Philosilan, the great roleplayer.

[Shari]

You ask, "Could someone open this?"
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You tap a sturdy modwir strongbox in the red Philosilan disk.
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Philosilan just closed the red Philosilan disk.
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>tap my strong
You tap a rotting maoral strongbox, which is in your left hand.
>grumble
You grumble.
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Philosilan stares at you.
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Philosilan scoffs.
>look philo
You see Philosilan Van'Terdergen.
He appears to be a Half-Elf from Ta'Illistim.
He appears to be as old as the hills and average height. He has watery blue-grey eyes and tanned skin. He has long, white hair with grey at the temples. He has a weathered face and slightly pointed ears.
He has a simple platinum stud in his left eyebrow, a a stubby-necked black oak pipe clenched between his teeth, a blue star tattoo on his wrist, and a moon and stars tattoo on his neck.
He is in good shape.
He is wearing some elven tracking boots, some dark suede trousers, a black rolaren mesh sack, an enruned veniom flask, a spell components case made from a star-etched monkey skull, a silver-traced black diamond wristlet, a black silk shirt with silver-buttoned cuffs, a silver monkey charm, some soft black casting leathers, a rune-trimmed wizard's cloak, a veniom-edged black leather staff harness, a sleek shadowy crystal pendant, a twisted black mithril chain, some gold half-frame spectacles, a moon and star-embroidered black silk wizard's hat, and a gold ring.
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Zimzum snickers.
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Zimzum nods to Flandre.
>'::philo Oh calm down.
Speaking to Philosilan, you say, "Oh calm down."
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Speaking to you, Philosilan says, "Hush ."
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Flandre just left.
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Zimzum darkly says, "Jesae is a crafty one."
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Speaking to you, Philosilan says, "Don't tell me to calm down."
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Speaking to you, Philosilan says, "Best respect yer elders."
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>'You know, just because you're a half-breed does not mean you have to be bitter to the world.
You say, "You know, just because you're a half-breed does not mean you have to be bitter to the world."
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Speaking to you, Philosilan says, "I suggest you keep yer comments to yerself."
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>'Then stop whining like an old woman.
Silvendar works his way out of a pyrothag hide brigandine armor.
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You say, "Then stop whining like an old woman."
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Philosilan squints.
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Philosilan traces a simple rune while intoning a short, mystical phrase...
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Philosilan gestures at you.
CS: +466 - TD: +183 + CvA: +25 + d100: +59 - -5 == +372
Warding failed!
Philosilan blasts you for 74 points of damage.
... 50 points of damage!
Immense electrical bolt finds left eye the perfect conductor to ground out in. A shocking death indeed.
The glowing specks of energy surrounding you suddenly shoot off in all directions, then quickly fade away.
The bright luminescence fades from around you.
The brilliant luminescence fades from around you.
You feel your extra magical awareness leave you.
The silvery luminescence fades from around you.
You no longer bristle with energy.
You return to normal color.
You become solid again.
The shimmering multicolored sphere fades from around you.

It seems you have died, my friend. Although you cannot do anything, you are keenly aware of what is going on around you...

You mentally give a sigh of relief as you remember that the Goddess Lorminstra owes you a favor.

...departing in 10 mins...
(If you wish to dismiss this murder charge, use ACCUSE DISMISS Philosilan.)

A passing elf lopes off exclaiming, "Philosilan has committed murder!"

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* Jesae just bit the dust!
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Drakam says, "Ouch."
>

A number of guardsmen haughtily strut in, led by the Guard Captain.

With great ease, the Guard Captain grabs Philosilan and shackles his wrists.

"I have you now! You best come along quietly, or you'll face the consequences," says the Guard Captain.
The Guard Captain then drags him off.

>'Wow, how very mature of you.
You say, "Wow, how very mature of you."
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Silvendar chuckles.
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Meyhymm chuckles.
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Auriolus removes an engraved thanot strongbox from on a richly finished wooden bench.
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Meyhymm sits up.
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Isolt raises a hand while murmuring a soft orison...
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Isolt gestures at you.
You feel a tingle on your soul, as if a powerful hand is gently cradling it.
(Thy soul is bound to thy body for an extra 13 minutes and 30 seconds.)
>'Thank you.
You say, "Thank you."
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Cadiva asks, "Why did they do that?"
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Isolt whispers, "Be a sec..but I'll get you back up."
Cadiva whispers, "Why they kill you?"
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>'He did it because very small brains know no other way.
You say, "He did it because very small brains know no other way."
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Speaking to you, Silvendar says, "All things aren't settled by words."
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Auriolus just opened a faded black leather toolkit clasped with a war griffin talon.
>whisper cadiva I accidentally pointed at his box, when it was mine I want opened and he got all hissy, so I smartmouthed back and he killed me.
Silvendar smiles.
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You quietly whisper to Cadiva, "I accidentally pointed at his box, when it was mine I want opened and he got all hissy, so I smartmouthed back and he killed me."
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>'That is clearly obvious, but it is the witless way out.
You say, "That is clearly obvious, but it is the witless way out."
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Silvendar says, "Perhaps your own diplomacy needs a bit of work."
>look silven
You see Silvendar Sallalrond the Forest Warden.
He appears to be a Half-Elf from Bourth.
He appears to be young and tall. He has cold crystal blue eyes and tanned skin. He has shoulder length, wavy sable hair ending in deep ebon tips. He has a ruggedly chiseled face accented with shadowy stubble.
He is in good shape.
He is wearing a crystal amulet, a sable leather longcloak clasped at the neck by a single bloodjewel, some carved firestone cufflinks dusted with moon opals, a carved ivory hunting horn, a forest green leather pack, a sleek leather huntmaster's bracer, a leather pouch, a roomy black leather satchel fastened by a length of preserved hemlock root, a pair of dark green cotton pants, some polished deep black boots, a silver-brushed pale green buckler etched with twining leaves, a pyrothag hide brigandine armor, and an onyx-eyed white badger clasp.
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>'Perhaps he shouldn't have been so uppity about me accidently pointing to one of his boxes.
You say, "Perhaps he shouldn't have been so uppity about me accidently pointing to one of his boxes."
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Silvendar asks, "He killed you because you pointed at a box?"
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Silvendar laughs!
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>'That he did.
You say, "That he did."
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Silvendar says, "Alright perhaps you have a point."
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Silvendar chuckles to himself.
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You say, "I usually do."
>chuckle
You give a ghostly chuckle.

[Asha]

= Atreau.

[Makkah]

!= Atreau

[Kuyuk]

Haha.


I love it when people kill other people.


K.

[Sean of the Thread]

Speaking to you, Philosilan says, "Best respect yer elders."

Such stupid bullshit. I'd normally say "Best mind your business" but that respect your elder bullshit usually earns a focused 720 to knock them off their elder stool.

[Artha]

WoW > This.

[FinisWolf]

My wizard would not think twice about you pointing at his box by mistake.

On the other hand, he would kill for the disrespect, or die trying.

Naturally it would have never even got to that point, seeing as my wizard would not trip on a mistaken POINT.

:shrug:

Finis

[Shari]

EXACTLY, Finis.

Jesae is usually one of the least racist person in the game, she gets along with everyone. But if you're going to go apeshit about something retarded like that, she's going to shred you.

Sadly, there is no way for her to even touch him.

[Kuyuk]

There's always a way.


K.

[FinisWolf]

There is an IG assassin guild ...

If you want info give me a holler in PM's or via AIM. Of course I am sure there are probably a dozen folks here on these boards that would be willing to help you for free.

Only other suggestion, powerhunt your ass off so you can pwn him on your own.

Best of Luck ...

Finis

P.S.~ I have been seeing Jesae on the dais, she seems like a nice girl, other then that idiot dolt that keeps following you around that hunts orcsworld, of course thats not Jesae's fault. ;-)

[Kainen]

While he was a jackass about it and got mad over something stupid, if you get mouthy with someone who can kill you, you have to expect that they might do just that. I am not saying he is a great RPer or ANYTHING like that. I have been in similar situations where someone got mouthy with my char and she's killed em instead of standing there "trading witty banter". You DID insult him more than once and for some people that's all it would take. Some people RP intolerant people, some RP racists (not saying you are either) and some RP people who kill for no more reason than someone else insulted them more than once. Again, I am NOT saying that he was doing a good job roleplaying or that I am defending him, just my own opinion.

[FinisWolf]

I think she understands that, and probably expected that was a possible end to their interaction. I think she only posted because of the idiot reson he decided to cop a tude.

Finis

<<One of those people that play a character that is intolerant of idiocy, and disrespect.>>

[Urinal Poops]

There is an IG assassin guild ...

I hope it's not like the person who "assassinated" Leash without any roleplay. I believe he died twice, then went off to a corner to urinate himself. I alwaysd make it a point for it to get personal before I do something lame like other peoples bidding. [In no way am I condoning his actions, but I have been on that end of the stick before]

[Olanan]

P.S.~ I have been seeing Jesae on the dais, she seems like a nice girl, other then that idiot dolt that keeps following you around that hunts orcsworld, of course thats not Jesae's fault. ;-)

:fu:

[Amber]

Actually, from the RP perspective, I can certainly understand him killing you. The way I see it, you touched his box, which I know was a mechanics issue rather than an intentional action, he stared at you, you insulted him, he killed you. I know you disliked his staring at you for the mechanics issue, but I do think that it's not OOC for someone to respond the way he did.

[Bobmuhthol]

<<While he was a jackass about it and got mad over something stupid, if you get mouthy with someone who can kill you, you have to expect that they might do just that.>>

Check the PvP policy, plz.

[Skirmisher]

Actually, from the RP perspective, I can certainly understand him killing you. The way I see it, you touched his box, which I know was a mechanics issue rather than an intentional action, he stared at you, you insulted him, he killed you. I know you disliked his staring at you for the mechanics issue, but I do think that it's not OOC for someone to respond the way he did.


If you agree that it was obviously a mechanics issue that caused her to point to the waste of flesh's box then it would seem to follow that his getting all fired up over it and then showing off his e penis/cs in such a lame manner would in fact be OOC .

[Shari]

First, I didn't touch his box, I pointed at it. Second, I knew there was a possiblity I would die. I don't care about that, I was merely trying to show off his stellar roleplay. And yes, I am aware that there are crazy fucking people that WOULD flip their lid on something retarded like that in an IC manner. Its just funny to me, that instead of trying to get some interaction going, he'd rather show off the size of his peepee.

Oh and third...Olanan, that's YOU!?!

[Shari]

she seems like a nice girl....

You haven't been haning out on the dais for long enough then.

I know I play her as a total instigator, but I don't think I've EVER physically attacked someone because I couldn't keep up with a verbal argument.

[Stunseed]

Hell, Stunseed told her to fetch his sandwich TWICE. Jesae is sharp-witted, but not prone to violence.

[Amber]

Of course I don't know what was going on in his mind, but I viewed his killing her as a result of her insults, not her touching the box. I think in view of the insults, an attack was kinda to be expected. Not the best roleplaying on his part, but I don't see why there was a need for the insults either.

[Shari]

Speaking to Philosilan, you say, "Oh calm down."
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Speaking to you, Philosilan says, "Hush ."
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Speaking to you, Philosilan says, "Don't tell me to calm down."
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Speaking to you, Philosilan says, "Best respect yer elders."

THAT would be while the insults insued.

[Makkah]

Someone said that to my n00b today. Big fucking deal. Shake it off and play your game.

[Amber]

First, I didn't touch his box, I pointed at it.



You ask, "Could someone open this?"
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You tap a sturdy modwir strongbox in the red Philosilan disk.


You tapped it, actually, but that's minor.

I can think of a few ways to react to a box in a disk being tapped, but in my opinion, closing the disk and staring at you aren't unreasonable actions. I'd probably have either ignored it, knowing it was a mechanics issue, or done the same.

[Shari]

To each their own I guess.

[FinisWolf]

I hope it's not like the person who "assassinated" Leash without any roleplay. I believe he died twice, then went off to a corner to urinate himself. I always make it a point for it to get personal before I do something lame like other peoples bidding. [In no way am I condoning his actions, but I have been on that end of the stick before]

You know, to be honest, I have no idea. I know that when I had chars that I RP'd as taking contracts, they always instigated a fight in order to finish the contract.


:fu:

Glad you know who you are.


Check the PvP policy, plz.

I would hope that it is CvC, seeing as PvP in and of itself is OOC and has no place in the gaming environment.


waste of flesh

Hey! That's my term for an old hag in Mule! LOL


Oh and third...Olanan, that's YOU!?!

Yup, you hit that nail right on the head! :lol:


You haven't been haning out on the dais for long enough then.

I know I play her as a total instigator, but I don't think I've EVER physically attacked someone because I couldn't keep up with a verbal argument.

No, I have not been around the dais alot, but enough to watch things move around.

See, now I disagree with you. You are in a genre and an era that determines our actions (if one is truly going to RP our world). Sure, he was an asshat, but your characters mouth got the best of her. He warned you a couple times for your disrespect (not that I agree with that respect your elders crap), and your char got toasted. -- To say it is because he couldn't keep up with the a facade of throwing verbal insults just does not work for me. You don't disrespect someone in this era/genre and then expect them to pal up with you and toss insults. Quite the opposite in my opinion, you should be expecting a CvC interaction, anything else is yellow, and a dishonor to the two individuals involved. >>Again, this is my opinion, and I am simply sharing how I feel it should be.<<

With one of my chars, he lives by his motto of, "By your death or mine, this shall end here." And he means just that. A single death for whatever the infraction may be. To bad so many folks can not abide by that, but I do my best to maintain that. As there are some that return after you allow them to walk in the shadows of deaths dark embrace. It is those folks that this char will do his best to immobilize them in some fashion and ignore them.

On the other hand, there are chars like Finis that will do their best to talk you down from your stressed position, but will eventually get talked into a corner and say the hell of it and shorten ones life expectancy.

I guess it's just a matter of who you butt heads with. But by no means does it mean that someone can't play the toss the insults game. With some chars, it is simply a choice of the player how that character reacts. And to me, as long as that particular quirk is maintained it's ok.

Ok, enough hot air outta my fingers. :lol:

In any event, I hope it was all good and fun. You tossed insults, he tossed a spell. he was in fact insulted, and you ended up dead. :shrug: Just a matter of how you wish to enjoy your game I guess.

Finis

[Olanan]

Oh and third...Olanan, that's YOU!?!

Shock!



Glad you know who you are.

He's an idiot by roleplay. Wonder who you are.

[StrayRogue]

Atreau truly is an idiot.

[Parkbandit]

Atreau truly is an idiot.

QFT

Don't mistake roleplaying with rollplaying because that really is all people like this are capable of.

[TheEschaton]

One of my characters would of immobilized you outright for touching his property, closing of the disk and staring straight out skipped.

Of course, he's always tried to be touchy about personal space and possessions, and normally, while immobilized, he would lecture you on the merits of keeping one's hands to oneself....but even though I as a player know it's a mechanics issue, my (particular) character can't ignore the fact that you a) touched my stuff, and b) furthermore said it should be opened, insinuating you wanted to take what was in the box.

And if you had mouthed off to him, he'd just laugh...but if you touched him (not that you can, really, with demeanor changes), he'd (try and) destroy you.

Now....I don't know Philosan, but is he known for being touchy about his possessions? Maybe a greedy, hoarding type? If so - his character is justified. If not, yes, then he's just hoping to show how tiny his penis is.

-TheE-

[StrayRogue]

Philosilan does not roleplay.

[GuildRat]

Rule of thumb...don't let your great dane mouth over run your chihuahua ass...

[Sean of the Thread]

Now....I don't know Philosan, but is he known for being touchy about his possessions? Maybe a greedy, hoarding type? If so - his character is justified. If not, yes, then he's just hoping to show how tiny his penis is.

-TheE-

Atreu is known as one of the biggest tards in GS next to Warclaidhm and some puff named Tayre

[Wezas]

People cast quickly when they have no wit to respond with.

[GuildRat]

People cast quickly when they have no wit to respond with.

Unfortunately, people also open their mouths before they realize that their foot will fit in, and then some, also.

[Kainen]

People cast quickly when they have no wit to respond with.

I call bullshit on that. There are sometimes when you just don't feel like your char would make anymore effort to respond than to prep/cast a spell or swing a weapon. In my own case.. I don't feel that my char would sit around and trade witty insults with everyone that decided they had a problem with her.

[Wezas]

Then cast silence/sleep/etc.

Person A is a prick to person B who made an honest mistake
Person B says "WTF Honky?"
Person A blows person B into a bazillion pieces.

But I guess sleep/silence is just what I would do. Only people who would get killed instantly without much interaction is thieves I catch.

[GuildRat]

I'm sorry, if someone were to call me half-breed, and I didn't know them or of them, I may just take offense and off them.

[GuildRat]

I call bullshit on that. There are sometimes when you just don't feel like your char would make anymore effort to respond than to prep/cast a spell or swing a weapon. In my own case.. I don't feel that my char would sit around and trade witty insults with everyone that decided they had a problem with her.


Agreed, death speaks louder than words most times. And unfortunately, in GS, we can't silence the dead.

[Shari]

All good points. And damn I wish we could silence the dead. :(

[FinisWolf]

He's an idiot by roleplay. Wonder who you are.

I am no one.

Finis

[Shalla]

Everybody has their own way of dealing with things. I'm not surprised that philosilan chose to kill her. However, just because he saw it fit to kill her does not make it a bad roleplay.

It's ironic that Jesae said "calm down" when she was the one who grumbled, seemed like in a bad mood and insulted him twice. All I saw him do is stare at her for what it seem like her asking his box to be opened and scoffed. He could've just ignored it because it's an OOC mistake, but he's philosilan. Psycho philosilan + Mouthy jesae = Someone is getting pwned. She then said "how very mature of you" I don't see how insulting someone's race and masculinity in an arguement is considered mature. If you did that to someone in RL. You will be beaten up. In GS, killed.

It's not the epitome of awesome roleplay but I don't see how it could get any better. It's an ooc mistake tapping the wrong box. For them to roleplay it further by insulting each other left and right when they don't even know each other would blow it out of proportion all because of a stupid box.

[Lassiter 506]

"Everybody has their own way of dealing with things. I'm not surprised that philosilan chose to kill her. However, just because he saw it fit to kill her does not make it a bad roleplay."

I play a gnome, who sits on the fountain and does not move. He does not eat, and subsequently does not shit. He does not drink, yet amazing carries on. He does not speak, yet moves only when a specific person requires healing. This is not bad roleplay, because he was consistant, and that is his way of dealing with existence... ?

You must be joking.

Good rp comes in all forms. that was not one of them. Insults are not always consent to initiate an ass pounding. if the point still eludes you, please read CvC policy.That is where the person you are defending lacks maturity, and why he isn't worth interacting with.

[StrayRogue]

I imagine she is just friends with the dick.

[Asha]

:rofl: @ friends with the dick.

[Shalla]

I play a gnome, who sits on the fountain and does not move. He does not eat, and subsequently does not shit. He does not drink, yet amazing carries on. He does not speak, yet moves only when a specific person requires healing. This is not bad roleplay, because he was consistant, and that is his way of dealing with existence... ?

Is this a rhetorical question? How does it relate to how philosilan reacted exactly? You must be joking.




Good rp comes in all forms. that was not one of them.

Who said it was a good RP?



Insults are not always consent to initiate an ass pounding.

You are generalizing. Are you honestly saying that there aren't people out there who would completely snap over something as small as this? Or snap over being insulted racially and their masculinity questioned?



if the point still eludes you, please read CvC policy.That is where the person you are defending lacks maturity, and why he isn't worth interacting with.

Whether philosilan roleplayed or not. I have no way of knowing. Besides the fact that I was looking at it from a third party. If I didn't know philosilan does not roleplay. If i was a bystander and witnessed that. and these people are a complete stranger to me? It looked like 2 people arguing and one person snapped. All I'm saying is that there is no way for it to get any better roleplay.. not that it was ANY GOOD.. but it's a friggin box. As good a roleplayer Jesae is.. Philosilan isn't and there is no point to roleplay. The fact that it ended without completely going OOC is a good way to end this arguement.

I don't know where you're getting the idea that I said Philosilan is a great roleplayer, or that he's mature.

[Shalla]

I imagine she is just friends with the dick.

What is with you? Everytime someone plays neutral and happens to point out things from one that people generally doesn't like.. OMG OMG! they must be friends! I hate r too!

[Landrion]

"Everybody has their own way of dealing with things. I'm not surprised that philosilan chose to kill her. However, just because he saw it fit to kill her does not make it a bad roleplay."

I play a gnome, who sits on the fountain and does not move. He does not eat, and subsequently does not shit. He does not drink, yet amazing carries on. He does not speak, yet moves only when a specific person requires healing. This is not bad roleplay, because he was consistant, and that is his way of dealing with existence... ?

You must be joking.

Good rp comes in all forms. that was not one of them. Insults are not always consent to initiate an ass pounding. if the point still eludes you, please read CvC policy.That is where the person you are defending lacks maturity, and why he isn't worth interacting with.

So am I to understand that one is authorized to use force if and only if they RP well?

My understanding was that CvC was consensual. One can certainly debate that witty banter doesnt equate to consent. But I think thats a weak position to take. While many of us wouldnt drop someone for percieved disrespect, If you run your mouth at people who can hammer you, you should expect to get hammered.

Now if I were looking for witty banter and encountered a brute, as Lassiter 506 says, I would accept that such person shouldnt be interacted with. We all know warn interact is in bad odour from repeated abuse so I would probably handle it through whispers.

I just dont think insulting one party's RP settles anything. To me it comes off like, this guy lit me up, so Im going to mock on his rp. Over-reacted? Fine, Avoid him from now on? Fine.

[Makkah]

<<I've reread that 3 times and had to give up trying to figure out what you're meaning.>>

She's playing Devil's Advocate, and she makes some decent points.

[Shalla]

Maybe you need to read it a 4th time Shimmerain.

[Asha]

I just don't understand l33t i guess. Edited it out anyway, seeing though it's totally irrelevant.

I think Philosilan is showing off his mad skills to be honest. I've seen him do it before and this is the same old shit.

[StrayRogue]

There is enough evidence on these boards to point him out as being a dick. All the clever arguments and devil's advocacy aside won't prove otherwise.

[Shalla]

I wasn't trying to prove it otherwise. I was merely looking at it from a bystander point of view.. that at LEAST.. the encounter didn't turn out completely OOC.

I already know philosilan is a douche. I've encountered him and his little side kick more than once but just because Jesae is a regular poster here does not mean that I wouldn't point things out with how the character reacted and what would result from that. Not that there's anything wrong with how she reacted. But the player is mature enough to know the consequences of it.

[CrystalTears]

I've moved this to the roleplaying folder, as this is more about discussing roleplaying than anything else.

Gems is for good interactions and experiences, not sarcastically good ones. ;)

[CrystalTears]

Putting aside any idea of how he roleplays normally, I have zero problems with someone giving lip to an "elder" and that "elder" whacking that guy a good one.

Why all of a sudden these days it's wrong for someone to just put an arrow or sword in someone's eye for being insubordinate is beyond me. Hell I was used to just glancing at someone the wrong way and getting nuked. It was the time and how things were done.

All too often people have to put up with younger people mouthing off and thinking that they can get away with it, and frankly, they should pay for it. Did they deserve to get killed? Probably not. Were they asking for it? A-yep. I'm not a fan of being told "respect your elders" in this game, but there is a bit of truth to that. More like respect your elders ability to kick your ass if you're being crude.

[Skirmisher]

Everybody has their own way of dealing with things. I'm not surprised that philosilan chose to kill her. However, just because he saw it fit to kill her does not make it a bad roleplay.
...

It's not the epitome of awesome roleplay but I don't see how it could get any better. It's an ooc mistake tapping the wrong box. For them to roleplay it further by insulting each other left and right when they don't even know each other would blow it out of proportion all because of a stupid box.

Shalla, my take is that, while this taken on its own might not be the worlds worst thing for him to do, it follows a pattern of horrible behavior over an extended period of time from the individual in question.

So, while surely we can always go back and look at any one of those incidents and come up with a possible reason for why he was a dick that day in particular, when you look at the person and their history as a whole the end result is that he is just a dick.

[Kainen]

Why all of a sudden these days it's wrong for someone to just put an arrow or sword in someone's eye for being insubordinate is beyond me. Hell I was used to just glancing at someone the wrong way and getting nuked. It was the time and how things were done.


Because people are whiny. "Oh I didn't get to trade insults with your char to show how witty I am, so you suck at RP" is the basic idea. I agree with you, if you were smart.. you kept your mouth shut till you could defend yourself, if you didn't well, you lived with the results. Too many people try to hide behind the policy these days. Even now, if I get mouthy with someone who might be able to kill me, I accept the fact that is exactly what might happen.

[Aaysia]

I don't see the big deal. There are characters that would have blasted Jesae for 'mouthing off' just like Philosilan did. He could have been more of a dick and just blasted her as soon as she touched the box in his disk, THEN I would have agreed and been like "yeah what an ass".

[Artha]

I don't think blasting someone for mouthing off is a realistic reaction under any circumstances. Any good RP should be realistic in the context of Elanthia.

[Makkah]

<<I don't think blasting someone for mouthing off is a realistic reaction under any circumstances.>>

Be glad you didn't live 1000 years ago...

[Aaysia]

I don't think blasting someone for mouthing off is a realistic reaction under any circumstances. Any good RP should be realistic in the context of Elanthia.

Heh. And if I RP a disgruntled, trigger-happy character with no patience or tolerance for rudeness/disrespect etc... then the way I RP isn't 'good' by your standards? Mmk then.

(the above is just an example btw. I do have a grumpy old ranger gnome but he has waaay more patience than I display myself irl)

[Kainen]

I don't think blasting someone for mouthing off is a realistic reaction under any circumstances. Any good RP should be realistic in the context of Elanthia.

The hell it's not. You are going to tell me that in every society there are not people that resort to violence at the drop of a hat? Add the characture traits of , say, a sorcerer.. one who's spells mostly involve death and pain, or a cutthroat rogue, AND say also add a superiority complex and you have someone RIPE to use violence against someone who's mouthy. (that was an example and NOT directed at anyone.. especially my sorcerer) There are any number of reasons why someone in an RP situation would use violence instead of sit there and talk crap back and forth. Perhaps the characture had a bad day, maybe someone already annoyed them, maybe they are just psycho.. who knows. Just because you don't like the way someone RPs doesn't mean it's not a good way. (again I am not defending philosan) I think CT said it best when she said respect your elders' ability to kick your ass.

[StrayRogue]

I don't respect anyone who bought their power to show off with.

I don't think you're getting this Kainen. He wasn't roleplaying.

[Kainen]

I know he wasn't.. why do you think I KEEP including the phrase that I am not defending him? However.. sometimes my charactures and other peoples' charactures react with violence instead of trying to talk to people. THAT'S what I am defending.. not him.

[Artha]

You are going to tell me that in every society there are not people that resort to violence at the drop of a hat?
There's a difference between resorting to violence and murder.

Someone who kills people for minor slights could never function in any sort of society, realistically.

[Kainen]

Someone who kills people for minor slights could never function in any sort of society, realistically.

Actually, they couldn't TODAY but back then it was a differant story.

[Artha]

People can't get along when everybody kills everybody else over daily little disrespects. It's absolutely unproductive and everybody else in society frowns on such behavior. Even "back then". It's simply not a realistic reaction.

[RichardCranium]

You've obviously never been to prison.

[Artha]

If there were meaningful prisons in GS that'd be a really good argument.

[RichardCranium]

I wasn't presenting an arguement, I was making a joke. I sometimes come across wrong because I don't do smilies or emoticons. Sorry about that.

[Celephais]

There's a difference between resorting to violence and murder.

Someone who kills people for minor slights could never function in any sort of society, realistically.

Couldn't function in today's society.. you stated that they need to react appropriatly for the world they live in, as people have stated, 1000 years ago on earth people got away with killing people for slights... now imagine if it was a world where the people they killed could be brought back to life and no worse for wear a few hours later?

Yeah, death would be rampant.

[Artha]

1000 years ago the vast majority of people were serfs. From shortly before dusk till shortly after dawn they were working the fields. At other times they could be found doing their business in the streets, wearing one outfit for the majority of their adult lives and living in a crude hut, sleeping on the floor.

What they weren't doing was running around killing each other for looking at them askance.

[Alfster]

comparing gs to real life is amusingly retarded

[StrayRogue]

Agreed.

[Leetahkin]

Just my two cents for the moment.
If you know someone is a horrid rp'er and is trigger happy, why banter with them and not expect them to react as they always do?
It's sometimes a lot better to just walk away instead of trying to one-up an asshat.
:shrug:

[Landrion]

There's a difference between resorting to violence and murder.

Someone who kills people for minor slights could never function in any sort of society, realistically.

Gemstone death isnt the same as murder. Its more like knocking someone out in a fistfight. Sending someone demonic (when it existed) was more like murder.

There are far different penalties in our modern societies for a conflict that ends in a corpse than one where the victim is completely undamaged before the court date. By our standards Gemstone death would probably be a misdemeanor.

[Lassiter 506]

However.. sometimes my charactures and other peoples' charactures react with violence instead of trying to talk to people. THAT'S what I am defending

that is why CvC policy exists. the need to gratify your e-peen will, on occasion, need to be curbed.

[Shari]

Just my two cents for the moment.
If you know someone is a horrid rp'er and is trigger happy, why banter with them and not expect them to react as they always do?
It's sometimes a lot better to just walk away instead of trying to one-up an asshat.
:shrug:


To be honest, I had no idea the guy was an asshat. I could have sworn I remembered him being civil to my other characters but maybe I was thinking of someone else, or he was bought out.

[Artha]

Gemstone death isnt the same as murder. Its more like knocking someone out in a fistfight. Sending someone demonic (when it existed) was more like murder.

I agree. However, speaking from the point of view of someone immersed in the world, there's not much of a way to tell some random ho (jk!) at the well from a townsperson. I don't believe that regular people can be brought back to life, as evidenced by humanoid critters dieing permanently and the rare instances of GM controlled townspeople dieing and not being able to be resurrected. Also, lynchings followed by town banishment are the most severe form of punishment in the justice system, meaning death (even a quick, relatively painless one) is seen as more severe than being covered in hot tar and having feathers thrown on you.

[Ignot]

Maybe its cause im stoned but this whole thread is hilarious. It seemed like he was looking for a fight and when you tapped his box that was all he needed.

[Parkbandit]

To be honest, I had no idea the guy was an asshat. I could have sworn I remembered him being civil to my other characters but maybe I was thinking of someone else, or he was bought out.

He's been one of the games biggest assholes for a long time. Sad part is.. it's not a roleplay.