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Satira
07-26-2006, 09:31 PM
I have a bard who I've had on the harp for a couple weeks now. She can't get past apprentice. One of my friends told me you have to vary your style of play to advance more. Is that true? And is there anything else I should know besides that?

Suppa Hobbit Mage
07-26-2006, 09:41 PM
I used to run this when I was resting down, it seemed to work well enough for me. No idea how it works in GS4



# Play instrument
# Rev 2.1 http://xygon.digitalrice.com
# 10/14/2002 - two stringed instr fixes
# 09/22/2002 - all instruments and trap included

if_1 goto %1
goto InsList
## Basic explanation: Soft Fast and Slow are only options for percussion
## 0 counter set for instruments, 1 for percussion ...
soft:
put play %s soft
goto songend
fast:
put play %s fast
goto songend
slow:
put play %s slow
goto songend
0somber:
put play %s somber
goto songend
0mournful:
put play %s mournful
goto songend
0intense:
put play %s intense
goto songend
0inspiring:
put play %s inspiring
goto songend
0joyful:
put play %s joyful
goto songend
0jaunty:
put play %s jaunty
goto songend
0flamboyant:
put play %s flamboyant
goto songend
0aimless:
put play %s aimless
goto songend
# Closing sounds
songend:
match random silencing your
match random lower your
match random lowering your
match random lower the
match random look up from
match random silence left
match random hand over your
match random silence.
match random final breath,
match random last chords
match random silent.
match random still the strings
match random fade into nothing.
match random to a close.
match random one last chord
match random cease your
match random to an end.
match random end your song.
match random to your side.
match random to your sides.
match random ends with an
match random last sonorous chord
match random still the reverberations
match random to a close
match random intricate finale
match random one last flurry
match random last quiet chord
match random hands to drop
match random drop your hands
match trap Your songs renew.
match trap Your song renews.
# Non-bards or faster trap method :: Uncomment next line
# match trap full magical power
matchwait

# Percussion redirects
1intense:
1jaunty:
1aimless:
goto fast
1somber:
1inspiring:
1flamboyant:
goto soft
1joyful:
1mournful:
goto slow

tune:
# Play for a minute to roll time (Otherwise you tune, tune, tune...)
put play %s soft
pause 65
put stop playing
put tune my %s
wait
goto random

#Randomly choose which is next based on time
random:
# Non-bards, or quicker trap method :: Uncomment next line
# put infuse 1
put time
match %cjoyful :00
match %cmournful :01
match soft :02
match fast :03
match slow :04
match %cintense :05
match %cjaunty :06
match tune :07
match %caimless :08
match %csomber :09
match %cinspiring :10
match %cjoyful :11
match %cmournful :12
match soft :13
match fast :14
match slow :15
match %cintense :16
match %cjaunty :17
match %cflamboyant :18
match %caimless :19
match %csomber :20
match %cinspiring :21
match tune :22
match %cmournful :23
match soft :24
match fast :25
match slow :26
match %cintense :27
match %cjaunty :28
match %cflamboyant :29
match timenext by the elven time standard.
matchwait
timenext:
put time
match %caimless :30
match %csomber :31
match %cinspiring :32
match %cjoyful :33
match %cmournful :34
match soft :35
match fast :36
match slow :37
match %cintense :38
match %cjaunty :39
match %cflamboyant :40
match %caimless :41
match %csomber :42
match %cinspiring :43
match %cjoyful :44
match %cmournful :45
match soft :46
match fast :47
match tune :48
match %cintense :49
match %cjaunty :50
match %cflamboyant :51
match %caimless :52
match %csomber :53
match %cinspiring :54
match %cjoyful :55
match tune :56
match soft :57
match fast :58
match slow :59
match tune :00
matchwait

#############################
## Begin Instrument Section
InsList:
labelError:
echo ## You much choose a valid instrument: syntax - .play <instrument> ##
echo ##
echo ## Included instruments:
echo ## Cittern, Lute, Mandolin, Theorbo
echo ## Tabor, Tamorine, Typani, Cymbals
echo ## Fife, Flute, Piccolo
echo ## Dulcimer, Harp, Lyre, Psaltery, Zither
echo ## Coronett, Crumhorn, Lysard
echo ##
exit
## Strings
ha:
har:
harp:
save harp
counter set 0
goto random
du:
dul:
dulc:
dulci:
dulcim:
dulcime:
dulcimer:
save dulcimer
counter set 0
goto random
lyr:
lyre:
save lyre
counter set 0
goto random
ps:
psa:
psal:
psalt:
psalte:
psalter:
psaltery:
save psaltery
counter set 0
goto random
zi:
zit:
zith:
zithe:
zither:
save zither
counter set 0
goto random
## Percussion
cy:
cym:
cymb:
cymba:
cymbal:
cymbals:
save cymbals
counter set 1
goto random
ta:
echo ## Ambiguous instrument - Please type longer name
tab:
tabo:
tabor:
save tabor
counter set 1
goto random
tam:
tamo:
tamor:
tamori:
tamorin:
tamorine:
save tamorine
counter set 1
goto random
ty:
typ:
typa:
typan:
typani:
save typani
counter set 1
goto random
## Woodwinds
fl:
flu:
flut:
flute:
save flute
counter set 0
goto random
fi:
fif:
fife:
save fife
counter set 0
goto random
pi:
pic:
picc:
picco:
piccol:
piccolo:
save piccolo
counter set 0
goto random
## Horns
cr:
cru:
crum:
crumh:
crumho:
crumhor:
crumhorn:
save crumhorn
counter set 0
goto random
co:
cor:
coro:
coron:
corone:
coronet:
coronett:
save coronett
counter set 0
goto random
ly:
echo ## Ambiguous - please enter longer name ##
exit
lys:
lysa:
lysar:
lysard:
save lysard
counter set 0
goto random
## Pipes
ba:
bag:
bagp:
bagpi:
bagpip:
bagpipe:
bagpipes:
save bagpipes
counter set 0
goto random
## Necked Strings
ci:
cit:
citt:
citte:
citter:
cittern:
save cittern
counter set 0
goto random
lu:
lut:
lute:
save lute
counter set 0
goto random
th:
the:
theo:
theor:
theorb:
theorbo:
save theorbo
counter set 0
goto random

ma:
man:
mand:
mando:
mandol:
mandoli:
mandolin:
save mandolin
counter set 0
goto random

trap:
# May have encountered problem... handling
# If renew occurs again, restart
# Non-bards or faster trap method :: uncomment next line
# put infuse 1
match random silencing your
match random lower your
match random lowering your
match random lower the
match random look up from
match random silence left
match random hand over your
match random silence.
match random final breath,
match random last chords
match random silent.
match random still the strings
match random fade into nothing.
match random to a close.
match random one last chord
match random cease your
match random to an end.
match random end your song.
match random to your side.
match random ends with an
match random Your songs renew.
match random Your song renews.
# Non-bards or faster trap method :: Uncomment next line
# match random full magical power
matchwait

Aaysia
07-26-2006, 09:56 PM
I have a bard who I've had on the harp for a couple weeks now. She can't get past apprentice. One of my friends told me you have to vary your style of play to advance more. Is that true? And is there anything else I should know besides that?

I've had the same issue.. but my bard has been playing her instruments for like, years without mastering. I don't play religiously every time after she hunts, but it's enough to wonder wtf!

Satira
07-26-2006, 09:57 PM
That's another thing. Do you have to be absorbing EXP to advance? I had about 3 or 4 people tell me that you didn't.

Aaysia
07-26-2006, 10:00 PM
I don't think so.. probably half the time I played she had an empty mind and she advanced. She just hasn't mastered.

Snapp
07-26-2006, 10:02 PM
It took me years to advance to Adept (got it last week). The last few months, I played after every single hunt from fried to clear. So it's possible absorbing exp does have something to do with it? I really have no clue. I also used to vary up my styles.

I do have a question though.. Once you hit Adept, is there any more advancing? Like more messaging or anything?

AestheticDeath
07-26-2006, 10:19 PM
not sure why it wasnt posted, thought i hit post after typin it out, but I had tried to post... that i think there are grades of instruments, so you need a better one to master?

Shari
07-26-2006, 10:21 PM
That script works really well. However, you have to watch it. There is some messaging with the harp that isn't in it and you will need to add it or it will stick.


Oh, and this may or may not be true, but I DID hear that the harp is one of the longest to master in game. Not sure why, and it could be hearsay, but thought I'd share.

AestheticDeath
07-26-2006, 10:22 PM
i wouldnt be surprised if crowds factored into it too

Suppa Hobbit Mage
07-26-2006, 10:25 PM
My in game wife's play skills... I'll have to ask her how long it took her. We have 3 master instruments I think though, if that is a factor.

You are an Adept player of woodwind instruments.
You are an Adept player of necked stringed instruments.
Your current skill level in stringed instruments is Apprentice.
Your current skill level in percussion instruments is Journeyman.
Your current skill level in horn-type instruments is Apprentice.
Your current skill level in pipes is Novice.

Back
07-26-2006, 10:29 PM
i wouldnt be surprised if crowds factored into it too

They do.

Satira
07-26-2006, 10:30 PM
Hopefully the script won't stick because I'm a script moron and I won't know what to do with it. We'll see.

I'm mostly concerned about having to have my head full while I'm playing to advance...

I just read something that said crowds didn't matter...

Back
07-26-2006, 10:38 PM
I just read something that said crowds didn't matter...

It may have changed, but I’m pretty sure when instruments came out that it did matter. Ask Soulpieced.

Amaron
07-26-2006, 10:41 PM
Make sure your instrument is tuned.

J

Fallen
07-26-2006, 11:19 PM
Someone should write a script that auto squelches all instruments, much like those scripts that add all of the merchants to your highlights list.

AestheticDeath
07-26-2006, 11:33 PM
Can you squelch instruments? or guild reps for that matter... ugh

Kierke
07-26-2006, 11:36 PM
Having a Master class instrument doesn't impact upon your ability to hit Adept level. You can hit Adept with a basic, off-the-shelf instrument. However, if you have a Master class instrument, and you're Adept level, you get one extra message per style, per instrument type. These messages are only available if you're both Adept and have a Master instrument.

I hope that helps.

Meghan/Sadryne

Satira
07-27-2006, 12:11 AM
Right, but do you need to have a head-full of experience to advance from apprentice to adept?

Or is there anything else tricky in there like having to alternative your play style?

Kierke
07-27-2006, 12:21 AM
I do alternate my play style, so I don't know if that impacts upon it or not. I don't always do it with a full head though, and have managed to advance.

M.

Back
07-27-2006, 12:28 AM
Its a completely separate thing.

Bards will do better by class than any other profession.

TheEschaton
07-27-2006, 01:12 AM
I mastered (IE, got to Adept) the limit of playing styles with my bard (is it three? or two?) within 2 weeks playing off-the-shelf instruments - without even hunting, and just sitting by myself at a table.

Not sure I even tuned the instruments, but I did alternate through the playing styles.

-TheE-

StrayRogue
07-27-2006, 04:13 AM
They do.

They do not. And they have not done since they were available for anyone to play (over 8 years).

Merzbow
07-28-2006, 03:27 PM
I'm clueless about bards and want to learn. What use is it playing instruments? Does it give you get some kind of mechanical advantage or strictly RP?

Soulpieced
07-28-2006, 04:48 PM
Bottom line, playing style does not matter, audience size does not matter. I believe level is a factor, as I mastered bagpipes in about 2 weeks of playing (a lot).

You are an Adept player of woodwind instruments.
You are an Adept player of necked stringed instruments.
You are an Adept player of stringed instruments.
You are an Adept player of percussion instruments.
You are an Adept player of horn-type instruments.
You are an Adept player of pipe instruments.

Back
07-28-2006, 05:16 PM
Doh, I was wrong. Could have sworn Lyradyn (SP?) said audience would be a factor when they were released. My bad

StrayRogue
07-28-2006, 05:19 PM
Lyredaen says, "And no, you do not have to practice in the presence of others in order to learn the craft."

Elvenlady
07-31-2006, 03:41 PM
You are an Adept player of woodwind instruments.
You are an Adept player of necked stringed instruments.
You are an Adept player of stringed instruments.
You are an Adept player of percussion instruments.
You are an Adept player of horn-type instruments.

Took my bard less than a year and it got easier the higher her level. Have yet to do pipes though, can't ever see her playing bagpipes so not too bothered.

And yes, you still gain ranks with an empty head and sitting alone but I have been told that making sure you play all styles does help, as does tuning.

Playing an instrument at adept level plays a factor in the effectiveness of some Bardsongs. Sonic Disruption and Holding Song are two and I've been told Travelling Song as well.

Now to find a master instrument!

TheEschaton
07-31-2006, 03:59 PM
I thought you could only be an Adept of three styles at a time?

-TheE-

StrayRogue
07-31-2006, 04:01 PM
You're probably thinking of crafting.

Beguiler
08-25-2006, 12:50 PM
How do you tune your instrument? And how often is a good rule of thumb?