 11:23 PM
You aren't a 'ho' at 11 years old. You're being taken advantage of, and most likely molested.

Yea okay. That's not the impression I got from the article. I may have been pretty dumb when I was 11 but I bet that somewhere deep inside I knew it's probably wrong to blow 20 guys in a basement.

I should add that I'm not vindicated the dudes in this situation. That' sprety fuckep up and that 40 year old should have his brain smashed in. However, I think its silly to totally take the responsibility of not being a total skeezer out of the girls hands. I'd also go as far to bitch smack the parent(s) of the girl in question.

Daniel
09-07-2006, 11:25 PM
And no, because I didn't read it online.

I'm sure that "study" applied to a particular subset of society.

FinallyDomesticated
09-08-2006, 01:02 AM
How 20 boys, 2 girls, and a grown man could not find a problem with this situation is beyond me.

For them to say that the adult "may" be charged - I would like to know why the hell he wouldn't be charged? He's a twisted moron who not only condoned this but who also participated. There should be serious consequences for him.

Also, the idea of an 11 year old being a "ho" or a slut is both uncomprehensible and stupid to me. If she was not majorly taken advantage of for wanting to impress the 16 year old, she has problems that she needs help for. Its a sad situation.

radamanthys
09-08-2006, 01:38 AM
By buddy D money says:

Was it like golf? Did they follow through on every shot on all 18 holes?

What a pincushion of a trampy ho. I wouldn't touch her with a 10 foot pole... but I would 10 times with an 8 inch one! Zing.

Stanley Burrell
09-08-2006, 01:58 AM
They should try people who do this type of shit for murder.

No prepubescent blob who has had sex with a 40 year old is going to live anything close to a normal life by any social norm. The guy, IMHO, = child mollestor/abuser for as long as the victim of the crime is alive.

Also, this isn't to say that this crime doesn't occur everywhere on the planet that fuckfaces exist. I think that the police's decision upon publicy giving away tidbits of information concerning the victim should be frowned upon in the highest regard if they ever want to decide not to re-tell their life story as a spokesperson for an anti-pediphelia campaign.

They should just hire Mariska Hargitay.

Satira
09-08-2006, 06:47 AM
This is horrible. I hope they get the 11 year old into a serious counseling program ASAP, because she's going to be seriously fucked up.

As far as the 40 year old goes, he should be tortured over a long period of time. Hopefully in jail.

Wezas
09-08-2006, 09:49 AM
Of course it's a horrible story, etc. etc.

Did anyone read the rest of the article?

28 people shot over memorial day weekend? WTF It's Wisconsin, not New York/Los Angeles.

That city has some crazy problems.

Artha
09-08-2006, 10:04 AM
Milwaukee's also America's drinkingest city.

Atlanteax
09-08-2006, 10:21 AM
The 40-years old man may not be charged... probably because he will be providing/assisting the DA with evidence and testimony... probably a plea bargain with a ton of hours of community service or something like that after he successfully helps get the others convicted.

Of course what he did was wrong, but unfortunately, it's the DA's greatest challenge to follow-up with numerous convictions with what likely limited to circumstancial evidence.

Artha
09-08-2006, 10:23 AM
Hopefully he'll get convicted and be dealt with by the cons in prison.

Skirmisher
09-08-2006, 10:56 AM
The older girl is one incredibly sick person too if the allegations are true.

CrystalTears
09-08-2006, 11:00 AM
Reminds me of this Autopsy episode where an older sister convinced her younger sister to have sex with her husband because that's what he wanted.

There are some crazy people out there. :(

Suppa Hobbit Mage
09-08-2006, 05:41 PM
The whole thing is sad. What's really sad is who know's who's telling the truth.

Ignot
09-08-2006, 08:41 PM
whoa. what a crazy story. on one hand, somebody (ideally the 40 yr old sicko) should have stepped in and realilzed the kid is only 11 but on the other hand, shes a hoe

Leetahkin
09-11-2006, 01:43 PM
Christ....

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,213332,00.html