IC speak on an OOC board (moved from Windpanguss's sale)

[TheEschaton]

I want to, on principle, not buy anything from someone who says "Stuffums" on an OOC/OOG board. But there's some things I want. The moral dilemma.

-TheE-

[Windpanguss]

Well it may be a moral deliema but almost everyone who reads this board is from the game and that is how I talk in the game and I do belive it says Windpanguss my game name.

[Kainen]

Whats the point of posting how you talk in game? These boards are ooc unless otherwise noted.

[Asha]

It's reall scary, innit.

[Leetahkin]

Windpanguss, I'm sending you a PM regarding an item you have listed. I don't have access to AIM until this evening.

[Kainen]

Holy christ.
Who the fk cares if he wants to be in character when selling on these boards?

You don't like it, don't buy from him. End of story.
Geesh.



Someone needs to lay off the coffee.. or something. I asked why, didn't berate them etc. I was curious.

[Landrion]

Holy christ.
Who the fk cares if he wants to be in character when selling on these boards?

You don't like it, don't buy from him. End of story.
Geesh.

Windpanguss, I'm sending you a PM regarding an item you have listed. I don't have access to AIM until this evening.

Oh I dunno, I thought it a friendly reminder that perhaps the cutesy RP spellings would be a turn off to some buyers. I suppose some people find it silly to put the text in character while listing OOG stats. Beats me, I wouldnt care personlly. After all, the point of the excercise is to move the equipment.

Out of curiousity, arent we allowed to fucking curse here? Why would you want to abbreviate it?

[Windpanguss]

I don't know I just think it is pretty ridiclous that all off of you that have something bad too say over the word stuffums is pretty childish who cares if it is in game or OOC/OOG comon does that really matter I posted to sell stuff that is the point of this board if you want to harrass me lets take it to another board I am just trying to sell shit I no long have the need for and was trying to be polite about it if I knew Stuffums was going to be a problem I wouldn't have said it I tryed to go back and fix it, wouldn't work now can we please just make this a auction page thanks,

[AnticorRifling]

Easy helmet jr. If you want to be want to try and be Boomsplat fine, you want to sell your shit here, great. If you want to stay IC you can, why who knows but you can. If you want to use a run on sentence from hell, be my guest. But don't get butt hurt when someone thinks differently and calls you on it.

[Landrion]

I don't know I just think it is pretty ridiclous that all off of you that have something bad too say over the word stuffums is pretty childish who cares if it is in game or OOC/OOG comon does that really matter I posted to sell stuff that is the point of this board if you want to harrass me lets take it to another board I am just trying to sell shit I no long have the need for and was trying to be polite about it if I knew Stuffums was going to be a problem I wouldn't have said it I tryed to go back and fix it, wouldn't work now can we please just make this a auction page thanks,


Certainly, no problem starting a different topic to keep the clutter out of your sale.

Now, you dont seem to like the criticism that some might have of the word "stuffums". You consider that ridiculous, childish and harrassing. However, you acknowledge that youd change it if you could and wouldnt have used it in the first place.

Well, the long and short of it is that some people are touchy about percieved child-speak roleplay and some people arent. Other people dont really care for in-game accents on oog boards. It sounds to me like youve learned something worthwhile about how to get better results when selling on OOG boards so just take it for what its worth.

I'll give you one more piece of advice. Your life at the PC (and elsewhere) goes much easier if you can just take criticism without getting riled up. Theres a lot less drama in saying: "Oh shit, my bad" than trying to fight people for criticising you in the first place.

[Asha]

Seriously though there's no bad in advertising in anyway you like. You wanna sound IC fine, if I like the items I'll still bid. If I don't I'll go elsewhere.
He's not been here to mingle or chat about everyday RL stuff as far as I've seen but only to sell IG items.
I'd pull him talking in character about RL issues , but not over this since it's IG material.
Good luck to him selling his stuff btw

[Sean of the Thread]

ROFL.. STFU Landrion.. the man can postums however the fuck he wantumms.

[Augie]

I definitely hate when people try to talk in character in emails, especially when you can't hardly understand their damn accent anyway. We have one person who is in the mentors who repeatedly tries to get into heated debates via email in a stupid accent that no one can fuckin understand and I have called her out many times to tell her to write in English if she expects any of us to read it.

As far as the "stuff'ums", sounds to me like someone's tryin to be like Boomsplat. There can be only one!!! Heehee. Anyhoots, like Landrion said, don't come shovin back regarding criticism or you'll be fighting it your whole life. Sometimes it's just easier to accept that you should have done things differently and learn from yer mistakes.

[Asha]

ROFL.. STFU Landrion.. the man can postums however the fuck he wantumms.
Precisely.

[AnticorRifling]

I'll give you one more piece of advice. Your life at the PC (and elsewhere) goes much easier if you can just take criticism without getting riled up. Theres a lot less drama in saying: "Oh shit, my bad" than trying to fight people for criticising you in the first place.

Go read your thoughts in your forging thread, then reread this.

[Stanley Burrell]

I believe Boomsplat has made excellent usage of an apostrophe, whereas applicable, seperating many-an-infamous stuffums and stuff'ums, muchums and much'ums, muffins and muff'ins, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

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Now then; how is it that Halflings, empaths and those entwined in donning themselves in pink-saturated attire have adopted this unique lingo? What is the cause for this change? Is it really a problem? If so, what can be done to solve it?

I am sure we all clearly remember Tolkien's hobbits, i.e. Sam and Frodo, as being a well-spoken furry couple.

There exists a paradigm shift that displays something as being very, very amiss.

In conclusion,

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[Caede]

Halflings were apparently hit on their collective little heads with a retarded stick, dripping with jam and tart-crumbs.

This does bring to mind my earliest memories of Gemstone where there were 'empuffs' and 'teefs'. I think this downward spiral was started a long time ago, and is not a recent paradigm shift.

[Snapp]

I definitely hate when people try to talk in character in emails, especially when you can't hardly understand their damn accent anyway. We have one person who is in the mentors who repeatedly tries to get into heated debates via email in a stupid accent that no one can fuckin understand and I have called her out many times to tell her to write in English if she expects any of us to read it.

That's exactly who I thought of too. I usually just delete any emails from her now, it's gotten so annoying.

[grenthor]

I'll give you one more piece of advice. Your life at the PC (and elsewhere) goes much easier if you can just take criticism without getting riled up. Theres a lot less drama in saying: "Oh shit, my bad" than trying to fight people for criticising you in the first place.
What I want to know is if you are suggesting to someone that they should just take the criticism without getting upset, why doesn't this work both ways?
When you (meaning anyone, not just Landrion - he just happened to have a quote handy) go criticising someone and they slap you back down for it, why don't you just take it?
I mean this to anyone: why doesn't it work both ways.
Really, why doesn't everyone just not say anything and keep thier opinions to themselves anyways? What if you are the one that's got the whacked-out way of looking at things?
In this case I didn't even really notice he'd put the word in his message. So if several people don't see a problem with it, who the hell is anyone else to tell him he's wrong or stupid for doing so?

[CrystalTears]

If people kept their opinions to themselves, message boards wouldn't exist, especially this one.

People have the right to express their distaste with anything they choose. However advising someone to not get all bent out of shape for disagreeing with them isn't bad advice, just easier said than done on both sides.

[Stanley Burrell]

See the above post.

[crazymage]

This is why everyone should just sell to GSAuctions.

[Leetahkin]

This is why everyone should just sell to GSAuctions.

Heck, I never remember that that site exists. I'm gonna have to favorite the site at home and take a look through it.

[Back]

:welcome: to the PC.

[Olanan]

:blah:

But wait, Anticor posted what you quoted?

[CrystalTears]

No, Anticor was repeating what Landrion said in his first post, Anticor just lacks the quoting abilities. We love him anyway. :D

[TheEschaton]

Damn it, Augie, Snapp, why aren't you working on getting me back in the mentors? ;) I already have Vic and Angela pulling for me, you should just loudly clamor at all the meetings until whoever it is who's in charge (Roxia? I think Mindra left, no?) pulls his/her hair out and says, "Yes! Let him back in!"

Hell, I was on the council before you guys were even mentors. I'm a sad priest now. :-(

-TheE-

[Landrion]

ROFL.. STFU Landrion.. the man can postums however the fuck he wantumms.

LOL.

[Landrion]

If people kept their opinions to themselves, message boards wouldn't exist, especially this one.

People have the right to express their distaste with anything they choose. However advising someone to not get all bent out of shape for disagreeing with them isn't bad advice, just easier said than done on both sides.

CT's is really better than I phrased it.

Im not even saying that he necessarily should cave and do what other people say (I know I used the phrase "my bad"). If its his preference to say "Sorry, this is how I write my post, Im cool with losing a few clients" then thats fine too. What I wanted to get across is that responding to criticism especially here on the PC with something like "don't know I just think it is pretty ridiclous that all off of you that have something bad too say over the word stuffums is pretty childish" is going to draw you more fire than less.

[CrystalTears]

On a personal note, I saw the thread title and laughed to myself and kept saying "stuffums?!" in my head. I didn't even read the thread because someone who feels the need to post IC on an OOG forum to sell things in an OOC fashion just made me burst a blood vessel in my forehead thinking about it.

The concept will turn some people off. If you don't mind, good for you. But people WILL take little things like that and use it to judge people... weird but true.

[Landrion]

I'll give you one more piece of advice. Your life at the PC (and elsewhere) goes much easier if you can just take criticism without getting riled up. Theres a lot less drama in saying: "Oh shit, my bad" than trying to fight people for criticising you in the first place.

Go read your thoughts in your forging thread, then reread this.

I have gone and reread as you suggest. I can see the similarity in the two situations and the difference of my stance in both. I must admit, it is pretty funny. Im thinking like this

Its good to share information with people and not ridicule them.
Its also good to be able to read a criticism without getting into a fight.

And no, Im not perfect at either one of them. Like anyone else, I lose my temper or am impatient with people all the time.

[HarmNone]

I think it's also important to remember that every criticism is not to be taken as ridicule.

[DeV]

Some stuffums is just not worth getting riled up about.

[Alfster]

Nilandia posts in character on here and it drives me fucking nuts

[allen]

I don't know I just think it is pretty ridiclous that all off of you that have something bad too say over the word stuffums is pretty childish who cares if it is in game or OOC/OOG

I know you from game, and as a friend, I'm telling you this: If you plan on selling stuff on these boards, EXPECT to have shit you post picked apart, even if it doesn't need picking. Get used to it, ignore it, or you'll give yourself arthritis trying to defend yourself. Welcome to PC. :)

[HarmNone]

I've moved the discussion of "stuffums" and it's proper use here. I've also changed the title on Windpanguss' thread in the GSIV Merchant's Market forum. Perhaps, that will satisfy everyone.

[Stanley Burrell]

So who wants to further indulge in this modern technological experiment on elements of the human psyche involving sublimation and tangent psychology-to-philosophy curveballs involving Descartian existentialism with a hint of Piaget's object permanence and how it has some profound impact when studying a possible internet forum in question?

M'kay :mackey:

[Kainen]

I think it's also important to remember that every criticism is not to be taken as ridicule.

Speaking for myself only.. I was curious.. nothing more.. maybe I should have asked in a PM instead.

[Sean of the Thread]

Take this thread and stuff'um it.

[Asha]

Forum which is based on GS. If it's in a thread about selling items for the game.. how can it be so wrong?

[HarmNone]

Speaking for myself only.. I was curious.. nothing more.. maybe I should have asked in a PM instead.

Nothing wrong with being curious. Nothing wrong with expressing it on the boards. I didn't really take your post as being ridicule, at all. Criticism isn't always easy to take, but it sure doesn't need to be confused with ridicule.

[AestheticDeath]

Criticism is the activity of judgement or informed interpretation. In literary and academic contexts, the term most frequently refers to literary criticism, art criticism, or other such fields, and to scholars' attempts to understand the aesthetic object in depth. In these contexts the term "critic", used without qualification, most frequently refers to a scholar of literature or another art form. In other contexts, the term describes hostility or disagreement with the object of criticism. Sometimes context, and the contentiousness of the subject, are the only differentiating factors between these two approaches. In politics, for instance (as in the phrase "criticism of U.S. foreign policy"), criticism almost exclusively refers to disagreement - while in an academic, artistic, or literary context (as in "criticism of Romantic poetry") it usually refers to the activity of subtle interpretation or analysis.

Constructive criticism is the process of offering valid and well-reasoned opinions about the work of others with the intention of helping the reader or the artist, rather than creating an oppositional attitude. An art critic can also be a champion of a new artistic movement in the face of a hostile public (e.g. John Ruskin), using scholarship and insight to show the value and depth of a new style. Critics might even champion a wholly new art medium; for instance the century-long critical struggle to have photography recognised as a valid art form.

There can be a tension between constructive and useful criticism; for instance, a critic might usefully help an individual artist to recognise what is poor or slapdash in their body of work - but the critic may have to appear harsh and judgemental in order to achieve this.


ridicule (uncountable)

Singular
ridicule


Plural
uncountable

1. derision; mocking or humiliating words or behaviour


I think the way some people comment on things can very easily be misconstrued. And sometimes the way we see things isn't always wrong. IE, some people are just assholes, and they do use ridicule. I guess it could be to make them feel better about themselves.

[Ignot]

Aesthetic....you have way to much free time.

[Back]

Whas all'er prollems, eh? S'possin t'man juss wantsta speak 'is min! Blargh, me alightly! Yer all gotsyer heads up yer arses!

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

Whas all'er prollems, eh? S'possin t'man juss wantsta speak 'is min! Blargh, me alightly! Yer all gotsyer heads up yer arses!


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