People owe me money... Sorry Tsin

[Kuyuk]

>e
[Gyldemar Road]
Thick rushes rise from the dank water, choking the area and providing excellent cover for anything small enough to fit underneath them. The rushes, combined with the water cover and unsure footing, keep the larger predators out of the area. Muskrat dens appear frequently along the edges of what might still be called a 'road,' and often one of the small, bare-tailed mammals can be seen scurrying for the safety of its home. You also see the Tsin disk, the translucent Chazym disk, a sturdy thanot chest, a brown wasp, a brown wasp, a brown wasp, a brown wasp, a brown wasp, a brown wasp, a brown wasp, a brown wasp, a brown wasp, a brown wasp, a plain wooden box, a simple monir coffer, an iron-bound modwir trunk, a scratched modwir trunk, an engraved modwir strongbox, an iron-bound tanik coffer, a dented gold trunk, a rotting modwir strongbox, a scratched brass trunk, an enruned haon trunk, a badly damaged maoral coffer, a corroded mithril strongbox, an enruned gold trunk, a plain gold trunk, an enruned thanot strongbox, a scratched modwir strongbox, a simple tanik strongbox, a badly damaged silver trunk, a plain modwir trunk, a corroded steel trunk, a scratched steel box, a simple thanot trunk, a dented gold coffer, a weathered thanot box, a badly damaged gold coffer, a battered iron box, a sturdy mithril strongbox, a rotting monir box, an engraved thanot box, a battered gold chest, a dented brass chest, a corroded mithril coffer, an engraved gold strongbox, a scratched fel coffer, a scratched maoral chest, an engraved wooden coffer, a badly damaged thanot box, an enruned monir trunk, a scratched thanot coffer, an acid-pitted gold box, a scratched maoral coffer, a sturdy tanik chest, a badly damaged monir coffer, an enruned brass box, an engraved thanot strongbox, a battered brass trunk, an engraved monir coffer, a rotting haon trunk, an engraved thanot box, an enruned mithril coffer, a sturdy thanot coffer, an iron-bound thanot trunk, an acid-pitted mithril box, an acid-pitted steel coffer, a sturdy mithril box, an engraved tanik trunk, an iron-bound maoral strongbox, a plain haon chest, a scratched steel chest, an enruned silver trunk, an engraved silver trunk, a sturdy silver strongbox, a sturdy gold chest, a weathered modwir chest, a weathered haon coffer, a simple modwir trunk, a dented gold box, a rotting modwir trunk, a weathered modwir trunk, an engraved thanot chest, a simple haon box, an enruned tanik coffer, a corroded steel chest, an enruned gold trunk, an enruned modwir strongbox, a weathered wooden trunk, a badly damaged steel box, an engraved modwir coffer, a scratched maoral strongbox, a badly damaged modwir box, a badly damaged thanot strongbox, an enruned tanik chest, a simple thanot trunk, an enruned silver trunk and a bunch of other stuff.
Also here: Tsin, Chazym, Kerstar, Edaarin, Salvitin who is sitting, Zurrainn
Obvious paths: southeast, west
>
[Gyldemar Road]
Something has died just off the road. It is far enough out in the swamp that moving off the road to investigate would be foolhardy at best, but close enough that the flies and odor are very much apparent. This, combined with the oppressive humidity, mist, sucking mud and monotonous vegetation suggest that there are probably far more interesting places one could occupy. The road, as best as can be ascertained, continues to forge northwest and east.
Obvious paths: east, northwest
>
[Gyldemar Road, Sentinels]
The roadway rises slightly above the swamp. From the appearances, someone has purposely built a small hillock here atop which two massive granite sentinels stand, silent and unmoving. No method of circumventing the sentinels presents itself. If one wishes to continue along the road in an easterly direction, one must pass between the sentinels. Westward the road slides into the swamp and fights to stay above the sucking mud. You also see a large faenor-chased basket.
Obvious paths: west
>
Your disk arrives, following you dutifully.
>w
[Gyldemar Road]
Something has died just off the road. It is far enough out in the swamp that moving off the road to investigate would be foolhardy at best, but close enough that the flies and odor are very much apparent. This, combined with the oppressive humidity, mist, sucking mud and monotonous vegetation suggest that there are probably far more interesting places one could occupy. The road, as best as can be ascertained, continues to forge northwest and east.
Obvious paths: east, northwest
>w
You can't go there.
>nw
[Gyldemar Road]
Thick rushes rise from the dank water, choking the area and providing excellent cover for anything small enough to fit underneath them. The rushes, combined with the water cover and unsure footing, keep the larger predators out of the area. Muskrat dens appear frequently along the edges of what might still be called a 'road,' and often one of the small, bare-tailed mammals can be seen scurrying for the safety of its home. You also see the Tsin disk, the translucent Chazym disk, a sturdy thanot chest, a brown wasp, a brown wasp, a brown wasp, a brown wasp, a brown wasp, a brown wasp, a brown wasp, a brown wasp, a brown wasp, a brown wasp, a plain wooden box, a simple monir coffer, an iron-bound modwir trunk, a scratched modwir trunk, an engraved modwir strongbox, an iron-bound tanik coffer, a dented gold trunk, a rotting modwir strongbox, a scratched brass trunk, an enruned haon trunk, a badly damaged maoral coffer, a corroded mithril strongbox, an enruned gold trunk, a plain gold trunk, an enruned thanot strongbox, a scratched modwir strongbox, a simple tanik strongbox, a badly damaged silver trunk, a plain modwir trunk, a corroded steel trunk, a scratched steel box, a simple thanot trunk, a dented gold coffer, a weathered thanot box, a badly damaged gold coffer, a battered iron box, a sturdy mithril strongbox, a rotting monir box, an engraved thanot box, a battered gold chest, a dented brass chest, a corroded mithril coffer, an engraved gold strongbox, a scratched fel coffer, a scratched maoral chest, an engraved wooden coffer, a badly damaged thanot box, an enruned monir trunk, a scratched thanot coffer, an acid-pitted gold box, a scratched maoral coffer, a sturdy tanik chest, a badly damaged monir coffer, an enruned brass box, an engraved thanot strongbox, a battered brass trunk, an engraved monir coffer, a rotting haon trunk, an engraved thanot box, an enruned mithril coffer, a sturdy thanot coffer, an iron-bound thanot trunk, an acid-pitted mithril box, an acid-pitted steel coffer, a sturdy mithril box, an engraved tanik trunk, an iron-bound maoral strongbox, a plain haon chest, a scratched steel chest, an enruned silver trunk, an engraved silver trunk, a sturdy silver strongbox, a sturdy gold chest, a weathered modwir chest, a weathered haon coffer, a simple modwir trunk, a dented gold box, a rotting modwir trunk, a weathered modwir trunk, an engraved thanot chest, a simple haon box, an enruned tanik coffer, a corroded steel chest, an enruned gold trunk, an enruned modwir strongbox, a weathered wooden trunk, a badly damaged steel box, an engraved modwir coffer, a scratched maoral strongbox, a badly damaged modwir box, a badly damaged thanot strongbox, an enruned tanik chest, a simple thanot trunk, an enruned silver trunk and a bunch of other stuff.
Also here: Tsin, Chazym, Kerstar, Edaarin, Salvitin who is sitting, Zurrainn
Obvious paths: southeast, west
>
Your disk arrives, following you dutifully.
>
A brown wasp flits about, looking for something to take back to the nest.
>
Chazym intones a phrase of elemental power while raising his hands...
>
Having found a trap on the strongbox, Edaarin begins to attempt to disarm it...
>
Chazym gestures at a brown wasp.
CS: +522 - TD: +414 + CvA: +25 + d100: +5 == +138
Warding failed!
A brown wasp's eyes roll up into its head as it slumps to the ground.
>
A brown wasp's wings flutter gently as it sleeps.
>
A brown wasp flits about, looking for something to take back to the nest.
>
A brown wasp flits about, looking for something to take back to the nest.
>
A brown wasp flits about, looking for something to take back to the nest.
>
Zurrainn gestures while calling upon the lesser spirits for aid...
>
Zurrainn gestures at Tsin.
A deep blue glow surrounds Tsin.
>
Chazym gestures at a brown wasp.
CS: +522 - TD: +414 + CvA: +25 + d100: +25 == +158
Warding failed!
A brown wasp's eyes roll up into its head as it slumps to the ground.
>
High Lady Rogad just arrived.
>
Chazym gestures at a brown wasp.
CS: +522 - TD: +414 + CvA: +25 + d100: +98 == +231
Warding failed!
A brown wasp's eyes roll up into its head as it slumps to the ground.
>
Chazym gestures at a brown wasp.
CS: +522 - TD: +414 + CvA: +25 + d100: +56 == +189
Warding failed!
A brown wasp's eyes roll up into its head as it slumps to the ground.
>'that's a lot of wasps
>
A brown wasp flits about, looking for something to take back to the nest.
>
A brown wasp flits about, looking for something to take back to the nest.
>
A brown wasp flits about, looking for something to take back to the nest.
>
You say, "That's a lot of wasps."
>
High Lady Rogad just went southeast.
>
Zurrainn gestures while calling upon the lesser spirits for aid...
>
Zurrainn gestures at Tsin.
A deep blue glow surrounds Tsin.
>
Chazym gestures at a brown wasp.
CS: +522 - TD: +414 + CvA: +25 + d100: +61 == +194
Warding failed!
A brown wasp's eyes roll up into its head as it slumps to the ground.
>
Chazym returns to normal speed.
>
A brown wasp flits about, looking for something to take back to the nest.
>
Chazym gestures at a brown wasp.
CS: +522 - TD: +414 + CvA: +25 + d100: +82 == +215
Warding failed!
A brown wasp's eyes roll up into its head as it slumps to the ground.
>
Lord Jameszz just arrived.
>
Lord Jameszz just went southeast.
>
A brown wasp flits about, looking for something to take back to the nest.
>
Chazym gestures at a brown wasp.
CS: +522 - TD: +414 + CvA: +25 + d100: +9 == +142
Warding failed!
A brown wasp's eyes roll up into its head as it slumps to the ground.
>
Zurrainn gestures while calling upon the lesser spirits for aid...
>
Zurrainn gestures at Chazym.
A light blue glow surrounds Chazym.
>
Chazym gestures at a brown wasp.
CS: +522 - TD: +414 + CvA: +25 + d100: +94 == +227
Warding failed!
A brown wasp's eyes roll up into its head as it slumps to the ground.
>
A brown wasp's wings flutter gently as it sleeps.
>
A brown wasp flits about, looking for something to take back to the nest.
>
Zurrainn gestures while calling upon the lesser spirits for aid...
>
Zurrainn gestures at Chazym.
A light blue glow surrounds Chazym.
>
Chazym gestures at a brown wasp.
CS: +522 - TD: +414 + CvA: +25 + d100: +33 == +166
Warding failed!
A brown wasp's eyes roll up into its head as it slumps to the ground.
>
A brown wasp flits about, looking for something to take back to the nest.
>
Chazym gestures at a brown wasp.
CS: +522 - TD: +414 + CvA: +25 + d100: +92 == +225
Warding failed!
A brown wasp's eyes roll up into its head as it slumps to the ground.
>
Zurrainn gestures while calling upon the lesser spirits for aid...
>
Zurrainn gestures at Chazym.
Chazym suddenly looks more powerful.
>
Edaarin begins to meticulously examine an engraved modwir strongbox.
>
Zurrainn gestures while calling upon the lesser spirits for aid...
>
Zurrainn gestures at Chazym.
A deep blue glow surrounds Chazym.
>
With great skill, Salvitin removes one of the chords from his harmony while maintaining the symmetry of those that remain.
>l
Zurrainn gestures while calling upon the lesser spirits for aid...
>
Zurrainn gestures at Chazym.
A deep blue glow surrounds Chazym.
>
[Gyldemar Road]
Thick rushes rise from the dank water, choking the area and providing excellent cover for anything small enough to fit underneath them. The rushes, combined with the water cover and unsure footing, keep the larger predators out of the area. Muskrat dens appear frequently along the edges of what might still be called a 'road,' and often one of the small, bare-tailed mammals can be seen scurrying for the safety of its home. You also see the Reltov disk, the Tsin disk, the translucent Chazym disk, a sturdy thanot chest, a brown wasp that is sleeping, a brown wasp that is sleeping, a brown wasp that is sleeping, a brown wasp that is sleeping, a brown wasp that is sleeping, a brown wasp that is sleeping, a brown wasp that is sleeping, a brown wasp that is sleeping, a brown wasp that is sleeping, a brown wasp that is sleeping, a plain wooden box, a simple monir coffer, an iron-bound modwir trunk, a scratched modwir trunk, an engraved modwir strongbox, an iron-bound tanik coffer, a dented gold trunk, a rotting modwir strongbox, a scratched brass trunk, an enruned haon trunk, a badly damaged maoral coffer, a corroded mithril strongbox, an enruned gold trunk, a plain gold trunk, an enruned thanot strongbox, a scratched modwir strongbox, a simple tanik strongbox, a badly damaged silver trunk, a plain modwir trunk, a corroded steel trunk, a scratched steel box, a simple thanot trunk, a dented gold coffer, a weathered thanot box, a badly damaged gold coffer, a battered iron box, a sturdy mithril strongbox, a rotting monir box, an engraved thanot box, a battered gold chest, a dented brass chest, a corroded mithril coffer, an engraved gold strongbox, a scratched fel coffer, a scratched maoral chest, an engraved wooden coffer, a badly damaged thanot box, an enruned monir trunk, a scratched thanot coffer, an acid-pitted gold box, a scratched maoral coffer, a sturdy tanik chest, a badly damaged monir coffer, an enruned brass box, an engraved thanot strongbox, a battered brass trunk, an engraved monir coffer, a rotting haon trunk, an engraved thanot box, an enruned mithril coffer, a sturdy thanot coffer, an iron-bound thanot trunk, an acid-pitted mithril box, an acid-pitted steel coffer, a sturdy mithril box, an engraved tanik trunk, an iron-bound maoral strongbox, a plain haon chest, a scratched steel chest, an enruned silver trunk, an engraved silver trunk, a sturdy silver strongbox, a sturdy gold chest, a weathered modwir chest, a weathered haon coffer, a simple modwir trunk, a dented gold box, a rotting modwir trunk, a weathered modwir trunk, an engraved thanot chest, a simple haon box, an enruned tanik coffer, a corroded steel chest, an enruned gold trunk, an enruned modwir strongbox, a weathered wooden trunk, a badly damaged steel box, an engraved modwir coffer, a scratched maoral strongbox, a badly damaged modwir box, a badly damaged thanot strongbox, an enruned tanik chest, a simple thanot trunk and a bunch of other stuff.
Also here: Tsin, Chazym, Kerstar, Edaarin, Salvitin who is sitting, Zurrainn
Obvious paths: southeast, west
>
Chazym recites a series of mystical phrases while raising his hands...
>
Chazym gestures at Tsin.
Tsin begins moving faster than you thought possible.
>
Having found a trap on the strongbox, Edaarin begins to attempt to disarm it...

Edaarin nods with satisfaction.
>
The sense of peace and security passes away from the area.
>
Tsin pulls his ironwood mattock out of its troll-leg backsheath accompanied by a wet squishy sound.
>
Tsin concentrates deeply for a moment.
>
The brown wasp is awakened by Tsin's attack!
>
Tsin swings an enormous ironwood mattock at a brown wasp!
AS: +595 vs DS: +599 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +85 = +115
... and hits for 12 points of damage!
Stomach shot lands with a hollow *thump*.
>
A brown wasp launches itself back into the air!
>
Porcell just arrived.
>
Tsin swings an enormous ironwood mattock at a brown wasp!
The brown wasp moves at the last moment to evade the attack!
>
Tsin swings an enormous ironwood mattock at a brown wasp!
AS: +595 vs DS: +649 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +41 = +21
A clean miss.
>720 wasp
*** TypoHelp: Converted "720 wasp" to PREP 720 and CAST AT wasp

Tsin swings an enormous ironwood mattock at a brown wasp!
AS: +595 vs DS: +649 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +48 = +28
A clean miss.
>
You trace an intricate sign that contorts in the air while forcefully invoking Implosion...
Your spell is ready.
>
You gesture at a brown wasp.
A void rips open in the area, directly above a brown wasp!
Air blows past with no effect.

A brown wasp gasps for what little breath it can!
A brown wasp gasps for what little breath it can!
A brown wasp gasps for what little breath it can!
A brown wasp gasps for what little breath it can!
A brown wasp gasps for what little breath it can!
A brown wasp gasps for what little breath it can!
A brown wasp gasps for what little breath it can!
A brown wasp gasps for what little breath it can!
A brown wasp gasps for what little breath it can!
A brown wasp gasps for what little breath it can!
A brown wasp gasps for what little breath it can!
A brown wasp gasps for what little breath it can!
A brown wasp gasps for what little breath it can!
A brown wasp gasps for what little breath it can!
A brown wasp gasps for what little breath it can!
A brown wasp gasps for what little breath it can!
A brown wasp gasps for what little breath it can!
A brown wasp gasps for what little breath it can!
A brown wasp gasps for what little breath it can!
A brown wasp gasps for what little breath it can!
A brown wasp gasps for what little breath it can!
A brown wasp gasps for what little breath it can!
A brown wasp gasps for what little breath it can!
The brown wasp flutters its wings one last time and dies.
The brown wasp dies an abrupt death.
A number of items ranging from 1 to 25 feet from the void were picked up and sucked toward the blackness. The items did an accumulative damage of 531 as they caromed off a brown wasp. The void disappears without further incident.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>
Salvitin's spirit appears to be lifted by the singing.
Salvitin renews his songs.
>
Porcell says, "Oi."
>chat DID IT
You focus on transmitting your thought.
You feel at full magical power again.
>130
*** TypoHelp: Converted "130" to INCANT 130.

You gesture while calling upon the lesser spirits to aid you with the Spirit Guide spell...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture.
Your surroundings blur for a moment . . .

[Ta'Illistim, Shimmarglin Court]
The imposing facade of the Shimmarglin Inn dominates this corner of the court. Flanking the inn's doorposts and hanging above each glaesine-paned window, grinning gargoyles stand in stony defense of the lair within. A trickle of patrons flows through the inn's wide front doors, allowing a short-lived flood of light into the court with each swing of the doors. You also see a cloud jackal, an ironwork signpost and a floating dais.
Obvious paths: northeast, southwest, northwest
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>
Your disk arrives, following you dutifully.
>go dai
[Ta'Illistim, Hanging Gardens]
Although the floating platform is suspended well above the ground below, it overflows with abundant plant life. The edges of the dais are brimming with delicate white queen's lace, dark lavender, fragrant rosemary and a variety of other colorful flora. Thick grass underfoot provides an enticingly peaceful resting spot. A thin silk canopy is rolled back to permit an unobstructed view of the starry night sky. You also see the violet Bypin disk, the Nauriel disk, a long-tailed fruit bat that is flying around, the fiery red Stephivie disk, a gaunt bone-white raven that is flying around, the black Alex disk, an orange-eyed charcoal cat that is sleeping, a green tree frog that is sitting, the Kritz disk, an arctic wolf that is sitting, some cactacae spine, a glaesine arch, a richly finished wooden bench with some stuff on it and a large faenor-chased barrel.
Also here: Aerabeth who is sitting, Mirrur, Edarin who is sitting, Grizzliak, Brielus, Lady Nauriel, Zorgond who is sitting, Zeckorvat who is sitting, Great Lady Starlaz who is lying down, Kritz who is lying down
Obvious paths: out
>
You are overwhelmed by an intense wave of disorientation. An acidic bile taste hangs in the back of your throat, making it difficult to swallow. As you try to recover some semblance of balance, an intense series of spasms from deep in your bowels forces its entire contents to work its way up your throat. It takes every ounce of personal effort to keep yourself from the irresistible urge to vomit!
Roundtime: 44 sec.
KR>group close
Your group status is now closed.
KR>
Your disk arrives, following you dutifully.
KR>
You hear someone chanting an arcane phrase...
KR>
A gaunt bone-white raven swoops low overhead, crying out loudly.

KR>chat YOU OWE ME FUCKING MONEY@!!!!
You focus on transmitting your thought.
KR>
Suddenly you have the strangest feeling that you are being watched.
The feeling fades as quickly as it came.
KR>
Brielus cocks his head.
KR>
You hear someone calling upon the powers of the elements...
KR>
Zeckorvat stands up.
KR>
Brielus sits down.
KR>
You hear someone calling upon the powers of the elements...
KR>
Aerabeth murmurs a simple, mystical chant...
KR>'sanct please?
Aerabeth gestures.
Aerabeth's chest looks better.
KR>
Zeckorvat put a grey mossbark staff capped with a black six-tentacled star in his tooled staff sling.
KR>
A blanket of fog begins to fill the room. As it clears, Tsin is suddenly standing in front of you.
KR>
Zeckorvat pulls Zorgond to his feet.
KR>
Tsin tried to drag you, but your group status is closed. Type "GROUP OPEN" to permit yourself to be dragged.
KR>
You hear someone reciting a series of mystical phrases...
KR>
Vlatimire just arrived.
KR>
You recover somewhat from your nausea.
KR>
Edarin gestures while calling upon the lesser spirits for aid...
Edarin gestures.
Edarin suddenly looks a lot more powerful.
Edarin is surrounded by a white light.
KR>
Tsin glances at you.
KR>
You ask, "Sanct please?"
KR>
Vlatimire just went out.
KR>
Tsin whispers, "What the hell."
KR>
Edarin makes a quick gesture while calling upon the powers of the elements...
Edarin gestures.
A brilliant luminescence surrounds Edarin.
KR>
Edarin begins drawing a faint, twisting symbol as he utters an arcane invocation in hushed tones...
Edarin gestures.
A shadowy patch of ether rises up through the ground to encompass Edarin, swiftly sinking into his skin.
KR>
* Tyia just bit the dust!
KR>
Aerabeth murmurs a simple, mystical chant...
KR>
Aerabeth gestures.
Aerabeth's right leg looks better.
KR>
The fruit bat circles lazily above.
KR>
Nauriel fidgets with her gold and brass ring.
KR>
Edarin lies down.
KR>
Tsin whispers, "Why would you make an enemy for life?"
KR>
Nauriel narrows her eyes.
KR>
Nauriel sneers.
KR>
Mirrur strides away moving out.
KR>
A gaunt bone-white raven drifts in lazy circles overhead.

KR>
A gaunt bone-white raven suddenly releases an ear-piercing shriek!

K>
High Lady Cadiva just arrived.
K>whisper tsin bah, that's like an hour of work for ya
* Deschaiyn just bit the dust!
K>
You quietly whisper to Tsin, "Bah, that's like an hour of work for ya."
K>stand
K>
You stand back up.
>def
You are now in a defensive stance.
>
Tsin whispers, "Dude you are fuckin done."
>
Zorgond deftly removes the vultite katar from his baldric.
>
Zorgond deftly removes the mithril katar from his baldric.
>
With a mad look in his eyes, Zorgond swings his vultite katar and mithril katar wildly about, creating an unpredictable whirlwind of metal.
>whisper tsin and I got paid to do it
You quietly whisper to Tsin, "And I got paid to do it."
>chuckle
You chuckle.
>
Tsin whispers, "Everytime I see you anywhere near barrier you are dead."
>
Tsin whispers, "I don't give a shit."
>
Tsin concentrates intently on his ring.
>
Tsin concentrates intently on his ring.
>
Zeckorvat's group just went out.
>
Tsin rubs his ring and fog billows from it in a thick cloud, quickly obscuring his form from sight. As the murk clears, you see Tsin is no longer there.
>
A gaunt bone-white raven circles lazily in the air.

>
Starlaz just opened a rose-clasped snow white herb satchel.
>chat Tsin whispers, "Everytime I see you anywhere near barrier you are dead."
You focus on transmitting your thought.
>chat yep
You focus on transmitting your thought.
>
Brielus searches around for a moment.
>
Brielus grins.
>
Reshil just arrived.
>'I was just killing a wasp
The charcoal cat sleeps quietly.
>
You say, "I was just killing a wasp."
>mutter
You mutter something inaudible.

[Xaerve]

odear =\

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Nice bringing ooc to the game, and roleplaying the conflict.

[Soulpieced]

Probably not the smartest thing anybody could want to do.

[Jorddyn]

a plain wooden box, a simple monir coffer, an iron-bound modwir trunk, a scratched modwir trunk, an engraved modwir strongbox, an iron-bound tanik coffer, a dented gold trunk, a rotting modwir strongbox, a scratched brass trunk, an enruned haon trunk, a badly damaged maoral coffer, a corroded mithril strongbox, an enruned gold trunk, a plain gold trunk, an enruned thanot strongbox, a scratched modwir strongbox, a simple tanik strongbox, a badly damaged silver trunk, a plain modwir trunk, a corroded steel trunk, a scratched steel box, a simple thanot trunk, a dented gold coffer, a weathered thanot box, a badly damaged gold coffer, a battered iron box, a sturdy mithril strongbox, a rotting monir box, an engraved thanot box, a battered gold chest, a dented brass chest, a corroded mithril coffer, an engraved gold strongbox, a scratched fel coffer, a scratched maoral chest, an engraved wooden coffer, a badly damaged thanot box, an enruned monir trunk, a scratched thanot coffer, an acid-pitted gold box, a scratched maoral coffer, a sturdy tanik chest, a badly damaged monir coffer, an enruned brass box, an engraved thanot strongbox, a battered brass trunk, an engraved monir coffer, a rotting haon trunk, an engraved thanot box, an enruned mithril coffer, a sturdy thanot coffer, an iron-bound thanot trunk, an acid-pitted mithril box, an acid-pitted steel coffer, a sturdy mithril box, an engraved tanik trunk, an iron-bound maoral strongbox, a plain haon chest, a scratched steel chest, an enruned silver trunk, an engraved silver trunk, a sturdy silver strongbox, a sturdy gold chest, a weathered modwir chest, a weathered haon coffer, a simple modwir trunk, a dented gold box, a rotting modwir trunk, a weathered modwir trunk, an engraved thanot chest, a simple haon box, an enruned tanik coffer, a corroded steel chest, an enruned gold trunk, an enruned modwir strongbox, a weathered wooden trunk, a badly damaged steel box, an engraved modwir coffer, a scratched maoral strongbox, a badly damaged modwir box, a badly damaged thanot strongbox, an enruned tanik chest, a simple thanot trunk and a bunch of other stuff.

Fucking ridiculous, especially if other people are hunting in the area.

Jorddyn

[Stretch]

First, welcome back granny (Jorddyn).

Second, that was kind of a cheap shot at the player instead of the character. I'm with Bill on this one, way to bring OOC in.

[OoK]

Fucking ridiculous, especially if other people are hunting in the area. -Jorddyn

Yeah, because it's just SO horrible to see that when walking through the room.

-OoK

[Soulpieced]

That's a lot of experience Porcell is losing out on. 100+ boxes at figure 200 exp per?

[OoK]

I'd have just busted through them while fried anyway, so I really didn't lose anything. Was still a dick move.

-OoK

[bubbauno]

The part I don't understand is why would anyone risk inevitable confrontation and having to look over your shoulder for the rest of your life over such a small amount of money... I make 4 or 5 of those size piles a day and have lost thousands of of boxes in the past to GM bullshit or game crashes.. Why would anyone think that destroying 100 boxes would matter at all? How stupid do you have to be to make an enemy that hunts nonstop in the only hunting area available to you.. Hope it was worth it, cause i'll be sure to make you regret it.

[Makkah]

I think it was fucking awesome.

[Kuyuk]

If it doesnt matter at all, then why make me regret it?



K.

[Shari]

Okay. While it was fucked up, if I left that many boxes laying around, I'd expect someone to take them, or atleast try to.

And no, I'm not saying anything to the effect of, "Well Tsin has all this coin, what the fuck does it matter to him? He deserved it."

I'm not. But I'm not going to even count and there had to be what...60 boxes laying out there? You're begging for someone to screw with you. Why not fill up in disks, containers, etc and then open what you have, and then head back out? Because it encumbers you? Boo fucking hoo...perhaps things have changed but I recall it being frowned apon to camp your ass in one room and somehow scoop up all the loot one done. Then again I've been wrong before.

[Things2Come]

Like Raging Thrak says, anything on the ground is free to take.

Don't leave it on the ground if you don't want someone to take it.

Whoever did the implosion... just report Tsin for whatever he attempts to do to you. Especially if he kills you more than once.

[Jorddyn]

First, welcome back granny (Jorddyn).


Thanks. Now don't WARN me again or I'll have to hit you with my cane.

Jorddyn :)

(ok, I giggled)

[Jorddyn]

Yeah, because it's just SO horrible to see that when walking through the room.

-OoK

It has nothing to do with the screen scroll (which is obnoxious enough, but tolerable).

It has a lot to do with seriously depleting the critters and the treasure in an area.

I do understand that is not uncommon. I still think it's fucking ridiculous.

Jorddyn

[Shari]

Friends as in the 20 some-odd chars you have, or like....friends?

[bubbauno]

Woops...


You leap from hiding to attack!
You swing an enormous ironwood mattock at Reltov!
AS: +675 vs DS: +450 with AvD: +36 + d100 roll: +31 = +292
... and hit for 116 points of damage!
Mighty swing separates head from shoulders.

* Reltov drops dead at your feet!

The silvery luminescence fades from around Reltov.
A shadow seems to detach itself from Reltov's body, swiftly dissipating into the air.
The glowing specks of energy surrounding Reltov suddenly shoot off in all directions, then quickly fade away.
The tingling sensation and sense of security leaves Reltov.
The very powerful look leaves Reltov.
The white light leaves Reltov.
The powerful look leaves Reltov.
The air calms down around Reltov.
Reltov loses some awareness.
The brilliant luminescence fades from around Reltov.
Reltov glances around, looking a bit less confident.
The dull golden nimbus fades from around Reltov.
The bright luminescence fades from around Reltov.
The light blue glow leaves Reltov.
The deep blue glow leaves Reltov.
The guiding force leaves you.
Roundtime: 6 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.

[Jorddyn]

You won't know when it's coming.. It might not be today or tomorrow or even this week.. It will come when you think I forgot and you are safe.

In addition, anyone I see helping Reltov or Jamus whether it's rescues or assisting him with bounty tasks such as supplying gems will no longer get any help from myself or my friends.

It's a big friggin' sandbox. Luckily, you don't own or control all of it, no matter what you may think.

Jorddyn

[Kuyuk]

OMFG I didnt see that coming!!!!

[Stunseed]

To me, it comes down to this.

Kuyuk, I hope it was worth it for the hassle you may come across.

Tsin, if from no one else, you can deduct the loss from what you fucked Dhask over. Maybe if you weren't such a dick people wouldn't do moronic things to you.

Bringing OOC in game is bad, mmkay?

[Things2Come]

You sound like a little child who got beat up by the bully and is now instructing the nerd herd to hate the bully.

[Jolena]

Pretty much. How can you possibly say that anyone who helps someone else with spells or rescues them is on your 'blacklist' and not feel incredibly childish? There are many many people who don't know you or any of the BS you do Tsin. Blacklisting them when they know nothing about it is just ridiculous. But then again, you probably already know this.

[Artha]

I really hope you don't kill him every time you see him, it'd suck to get banned.

[HarmNone]

Ish. Listen to yourselves! Next thing we know, you're both going to be threatening to take your pails and shovels and go home! So there!

This is incredibly stupid.

[bubbauno]

Of course I'm not going to blacklist everyone that helps them.. only the people who know not to do it but go ahead and do it anyway. You might get away with it or you might not, the risk is yours.

[HarmNone]

:break:

This definitely didn't belong in Gemstone Gems, so I've moved it to General Gemstone. Carry on with the sandbox wars.

[Sean of the Thread]

Tsin whispers, "Everytime I see you anywhere near barrier you are dead."
>
Tsin whispers, "I don't give a shit."

HAHAHAHHAHA
HAHAHAHHAHA


AHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA


STFU.




The part I don't understand is why would anyone risk inevitable confrontation and having to look over your shoulder for the rest of your life over such a small amount of money... I make 4 or 5 of those size piles a day and have lost thousands of of boxes in the past to GM bullshit or game crashes.. Why would anyone think that destroying 100 boxes would matter at all? How stupid do you have to be to make an enemy that hunts nonstop in the only hunting area available to you.. Hope it was worth it, cause i'll be sure to make you regret it.

Stfu.. do you realize how fucking stupid that paragraph makes you look. You don't own the fucking room.. you're not the fucking GS police (empaths are) .. you're not shit above the law man.

Kill him for this... dare you.. certain GM's are already on your nutz for shit but you ALREADY KNOW THAT.. since you're A DOUBLE SECRET GAMEMASTER!!!
S... T....F....U... YOU GD NOOOBLES.

[Sean of the Thread]

Of course I'm not going to blacklist everyone that helps them.. only the people who know not to do it but go ahead and do it anyway. You might get away with it or you might not, the risk is yours.


seriously noobles... I'll log in EVERY FUCKING DAY.. and nuke that room and the ONLY RESULT will be you getting banned at the end of if you continue to retaliate.

If you want to play reindeer games.. there is plenty more than ONE that will oblige.

[TheEschaton]

Uhh, for all the shit people talk about Tsin, he and his folks tend to help anyone they come across behind the barrier whether stunned/prone/dead, including me on numerous occasions. So he's alright in my book, but then again, I don't know him all that well in game.

And as for depleting the treasure: hell, I usually walk out of OTF with 4 boxes, and that's a pretty poor hunt, IMO. Usually can get 6 easily. Tsin doesn't deplete the treasure in there at all, if I wanted, I could easily make silvers hand over fist ("if I wanted" means "if I could stay alive consistently"). Many (okay, not many, but some) people even leave their boxes in OTF because they don't want to be bothered by the encumberance.

-TheE-

[Stunseed]

If anything, you're inviting people that you aim to hinder a cause to gain support.

[Sean of the Thread]

From my point of view this last rant has really fucked him. People on the line are gonna make a decision.. and sucks for him that the people that count are not on side when it's said and done.

[Jolena]

It wasn't his anger of having his room poofed, I don't agree with someone bringing OOC into the game, so I understand his irritation. My issue is that he would have the gall to threaten to blacklist those that help Jamus and Reltov with spells, rescues or bounty tasks, simply because they know he doesn't like them.

[bubbauno]

You are right, that was a stupid thing to say.. I obviously can't get mad at everyone who helps them, it was a heat of the moment response.. Everyone keeps saying over and over there is NOTHING I can do to retaliate, because I would get banned if I kill them.. Seeing as he doesn't have a room full of boxes to implode, hindering the assistance he would get from other people seemed like the only possible consequence I could enforce. Many people have agreed not to rescue him or help him anymore to try and prove a point, but I won't "blacklist" the people who are just trying to help others.

[StrayRogue]

Plz grow up.

And yeah, anything on the ground is free for anyone to pick-up and take.

[Tsa`ah]

It's very hard to not take something in game.

Tsin has a nice and rich history of screwing people over. I really don't care if people have had nothing but good experiences with him ... the history is there. Very little of the events that happen in game are without influence from events that take place out of the game or via the grape vine in game.

Was it right that all of Tsin's farming was lost to an implosion? Strip away all the bullshit ... someone paid to do it for whatever reason, out of game influences, character/player history ... YOU FUCKING BET IT WAS.

Don't be a dumb ass and leave crap lying all over the ground. Take it to a table, pick in the field, use a cleric sanctuary ... whatever. Leaving it on the ground, especially for a product of a wet dream that got lucky with the aim, is asking for it.

[Alfster]

As I previously stated in another thread, it is incredibly funny that Tsin has no problem ripping other people off. However, the second someone screws up 1/5 of the boxes he gathers in a day...he cries and cries. Keep it coming folks!

[Kainen]

Seeing as he doesn't have a room full of boxes to implode, hindering the assistance he would get from other people seemed like the only possible consequence I could enforce. Many people have agreed not to rescue him or help him anymore to try and prove a point, but I won't "blacklist" the people who are just trying to help others.

Before I say anything else.. I have to say that taking shit in game drives me nuts and I don't think that was cool at all. What he did sucks AND you killed him for it. Having said that.. Exactly what can YOU blacklisting anyone do? I ,for one, have never asked for help from you and I dont think that most people need your help in game to get stuff done. As a matter of fact I helped you with a couple of gems. Not because you could do me a favor later, but because I had the gems and you needed em. I help Jamus with anything he needs, because he helps me. So there you go. Sorry Tsin, but for all the stuff and silvers you have, I think that you feel a bit more important than you are.

[Fallen]

What I dont understand is why do that in the barrier? You DO realize anything lost due to game mechanics is fair game right? If he finds any equipment of the people involved, he is in no way obligated to return it.

Though GMs are clear on eye for eye. You have 1 chance to retaliate in the form of a death. You got that death. Like you said, no harm done. Just a pile of boxes.

[Asha]

Why would anyone think that destroying 100 boxes would matter at all? How stupid do you have to be to make an enemy that hunts nonstop in the only hunting area available to you.. Hope it was worth it, cause i'll be sure to make you regret it.
You dumb, contradicting fuck. It matters enough for you to go postal over it.
Also you're the one who's got more to lose and he's gonna be able to find you where you always sit with your fucking pile of boxes.
One cast of implosion and Tsin if not all of your corp are dead.
Who's going to be looking over who's shoulder?

[Lucas]

Is Tsin a wizard? And how many characters does the Tsin army consist of and do they all get on at the same time?

[Gan]

I hate bandwagoning, and that is exactly what blacklisting is... getting people to jump on a bandwagon for a cause they particularly are not directly involved in.

With that said, I will continue to help those who ask me for help and have not screwed me in the past.

Just for matter of opinion, I dont necessarily think that the action of imploding the wasp was OOC; however, I do think the motivation behind it was. Reltov walked a fine line, which by interpretation a GM would not rule against. And as retribution, Tsin got his allowed kill. The matter should stop here until Reltov does something again, then the balance will need correcting.

As Tsin later corrected, the blacklisting comment was over the top and said out of anger. Although I imagine that his efforts will barely notice the loss considering what I see in the .5 seconds I spend walking through his camp, screen scroll or no.

My only issue with his camping there with the boxes is if it causes any resource drag on the game. OTF generates tons of treasure by nature of the risk of hunting there, so I dont see his actions depleting any treasure opportunity I might have while inside. Well, that and the inconveinence of running to a room full of odd creatures invading Tsin's camp, as sent by a GM, and getting smoked by some insane AS from 30+ attackers at once. :(

[Kuyuk]

I dont think it's a big deal.


If Tsin needs gems and I have them, I'd probably trade them to him.


It's just a game, and I dont think it was anything to lose much thought over.


K.

[StrayRogue]

My only issue with his camping there with the boxes is if it causes any resource drag on the game. OTF generates tons of treasure by nature of the risk of hunting there, so I dont see his actions depleting any treasure opportunity I might have while inside. Well, that and the inconveinence of running to a room full of odd creatures invading Tsin's camp, as sent by a GM, and getting smoked by some insane AS from 30+ attackers at once. :(

You should hunt OTF when he logs off. Impossible I know, but lucrative.

[Snapp]

I agree that it was pretty OOC to implode all his boxes like that, but this whole thread gives me the giggles.

[thornhappy]

Heh.

It's like "Mobsters: Gemstone".. Ya mess wit' mah crew.. yer goin' down, boy..

Hysterical. Infantile, on both sides, but hysterical.

[Gan]

You should hunt OTF when he logs off. Impossible I know, but lucrative.

You mean he logs off? WTF?

[Wezas]

You mean he logs off? WTF?

He mentioned server crashes, I assume that's what is meant.

Binging OOC in game is a no-no, but Tsin is way overreacting. Your shit was on the ground (like it is every day, I know there's multiple threads showing this). On the ground is fair game.

Also, maybe if you actually killed the bug instead of swinging at it like a pansy he wouldn't have had anything to implode.

[Tea & Strumpets]

Nice bringing ooc to the game, and roleplaying the conflict.

Paaaalease. Tsin wouldn't know roleplay if it bit him on the ass. Even when he "got his revenge" the fucking pussy is using another character to haste him (like he does anytime he gets into a conflict, MA's his ass off).

I thought it was funny. I've thought about logging in and just beating the everliving fuck out of all his characters repeatedly, but it's that whole OOC thing holding me back.

[Caede]

I guess I'm not sure why people are getting upset about 'bringing OOC into the game' in this instance.

Was Reltov's imploding a wasp and 'accidentily' sucking up all the boxes as part of a wager on Psinet-OOC any more OOC than Tsin farming OTF day after day with his cadre of MA slaves for out-of-game gain? You act like Tsin is totally IC in his box-farming operation and this was a blatant drop from that, bringing OOC into the game. I'm not even saying anything is wrong with Tsin -- if I had his resources, I'm sure I'd be doing the same thing, and probably not being nearly as helpful to the others at the barrier.

Either way, Tsin got his revenge and this should be over. It's a friggin' game.

[TheEschaton]

I've hunted OTF when Tsin wasn't logged on.* And whoever said it was right: amazing. I think I made about 500k in an hour without even trying.


*This was like at 4 am on a Tuesday. Frankly, I wonder how Tsin supports himself IRL with the amount of time he's logged in.

-TheE-

[thornhappy]

.... He supports himself by being logged in with numerous capped characters and box farming, of course. etc.

[Skeeter]

I've hunted OTF when Tsin wasn't logged on.* And whoever said it was right: amazing. I think I made about 500k in an hour without even trying.


*This was like at 4 am on a Tuesday. Frankly, I wonder how Tsin supports himself IRL with the amount of time he's logged in.

-TheE-


you made 500k an hour by yourself. I think you just answered your own question.

[Lassiter 506]

To Reltov:

A job well done. I salute you.

To Tsin:

Haha. As you said to Dhask's player, who you blatantly ripped off - stop being a whiney fucking baby and grow up. I hope that you continue to try and kill Reltov, and look forward to you getting banned. It will be one of the finer moments of GS.

[Tima and Again]

Here are my thoughts on this matter...

Reltov was talking about it on OOC before he did it...

Wasps are VERY rare...

The wasps were released very early, either the first or second box...

Reltov stated he didnt want to implode anyone, and would not have done it if not for the wasps...

How many people have stated that certain GM's already target Tsin?

think about it...

Was Reltov really guilty? or just a victim of opportunity...

[Numbers]

Honestly, if I had a character that was able to survive attacks from Tsin and his army of drones, I'd probably implode or take those boxes any chance I'd get.

Stuff on the ground is fair game. Always has been, always will be. Of course, there's the obvious niceness and respect you must show if you know who that stuff belongs to. And while I do respect Tsin's ability to make lots of silvers (regardless of the cheating and OOC methods he uses), I hardly respect him as a person. And frankly, the sheer arrogance and cockiness of thinking that he owns that room and that anybody daring to take or destroy a box from that room is absolutely absurd. If the GM's have actually gone out of their way to remove those boxes in the past, you should know better by now.

Get a table like everybody else, and you'll never have this problem again.

[Back]

A moderator needs to rename this thread “The E-peen Monologues.”

[Methais]

You people talk about this OOC crap as if people still RP or the GMs really give a shit about it.

[StrayRogue]

Um, you must have been playing shitty graphical's too long. There is RP in GS.

[Methais]

Lies.

[Stanley Burrell]

YOU KILLED EDAARIN! :'(

Also, Kuyuk = Reltov!? :wtf:

Doesn't that also imply that Kuyuk is the awesome retardedness behind Candor? (Yes/no?)

That was pretty shitty to bring some OOG crap IG, but on the same token, I haven't seen that amount of collective damage being dealt since the days of GSIII, which is kind of cool, maybe?

[Kuyuk]

Kuyuk =/= Candor


But candor is pretty funny.


K.

[Wezas]

Kuyuk =/= Candor

But candor is pretty funny.


Which should have been your first clue it wasn't Kuyuk.

[Skirmisher]

...

Exactly what can YOU blacklisting anyone do? I ,for one, have never asked for help from you and I dont think that most people need your help in game to get stuff done. As a matter of fact I helped you with a couple of gems. Not because you could do me a favor later, but because I had the gems and you needed em. I help Jamus with anything he needs, because he helps me. So there you go. Sorry Tsin, but for all the stuff and silvers you have, I think that you feel a bit more important than you are.

A bit?

[Kainen]

A bit?

I was trying not to be mean :D

[Stanley Burrell]

Which should have been your first clue it wasn't Kuyuk.

Fuck.

I always thought he was.

:offtopic:

[Rainy Day]

Tsin's a dick. I liked the poofing boxes.

RD

[crb]

What I dont understand is why do that in the barrier? You DO realize anything lost due to game mechanics is fair game right? If he finds any equipment of the people involved, he is in no way obligated to return it.

Exactly. When you die in there or lose something you only have a handful of people who'll be helping you, you might do better not to piss any one of them off.

When I heard his box room was imploded I was picturing an open void. The truth is much less interesting.

[Kuyuk]

Only hunt with 4x stuff, saves a lot of trouble.

I 'lost" my shield after the tsin incident, and one of the people he hangs out with had it, it didnt really bother me if he kept it, while I waited to see if he was gonna give it back, I just picked up another one from the critters in OTF.

I can hunt with 0x stuff in OTF, and I'm too cheap [poor] to buy anything above 4x anyway.



K.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

Considering the GMs do stuff to poof rooms of boxes such as this, I don't think it's bad at all that a player would do it as well.. especially given that anything on the ground is fair game, and for that matter, even things in your inventory that aren't properly guarded are fair game. (i.e. silvers, gems in containers, etc)

[Wezas]

for that matter, even things in your inventory that aren't properly guarded are fair game. (i.e. silvers, gems in containers, etc)

I wouldn't really equate them the same. You have alot more basis to kill someone if they actually reach in your pockets rather than picking up/destroying things on the ground.

[Skirmisher]

Anyone who openly admits to have claimed to be GM when not one just to steal more coins from some poor schmuck should really shut up and stop whining all the while saying how they arent whining.

[Parkbandit]

God, I am so glad I no longer play that game. Too many drama queens for my taste.

[Wezas]

God, I am so glad I no longer play that game. Too many drama queens for my taste.

You saying there's never been guild/raid drama?

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

I wouldn't really equate them the same. You have alot more basis to kill someone if they actually reach in your pockets rather than picking up/destroying things on the ground.

True, but still, even then you can't really accuse the person who pickpockets your character of cheating you, because it's your own fault and "fair game" even if it definitely warrants more of a killing reaction.

[Asha]

You saying there's never been guild/raid drama?
The raided funeral made me laugh rather hard.
The ensuing drama across the boards and the net was awe inspiring.

[Artha]

You saying there's never been guild/raid drama?
"Your girlfriend's a controlling bitch who's tearing the guild apart"
"Oh, guess we'd better leave."
"Oh no, our formerly useful guild is gutted :( Time to play some alts."

vs.

"Hey, I bet I could implode all these boxes."
"I'm going to kill you when you least expect it and if anyone helps you, they'll be blacklisted. Why would you ever do this knowingly?"

They're a little different.

[StrayRogue]

Sorry, but saying there are less idiots or less stupid activities done in WoW is just stupid (of course its the typical blindfacd protective logic I've come to expect from you Artha). Shit like Leeroy (despite being faked), ninja looters, noobs who roll and win items they shouldn't, chinese farmers, pugs who agg EVERYTHING are more common in WoW than their equivilent in GS.

[Some Rogue]

When you have 6 million+ subscribers, yeah you hear of it happening more often. I'd bet percentage wise they're pretty close though.

[StrayRogue]

Every day logged into WoW I saw an idiot of some description. Whether or not I had any interaction with them is another story.

This is not the case, for me, in GS.

[Artha]

(of course its the typical blindfacd protective logic I've come to expect from you Artha)
lol. I've been awake for about a full day, my sense of humor's a little off. Sry. And also I didn't say that, and I'm pretty sure I didn't even imply that.

[Lucas]

To be perfectly fair, Tsin makes his living off these text boxes literally. He spends all day farming boxes and selling the loot. What is it? 500k an hour so 12 hours a day 6 mil x 15 bucks. Thats 90 $ a day. That comes to $32850 a year and then you couple that with WoW (which you're running in the background or on another computer). Then you're pushing 60k a year. Thats a lot of money. So when you implode a room full of boxes, to Tsin it's like you putting your hand into his pockets and taking out a fist full of cash. Of course to the normal 99% of us, it's just text based nonesense.

[StrayRogue]

There isn't as much money in WoW, unless you're a dedicated Chinese farmer or a cheat.

[Gan]

The simplest solution would be to get a table.

First off, I think that the extra attention that Tsin gets off of scenarios like this help him in the long run WAY more than it hurts him.

Yes he farms boxes, yes he uses multiple characters to do so, yes he employs others to help him in this endeavor. Big Deal.

Was it stupid of him to have the reaction he did to the implosion? Sure, even he admitted that he over reacted to it.

Was it really a suprise to anyone familiar with Tsin? Not really.

Is he violating game mechanics? No.

He could lay low at a table with this operation, use the helpful feature of CLEAN TABLE to get rid of the empty boxes, and not suffer the indulgences of those who seek him out for his actions, and not suffer the odd things that the GM's throw his way.

But then he would not get the play he does, which in marketing circles, means if people arent thinking about you, then they arent buying from you.

[Tea & Strumpets]

To be perfectly fair, Tsin makes his living off these text boxes literally. He spends all day farming boxes and selling the loot. What is it? 500k an hour so 12 hours a day 6 mil x 15 bucks. Thats 90 $ a day. That comes to $32850 a year and then you couple that with WoW (which you're running in the background or on another computer). Then you're pushing 60k a year. Thats a lot of money. So when you implode a room full of boxes, to Tsin it's like you putting your hand into his pockets and taking out a fist full of cash. Of course to the normal 99% of us, it's just text based nonesense.

Yeah, I'm sure he's making a lucrative living... I'd actually be surprised if he's made any profit. He's not that bright, and he's spent tons of cash buying items/silver/characters.

[Back]

To be perfectly fair, Tsin makes his living off these text boxes literally. He spends all day farming boxes and selling the loot. What is it? 500k an hour so 12 hours a day 6 mil x 15 bucks. Thats 90 $ a day. That comes to $32850 a year and then you couple that with WoW (which you're running in the background or on another computer). Then you're pushing 60k a year. Thats a lot of money. So when you implode a room full of boxes, to Tsin it's like you putting your hand into his pockets and taking out a fist full of cash. Of course to the normal 99% of us, it's just text based nonesense.

For a lousy $32k a year he'd have to work 12 hours, 24/7/365, and on top of that sell 6mil a day at $15 a mil.

We’ve gone over the feasibility of making a living playing GS and its just not plausible.

[Artha]

There isn't as much money in WoW, unless you're a dedicated Chinese farmer or a cheat.
Yep. And you can't really run it in the background because there's no natural rest time like their is in GS. You could maybe use something like Glide, but I'm pretty sure you can't do other stuff while it's running because it takes over the mouse and keyboard.

[StrayRogue]

For a lousy $32k a year he'd have to work 12 hours, 24/7/365, and on top of that sell 6mil a day at $15 a mil.

We’ve gone over the feasibility of making a living playing GS and its just not plausible.

Heh, Ciston made around 100k from GS in 2001.

[Sean of the Thread]

To be perfectly fair, Tsin makes his living off these text boxes literally. He spends all day farming boxes and selling the loot. What is it? 500k an hour so 12 hours a day 6 mil x 15 bucks. Thats 90 $ a day. That comes to $32850 a year and then you couple that with WoW (which you're running in the background or on another computer). Then you're pushing 60k a year. Thats a lot of money. So when you implode a room full of boxes, to Tsin it's like you putting your hand into his pockets and taking out a fist full of cash. Of course to the normal 99% of us, it's just text based nonesense.


Boo fucking hoo.

[Shari]

To be perfectly fair, Tsin makes his living off these text boxes literally. He spends all day farming boxes and selling the loot. What is it? 500k an hour so 12 hours a day 6 mil x 15 bucks. Thats 90 $ a day. That comes to $32850 a year and then you couple that with WoW (which you're running in the background or on another computer). Then you're pushing 60k a year. Thats a lot of money. So when you implode a room full of boxes, to Tsin it's like you putting your hand into his pockets and taking out a fist full of cash. Of course to the normal 99% of us, it's just text based nonesense.



Yeah, but see...the money in my pockets I gain legally. It is against game policy to sell in-game silvers for real money but people do it anyway. Its like someone balking when someone steals money they gained by selling drugs.

[TheEschaton]

Yeah, but see...the money in my pockets I gain legally. It is against game policy to sell in-game silvers for real money but people do it anyway. Its like someone balking when someone steals money they gained by selling drugs.

Ummmm...no it's not?

Because if it is, then there are many more people than Tsin guilty.

-TheE-

[Drew]

To be perfectly fair, Tsin makes his living off these text boxes literally. He spends all day farming boxes and selling the loot. What is it? 500k an hour so 12 hours a day 6 mil x 15 bucks. Thats 90 $ a day. That comes to $32850 a year and then you couple that with WoW (which you're running in the background or on another computer). Then you're pushing 60k a year. Thats a lot of money. So when you implode a room full of boxes, to Tsin it's like you putting your hand into his pockets and taking out a fist full of cash. Of course to the normal 99% of us, it's just text based nonesense.


Sounds like a tax nightmare.

[Boris]

Wonder if Tsin paid taxes on that 150k...hmm.......hmmm.........hmm.....

[Sean of the Thread]

HIGHLY doubt it.

[bubbauno]

I would probably be considered a rookie compared to people in Everquest who make millions..

[TheEschaton]

People still play Everquest?

[Landrion]

People still play Everquest?

http://mmogchart.com/

Probably about 370k for EQ2 and EQ1. Quite a loss from their peak of 550,000. Still, almost double City of Heroes which isnt a bad MMOG. OTOH quite a lot compared to Gemstone (so small they are intentionally not listed).

[Jorddyn]

Wonder if Tsin paid taxes on that 150k...hmm.......hmmm.........hmm.....

I dunno, but you realize if you report someone, you can get up to 10% of what they wind up owing.

The more you know.

Jorddyn, ever so helpful

[Oniros]

The self employment tax alone on $50,000 a year PROFIT is $7,650. That doesn't even factor in the income tax. Which if you had no other source of income and lived in California would be 50,000 less standard deduction of $5,000 for 2005 less $3,200 for the exemption (which being a full-time student and under 24 your parents probably claim) and 1/2 of your SE tax or $3,825 leaves you with around $42,000 to $38,000 of taxable income. Apply the single rates to that and you are looking at $6,665 of tax plus the SE tax. So your federal tax bill for that $50,000 a year profit is roughly $14,315. That does not even factor in probably another $2,000 per year if you live in California.

Lets see approx $15,000 a year for three years. You probably owe about $45,000 in back taxes right now.

I made lots of assumptions but that is pretty close.

The only good thing is that none of this gets reported to the IRS...but that doesn't mean your still not responsible to report it and to pay tax on it.

[Jorddyn]

The self employment tax alone on $50,000 a year PROFIT is $6,200. That doesn't even factor in the income tax. Which if you had no other source of income and lived in California would be 50,000 less standard deduction of $5,000 for 2005 less $3,200 for the exemption (which being a full-time student and under 24 your parents probably claim) and 1/2 of your SE tax or $3,100 leaves you with around $41,900 to $38,700 of taxable income. Apply the single rates to that and you are looking at $6,665 of tax plus the SE tax. So your federal tax bill for that $50,000 a year profit is roughly $12,865. That does not even factor in probably another $2,000 per year if you live and California.

Lets see approx $15,000 a year for three years. You probably owe about $45,000 in back taxes right now.

I made lots of assumptions but that is pretty close.

The only good thing is that none of this gets reported to the IRS...but that doesn't mean your still not responsible to report it and to pay tax on it.


You forgot failure to report/failure to pay penalties.

Jorddyn

[Oniros]

Just doing a quick and dirty ball park estimation...

It is still never a good idea to talk business in public. Especially if you are guilty of tax evasion and people might know enough information and might dislike you enough to use it. Discretion, always use descretion. I don't know you and I wouldn't be the one to report you. I am just offering advice.

[LazyBard]

well since he lives in a state not too far north of California the estimate is a little off but not by much. But your right definitly not good to talk business in a open fourm. Specially when there are people such as myself collect on outstanding debt for a living. Not that I am at all concerned about what Tsin does.

[Wezas]

Well that's not entirely accurate, because it IS possible for a select few to make a living and more.. I've made around 150k PROFIT in the past 3 years from GS.. I just graduated college 2 months ago so my living expenses are maybe 20k a year.. During the last sale that just ended recently, I moved about 3 billion worth of items through my hands in just under two weeks.. Made over 10k profit during just that small period of time..

Just in case there's some kind of server glitch and that post gets deleted.

That's me, always thinking ahead.

[TheEschaton]

I dunno, but you realize if you report someone, you can get up to 10% of what they wind up owing.

But then you have to live with being a fucking snitch.

-TheE-

[bubbauno]

Yeah well too bad it's almost all gone now.. College cost over 200 grand..

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

But then you have to live with being a fucking snitch.

-TheE-

The only people I'd never snitch on is my own family.. unless I knew for a fact that they'd hurt somebody else and it would be good for them in the long run to turn themselves in. Beyond that, if the money is good enough and I think what the person did was wrong, I'd snitch in a second.

I don't particularly like how Tsin goes about his business, nor do I like the money-cheating ways.. so, I do everything in my power to avoid buying stuff from Tsin, and have deterred friends from doing so. While I don't think I'd tell the IRS unless he personally did something to piss me off, it would give me a good hour of laughs to find out he HAD been reported. Editted to add that I'd laugh to find out ANYONE had been reported for money farming off of a game and not taxing the money and getting turned in.

[FinisWolf]

Damn, what college Tsin?

Mine ran 75K for 2 years at JC then 4 years at a CSU for two majors.

Finis

[FinisWolf]

But then you have to live with being a fucking snitch.

-TheE-

This bears repeating.

Finis

[HarmNone]

Yeah well too bad it's almost all gone now.. College cost over 200 grand..

I don't really think the IRS would care one way or the other. If you owe them money, and they learn of it, they'll hound you to the ends of the earth to retrieve it. There is no escaping the IRS once they get wind of unpaid taxes. You'd have been much better off, Tsin, to just keep your mouth shut about all this. Now, you need to hope you haven't made an enemy who knows who you are and where you live.

[TheEschaton]

4 years of undergrad cost about 150k for me. So if you tack on an extra year, it can easily approach 200k.

-TheE-

[bubbauno]

Damn, what college Tsin?

Mine ran 75K for 2 years at JC then 4 years at a CSU for two majors.

Finis

University of Washington... Out of state tuition.. 30k a year.. 5 years to finish double degrees in astronomy and physics.. It adds up... I'm actually still in debt to UW. Hah

[Skirmisher]

Yeah well too bad it's almost all gone now.. College cost over 200 grand..
All that money and they couldnt put a little of it towards teaching you to be a little less of an arrogant jerk huh?

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

University of Washington... Out of state tuition.. 30k a year.. 5 years to finish double degrees in astronomy and physics.. It adds up... I'm actually still in debt to UW. Hah

I turned down the UW, but after seeing Myspaces with all of my old classmates getting drunk every Thursday night, I'm not sad about the decision at all, heh.

[bubbauno]

What's wrong with people getting drunk on a weekday?

[Oniros]

Tsin is in luck. There is no state income tax in Washington. But you still owe money to the IRS if they ever find out.

[Jorddyn]

But then you have to live with being a fucking snitch.

-TheE-

Eh. Someone reports a crime. Someone else reports it. Happens every day. Also, up until two years ago when I bought my house, I paid the highest taxes of anyone who made the money I did - single, no kids, no deductions, all employement income - so I have little sympathy for people who don't pay their taxes.

That's not to say I have any plans on reporting anyone - I don't.

Jorddyn

[bubbauno]

All that money and they couldnt put a little of it towards teaching you to be a little less of an arrogant jerk huh?

Do you really expect someone with the most fame, experience and close to the richest character in the game to be modest? I may roleplay being an arrogant jerk because of my status, but most of my friends know that it's all an act and i'm in fact a very generous person.

[HarmNone]

I hate to have to break it to you, Tsin, but these boards are not the game, and what's being said here is not being said by your character. You've come off, at times, like an arrogant jerk here. That pretty much negates any claim that the "arrogant jerk" behaviors are confined to your GS character.

I don't know you. I have nothing against you. I neither like or dislike you. I'm just pointing out something that should be pretty obvious. Whether you say what you say in anger, or whether what you say is later retracted, the fact is you said it, and it sounded pretty damned arrogant. I think that may be where the appearance of arrogance is originating, eh?

[Skirmisher]

Do you really expect someone with the most fame, experience and close to the richest character in the game to be modest? I may roleplay being an arrogant jerk because of my status, but most of my friends know that it's all an act and i'm in fact a very generous person.
You roleplay while posting here?

[TheEschaton]

All that money and they couldnt put a little of it towards teaching you to be a little less of an arrogant jerk huh?

Actually, college taught me how to be a more arrogant jerk. ;)

-TheE-

[LazyBard]

College taught me greek row on basicly any given night was a party. Also that what doctors say is a blood alcohol level to kill most humans is often times a normal night for many college students. Of course I graduated about 7 years ago so I have no idea how greek row is now.

[Kuyuk]

My thread got derailed..off-topic'd..and then derailed from the off-topic...I love it! :)


My most popular thread. Continue!


K.

[Gan]

Its called evolution.

Expecting a thread about Tsin to remain completely on topic would be nothing short of a 'miracle'.

[Merzbow]

The most friggen amazing thing to me is that people are actually willing to pay the equivalent of figures like $1500 for an item in a game. Why not take the money and have an orgy with five beautful Mexican whores in Tijuana for a solid weekend?

[Back]

The most friggen amazing thing to me is that people are actually willing to pay the equivalent of figures like $1500 for an item in a game. Why not take the money and have an orgy with five beautful Mexican whores in Tijuana for a solid weekend?

AIDS and other less fatal STDs?

[Olanan]

People expect other people to report their income to the IRS, so they can lose money.

That's funny in the funny way that it's probably never going to happen.

[Lucas]

close to the richest character

-Tsin

Then who is the richest character in the game? Hmm, and becareful on how you define rich, I'm talking about the most silvers a character was ever in possession with not who is rich in absolute terms as of this moment.

[Lucas]

Also a complaint, I can't stand those bleeding merchant whores who constantly enthrall you by saying..."I'm RPing a merchant!" Good god man NO YOU ARE NOT You are RPing an ass who is going to take all that silver and sell it for cash to feed your damn coke habit. Just please STFU, I don't care if you sell shit to idiots for real cash, what I can't stand is this inane fucking attempt to cover all this shit up and justify it all.Just stop pretending and do your shit in the open...damn pansies.

[bubbauno]

I had 1.2 billion all silvers a week ago after the auction.. not sure if that is the most ever, but it is probably damn close.

[Hulkein]

Just read this thread and I must say, that's fucking hysterical.

[Hulkein]

It's not worth the money.. If I don't make an example out of him other people will try and do it..

I'll repeat myself again.. anyone I see helping Reltov or Jamus with spells, rescues or even gems for bounty tasks will get any help again. Along with informing as many people as humanly possible not to help you or them ever again.

If you're still playing the game in a few years when I have money, I'm buying a character for the sole purpose of helping people you don't like.

[Gan]

In a few years, I'll have a few capped I'll be ready to sell you. ;)

[Back]

Well that's not entirely accurate, because it IS possible for a select few to make a living and more.. I've made around 150k PROFIT in the past 3 years from GS.. I just graduated college 2 months ago so my living expenses are maybe 20k a year.. During the last sale that just ended recently, I moved about 3 billion worth of items through my hands in just under two weeks.. Made over 10k profit during just that small period of time..Just in case there's some kind of server glitch and that post gets deleted.

That's me, always thinking ahead.

Weezy on point. To respond...

Before I lay down my doubts let me say first that we only have your word on this. There is no way that we could check records for any of this stuff. No doubt the people who run GS can track silver transfers between characters/accounts and have the real numbers.

So there are a few things that leads me to believe otherwise, just based on common sense. Of course, these are just my opinions and those are just that, my opinions.

I’ve been on-line since... holy hell, '95. Been playing games since '97. I know the on-line community through trial and error for over 10 years. Over that time I’ve developed a “bullshit” filter. What I will say at this point is that people give out more bullshit than truth about themselves on-line. Even moreso than reality.

I’ve read the famous Ciston article in which he claims he made $100k in one year. And thats just it, he claims. There was no real fact checking on it. While at the time I was awed, like everyone else, I have now come to question that claim. I’ve even considered contacting Snopes about it. Bear with me, there is a reason for this.

If it were actually possible to clear $100k a year playing GS, why aren’t there more people doing it for a living? If we say .5% of the GS population of an estimate of 500 is savvy enough to clear that, then you could be right. But wouldn’t a mere .5% of people pumping that much silver into the game wreck the exchange rate? Imagine if it were 1%? Or 5%?

In another post you called yourself small-change or something to that effect compared to EQ. I believe that because of the player base of 550k as someone mentioned. .5% of that base must be clearing hundreds of thousands, if not close to a mil a year, by your standards.

Another reason why I doubt this is that if the people behind GS saw players making that much real life money that they could be getting, they would take steps to manage that. And my guess is, they are way ahead of the curve.

Hopefully Ganalon has more thoughts on this. He is the Economic Major.

[Gan]

I'm guessing the exaggeration factor is about x10.

3 billion or 3,000 million is an awful lot of silvers to move in raw form, and would have definately been felt in the gaming community with regards to high end merchandise that still remains on the racks in playershops, that should have/would have been purchased.

I have to side with Backlash's skepticism on this point.

[Back]

Credit to Weezy for quoting. lol

[Gan]

Nothing like adding more information to the mix in case someone does decide to connect the dots and report him to a friend in the IRS.

I wonder if Paypal can be compelled to give up transaction records on its members.

Where there's money, there's always a trail they say.

Perhaps the next vacation you take, Tsin, using all the riches you make from Gemstone/Simutronics, you might consider making it to a country with no extradition treaty to the US.

:whistle:

[Methais]

The most friggen amazing thing to me is that people are actually willing to pay the equivalent of figures like $1500 for an item in a game. Why not take the money and have an orgy with five beautful Mexican whores in Tijuana for a solid weekend?

Because for some people, e-peen > real peen.

[StrayRogue]

I had 1.2 billion all silvers a week ago after the auction.. not sure if that is the most ever, but it is probably damn close.

No, not even close.

I can think of three items alone that cost as much. All were owned at one point by a single person.

And yeah, LOL at your "roleplaying" remarks.

[StrayRogue]

Oh, and four years of University cost me about £13k. Thats what, $26 grand now in US dollars?

[Tsa`ah]

I wonder if Paypal can be compelled to give up transaction records on its members.

Yes. There is enough history of court orders and warrants in their short time of existence to say "without a doubt". That's not even including the fact that they are regulated by federal consumer agencies and the FDIC.

[Ardwen]

Sheesh I cant decide what to laugh at more in this thread.

From an inside point of view the Ciston article in the times is close enough to accurate to be correct in my book, and that was not his best year. Having helped sort and test many of the items he bought and sold for half a decade or so, its very easy to see him selling 10-15 billion silver in items and coins in that time. Having helped friends liquidate in the past Tsin's assertions of a billion in sales in 2 weeks or whatever are not unlikely, I brokered 12 grand in sales in a 2 day period last winter. If you are the only or one of the few sources of certain items you can easily make decent money in GS..

However what does all this have to do with people acting like children and voiding someones boxes?

Ardwen

[Parkbandit]

Hey, I would rather Tsin get paid by people playing Gemstone than for me having to support him via government handouts.

[Sean of the Thread]

Oh, and four years of University cost me about £13k. Thats what, $26 grand now in US dollars?

Damn that's a pretty good price.

[Sean of the Thread]

I’ve even considered contacting Snopes about it


Rofl.

[Skirmisher]

Sheesh I cant decide what to laugh at more in this thread.

...

However what does all this have to do with people acting like children and voiding someones boxes?

Ardwen

The thread evolved there after Tsin had a hissy fit all the while saying how losing such a paltry amount didn't bother him.

That led to discussion of both his behavior and his financial status.

This update brought to you by the letter "S".

[Hulkein]

Oh, and four years of University cost me about £13k. Thats what, $26 grand now in US dollars?

24.6k USD.

[TheEschaton]

Yeah, my British friend was telling me about the ridiculous price of UK universities, and then complaining that it WENT UP this past year, to something like 2,000 pounds per year.

He is an Arsenal fan, so you can forgive him his moments of idiocy though.

-TheE-

[Danical]

University of Washington... Out of state tuition.. 30k a year.. 5 years to finish double degrees in astronomy and physics.. It adds up... I'm actually still in debt to UW. Hah

Yeah well too bad it's almost all gone now.. College cost over 200 grand..

5 * 30 = 150 . . . ?

Why didn't you just get residency first, or get it after the first year you were there saving you . . . roughly 134 billion dollars?

How is it that you could graduate college in two relatively intensive majors while playing gemstone, smoking and getting drunk on a near constant basis?

Something just isn't adding up.

[Parkbandit]

5 * 30 = 150 . . . ?

Why didn't you just get residency first, or get it after the first year you were there saving you . . . roughly 134 billion dollars?

How is it that you could graduate college in two relatively intensive majors while playing gemstone, smoking and getting drunk on a near constant basis?

Something just isn't adding up.

When I went to college, all those years ago.. they had things call scholarships, grants and other free tuition assistance. I didn't know very many people who paid the 'regular' price.. and if they did they were too dumb to be in college anyway.

[Wezas]

Weezy on point. To respond...


Gotta hate those server glitches. I'm sure he was just trying to edit the post to correct the numbers when he accidentally hit "delete".

[AestheticDeath]

Backlash you might wanna call a plumber, sounds like your bullshit filter got clogged.

Obviously some of you never got into the GS Sales. Since you haven't been in them, please refrain from stating opinions about it like you actually KNOW something.

Ardwen can correct me if I am wrong, but in Cistons case, I am pretty sure he didn't buy or own everything he sold. He just made comission on things.

As far as the 3billion Ganalon mentioned, where did that come from? The value of the items? Tsin said he only had about 1.2b in coins. Most of the items he had for sale were partial trades or something of that sort. You notice he kept updating with more items? Also he deals in CASH. Some people most likely jumped on the rare items with a few bucks they just had lying around. As far as the player shops, most of that junk is overpriced. And half the overpriced stuff I see doesn't list what it actually is. So unless you been around long enough to just know what it is. Why would anyone go spend 50m+ on something with no stats or guarantee?

You have to have money to make money in most cases. Gemstone is one of those things. You either need to have invested alot of time or money in order to get anything out of it. And time equals money in more ways than one.

Many of you hardcore players have been in Gemstone for years upon years, paying subscription fees, and sometimes buying into merchants. If someone with the money and inclination wanted to, they could come into Gemstone, spend the same amount of money you have and come out with alot more to show for it. Then they could sell it, make profit, and do it all over again. Just because someone spends a thousand dollars on a character, doesnt always mean they just threw the money down the drain. There is always someone else who will buy the character, or you can always use the character to make coins in various ways. Same with items. There is almost always someone waiting to buy the item from you. Why? Because its rare or unique.

As far as the question of why other people havent gotten into the things like Ciston did, and Tsin is now doing. There ARE other people in it. But they either aren't operating in the open like those two did, or they aren't quite as big an operation.

[Back]

Backlash you might wanna call a plumber, sounds like your bullshit filter got clogged.

Just saying, I’m skeptical.

[Stunseed]

It can be done, but you would have to be really picky about your investments, GS-wise.

Another alternative is to Assume Aspect yourself into Fred Sanford like Allen does. With every character that goes on sale, he is ready and willing to ignore your asking price and offer you fifty bucks.

Lying about an item's properties can quickly gain you the silvers you want, if you can Tsin your way through it.

[Sean]

5 * 30 = 150 . . . ?

Why didn't you just get residency first, or get it after the first year you were there saving you . . . roughly 134 billion dollars?

How is it that you could graduate college in two relatively intensive majors while playing gemstone, smoking and getting drunk on a near constant basis?

Something just isn't adding up.

Not that I'm defending Tsin but there are these things in college outside of tuition that you need to spend money on, they're called books and supplies. And without knowing his situation and because i'm too lazy to goto the UW site I don't know if that 30k included things like room and board. I'm not saying it costs you an extra 10k a year (50,000/5 years) but the point is just because it cost you $X/yr in tuition doesn't mean it costs you $X/yr to attend school.

[Wezas]

Wow, there were a few server glitches. Luckily I backed up this thread. Lets see what we lost...


You won't know when it's coming.. It might not be today or tomorrow or even this week.. It will come when you think I forgot and you are safe.

In addition, anyone I see helping Reltov or Jamus whether it's rescues or assisting him with bounty tasks such as supplying gems will no longer get any help from myself or my friends.

and


It's not worth the money.. If I don't make an example out of him other people will try and do it..

I'll repeat myself again.. anyone I see helping Reltov or Jamus with spells, rescues or even gems for bounty tasks will get any help again. Along with informing as many people as humanly possible not to help you or them ever again.

What would you all do without me?

[Sean]

When I went to college, all those years ago.. they had things call scholarships, grants and other free tuition assistance. I didn't know very many people who paid the 'regular' price.. and if they did they were too dumb to be in college anyway.

This post reeks of a back in my day movies only cost a nickle type speech..

[StrayRogue]

24.6k USD.

Gotta love that exchange rate. But yeah, boo about all the worldwide troubles etc etc.

[Skirmisher]

Wow, there were a few server glitches. Luckily I backed up this thread. Lets see what we lost...

( Tsin's showing just how not upset he is by threatening a worldwide apocolypse)

and

(More of Tsin's self involved threats and rantings)


What would you all do without me?

Well played sir, well played.

[Gan]

WTF?
____________________________________

An Ithzir scout swings a gleaming crystal-edged broadsword at you!
AS: +434 vs DS: +417 with AvD: +30 + d100 roll: +94 = +141
... and hits for 12 points of damage!
Attack hits your throat but doesn't break the skin.
Close!
** An Ithzir scout's crystal-edged broadsword emits a searing bolt of lightning! **
... 30 points of damage!
Stunning arc of electricity fuses left arm at elbow.
You are stunned for 5 rounds!
>
Though you are stunned and reeling, you become aware of your pounding heart. With each beat, it grows louder and louder, faster and faster, but then it fades again, and you are left as dazed as you were.
>
An Ithzir herald strolls in, humming softly to herself.
>
Tsin's group just arrived.
>
An Ithzir scout swings a gleaming crystal-edged broadsword at you!
AS: +434 vs DS: +411 with AvD: +30 + d100 roll: +22 = +75
A clean miss.
>
A war griffin tries to bite you!
AS: +435 vs DS: +404 with AvD: +24 + d100 roll: +47 = +102
... and hits for 1 point of damage!
Glancing blow to your right leg!
>
Tsin gestures while calling upon the lesser spirits for aid...
>
Tsin gestures at you.
You are no longer stunned.
>'thanks
You say, "Thanks."
>
Tsin pulls you to your feet.
>stand
You feel more refreshed.
>
[Roll result: -1 (open d100: 14)]
An Ithzir scout crouches and sweeps a leg at Tsin, but only manages to trip herself.
>
You are already standing.
>
Tsin shrugs.
>
An Ithzir herald sings an unnerving, alien dirge.
Chazym pauses for a moment, grimacing.
You maintain your courage, resisting the urge to flee!
Roundtime: 3 sec.
>
An Ithzir scout glances at an Ithzir herald, saying, "Te hamma maktath eif, ptath hamma ka xeca eif."
The Ithzir scout points at Tsin.
The Ithzir herald nods in response.
An Ithzir scout swings a gleaming crystal-edged broadsword at Tsin!
AS: +434 vs DS: +597 with AvD: +25 + d100 roll: +64 = -74
A clean miss.
>
A war griffin tries to bite you!
AS: +435 vs DS: +454 with AvD: +24 + d100 roll: +79 = +84
A clean miss.
>
Tsin just went north.
>stance def
You are now in a defensive stance.
>
Tsin just arrived.
>loo
[Old Ta'Faendryl, Southern Road]
The broken surface of the cobbled road winds down to the south, disappearing from view as it bends slightly to the west and is hidden by a heavy growth of underbrush. Two long shadowed lines of tumbled stones, which appear to have once been columns, flank each side of the road. You also see the yellow Chazym disk, an Ithzir herald, a badly damaged maoral strongbox, a polished steel shield, a spiral-hafted handaxe, an Ithzir scout, a twisted crystal-tipped staff, a war griffin that is flying around, a twisted crystal-tipped staff, the Jaken disk, a twisted crystal-tipped staff, a curved silvery blade and a gleaming steel longsword.
Also here: Tsin, Chazym
Obvious paths: north, south
>
Tsin pulls on Chazym, trying to get him closer.
>
Tsin just went north.
>
An Ithzir scout shimmers and fades from view.
>bone her
*** TypoHelp: Converted "1106 her" to PREP 1106 and CAST AT her
You focus your thoughts while chanting the mystical phrase for Bone Shatter...
Your spell is ready.
>
You gesture at an Ithzir herald.
You concentrate intently on an Ithzir herald, and a pulse of pearlescent energy ripples toward her!
CS: +484 - TD: +361 + CvA: +9 + d100: +64 == +196
Warding failed!
The Ithzir herald shudders with severe convulsions as pearlescent ripples envelop her body.
The Ithzir herald is crushed for 65 points of damage!
... 35 points of damage!
Massive blow removes the Ithzir herald's right forearm at the elbow!
The herald's silvery blade falls to the ground.
The Ithzir herald is stunned!
... 60 points of damage!
Blow to chest frees a rib to spear a lung and heart!
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
(Forcing stance down to guarded)
>
Tsin just arrived.
>
Tsin's group just went north.
>
A war griffin tries to spear you with its beak!
AS: +435 vs DS: +608 with AvD: +27 + d100 roll: +8 = -138
A clean miss.
>bone her
*** TypoHelp: Converted "1106 her" to PREP 1106 and CAST AT her
You focus your thoughts while chanting the mystical phrase for Bone Shatter...
Your spell is ready.
>
You gesture at an Ithzir herald.
You concentrate intently on an Ithzir herald, and a pulse of pearlescent energy ripples toward her!
CS: +484 - TD: +361 + CvA: +9 + d100: +64 == +196
Warding failed!
The Ithzir herald shudders with severe convulsions as pearlescent ripples envelop her body.
The Ithzir herald is crushed for 65 points of damage!
... 30 points of damage!
Hard strike to right leg breaking tendons and bone!
The Ithzir herald falls to the ground in a crumpled heap.
The tingling sensation and sense of security leaves an Ithzir herald.
The brilliant luminescence fades from around an Ithzir herald.
The silvery luminescence fades from around an Ithzir herald.
The bright luminescence fades from around an Ithzir herald.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>
You begin to feel better as the bruises around your neck fade.
>loot
You search the Ithzir herald.
You discard the herald's useless equipment.
She didn't carry any silver.
Interesting, she carried a polished bloodwood wand on her.
She had nothing else of value.
An Ithzir herald's body shimmers slightly, then fades from view like a dissipating phantom.
>loo
[Old Ta'Faendryl, Southern Road]
The broken surface of the cobbled road winds down to the south, disappearing from view as it bends slightly to the west and is hidden by a heavy growth of underbrush. Two long shadowed lines of tumbled stones, which appear to have once been columns, flank each side of the road. You also see a polished bloodwood wand, a curved silvery blade, a badly damaged maoral strongbox, a polished steel shield, a spiral-hafted handaxe, a twisted crystal-tipped staff, a war griffin that is flying around, a twisted crystal-tipped staff, the Jaken disk, a twisted crystal-tipped staff, a curved silvery blade and a gleaming steel longsword.
Obvious paths: north, south
>bone grif
*** TypoHelp: Converted "1106 grif" to PREP 1106 and CAST AT grif
You focus your thoughts while chanting the mystical phrase for Bone Shatter...
Your spell is ready.
>
You gesture at a war griffin.
You concentrate intently on a war griffin, and a pulse of pearlescent energy ripples toward it!
CS: +484 - TD: +409 + CvA: +25 + d100: +60 == +160
Warding failed!
The war griffin shudders with sporadic convulsions as pearlescent ripples envelop its body.
The war griffin is crushed for 60 points of damage!
... 35 points of damage!
Nice blow to left arm!
... 35 points of damage!
Nice blow to chest!
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>
A war griffin rakes at you with a razor-sharp claw!
AS: +435 vs DS: +619 with AvD: +23 + d100 roll: +87 = -74
A clean miss.
A war griffin rakes at you with a razor-sharp claw!
AS: +435 vs DS: +619 with AvD: +23 + d100 roll: +4 = -157
A clean miss.
>bone grif
*** TypoHelp: Converted "1106 grif" to PREP 1106 and CAST AT grif
You focus your thoughts while chanting the mystical phrase for Bone Shatter...
Your spell is ready.
>
You gesture at a war griffin.
You concentrate intently on a war griffin, and a pulse of pearlescent energy ripples toward it!
CS: +484 - TD: +409 + CvA: +25 + d100: +26 == +126
Warding failed!
The war griffin shudders with moderate convulsions as pearlescent ripples envelop its body.
The war griffin is smashed for 32 points of damage!
... 25 points of damage!
Blow to back connects lightly.
... 20 points of damage!
Blow grazes right leg.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>bone grif
*** TypoHelp: Converted "1106 grif" to PREP 1106 and CAST AT grif
You focus your thoughts while chanting the mystical phrase for Bone Shatter...
Your spell is ready.
>
You gesture at a war griffin.
You concentrate intently on a war griffin, and a pulse of pearlescent energy ripples toward it!
CS: +484 - TD: +409 + CvA: +25 + d100: +41 == +141
Warding failed!
The war griffin shudders with sporadic convulsions as pearlescent ripples envelop its body.
The war griffin is smashed for 43 points of damage!
... 30 points of damage!
Blow connects right below left eye!
... 20 points of damage!
Strike glances off the chest.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>
A war griffin tries to bite you!
AS: +415 vs DS: +619 with AvD: +24 + d100 roll: +2 = -178
A clean miss.
>bone grif
*** TypoHelp: Converted "1106 grif" to PREP 1106 and CAST AT grif
You focus your thoughts while chanting the mystical phrase for Bone Shatter...
Your spell is ready.
>
You gesture at a war griffin.
You concentrate intently on a war griffin, and a pulse of pearlescent energy ripples toward it!
CS: +484 - TD: +409 + CvA: +25 + d100: +21 == +121
Warding failed!
The war griffin shudders with moderate convulsions as pearlescent ripples envelop its body.
The war griffin is smashed for 31 points of damage!
... 20 points of damage!
Brushing blow to temple.
... 25 points of damage!
Blow grazes left arm lightly.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>
You begin to feel a little better.
>bone grif
*** TypoHelp: Converted "1106 grif" to PREP 1106 and CAST AT grif
You focus your thoughts while chanting the mystical phrase for Bone Shatter...
Your spell is ready.
>
You gesture at a war griffin.
You concentrate intently on a war griffin, and a pulse of pearlescent energy ripples toward it!
CS: +484 - TD: +409 + CvA: +25 + d100: +68 == +168
Warding failed!
The war griffin shudders with sporadic convulsions as pearlescent ripples envelop its body.
The war griffin is crushed for 65 points of damage!
The war griffin crashes to the ground, motionless.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>
Tsin's group just arrived.
>
Tsin whispers, "How about ya refrain from all the demeaning posts eh?"
>
Tsin shrugs.
>
Tsin's group just went north.
__________________________________________________ ____

Dear Tsin,

1. If you're going to make a comment like that, in game, learn to whisper OOC.

2. If you're going to make a comment like that, in game, stick around long enough for me to respond.

3. I've been skeptical of your claims, and have been bemused and yet disgusted with your arrogance on the boards; however, with all of your actions, I've been hardly vitriolic as compared to others who have participated in the threads about you.

4. If by bringing that comment to my attention, after your character helped my character while hunting, your sole intention was to make me think that losing your favor would have negative consequences in game... YOU'RE OUT OF YOUR FUCKING MIND.

5. My advice to you. Quit participating and responding to threads made about you on the PC. In fact, if you just cant stay away from selling your items here, then refrain from posting anything more than simple item descriptions and the word *bump, or sold.

6. I'll refrain from posting what I think about your maturity with this stunt. Its clear enough without having to dillute it with my commentary.

[Celephais]

Heh... you typed "bone her"

[thornhappy]

This just gets more and more amusing. Keep up the entertainment, kiddies.

[Gan]

This just gets more and more amusing. Keep up the entertainment, kiddies.

Is that supposed to be deragatory? And if so, towards whom?

[bubbauno]

He probably finds the whole thing just as funny as I do... The only reason I even read these boards and keep posting is so I can get a good laugh.. It's extremely flattering to see how much time you actually spend talking about me. I agree with thornhappy, keep em coming!

[StrayRogue]

I don't know. Your first (and subsequent following) post in this thread sounded pretty angry. I imagine you were smashing your chubby fists on the keyboard as Reltov imploded your room as well.

[GS4-D]

I imagine you were smashing your chubby fists on the keyboard as Reltov imploded your room as well.

Heh, that reminded me of this video..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBVmfIUR1DA

[Gan]

He probably finds the whole thing just as funny as I do... The only reason I even read these boards and keep posting is so I can get a good laugh.. It's extremely flattering to see how much time you actually spend talking about me. I agree with thornhappy, keep em coming!

Not to mention all the effort expended in deleting said posts...

[Danical]

I don't know. Your first (and subsequent following) post in this thread sounded pretty angry. I imagine you were smashing your chubby fists on the keyboard as Reltov imploded your room as well.


touche!

[Aaysia]

Wow... that was lame by Tsin. If you were so 'amused' by this thread and not bothered I doubt you would have taken the time to whisper that.

[Danical]

Heh, that reminded me of this video..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBVmfIUR1DA

Never saw that before. Simply the best.

Should start a thread about the funniest YouTube vids (whoever thinks those emo tools doing that theme music shit is funny should check into the nearest mental ward).

[bubbauno]

Anyone seen the guy beating Super Mario 3 in 11 minutes? That is so fucking crazy..

[Merzbow]

No, not even close.

I can think of three items alone that cost as much. All were owned at one point by a single person.

And yeah, LOL at your "roleplaying" remarks.

What are those items, out of curiousity? What could possibly make an item worth the equivalent of $15k?

[StrayRogue]

Combined, Thalior's Eye, The Red Armour, and the teleportation orb (prior to nerf) would total up to over a billion.

[bubbauno]

I'd pay a billion for the soul blade right now.. too bad Enegue will never sell it

[Merzbow]

Combined, Thalior's Eye, The Red Armour, and the teleportation orb (prior to nerf) would total up to over a billion.

What do/did they do?

[GS4-D]

This is what Thalior's Eye does, as per the current owner's information.

Opening the eye:

You concentrate on the emerald eye, forcing it to
open.

It stays open for about 15 seconds.

Then you stare at whatever...

If it fails:

You feel a sharp pain burning deep within your skull!
You feel a sudden dizziness and you fall to the
ground.
The air about you stops shimmering.
You feel the aura of confidence leave you.
Roundtime: 10 Sec.

This leaves you flat on your back, and removes every
spell from you, so it's not ideal for hunting.

If successful:

A kobold suddenly shudders!
... 5 points of damage!
Light shock to left arm. That stings!
... 50 points of damage!
Eye spins backward into skull. The kobold falls to
the ground dead.
The kobold crumples to a heap on the ground and dies.
Roundtime: 3 sec.

The Eye closes automatically:

You feel the emerald eye shut.

Taking the eye out:

You clench your teeth and rip the emerald eye from
your right eye socket.

You scream in pain!
You are stunned.
Roundtime: 20 sec.

Putting the eye in:

You insert a dark blue emerald eye into your empty
right eye socket.

It only works on the living, if you try and stare at
something undead it will calm them. You need to be
missing an eye to put it in, but you can heal the eye
once you're wearing it so it doesn't hinder your
hunting ability.

[StrayRogue]

It also stuns the target, forces them into kneeling, and opens a bleeder.

[bubbauno]

Thalior's eye is a dark blue emerald eye you can wear.. when you stare at people/critters it sends these things like leeches into your body that immolate you.. It's not dodgeable that I know of. Which would most likely get nerfed if anyone other than Speaker owned it..

Red armor is 5x +40 damage padded full plate, currently owned by Blueland. Used to be worth 400m.. Now it's worth like 150 since damage market got killed.

Crystal ball used to be unlimited locate and teleport to anyone, anywhere.. I just sold it recently to Katara, and then it was nerfed to be 3x per day with 1x per day cross realms.

[Merzbow]

Wait, so the eye is guaranteed fatal to the (living) target? Or are the effects related to level?

[Merzbow]

That Crystal Ball sounded insanely overpowered before it got nerfed... Jesus fuck.

[StrayRogue]

Wait, so the eye is guaranteed fatal to the (living) target? Or are the effects related to level?

Level has no factor. It is random.

And the ball was nerfed because people were using it to spy on GMs.

[thornhappy]

Is that supposed to be deragatory? And if so, towards whom?

No, and no one particularly. It's a fond term used to refer to the PC posters as a whole.

I call a lot of folks 'kiddo', don't take offense.

On topic.. the whole thing IS very comical. Usually people don't roast themselves quite so effectively, what with the pulled posts and feigned indifference. It'd appear he's calmed down considerably now, but it's still good reading at work.

[Ardwen]

There were a good 15-20 items that would have sold for 350+ million silvers, some still would others have been nerfed, not one item has been added to the game that would sell for anywhere near that.

The un-nerfed Seymour and Thalior's Staff were easily the most valued items.

Crystal Amulet in more then 500 mana out an umlimted number of times. Tedra was able to cast 0x to 10x in 3 days under the old system.

Unlimited imbeds of any spell from any cricle.

The Pallbearers would have been fairly valuable as well.

Ardwen

[AestheticDeath]

The Pallbearers would have been fairly valuable as well.

Ardwen

Expand upon this please?

[bubbauno]

Demon that comes out of your backpack and drags you to the nearest temple when you die.

[Ardwen]

Pallbearers is a backpack that when you died picked up dropped gear and transported you and it to the nearest temple. Imagine the value back when items dropped on death.

Ardwen

[AestheticDeath]

Nice. Is this a new item? Or another old one I just never heard about?

Someone needs to make a nice long list of all the uber items so we peons can drool.

[Ardwen]

ice age item like almost every truly great one.

Ardwen

[LMingrone]

Another reason you don't see items like these released anymore is that we haven't been paying hourly rates in a long time.

The hours($) you used to need to put in was crazy. I made hundreds of millions back in AOL days, but ultimately lost money when paying 6.95+ an hour. I vaguely remember stories of Thalior spending $15k-$20k just paying Simu for hours. So the value of his items are relative to the times.

[Stretch]

...hundreds of millions, huh...

[Caede]

I've played off and on since 93-94ish, and I have never gotten close to seeing items like this. I'd like to see a thread where people just showed some of these spiffy items that I'll never be able to afford, no matter how many years I play.

[Merzbow]

Another reason you don't see items like these released anymore is that we haven't been paying hourly rates in a long time.

The hours($) you used to need to put in was crazy. I made hundreds of millions back in AOL days, but ultimately lost money when paying 6.95+ an hour. I vaguely remember stories of Thalior spending $15k-$20k just paying Simu for hours. So the value of his items are relative to the times.

So the Thalior's items were named after this dude then?

[Stunseed]

Yes.

[Sean of the Thread]

I'm going to get a AOL bill nightmare thanks to this thread..

[Methais]

Crystal ball used to be unlimited locate and teleport to anyone, anywhere.. I just sold it recently to Katara, and then it was nerfed to be 3x per day with 1x per day cross realms.

That's pretty weak. And also another reason why buying high end items like that for insane amounts of silver/cash is retarded with the way GMs love to nerf anything that's remotely cool.


That Crystal Ball sounded insanely overpowered before it got nerfed... Jesus fuck.

I don't really think a locate/teleport item is overpowered, but I also think GS's travel system is incredibly beef wellington. So beef wellington that even Elton John, Freddy Mercury, and that guy from Fear Factor that spent his 50k on ass implants would say it's beef wellington. An item like Kree's blade would be considered overpowered.


And the ball was nerfed because people were using it to spy on GMs.

I'm not sure if I really buy that. That might be what the GMs told people, but that would have nothing to do with why the cross realm teleporting was nerfed as well. Not to mention it should be relatively easy for them to just make it so it either won't work in a GM's room, or simply make their characters immune to its effect, not much unlike the way Locate Person works. Simu just wanted a reason to nerf it so they made one up most likely, as is usually the case. I'm surprised they didn't just say "It was bugged and should never have worked cross realms or be able to locate someone. It's just a coincidence we did it after it was sold to someone else, honest!"

[Rainy Day]

Do you really expect someone with the most fame, experience and close to the richest character in the game to be modest? I may roleplay being an arrogant jerk because of my status, but most of my friends know that it's all an act and i'm in fact a very generous person.

:jerkit:

RD

[Rainy Day]

In my experience GMs usually only nerf the old powerful stuff once a new owner starts abusing the shit out of it. Enegue's and Kree's swords were mentioned. They were never nerfed because they had responsible owners. Thalior's old stuff wasn't nerfed when the original still owned them. Those immolation weapons were released in more modern times and were only nerfed after Nanna abused hers every which way possible during storylines and invasions.

If people would buy the old cool stuff and then have some common sense in how they use them, they would be able to keep most of them with their old properties intact. Not everything for sure, but most of it.

RD

[LMingrone]

...hundreds of millions, huh...

No, I'm actually making that up.

[Skeeter]

that's one of the problems with the high end stuff though. If you can afford some rediculously cool item that Simu will never make again, you have to look over your shoulder any time you use it, in case a GM happens to be watching and wants to snatch it up and nerf it.

There should be rediculously over powered items in a fantasy game. It's a fantasy game, not Sim Middle Earth. Huge new items would bring all sorts of excitement to GS, and give something for people to strive for.

[Methais]

But then everyone that doesn't have one of the huge new items would cry about it and then the GMs would nerf them into uselessness. The problem is that GS has too many unique high end items. High end stuff should be hard to get, but still available to anyone who wants to put forth the effort to attain it. Unique items really have no place in MMOs these days.

[Merzbow]

You couldn't be more wrong Methais. It's what gives the game character.

[Ignot]

Simu is to concerned about making the game "fair" and not concerned enough about making the game "better".

[Methais]

You couldn't be more wrong Methais. It's what gives the game character.

It's also why no good items ever come out anymore and why the old items that actually are good get nerfed into dog shit.

[Ardwen]

Plenty of good items have been released in the recent past, generally they have huge weaknesses like Sorrow, or are attuned like pure coraseine., think of the item you'd most like to own and figure out when it was released. Be interesting to see peoples answers.

Ardwen

[Asha]

Black oak longbow. Released last year.
The only item in game I haven't got that I want.

[Skeeter]

I want that transporting picture. that thing was sweet.

I have no idea if it still does what it used to do. but I remember the guy who owned it stepping out of the air in TSC a couple times.

Always thought that was awesome.

[Methais]

Direstrike was the last person I knew of that had one, though there were a few of them if I remember right.

[bubbauno]

I sold the painting to Redorc

[Stanley Burrell]

mithril thumpers (when you'd light at least four at the same time)

And that skull bowling item I keep talking about are the best items in the game. Hands down. Totally objectively. Yes. :foshizzle:

[Rainy Day]

I think there's a longsword that has a wolf familiar? Older item, but would be something I'd love. Other than that I can never decide what my dream item would be. Mostly cause I'm never rich so can't imagine spending everything I have on one item. I think the most I ever had at one time was eight mill, can't get much with that. One of those multiple location gold rings would be cool though. I hate trying to keep track of all mine. There were a couple of those on the recent Promise weren't there?

RD

[Boris]

Dream item= 10x, Doubly Crit weighted, Claidhmore.

[TheEschaton]

Best item I'd kill for is Fremie's altered Charl symbol with all sorts of crazy scripts. It does nothing, but my Charl priest would give both testicles and possibly an arm for it.

but Fremie's had it for about or 6 years now, and told me personally I'd have to pry it from his cold, dead fingers. I'm still waiting for him to keel over.

He bought it for a steal from under me too...a bunch of these crazily scripted Arkati symbols were released, I know at least of a Luukos one.

-TheE-

[Sean of the Thread]

I like the annoying pillows that you can BLAST people in the face with. heheheheh.

[Skeeter]

Best item I'd kill for is Fremie's altered Charl symbol with all sorts of crazy scripts. It does nothing, but my Charl priest would give both testicles and possibly an arm for it.

but Fremie's had it for about or 6 years now, and told me personally I'd have to pry it from his cold, dead fingers. I'm still waiting for him to keel over.

He bought it for a steal from under me too...a bunch of these crazily scripted Arkati symbols were released, I know at least of a Luukos one.

-TheE-

I had an arachne symbol like that. it was from the monthly raffles. pretty cool if that's your deity but otherwise fluff.

[Skeeter]

I sold the painting to Redorc

do you remember how much it went for?

[StrayRogue]

I think there's a longsword that has a wolf familiar?

RD

Bastard Sword. 1x a day a unique wolf familiar or permablessed bastard sword.

Currently lost in time.

[DeV]

I like the annoying pillows that you can BLAST people in the face with. heheheheh.
Those things are way cool. The fact that you can blast people many levels over you adds to the coolness factor.

[Anebriated]

One of the original elemental bows. Only like 2 were actually in the hands of archers at the time I stopped playing Elrodin. I know Speaker had one and I forget who had the others.

[Anebriated]

I dont remember what it was called but Boomsplat won a set of damage padded scale armor, then had merchant work done to boost the padding up, then won merchant work to had it changed to full plate. So he ended up with a set of very heavily damage padded plate. QQ. Im pretty sure he even had it lightened to the limit. This was probably about 2-3 years ago at one of the festivals. Was the first time they did the armor conversions.

[AnticorRifling]

Any self mana AS boosters. I didn't need DS, I just needed more melee AS. Sorrow would have been big pimping if it worked, any 10x weighted 2h/polearm would have been money to me as well. Maybe some better armor, 4x VHCP LBP is good but there is always a sweeter set out there.

[Augie]

Best item I'd kill for is Fremie's altered Charl symbol with all sorts of crazy scripts. It does nothing, but my Charl priest would give both testicles and possibly an arm for it.

but Fremie's had it for about or 6 years now, and told me personally I'd have to pry it from his cold, dead fingers. I'm still waiting for him to keel over.

He bought it for a steal from under me too...a bunch of these crazily scripted Arkati symbols were released, I know at least of a Luukos one.

-TheE-


I had an arachne symbol like that. it was from the monthly raffles. pretty cool if that's your deity but otherwise fluff.

I think you're getting the symbols mixed up. The one Fremie has is like my Zelia one. It was released during the 2000 Foehn's Promise. They have like a CRAPLOAD of scripts on them.

The ones from the Monthly Raffles don't have a huge amount of scripts like that one does. There are each unique and have different sayings for each Arkati when you RAISE it. Really awesome item.

[Skeeter]

mine had 5 or 6 scripts. plus the raise one. But I guess 5 or 6 doesn't qualify as craploads.

[Celephais]

I remember a set of double leathers that made you unable to be looked at... you were just a shadowy form or something akin to that, I was at the raffle for it and was just in awe of them, even in the "also here" you didn't get the persons name, just a shadowy form.

Anyone know anything about these?

[TheEschaton]

oh God, I remember those. And I remember never knowing who owned them cause you couldn't look at the fuckin' person!

-TheE-

[grenthor]

I remember a set of double leathers that made you unable to be looked at... you were just a shadowy form or something akin to that, I was at the raffle for it and was just in awe of them, even in the "also here" you didn't get the persons name, just a shadowy form.

Anyone know anything about these?

"a cloudy humanoid shape"

:)

[Ardwen]

Heh I owned the Andelas auction symbol for ages, I traded it to someone after I got my Andelas high priest symbol, that had been Amerlise's. shortly thereafter the person vanished. That has always annoyed me.

Ardwen

[TheEschaton]

They ("They" being the PTB) always told me they had planned on releasing two each of the Arkati symbols into the game. I waited....and waited....and waited...for the 2nd Charl one, to no avail.

Ardwen, if you know of anyone who has the 2nd one (since I doubt Fremie would ever sell), let me know.

-TheE-

[Celephais]

"a cloudy humanoid shape"

:)

Know anything more about them? :)

[crazymage]

Bastard Sword. 1x a day a unique wolf familiar or permablessed bastard sword.

Currently lost in time.

my ring does the same wolf in the landing, and a sleek white one in ice mule. havent tried illistim or teras yet.

Also the meaty bone item also did the sleek black wolf. 2x a day i believe.

[septus]

yeah that familiar ring is really nice. Too bad I don't have any wizards.

I believe 1 humanoid shape was released for each armor class (I vaguly remember the full plate one going for 160 million at the auction) If I remember correctly they were 5x, padded, weighed less than 2lbs, and obsured your entire inventory so you could only see the shape when you looked at the person. Nifty items.

I always wanted Dart's crystal ball. Especially after he used it to save my ass during one of the House Arcane hunts up in pinefar. How much is it worth now that it's nerfed so badly?

Of course, I always wanted a locate item and there's only three that I know of.. a scroll that lets you invoke it 3x/day, dart's ball, and Kali's hand mirror (which also did the same thing dart's ball did I believe). Of course now that I play a paladin, I'll be able to locate oh.. probably 6 months from now if I don't quit GS again lol.

[Methais]

Pretty sure Kali's mirror didn't go cross realms.

[StrayRogue]

The ball can only cross-realms once per day.

[Ardwen]

Kali's mirror originally went crossrealms and was unlimited, when she became a GM she downtweaked it and some other of her items over time voluntarily. Have to remember when The mirror and ball were created there was only one realm.

Ardwen

[Methais]

I wonder why a GM would nerf their own item. Strange. Kali was Aelsidhe right?

As for the ball, did Dart create that himself when he was a GM? Or did he have it before he was a GM? I remember reading all sorts of rumors about him abusing GM powers for this and that, but I don't remember what exactly he supposedly did, or if any of them were true.

[Ardwen]

Since the ball was basically a copy of the mirror I doubt he created it for himself, though its possible he did copy it for himself. And alot of GMs have self nerfed items in the past, and yes that iis whom Kali was.

Ardwen

[Insodus]

But then everyone that doesn't have one of the huge new items would cry about it and then the GMs would nerf them into uselessness. The problem is that GS has too many unique high end items. High end stuff should be hard to get, but still available to anyone who wants to put forth the effort to attain it. Unique items really have no place in MMOs these days.

So very true my friend.

People with high-end (unique) items will perpetually say that it adds character to the game, and people who don't have them will perpetually think its unfair.

Personally, I started playing just after the conversion off AOL, though I've taken years at a time off. So if I had actually put the time into the game for all those years and still didn't have anything, I would be pretty pissed off too.

In my opinion, people paying the same money and putting in the same time should get just as much reward. Just imagine how many people have quit the game because of the time they put in with no reward.

Yes roleplay is the main objective, but that only gets you so far. I can only sit there and watch other people play around with insane items so long before lust takes over.

[Merzbow]

In my opinion, people paying the same money and putting in the same time should get just as much reward.

Hello, Karl Marx. That's Communism. Just like in real life, if people want access to super-high-end items or skills, they should have to think and act creatively, not just clock in their time every day.

[Landrion]

I wonder why a GM would nerf their own item. Strange. Kali was Aelsidhe right?

As for the ball, did Dart create that himself when he was a GM? Or did he have it before he was a GM? I remember reading all sorts of rumors about him abusing GM powers for this and that, but I don't remember what exactly he supposedly did, or if any of them were true.

http://zilal.byondhome.com/gs3/culture/gemkali.html

Why shed nerf her own item? Probably she got to a point where the integrity of the game was more important to her than her own character's benefit.

I dont know anything about Dartaghan though. Before my time.

[septus]

Though Dart did abuse his powers (As did other GMs at that time) He won the ball during one of the hot summer nights auctions I believe. (Most likely before he became a GM)

Of course, it's within GMs rules for them to create items for their own characters, as long as they don't sell/lend them out and such.

There's still some GM favoritism and such that goes on today, but it's not at all like it used to be.

the Thingul diamond would be another nice item to have (did that ever get returned to the owner?) and those laen keys are nice (who has the other one besides Ardwen?)

[Insodus]

Hello, Karl Marx. That's Communism. Just like in real life, if people want access to super-high-end items or skills, they should have to think and act creatively, not just clock in their time every day.

Except this isn't real life, it's a game.

Besides, you can be creative and still not get high-end items in this game. The only way to do that in this game is get extremely lucky, or know someone.

[StrayRogue]

Or work hard and make the coin to buy one.

[Insodus]

Right.

So you're average Joe, level 40 lets say. You would really love one of those elemental bows. So the best players can make upwards of 150k an hour, so lets say average Joe makes 75k an hour. Elemental bows, or anything you would call high-end, would go for what now, 150m? Simple math... thats 2000 hours of gameplay. You think thats even remotely doable? I'd say no.

[StrayRogue]

So? Why should everything be gained easily? The best players get to be the best players by investing more time (or money) and hence see better gains than average Joe. The entire point of these items is that average Joe doesn't have them. Hence why they are special, unique, cool.

Secondly, what stops a level 40 (or level 1) character from merchanting their way to 150 mil?

[Sean of the Thread]

Can always do like they did back in the day.. dupe silvers and items or collude with bad GM's.

You guys act like all the silvers our there were gained honorably.

[Alfster]

a very large quantity of shit was duped with the locker bug and not many got caught

[Insodus]

So? Why should everything be gained easily? The best players get to be the best players by investing more time (or money) and hence see better gains than average Joe. The entire point of these items is that average Joe doesn't have them. Hence why they are special, unique, cool.

Secondly, what stops a level 40 (or level 1) character from merchanting their way to 150 mil?

You are just reinforcing my point. You can't just go on the amunet and find things you can buy and sell for twice as much. First thing I said, you have to either be extremely lucky, or know someone. Point being, putting in the time, or being creative isn't enough.

[StrayRogue]

Putting in the time IS enough. That was my point. If you want something bad enough, you can get it IF you work for it.

[Insodus]

2000 hours... 8 hour days, 40 hours a week, for 50 weeks.

Guess what, thats a full time job for a full year.

If you consider that amount of time, in the context of an online game, an applicable use of the term "putting in the time", you're insane.

[StrayRogue]

You're stupid if you think cash grinding is the only way to get silvers in game.

[Insodus]

Well lets see.

You can cheat, or buy them. Both of which don't belong in a decent RPG.

And you can also merchant or gamble. Which again, takes luck.

[Anebriated]

Everyone knows that the real money comes from the roach racing on the RR ferry. Duh.