Pissed at my warrior.

[VorpalBlade]

First, I'm a 57th level warrior out hunting Pyros using a 8x falchion,6x damage padded plate, and a 9x shield. Standard sword and board warrior with decent amount of redux.

A.) I'am so damn fed up with having to wear wiz strength imbeds etc. and rub myself like I hadn't had sex in 5 years just so I can survive my hunts.
Begging my wiz friends for spells is also very unbecoming.In fact why the ?#?$#$ should a warrior need ANY magical help just so he can kill things near his level?

B.) (from above) And no you can't hunt out in the open and do as well as your hunting mates without spells, sorry folks. Me and a ranger partner had this discussion and it always ends up like this...

"Geez, man you're getting pounded"
"Yeah, I know I don't have any society or spells up."
"Hey man at least you guys can get into that plate the fastest thats a big help."
"Nope not anymore."
"Oh..."
"Yeah but you get bullrush man!"
"Yeah and you get ewave man!"
"Oh..."
"Well at least you guys get to train 3x in weapons"
"Heh, no we never had that ability"
"Oh..."
"Well what can you guys do?"

types in gld wtrick flip.

..long moment of silence...

"Dude, you rock man really."

C.) CMANs, this is the one godsend. But I've been playing around with
these and can perhaps get 8 cmans that can be consistently used in combat, every other cman from the stam costs are there for the sole purpose of flavoring (in my opinion). But to be frank, the cmans have helped but really I think they need a major expansion. It doesn't have to a lot either, just like 3 that are trully useful would be nice.

-Anyhow, it's just a sorry mess. I'am so bored of my warrior now that I just play my half wiz consistently. Really, it's a good profession, it just needs a ton of work.

[Bobmuhthol]

<<"Well at least you guys get to train 3x in weapons"
"Heh, no we never had that ability">>

I'm like 95% sure that warriors originally could 3x weapon skills.

[VorpalBlade]

When I played AOL GS III, back a long long time ago. They had this ability yes. So many GMs say they didn't but I remember we could. I have no idea why this was shrunk to 2x it just makes no sense that rangers,bards,rogues, what have you can be as effective with a blade as a freaking warrior....#(##($@ I'am so pissed right now. Just thinking about quiting.

[Bobmuhthol]

<<I have no idea why this was shrunk to 2x it just makes no sense that rangers,bards,rogues, what have you can be as effective with a blade as a freaking warrior....>>

In just about every good game ever, a warrior is not known for their ability to deal the most damage, but rogues are.

[Soulpieced]

When I rolled my first warrior character in August 1996, you could not 3x in any weapon skill.

[StrayRogue]

You must suck. I hunted Pyro's with 4x brig, and a 7x greatsword with great success. Never needed any spells.

[Meges]

Rolled my first warrior in July/August of 1995 and he could only 2x in weapons.


Meges

[Stanley Burrell]

What's killing you in the flows?

Pyros are absolutely blind. I was able to hide/ambush them as easy as cake with two or three in the same room at only 50 or so trains. I think I only wore double chains for the most part, with a moderate amount of dodging ranks. When ambushing, I was always cleaving off left arms/hands and would let them fumble with their clubs for a bit if I needed to take care of other stuff in the room.

I also completely avoided the west-most side of Flows. There be lava.

At the end of '95, I could only 2x in OHBs. And there was a white background with black letters. And I used to run around the kobold village with a mentor who said yeppers and nopers a lot. I think her name was Sindella.

...

For some reason though, I feel like I remember two or three other folks making the same claim about being able to 3x in weapons.

Maybe?

[StrayRogue]

I recall the white screen, black text. When I returned to GS, I was a bit shocked and unused to the format we all know today.

Plus yeah, avoid the lava. I seem to recall a point where you could climb. From there onwards there was no lava, just pryro's, skayls, wasps and thraks.

[Latrinsorm]

It's very possible for a warrior to hunt with no spells from 0 to 100, and do so quite well. Post a log of you hunting, and let's see what you're doing wrong.

[Drew]

Rangers don't get ewave.


Also, you could, at one point 3x in a weapon type, but not a weapon skill. So you could be 3x trained in broadswords.

[Danical]

I found the flows to be tremendously easy.

We need a log of what's going wrong so we can help, as Mr. Latrinesorm said.

[GSTamral]

When I played AOL GS III, back a long long time ago. They had this ability yes. So many GMs say they didn't but I remember we could. I have no idea why this was shrunk to 2x it just makes no sense that rangers,bards,rogues, what have you can be as effective with a blade as a freaking warrior....#(##($@ I'am so pissed right now. Just thinking about quiting.

Warriors could never triple in weapons. Nor could they ever triple in CM.
Not during AOL beta, not during genie, never. Warriors have always had the ability to triple in shield, armor, and physical training.

[StrayRogue]

Here me and a warrior, Methadun, tear up teras. He is the same level as me, using a basic 4x maul. I am using a 7x greatsword (I think). While it's not posted, we both get stunned a few times due to skayl's boil or the pyro maneuver. He instantly gets out of it by berserking while I flounder around with stun man. In fact we met because he accidently killed a critter of mine while under the effects of the red mist. But still, this is how "difficult" it was.

Methadun's shout encourages your fighting spirit!
>A cinder wasp just arrived.
A cinder wasp stabs at Methadun with its stinger!
Methadun evades the attack!
Methadun firmly says, "Up the hil."
Methadun firmly says, "Flows suck."
You parry the attack with your greatsword!
Methadun looks tense and ready for action.
Methadun gains a look of exceptional focus.
You are now in an offensive stance.
A cinder wasp stabs at Methadun with its stinger!
AS: +276 vs DS: +394 with AvD: +2 + d100 roll: +33 = -83
A clean miss.
A cinder wasp heads northwest.

The bandages on Methadun's left arm come loose and he begins to bleed again.
Methadun swings a zorchar-edged vultite mattock at a red-scaled thrak!
AS: +363 vs DS: +193 with AvD: +38 + d100 roll: +79 = +287
... and hits for 109 points of damage!
Mighty swing separates head from shoulders.
The red-scaled thrak falls back into a heap and dies.

A red-scaled thrak darts in.
A red-scaled thrak darts in.
A red-scaled thrak darts in.
A red-scaled thrak claws at you!
You evade the attack!
>A red-scaled thrak tries to bite Methadun!
AS: +278 vs DS: +257 with AvD: +7 + d100 roll: +23 = +51
A clean miss.

Methadun looks determined and focused.
In a breathtaking display of agility and combat mastery, Methadun whirls in a fury of unrelenting strikes and ripostes!
Methadun swings a zorchar-edged vultite mattock at a red-scaled thrak! A hit!
Weapon arm mangled horribly.
The red-scaled thrak is stunned!

** Methadun's vultite mattock emits a searing bolt of lightning! **
... 10 points of damage!
Heavy spark to left leg. The red-scaled thrak cringes in surprise.
Methadun swings a zorchar-edged vultite mattock at a red-scaled thrak! A hit!
Right leg mangled horribly.
The red-scaled thrak is knocked to the ground!
The red-scaled thrak is stunned!
>A red-scaled thrak tries to bite Methadun!
AS: +278 vs DS: +257 with AvD: +7 + d100 roll: +34 = +62
A clean miss.

You are now in an offensive stance.
You swing a curved steel-bladed greatsword at a red-scaled thrak!
AS: +350 vs DS: +181 with AvD: +38 + d100 roll: +51 = +258
... and hit for 139 points of damage!
Blow cracks a rib and punctures a lung.
Breathing becomes a challenge.
Roundtime: 5 sec.

A fissure opens in the ground and a massive pyrothag slowly climbs out before you!
A red-scaled thrak tries to bite Methadun!
AS: +278 vs DS: +257 with AvD: +7 + d100 roll: +85 = +113
... and hits for 3 points of damage!
Talk about a close shave!
Missed by a whisker.

Methadun swings a zorchar-edged vultite mattock at a massive pyrothag!
AS: +363 vs DS: +211 with AvD: +38 + d100 roll: +94 = +284
... and hits for 88 points of damage!
Blast to hand reduces it to pulp!
The massive pyrothag is stunned!

** Methadun's vultite mattock emits a searing bolt of lightning! **
... 25 points of damage!
Light shock to left arm. That stings!

You swing a curved steel-bladed greatsword at a red-scaled thrak!
AS: +350 vs DS: +139 with AvD: +38 + d100 roll: +53 = +302
... and hit for 116 points of damage!
Weapon arm mangled horribly.
Roundtime: 5 sec.

A massive pyrothag shrugs its massive shoulders and regains its senses again.
>A red-scaled thrak claws at you!
AS: +278 vs DS: +311 with AvD: +23 + d100 roll: +44 = +34
A clean miss.
A red-scaled thrak darts southwest.

A red-scaled thrak claws at Methadun!
Methadun evades the attack!

Methadun swings a zorchar-edged vultite mattock at a massive pyrothag!
AS: +363 vs DS: +204 with AvD: +38 + d100 roll: +58 = +255
... and hits for 91 points of damage!
Knocked back several feet by blow to abdomen.
The massive pyrothag is stunned!

You swing a curved steel-bladed greatsword at a massive pyrothag!
AS: +350 vs DS: +178 with AvD: +38 + d100 roll: +83 = +293
... and hit for 117 points of damage!
Left leg mangled horribly.

The massive pyrothag falls to the ground and lies still.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
A cinder wasp just arrived.

Methadun swings a zorchar-edged vultite mattock at a red-scaled thrak!
AS: +363 vs DS: +184 with AvD: +38 + d100 roll: +59 = +276
... and hits for 150 points of damage!
A mighty hit turns the red-scaled thrak's insides to outsides!
The red-scaled thrak falls back into a heap and dies.

You search the massive pyrothag.
It had a massive glaes club.
It didn't carry any silver.
It had nothing else of value.
A massive pyrothag quickly decomposes into a pile of sticky grey ash.

A cinder wasp stabs at you with its stinger!
You evade the attack!

A red-scaled thrak darts in.
You swing a curved steel-bladed greatsword at a cinder wasp!
AS: +350 vs DS: +227 with AvD: +42 + d100 roll: +57 = +222
... and hit for 76 points of damage!
Jagged slash to the cinder wasp's right arm!
Cut clean through at the wrist.
Need a hand?

The cinder wasp totally ignores its missing leg, attacking with complete concentration.
The cinder wasp is stunned!
Roundtime: 5 sec.

Methadun swings a zorchar-edged vultite mattock at a red-scaled thrak!
AS: +363 vs DS: +216 with AvD: +38 + d100 roll: +79 = +264
... and hits for 120 points of damage!
Crushing blow to the spine!
The red-scaled thrak slumps to the ground.
The red-scaled thrak is knocked to the ground!
The red-scaled thrak is stunned!

>A red-scaled thrak rears up on its hind legs, hissing and lashing its tail!

You swing a curved steel-bladed greatsword at a red-scaled thrak!
AS: +350 vs DS: +157 with AvD: +38 + d100 roll: +9 = +240
... and hit for 95 points of damage!
Whoosh! Several ribs driven into lungs.
Roundtime: 5 sec.


A red-scaled thrak claws at Methadun!
Methadun parries the attack with his mattock!

Methadun swings a zorchar-edged vultite mattock at a red-scaled thrak!
AS: +363 vs DS: +140 with AvD: +38 + d100 roll: +79 = +340
... and hits for 122 points of damage!
Hard hit shatters weapon arm.
The red-scaled thrak hisses one last time and dies.

You swing a curved steel-bladed greatsword at a cinder wasp!
AS: +350 vs DS: +198 with AvD: +42 + d100 roll: +68 = +262
... and hit for 111 points of damage!
Blow ruptures the stomach!
Roundtime: 5 sec.

A red-scaled thrak claws at Methadun!
Methadun evades the attack!

Methadun swings a zorchar-edged vultite mattock at a red-scaled thrak!
AS: +363 vs DS: +174 with AvD: +38 + d100 roll: +25 = +252
... and hits for 105 points of damage!
Brain driven into neck by mammoth downswing!
The red-scaled thrak falls back into a heap and dies.

You swing a curved steel-bladed greatsword at a cinder wasp!
AS: +350 vs DS: +191 with AvD: +42 + d100 roll: +73 = +274
... and hit for 157 points of damage!
Massive blow smashes through ribs and drives the cinder wasp's heart out the back.
The cinder wasp careens to the ground and crumples in a heap.
Roundtime: 5 sec.

Methadun's group just went northeast.

[Basalt Hillock, Plateau]
To the north, the hilltop levels into an expansive plateau. Bubbling lava pools dot the landscape, sending curling ribbons of smoke aloft like a skyline of belching chimneys over the rooftops of a town. In the distance, the blue of open sea can be seen, with its shimmering reflections and low-riding clouds. A large glaes formation on the south blocks the view in that direction. You also see a skayl, a cinder wasp, a cinder wasp and a cinder wasp.
Also here: Methadun
Obvious paths: north, southwest, west, northwest

Methadun drools.
Methadun swings a zorchar-edged vultite mattock at a skayl!
AS: +363 vs DS: +372 with AvD: +36 + d100 roll: +70 = +97
A clean miss.

A cinder wasp stabs at you with its stinger!
You evade the attack!
A cinder wasp stabs at Methadun with its stinger!
Methadun parries the attack with his mattock!

A cinder wasp stabs at Methadun with its stinger!
AS: +276 vs DS: +257 with AvD: +2 + d100 roll: +21 = +42
A clean miss.

A skayl oozes molten glaes from all over its body.

You swing a curved steel-bladed greatsword at a skayl!
AS: +350 vs DS: +339 with AvD: +36 + d100 roll: +99 = +146
... and hit for 21 points of damage!
Blow to the head causes the skayl's ears to ring!
Roundtime: 5 sec.

The boost to your fighting spirit fades.

A cinder wasp buzzes angrily about, but can't quite manage to sting Methadun.

A skayl releases a wave of fiery red energy at Methadun!
CS: +259 - TD: +171 + CvA: -21 + d100: +40 - +30 == +77
Warded off!
A skayl's cast misses Methadun. Nothing more happens.

A cinder wasp stabs at Methadun with its stinger!
AS: +276 vs DS: +257 with AvD: +2 + d100 roll: +34 = +55
A clean miss.

A cinder wasp stabs at you with its stinger!
AS: +276 vs DS: +309 with AvD: +19 + d100 roll: +33 = +19
A clean miss.
A cinder wasp heads northwest.

Methadun looks about as he lets loose with a wild shout!

A skayl swings a closed fist at Methadun!
Methadun evades the attack!

You swing a curved steel-bladed greatsword at a skayl!
AS: +335 vs DS: +198 with AvD: +36 + d100 roll: +70 = +243
... and hit for 60 points of damage!
Shot to the neck scrapes away skin.
Some nasty bleeding.
Roundtime: 5 sec.

Methadun firmly says, "Bah."

A cinder wasp stabs at you with its stinger!
AS: +276 vs DS: +309 with AvD: +19 + d100 roll: +97 = +83
A clean miss.
A cinder wasp heads west.

A cinder wasp stabs at Methadun with its stinger!
AS: +276 vs DS: +257 with AvD: +2 + d100 roll: +32 = +53
A clean miss.
A cinder wasp just arrived.

Methadun looks about and lets loose an echoing shout!

Methadun's shout encourages your fighting spirit!

You swing a curved steel-bladed greatsword at a skayl!
AS: +350 vs DS: +193 with AvD: +36 + d100 roll: +65 = +258
... and hit for 70 points of damage!
Respectable shot to the back.
Roundtime: 5 sec.

A skayl swings a closed fist at Methadun!
AS: +310 vs DS: +257 with AvD: -23 + d100 roll: +41 = +71
A clean miss.

Methadun swings a zorchar-edged vultite mattock at a skayl!
AS: +363 vs DS: +196 with AvD: +36 + d100 roll: +28 = +231
... and hits for 59 points of damage!
Mighty blow cracks several ribs.

** Methadun's vultite mattock emits a searing bolt of lightning! **
... 1 point of damage!
Static discharge to right leg. Doesn't hurt, much.

A cinder wasp stabs at you with its stinger!
AS: +276 vs DS: +309 with AvD: +19 + d100 roll: +73 = +59
A clean miss.
A cinder wasp heads north.

A cinder wasp stabs at you with its stinger!
You parry the attack with your greatsword!

You swing a curved steel-bladed greatsword at a skayl!
AS: +350 vs DS: +196 with AvD: +36 + d100 roll: +1 = +191
... and hit for 37 points of damage!
Stomach shot lands with a hollow *thump*.
Roundtime: 5 sec.

Methadun swings a zorchar-edged vultite mattock at a skayl!
AS: +363 vs DS: +189 with AvD: +36 + d100 roll: +64 = +274
... and hits for 82 points of damage!
Right kneecap smashed into pulp.

The skayl goes limp and it falls over as the fire slowly fades from its eyes.

You swing a curved steel-bladed greatsword at a cinder wasp!
AS: +350 vs DS: +227 with AvD: +42 + d100 roll: +21 = +186
... and hit for 55 points of damage!
Strong slash to throat nicks a few blood vessels.
The cinder wasp is stunned!
Roundtime: 5 sec.

Methadun swings a zorchar-edged vultite mattock at a cinder wasp!
AS: +363 vs DS: +207 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +16 = +206
... and hits for 63 points of damage!
Shield arm mangled horribly.

You swing a curved steel-bladed greatsword at a cinder wasp!
The cinder wasp evades your attack!
Roundtime: 5 sec.