TSC not a node?

[Merzbow]

Is TSC in the Landing not a node? I only get half the spirit regen rate there that I get in, say, the Small Park.

[Silvanostar]

i think its just an exp node

[Bobmuhthol]

It's not a mana/spirit node, but it is a major exp node.

[Merzbow]

Ahh. I've forgotten the rules about where the two types of nodes can be found. I thought all locations in town were considered some type of node, exp node? Or are the properties of mana/spirit node, exp node, and town location completely independent?

[Bobmuhthol]

Pretty much every room in town is at least a minor exp node.

[crb]

GMs got it in their head to fuck up the nodes in the landing quite a few years ago. They didn't like how people were congregating in certain areas. It really destroyed a lot of the small communities.

[Insodus]

This got me thinking about the difference in nodes, and I can't quite recall.

You can create a minor exp node with 213 and a mana node with 418?

A wizard can tell if its a mana node with sense, but the only way to tell if its an exp node is to fry up and watch how much you get?

That right?

[Bobmuhthol]

I don't remember any spell creating a minor experience node, but I've never tested it or anything.

<<A wizard can tell if its a mana node with sense, but the only way to tell if its an exp node is to fry up and watch how much you get?>>

This is correct as far as I know.

[Ignot]

Sense still works? I always get "You don't detect the distinct harmonies of a mana pool in the area." no matter where I sense. I have tried lots of different places but can never sense that something is a mana node even though I know it is. Can anyone post some success with this?

[TheEschaton]

>sense
You sense a mana pool in the area that can be used for enchantments. If you were lucky you think you might be able to do an incredible enchantment with the current mana available.
>look
[Wizard Guild, Workshop]
You notice a small crystalline pedestal with a small black tome on it.
Obvious exits: out
>

In Ta'I.

-TheE-

[Bobmuhthol]

Yeah, I forgot that I don't use sense ever with my wizard so I just sort of assumed that it was right.

>418
*** TypoHelp: Converted "418" to INCANT 418.
You gesture and invoke the powers of the elements for the Mana Focus spell...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture.
You struggle to gather the flows of essence in this area.
A strong whirlwind whips through the area, stirring up dust and other small pieces of debris, which form a small cloud overhead.
You feel that you have successfully been able to temporarily anchor the flows of essence in this area.
The whirlwind subsides, allowing the dust cloud to settle.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
(Forcing stance down to guarded)
>sense
You don't detect the distinct harmonies of a mana pool in the area.
>

Detecting a mana node would require looking at how much mana you get per pulse, then.

[Ignot]

so, the mana focus you create or the ones in places like TC are different from the workshops? I do not get the sense messaging with mana focus or TC. Or is sense just for enchanting purposes only?

[Anebriated]

If im not mistaken the sense verb pretty much became useless when they stopped requiring mana pools for enchanting. Maybe try using sense in a workshop too see if it is still effective there?

edit: Would help if I had read TheE's post before I posted this...

[Merzbow]

God, talk about your obsolete features.

[Bobmuhthol]

<<so, the mana focus you create or the ones in places like TC are different from the workshops?>>

Yes. Workshops have (had) mana pools, and from what I remember of the old enchanting system, you had to have a ton of mana infused in the area to successfully enchant. The sense command gave the wizard an idea as to whether or not the place they were at had sufficient mana for enchanting.

So it's pretty much useless now.

[Ignot]

Gotcha, thanks

[Latrinsorm]

Mana pools and mana nodes are two totally different things. A mana pool was used for enchanting, a mana node increases mana regeneration rate (from 15% to 25%, note that mana nodes have no effect on bonus regen from Mana Controls).

213 does create an experience node. I don't know where the term "minor" came from, but 213's experience node is as good as any other one I've ever seen.

[Bobmuhthol]

There are two levels of experience nodes. TSC, tables, etc. have the highest one. Some places give an experience bonus, but not one as good as major nodes. The only one I can name off the top of my head is forging workshops.

[El Burro]

Pretty sure you get better exp at TSC if it's 213'd. I'd bet textual money on it. Anyone care to test?

[AnticorRifling]

Too bad the mana pool means jack squat now. Sense shouldn't detect mana nodes, only mana pools.

[Anebriated]

I think thats how it works. They should change it to something more useful. Maybe change the verb so that the wizard can detect who enchanted an item or how far along in the process it is. They have 405 for that now but its just an idea.

[Latrinsorm]

Pretty sure you get better exp at TSC if it's 213'd. I'd bet textual money on it. Anyone care to test?TSC is permasancted.

[Meges]

I think sense still serves some minor function in that it'll let you know if you're in a "workshop" that might not be so obvious. There are a few of those around and one that I know of in Ta'Illistim out in the wilds. Just don't ask me to try and recall where it is, because it was back when EN was opened that I found the place and did quite a few enchants at that location back then. I think it's on the glacier over a chasm...

While Wizards no longer need the mana pools, they can still be self-assured that they're in a room that'll offer maximum bonus to the process.


Meges

[El Burro]

TSC is permasancted.

Glad you think so but it's not. Used to be though.

[Bobmuhthol]

>se
Riyne just arrived.
>
[Town Square Central]
This is the heart of the main square of Wehnimer's Landing. The impromptu shops of the bazaar are clustered around this central gathering place, where townsfolk, travellers, and adventurers meet to talk, conspire or raise expeditions to the far-flung reaches of Elanith. At the north end of the space, an old well, with moss-covered stones and a craggy roof, is shaded by a strong, robust tree. The oak is tall and straight, and it is apparent that the roots run deep. You also see a shabby calico cat, a jubilant astral spirit that is flying around, a red-necked falcon that is flying around and some stone benches with some stuff on it.
Also here: Geminischild, Lord Litzen who is sitting, Renalin who is sitting, Taelia who is sitting, Droch who is kneeling, Journeyman Nezparos who is lying down, Great Lady Athanecia who is sitting
Obvious paths: northeast, east, southeast, southwest, west, northwest
>kill bobmuhthol
Be at peace my child, there is no need to fight here.
>

Not to say that it's impossible that someone cast 213 already, but I do recall TSC being permasancted (though that's not quite true, since it seems to change every couple of months without warning).

[zhelas]

TSC is permasancted.

That is due to the Sanct police.

[Latrinsorm]

I'm pretty sure it's not, because I've had my empath in for very extended periods and at very unpopulated periods without the sanct falling.

[zhelas]

Then it is definately inconsistant. I have seen Clerics and Empaths cast the Minor Sanctuary in TSC.

[Insodus]

Thats because the permasanct has fallen a few times in the past. For example, invasions.

[El Burro]

It's not permasanct anymore and hasn't been for months.

[Latrinsorm]

Alright, so I was just in TSC for precisely one (1) hour. The only people who were also there for the duration were healers and had 230k fame and 100ishk fame, respectively.

No sanct fell. However, the room remained sancted for the entire time period.

Neither of the other people had sufficient fame to be level 60, even for pure healers. I know this because my empath is a pure healer and has over a million fame at level 43. The only other possibility besides TSC being permasancted is that someone (over level 60!) sancted, left the room, hid, and snuck back in before the sanct fell.

That's about all there is to that little riddle.