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Drew2
10-24-2003, 07:45 PM
I was in the park when.....



A translucent sphere forms around Banetekk.
Name: Tayre Blupath Race: Sylvankind Profession: Empath (shown as: Ka'Fahar'a dyur Kontiquaela)
Gender: Male Age: 164 Expr: 1911160 Level: 48
Currently Stat Bonus
Constitution (CO): 62 .... 6
Dexterity (DE): 79 .... 19
Discipline (DI): 100 .... 20
Logic (LO): 85 .... 17
Intelligence (IN): 83 .... 16
Strength (ST): 92 .... 21
Reflexes (RE): 54 .... 7
Charisma (CH): 63 .... 11
Wisdom (WI): 100 .... 25
Aura (AU): 100 .... 30
Mana: 144 Silver: 0
Hypolyta says, "hang in there"
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A flower girl arrives, whistling a merry tune.
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Onockerous gestures.
Onockerous blurs more before you.
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Hypolyta says, "everything will be ok"
Zefar shudders.
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Banetekk traces a series of glowing runes while chanting an arcane phrase...
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Banetekk gestures.
A luminescent aura begins to swirl around Banetekk.
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Shadya just arrived.
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You say, "I hope someone is enjoying those 11 coins"
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You say, "I worked hard for them."
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You raise your fist in a display of defiance.
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Setura just arrived.
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Setura just went south.
>find falg (I blame Falgrin first, of course)

There are no adventure rs questing that match the names specified.

The usage for this command is: find <player1> <player2> ... <player9> and will provide a list of those players present you wish to find provided they are questing.
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Setura just arrived.
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Setura just went north.
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Illuen just arrived.
>l
[Town Square, Small Park]
A small, shaded park fills an old vacant lot behind a row of buildings, the bright lamplight from the square filtering through the passage to the north to illuminate the area with a soft glow. A weatherworn grey marble statue of a stocky human in pioneer's clothing overlooks the park, his stone hat encrusted by the gifts of decades of passing birds and his right hand half-upraised as if it once held some now-missing object. You also see a pretty flower girl, the Kyotek disk, a cup of strong coffee, the Menos disk, the brown Eiderfleur disk, a white owl, the Nuadjha disk, a single heavy crossbow shaft and a single heavy crossbow shaft.
Also here: Illuen, Shadya, Necoley, Weego, Kyotek, Zefar who is sitting, Ollyeni who is lying down, Raekay, Lord Jaefer who is sitting, Lord Miersey, Fumbleknuckles who is sitting, Airasophen who is sitting, Enormis who is sleeping, Tekke who is sitting, Lord Banetekk, Lord Menos, Eiderfleur, Ambershadows, Morndil who is lying down, Ristoril who is lying down, Onockerous who is sitting, Nuadjha, Kaldemor who is sitting, Great Lady Hypolyta, Liberius who is sitting, Schildig
Obvious paths: north, south, west
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Jaefer nods to Hypolyta.
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The white owl blinks quietly a few times.
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Hypolyta hugs Jaefer.
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Setura just arrived.
Setura just went south.
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Carene just arrived.
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Jaefer put a sheet of faded vellum in his silver-collared cloak.
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Carene just went north.
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Shadya rummages around in her pockets.
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Lord Megloren just arrived.
>prep 219
You trace a sign while petitioning the spirits to bestow their aid with the Spell Shield spell...
Your spell is ready.
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>cast
>You gesture.
An opalescent aura surrounds you.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
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The white owl cocks its head sideways at you.
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Onockerous appears to be checking his pockets for something, but finds them empty.
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Hypolyta asks, "Evilness just busting to come out Zefar?"
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Megloren makes a quick gesture while calling upon the powers of the elements...
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Megloren gestures.
A bright luminescence surrounds Megloren.
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Zefar says, "someones gett`n semi rich off of me"
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As Shadya pulls on her crystal amulet, her expression grows darker.
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Jaefer faces Hypolyta, closes his eyes and begins chanting. Suddenly, a small bolt of energy arcs between them!

Jaefer opens his eyes, looking slightly drained.
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Voleur just arrived.
>l zef
You see Zefar the Mystic.
He appears to be a Dhe'nar Dark Elf.
He appears to be in his dotage and tall. He has piercing clear colored eyes and black skin. He has long, silver hair worn in a single braid. He has an angular face and sharp pointed ears.
He is in good shape.
He is wearing a crystal amulet, a blackworked grey dwarven robe, an ankle-worn slender leather toolkit, a tiny golden dragon nose ring, a simple silver chain, a frayed leather scroll sack, a wire-looped incised rolaren nail, some black leather hunting boots, a crystal amulet, an invar mesh leather war pack, an artist's black silk satchel, and a glossy black leather gem pouch.
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Megloren makes a quick gesture while calling upon the powers of the elements...
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Megloren gestures.
A bright luminescence surrounds Megloren.
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* Gragar just bit the dust!
Zefar nods to Hypolyta.
A thread of swirling gray magic suddenly appears and coils about Kyotek's body. It whirls malevolently around him for a moment and then disappears within him.
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Megloren makes a quick gesture while calling upon the powers of the elements...
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Megloren gestures.
A bright luminescence surrounds Megloren.
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Suddenly Christophorous appears in the room holding onto a ring he has just placed on his finger.
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Megloren makes a quick gesture while calling upon the powers of the elements...
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Megloren gestures.
A bright luminescence surrounds Megloren.
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Fumbleknuckles coughs lightly.
Christophorous stands up.
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Megloren makes a quick gesture while calling upon the powers of the elements...
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Megloren gestures.
A bright luminescence surrounds Megloren.
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Megloren makes a quick gesture while calling upon the powers of the elements...
Megloren gestures.
A bright luminescence surrounds Megloren.
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Kyotek scratches himself uncontrollably!

Kyotek drops his shield!
!
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Zefar says, "right now ya..los`n coins "
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The white owl swivels its head around to peer directly at you.
>l ky
You see Kyotek D'sakrin.
He appears to be a Dark Elf.
He appears to be wizened with age and taller than average. He has bloodshot milky white eyes and dusky skin. He has short, steel grey hair with a black streak running through it. He has a narrow face, a straight nose and a broad chest.
He has a black diamond tattoo on his forearm, a goblin skull bowling ball tattoo on his forearm, and an etched gravestone tattoo on his arm.
He is in good shape.
He is holding some polished pink coral in his right hand.
He is wearing a scorched red glaes chain, a silver dagger earring, a suit of dark elven ringmail etched with sinuous crimson runes, a sleek black waern skin harness dusted with a chaotic pattern of tiny pieces of crushed deathstones, some pitch-black fingerless leather gloves encrusted with sparkling rubies on the knuckles and clasped with ruby-eyed silver skulls at the wrists, a multi-colored glaes meadowlark, a pair of flowing soft black silk trousers trimmed with delicate lines of tiny pearls running from waist to cuffs, a snake-etched sterling silver pendant, a fire pearl studded steel buckle, a willow tree-etched medal, a lapis blue floating sphere, a splintered modwir axe-head amulet, a crimson-edged black diamond wristlet, a petal-cut star emerald stickpin, a heavy black back sheath, some dark leather boots riveted with protective iron plates, a drawstring midnight black pouch, a hammered pewter flagon, a worn elven-styled bag, a shadowy dark cloak clasped with an ancient troll lord's cracked skull, and a ruby-eyed obsidian dragon ring.
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Christophorous just went north.
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Megloren makes a quick gesture while calling upon the powers of the elements...
Megloren gestures.
A bright luminescence surrounds Megloren.
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Jaefer grins.
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Shadya peers quizzically at Kyotek.
Hypolyta says, "goodness Jaefer"
>nod ky
You nod to Kyotek.
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Kyotek scratches himself uncontrollably!
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Turqi just arrived.
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You pick up a acid-stained vultite wall shield.
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Turqi just went west.
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Eiderfleur just went north.
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Zefar rummages around in his pockets.
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Melor just arrived.
yawn
>You yawn.
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You feel at full magical power again.
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Melor sits down.
>lick shield
Shadya removes a veniom-bound rolaren tower shield from in her leather harness.
You lick the vultite wall shield.
It tastes metallic!
>'Yum.
Zefar drops some coins.
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You say, "Yum."
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Turqi just arrived.
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Setura just arrived.
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Onockerous says, "well that kind of answers things"
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Kyotek scratches himself uncontrollably!
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Setura tips her head back and empties a mug of golden wheat beer down her gullet!
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Turqi lies down.
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You say, "I guess so"
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Jaefer grins at Kyotek.
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Setura just went north.
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Hypolyta faces Zefar, closes her eyes and begins chanting. Suddenly, a small bolt of energy arcs between them!

Hypolyta opens her eyes, looking slightly drained.
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Suddenly Eadha appears in the room holding onto a ring he has just placed on his finger.
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Kyotek just went north.
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Enormis blinks a few times and then opens his eyes and looks around.

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You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Taerven echo in your mind:
"Hey, I'm back, what's up"
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Zefar says, "someone needs an un-curse"
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Eadha slings an ora shield over his shoulder.
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Lord Fyrentennimar just arrived.
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Zefar makes a quick gesture while calling upon the powers of the elements...
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Zefar gestures.
Zefar appears to be keenly aware of his surroundings.
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* Warclaidhm returns home from a hard day of adventuring.
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You say, "I doubt he'll get it soon."
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Hypolyta asks, "who?"
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Fyrentennimar hugs Shadya.
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Eadha lies down.
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Zefar searches around for a moment.
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You say, "The thief."
>point ky
I could not find what you were referring to.
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Turqi just opened a grey wolf-hide cloak.
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Fyrentennimar ponders.
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Fyrentennimar smiles.
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Turqi put a razor edged vultite cutlass in his wolf-hide cloak.
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Lord Fyrentennimar just went west.
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Hypolyta says, "oo"
Menos slashes his dagger through the air, his weapon becoming such a blur that you momentarily see the initials M.R. flash before your eyes.
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Eadha just closed an old cracked leather belt pouch.
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Lord Fyrentennimar just arrived.
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Turqi just closed a grey wolf-hide cloak.
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Lord Fyrentennimar just went north.
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* Qahaar just bit the dust!
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Hypolyta grins at Zefar.
>chat I got a free shield
You focus on transmitting your thought.

You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-You echo in your mind:
"I got a free shield"

Drew2
10-24-2003, 07:47 PM
Five minutes Later, Skorpy is at my Thrak table trying to demand the shield back.

I'm thinking on the NO side, especially since a)It's not his and b)I dont' care if it's his alt, he can kiss my ass.

Myrianna
10-24-2003, 07:51 PM
Nice shield for 11 silvers ;)

Parkbandit
10-24-2003, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by Tayre
I was in the park when.....

>find falg (I blame Falgrin first, of course)


Don't come to his park with coins or gems.. you have no one to actually blame but yourself. :smug:

And that's not a thief... that's a hack. Any thief worth his/her salt won't have anything except gems in their hands.

Parkbandit
10-24-2003, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by Myrianna
Nice shield for 11 silvers ;)

You do realize you will have to give the shield back though.. right?

Myrianna
10-24-2003, 07:55 PM
I'm not sure he has to give it back... shouldn't have been stealing with anything in your hands you might drop.

Drew2
10-24-2003, 07:58 PM
Why would I have to give it back? The consequences of stealing are well known. He could have avoided this by emptying his hands. I didn't force this on him, it wasn't my gem, I didn't curse him. He brought this upon himself, dropped the shield (as the game mechanics force him to) and I picked it up.

RP-wise, he is a thief. When he suffers consequences such as this, perhaps he should reconsider his lifestyle. Or get smarter.

The end.

Parkbandit
10-24-2003, 08:04 PM
Originally posted by Tayre
Why would I have to give it back? The consequences of stealing are well known. He could have avoided this by emptying his hands. I didn't force this on him, it wasn't my gem, I didn't curse him. He brought this upon himself, dropped the shield (as the game mechanics force him to) and I picked it up.

RP-wise, he is a thief. When he suffers consequences such as this, perhaps he should reconsider his lifestyle. Or get smarter.

The end.

Assist about it... I can guarantee you will have to give it back.

ParkBandit knows policy... keeps him somewhat out of trouble ;)

CrystalTears
10-24-2003, 08:06 PM
Because he'll report and say he thieved 11 coins and a gem which was cursed and caused him to drop his shield which was taken. If it was registered they'll track it down and demand that you give back, saying that 11 coins thieved does not justify stealing a weapon. Whether that's right or wrong I'm not going to debate but I'm pretty sure that's what's going to happen eventually.

Adhara
10-24-2003, 08:11 PM
I don't see why he should give it back. Thieves should be allowed to steal to their heart's content and then we should 1) return all dropped possessions and 2) make sure that if we kill them it is within the next 30 min? (ref: previous thread about killing thieves)

theotherjohn
10-24-2003, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by ParkbanditYou do realize you will have to give the shield back though.. right?

If the coinfinder is a piece of reporting shit then you will have to return the shield.

Artha
10-24-2003, 08:12 PM
That's:

A) If he notices it was you that took it
B) He doesn't kill you
and
C) He reports/assists about it

Parkbandit
10-24-2003, 08:13 PM
The reason being is basically... when does it stop? Once you step foot on that slippery slope.. then all hell breaks loose.

So, because you roleplayed that senario with the thief, you gain whatever item he has in his hands? What happens tomorrow when a character comes up to you and begins to attack you for no reason.. can you then curse him to gain his shield/sword? How about when someone comes up to you and starts saying you are a coward and a fool... you curse him and gain his 5x lance from his hand. All roleplayed out. Following day, you... being the evil empath that you are... decide you don't like the way someone is looking at you.. so you curse them, causing them to drop their 10x sword.

Slippery slope... once you start down it, you can never get back up.

You will have to return the shield.. trust me. And with your record.. I would return it to him prior to being pulled up into some GM lounge.

Kail
10-24-2003, 08:14 PM
Being a highly spiteful person, I would chuck the stupid thing down a well. Nothing left to give back then. Serves the guy right.

Hulkein
10-24-2003, 08:15 PM
Drop it in the well... They can't force you to give it back then.

Parkbandit
10-24-2003, 08:16 PM
Originally posted by Adhara
I don't see why he should give it back. Thieves should be allowed to steal to their heart's content and then we should 1) return all dropped possessions and 2) make sure that if we kill them it is within the next 30 min? (ref: previous thread about killing thieves)

Once a thief steals from you.. and you catch him, it then is consent for PvP.

It is not however consent to break policy and cast curse on him, with the intention of having him drop his shield.

Parkbandit
10-24-2003, 08:18 PM
Dropping the shield down the well will only increase the potential trouble you would be in.

Is it that important for you to break policy to show that thief who's boss?

Not worth the risks if you ask me.

Kail
10-24-2003, 08:18 PM
He cursed himself by taking the cursed gem.

Hulkein
10-24-2003, 08:19 PM
I'd drop it in the well just to prove a point, and take the warning, which I doubt they'll give you.

Parkbandit
10-24-2003, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by Kail
He cursed himself by taking the cursed gem.

Hey.. I'm just giving friendly advice here.. I can't force anyone to abide by the policy set forth to us by Simutronics.

I can tell you how it works and the potential risks... you will have to be the final judge on how you the player reacts.

Personally, I don't think it's worth it... but hey, that's me with no "official" warnings.

I've had my fair share of GM sends telling me to relax a little bit.. or to rethink what I am about to do... but no "offical" warnings. :)

Drew2
10-24-2003, 08:22 PM
I gave it back. :(

The best part is -- He owns the account of Solice. And the player that was using Solice and Kyotek at the time will now be locked out of both accounts. He was a pretty nice guy about it... I didn't detect any hidden motives. He simply begged for it back, told me a pretty convincing story... that, and Tayre really is supposed to be a pretty decent guy, so I just gave it back, told him I hoped I could trust him on all this.

He says he doesn't know how the hell Skorpy got involved though. I hope I made the right decision... I've apparently gained the 'protection' of Him, Solice, and Jaken now. Or something. We'll see.

Parkbandit
10-24-2003, 08:22 PM
Originally posted by Hulkein
I'd drop it in the well just to prove a point, and take the warning, which I doubt they'll give you.

It's not an automatic warning unless the GM actually watched it happen... but if the player of the cursed thief reports or assists... the chances are pretty high our little Tayre will be yanked up and spoken to.

Is it worth the risk?

Weedmage Princess
10-24-2003, 08:23 PM
I see what you're saying Parkbandit, and I agree with your "bigger picture" so to speak...

...but I don't think he should have to return the shield. Say someone picked your pocket while you were waiting on line at the mall..Holiday shopping or something...snags your wallet. Luckily you only had $20 bucks cash on you..maybe a credit card or two. You see the perpetrator shuffle through your wallet, but he disappears before you can do anything. You DO notice something shimmering drop off of him, though. You go over to where it is..and look! It happens to be a watch...a damn nice, expensive watch..a bit worn, but nice none the less. Are you going to return it to him?

If you would, I'll say you're a bigger person than I am, cause I damn sure wouldn't. Hey, I can call and report my credit cards stolen and at the end of the day, $20 bucks isn't much to part with for a watch that was say...10x it's value...

Drew2
10-24-2003, 08:23 PM
ParkBandit is right... I considered the risk, and all the headache involved, and decided I had more to lose by keeping it than giving it back.

Adhara
10-24-2003, 08:26 PM
Did you read the thread I was talking about Park? Someone had asked a GH if it was ok to kill a thief and the answer was to use the verb challenge which would automatically be accepted by the thief within a half a hour of the theft. The person then said what if the thief hides for a half a hour? And the GH answered "if you don't use the challenge verb or if your challenge is no accepted then it's unconsented PvP" which basically translated to: if the thief hides until the challenge is not auto-accepted and later refuses your challenge you'll be in trouble for it. That's Bullshit with a capital B for me.

As for returning the shield, he was in no obligation to hold a shield, knowing full well that there ARE cursed gems out there. So he only stole 11 silvers. Ok what if he had stolen 11k? Still too little? Should we wait until he steals his shield's value before we're allowed to take the shield? Stealing comes with consequences and if you know you can be cursed and drop something you're holding and STILL choose to take that chance, not only should you lose the shield but you should lose your dignity too and find a new hobby.

The Policy says you must return the shield? Ok. So the shield shall be returned. It doesn't mean I have to agree with the Policy especially when the policy gives thieves almost immunity.

Parkbandit
10-24-2003, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by Weedmage Princess
I see what you're saying Parkbandit, and I agree with your "bigger picture" so to speak...

...but I don't think he should have to return the shield. Say someone picked your pocket while you were waiting on line at the mall..Holiday shopping or something...snags your wallet. Luckily you only had $20 bucks cash on you..maybe a credit card or two. You see the perpetrator shuffle through your wallet, but he disappears before you can do anything. You DO notice something shimmering drop off of him, though. You go over to where it is..and look! It happens to be a watch...a damn nice, expensive watch..a bit worn, but nice none the less. Are you going to return it to him?

If you would, I'll say you're a bigger person than I am, cause I damn sure wouldn't. Hey, I can call and report my credit cards stolen and at the end of the day, $20 bucks isn't much to part with for a watch that was say...10x it's value...

Two different things doll...

If the thief accidently dropped the shield without the cause coming from Tayre... and Tayre picks up the shield.. that is not against policy. Tayre didn't cause the dropped shield.

Trinitis
10-24-2003, 08:29 PM
Originally posted by Parkbandit

Two different things doll...

If the thief accidently dropped the shield without the cause coming from Tayre... and Tayre picks up the shield.. that is not against policy. Tayre didn't cause the dropped shield.

Tayre did not have the cursed gem..he got the gem from someone else.

-Adredrin

Adhara
10-24-2003, 08:30 PM
Oh and you can go to jail for years in life for a petty theft. It's not steal 20$ get an equal fine of 20$. The punishment should be and is tenfold compared to the crime but that's because you pay for the lesson too.

Parkbandit
10-24-2003, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by Adhara


The Policy says you must return the shield? Ok. So the shield shall be returned. It doesn't mean I have to agree with the Policy especially when the policy gives thieves almost immunity.

Heh... as a player of a thief I can tell you there is no immunity at all. Everytime Falgrin dips his greedy little hands into someone's backpack or purse, he fully realizes the risks involved.

Now.. Falgrin can usually talk his way out of most confrontations.. but that's just a gift his incredible player has :) BUT, the risk is always there.

Drew2
10-24-2003, 08:38 PM
The gem was not on me at all. It came from someone else entirely. He stole my 11 silvers.

Hulkein
10-24-2003, 08:39 PM
That thing about having to use the challenge verb isn't correct. The GH said that because I'm sure he has to, just so people use their stupid 'challenge' verb, but no GM would give a warning for killing a thief without a challenge verb, trust me on this.

theotherjohn
10-24-2003, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by Hulkein
That thing about having to use the challenge verb isn't correct. The GH said that because I'm sure he has to, just so people use their stupid 'challenge' verb, but no GM would give a warning for killing a thief without a challenge verb, trust me on this.

I dont trust you on this.

I have killed a few So I know it truly depends on the GM.

Carraig did nothing when I killed someone over 10 times

Andraste sure as hell will give warnings for killing without consent.

peam
10-24-2003, 10:17 PM
You should've done what your character would do.

Screw policy. It isn't enforced well enough to pay it any attention.

Parkbandit
10-24-2003, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by Lady Daina

So, Parkbandit, this being said, does that change things in your eyes?



Not really. The reason he dropped the shield wasn't due to his actions, but another players.

Taking advantage of this is against policy. Who's gem it was that caused the dropping of the shield is not important.

Betheny
10-24-2003, 10:52 PM
I wouldn't have stolen his shield. I would've gakked him when he dropped it though.

But... as a thieving cleric... I make damned sure I don't steal from anyone that could kick my ass.

10-24-2003, 11:47 PM
hmmm jaken is solice that is intersting ever so intresting...

Skirmisher
10-25-2003, 04:35 AM
I would simply have refused to the individual and made them waste their own time going through all the motions and then finally agreed when meeting with the GM later on.

At the very least I make him waste his own time.

That may teach the idiot to use what little brains they have in their head when stealing.

I will spare you all the whole "This whole situation is the fault of how sad the stealing mechanisms are" due to the fact that they are changing soon(hopefully).

Skirmisher
10-25-2003, 04:38 AM
Originally posted by Parkbandit
Not really. The reason he dropped the shield wasn't due to his actions, but another players.

Taking advantage of this is against policy. Who's gem it was that caused the dropping of the shield is not important.

Until the day comes when I can toss my cursed gem at someone and make them drop their shield, the action is theirs, not mine.

Dighn Darkbeam
10-25-2003, 04:41 AM
The Policy says you must return the shield? Ok. So the shield shall be returned. It doesn't mean I have to agree with the Policy especially when the policy gives thieves almost immunity. >>

Yep, though you said it. You MUST give the shield back. Taking an item someone dropped because of curse is against game policy. The only way you could justifiably use that method is if the object was originally yours and you could prove it, but someone took it from you.

This and other fascets of justice were discussed at length in the official sorcery boards. The spell Cloak of Shadows retribution effect will go off if a player stuns him with a weapon in town. If that person is killed by the retribution spell, the sorcerer is automatically charged with murder. You can flag the retribution effect on and off, as well as change the spell, so the issue isnt that serious.

Another example is some curses can cause HP loss. This damage could possibly kill a very young thief or a snert who wants to give the sorcerer a fine after stealing from him. If the thief dies with the gem in his hand, there is no charges. If the thief can get the gem out of his hands before he lets himself die, the sorcerer goes to jail.

Im sure there are examples in other professions. Justice systems are flawed, but improvements are being made.

Parkbandit
10-25-2003, 08:59 AM
Originally posted by Skirmisher

Originally posted by Parkbandit
Not really. The reason he dropped the shield wasn't due to his actions, but another players.

Taking advantage of this is against policy. Who's gem it was that caused the dropping of the shield is not important.

Until the day comes when I can toss my cursed gem at someone and make them drop their shield, the action is theirs, not mine.

Never said I agreed with the policy or not... I was just saying what the policy was.

Skirmisher
10-25-2003, 09:03 AM
Originally posted by Parkbandit
Never said I agreed with the policy or not... I was just saying what the policy was.

Now now, no short circuiting my game of semantics with reason.:flamed:

Trinitis
10-25-2003, 01:04 PM
I still think thats all crap. If you attack a sorcerer and hit/stun them, you are asking for the strike back. Its stupid.

-Adredrin

Parkbandit
10-25-2003, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by LordAdredrin
I still think thats all crap. If you attack a sorcerer and hit/stun them, you are asking for the strike back. Its stupid.

-Adredrin

I agree, but Sorcerers will have a way of turning that on or off.

And you don't have to have a completely lethal spell.. can't you have stun or something?

Trinitis
10-25-2003, 02:18 PM
If someone is attacking me for no real reason (trust me, it does happen in the game) the last thing I want is a stun waiting contest to see who can break it faster.

-Adredrin

Hulkein
10-25-2003, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by theotherjohn

Originally posted by Hulkein
That thing about having to use the challenge verb isn't correct. The GH said that because I'm sure he has to, just so people use their stupid 'challenge' verb, but no GM would give a warning for killing a thief without a challenge verb, trust me on this.

I dont trust you on this.

I have killed a few So I know it truly depends on the GM.

Carraig did nothing when I killed someone over 10 times

Andraste sure as hell will give warnings for killing without consent.

Getting stolen from IS consent dear, just because you don't use the challenge verb doesn't mean you don't have consent.

Hulkein
10-25-2003, 03:34 PM
I feel the love Daina, referring to the 'though it pains me.' :D

Tsa`ah
10-27-2003, 02:55 PM
I would normally agree that he would have been made to give back the shield, except the thief dropped the shield, didn't say a word and after a moment left.

The important key events here.


A thread of swirling gray magic suddenly appears and coils about Kyotek's body. It whirls malevolently around him for a moment and then disappears within him.


Kyotek scratches himself uncontrollably!

Kyotek drops his shield!


You pick up a acid-stained vultite wall shield.


Kyotek just went north.

If you re-read the log, the thief said nothing and made no attempt to interact. To me this screams scripting.

I have plenty of items in my locker that hack type thieves have dropped, even a nice 6x blessable short sword, on only one occasion have I been made to return an item since the curse changes.

It hinges upon the immediate response of the thief. This isn't a backpack or sheath abuse scam, this is a case of an inattentive, potential afk scripting, thief.

Tayre took the high road and returned the shield. He's only out 11 silver. Had it been a thief timing my gem stashing, I would have kept it.

Killing a thief is a different bag. I've never challenged a thief, let alone warn them what was going to happen. I have no warnings, no lockouts. I've killed more thieves than I have digits to keep track of.

Xolean
10-28-2003, 08:37 PM
Ha ha...Skorpy got involed because he wanted to get involed it would seem. Regardless if there was a gem stolen or not, if Skorpy decides to kill Tayre because Skorpy was told that a shield was stolen, that is all part of roleplayong, the same roleplaying you, Tayre, deem is what youa re about. And your "protection" from Solice and Jaken...you'd believe anything someone told you I guess, just because you are such a nice guy. Kudos to you for returning the shield, Right thing to do...who cares.

Drew2
10-28-2003, 08:43 PM
Skorpy TRIED to kill me. I could have knocked him all over the place had I tried. But I webbed him then ran away from the table.

Stunseed
10-28-2003, 08:53 PM
I think that's a pussy move for getting your stuff back, friend. Skorpy "heard" about it. Please. Stealing has its consequences, I'd kept the shield til a GM made me give it back. I think I'd just taken it, registered it and tossed it in my locker. But I'm sure that thief has plenty of other gear to use. Just my two cents, tho.

Love you Jolena!

longshot
10-29-2003, 03:40 AM
This Kyotek fucker...

He stole from me, I saw it! Then, I confronted him about it, and he walked north and then left the lands.

This has got to be a script, and the assclown who owns the account should be punished far more than taking a vultite shield.

I hate scripters.

I hate pussy ass theives who can't take it.

This character was one of two I had highlighted as "kill on sight, no questions asked".

Caiylania
10-29-2003, 03:52 AM
I've never caught anyone stealing from me, and don't know what I would do if I did. I've heard about the poisoned needles and such, but they cost more than what a theif could get out of my pockets so whats the point?

Are there any other ways to boobytrap your silvers and gems?

Dighn Darkbeam
10-29-2003, 09:32 AM
They also weigh more than average gems, adding to ecumbrance and taking up container space. A small price to pay to catch a thief and the joy tearing him apart.

Wezas
10-29-2003, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by longshot
This character was one of two I had highlighted as "kill on sight, no questions asked".

Edine will be glad that he's not alone now.

Parkbandit
10-29-2003, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by longshot
This Kyotek fucker...

He stole from me, I saw it! Then, I confronted him about it, and he walked north and then left the lands.

This has got to be a script, and the assclown who owns the account should be punished far more than taking a vultite shield.

I hate scripters.

I hate pussy ass theives who can't take it.

This character was one of two I had highlighted as "kill on sight, no questions asked".

I have a script that steals.. but I only use it on rare occasions when I want to make sure I don't miss anything that could be about to happen.

AFK script stealing is very dangerous and stupid.

Parkbandit
10-29-2003, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by Caiylania
I've never caught anyone stealing from me, and don't know what I would do if I did. I've heard about the poisoned needles and such, but they cost more than what a theif could get out of my pockets so whats the point?

Are there any other ways to boobytrap your silvers and gems?

The needles are useless and a waste of money.

And instead of worrying about a thief.. isn't it just easier just to let it go? Just go to the park and relax.. nothing to worry about.

So much about nothing.. what's a few measly hundred thousand silvers anyways?

Parkbandit
10-29-2003, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by Dighn Darkbeam
They also weigh more than average gems, adding to ecumbrance and taking up container space. A small price to pay to catch a thief and the joy tearing him apart.

Such anger... seek professional help.

Caiylania
10-29-2003, 12:08 PM
I know its best to drop it, like I said, I've never caught anyone stealing from me, just wondered what options were out there.

Parkbandit
10-29-2003, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by Caiylania
I know its best to drop it, like I said, I've never caught anyone stealing from me, just wondered what options were out there.

There are no other options available to you. Don't listen to the lies other people spread.. they lie.

Just accept the fact that the thief is the mightiest of all and accept your poorer fate.