Siierra, Symminian, Kallamdor, Kondus

[Things2Come]

I list them together because I believe they're all one person. I may be wrong about all of them being one, but I definately know that Kallamdor and Kondus are the same person.

Has anyone had any run-ins with these people?

A week or so Siierra left the game, and her disk burst and dropped a box. I picked up that box, and Symminian demanded that I give it to him. When I refused, he starts to attack me and attempts to kill me. I left the area and assisted, because I thought some psycho was going crazy over a box that wasn't his. Siierra came back, and I gave her the box back. Symminian threw a hissy fit in front of the game host that came to answer the assist. Then he disappeared for a week or more.

Just a short while ago, these four come back..

Siierra starts to cast dispel invis.. she gets me with it, and I ask her why she did that. She had some snotty remark about why she did it, so I pushed her off the ledge. Then I jumped and left to get some boxes picked.

When I came back it was apparently time for war...

Siierra softly asks, "Who's hiding?"
sI>
Symminian makes a quick gesture while calling upon the powers of the elements...
sI>l
[A Dark Crevice]
You notice the Siierra disk, an engraved steel box, a scratched thanot strongbox with an iced blueberry muffin on it and some large cracks in the ground.
Also here: Siierra (sitting), Symminian (sitting), Great Lord Kallamdor (sitting), Kondus (sitting), Zilin (sitting), Lord Grimaldus (sitting)
Obvious exits: up
sI>
Siierra gestures while calling upon the lesser spirits for aid...
Siierra gestures.
Siierra dispels your invisibility!
s>
Siierra gestures while calling upon the lesser spirits for aid...
Siierra gestures.
Nothing seems to happen.
s>916

You trace a series of glowing runes while chanting the phrase for Invisibility...
You gesture.
You become invisible.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
sI>push siierra
You shove Siierra off the ledge and watch her fall into the abyss!
sI>warn siierra interaction
You inform Siierra that you wish no further interaction with her. Having done this, you realize that the two of you should move to separate areas, so as not to escalate the conflict.
sI>
Kondus gestures while calling upon the lesser spirits for aid...
sI>
Kondus gestures.
Kondus dispels your invisibility!
s>
Kallamdor tries to push you but misses and clumsily falls off the ledge into the abyss!
s>
Symminian's hands glow with power as he summons elemental energy to his command...
s>
Symminian gestures at you.
Symminian hurls a hissing stream of acid at you!
AS: +192 vs DS: +395 with AvD: +37 + d100 roll: +86 = -80
A clean miss.
s>
s>assist request Symminian is attacking me
Your request has been sent to the GMs currently on duty.
You are number 1 in the queue.
You may cancel your request for assistance at any time by clicking ASSIST CANCEL.
s>
Symminian tries to push you but misses and clumsily falls off the ledge into the abyss!
s>916

You trace a series of glowing runes while chanting the phrase for Invisibility...
You gesture.
You become invisible.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
sI>warn symminian interaction
You inform Symminian that you wish no further interaction with him. Having done this, you realize that the two of you should move to separate areas, so as not to escalate the conflict.
sI>
Siierra just arrived.
sI>
Siierra sits down.
s>
Siierra gestures while calling upon the lesser spirits for aid...
Siierra gestures.
Siierra dispels your invisibility!
s>
Siierra traces a sign while beseeching the spirits for empowerment...
s>
Siierra gestures at you.
CS: +208 - TD: +169 + CvA: +14 + d100: +94 - -5 == +152
Warding failed!
An unseen force envelopes you, restricting all movement.
Is>
Siierra stands up.
Is>
Siierra sits down.
Is>
Is>report Siierra, Symminian, Kondus and Kallamdor, I assume are the same people, as they're attacking me, dispelling invis, after I've used warn interaction against them
REPORT should only be used to notify the GemStone IV staff of emergency situations or gamewide technical errors. Please use ASSIST for general support.


Message sent to all online game staff. While no staff members are currently on duty, there are likely to be several lurking behind the scenes to investigate your report. If you feel the need to speak with the staff, please type ASSIST for a list of options.

Is>
Siierra gestures while calling upon the lesser spirits for aid...
Siierra gestures.
An invisible force guides Siierra.
Is>
Grimaldus glances at Siierra.
Is>
Siierra stands up.
Is>
Siierra appears to be focusing her thoughts while chanting softly...
Siierra gestures at you.
Siierra hurls a radiant ball of energy at you!
AS: +342 vs DS: +286 with AvD: +44 + d100 roll: +5 = +105
... and hits for 3 points of damage!
Your leg hair is singed off, smooth shave!
Almost immediately, you begin to feel the presence of Siierra permeating your body!
Is>
CS: +225 - TD: +166 + CvA: +14 + d100: +93 - -5 == +171
Warding failed!
The presence of Siierra overwhelms you as your self-sustaining organs temporarily stop functioning!
...and causing 39 points of damage!
Within you, the empathic presence of Siierra dissipates.
Is>
Siierra appears to be focusing her thoughts while chanting softly...
Siierra gestures at you.
Siierra hurls a radiant ball of energy at you!
AS: +267 vs DS: +285 with AvD: +44 + d100 roll: +10 = +36
A clean miss.
Is>
Siierra appears to be focusing her thoughts while chanting softly...
Siierra gestures at you.
Siierra hurls a radiant ball of energy at you!
AS: +267 vs DS: +285 with AvD: +44 + d100 roll: +11 = +37
A clean miss.
Is>report Siierra just bound me, and is now attacking me, after I've used warn interaction
REPORT should only be used to notify the GemStone IV staff of emergency situations or gamewide technical errors. Please use ASSIST for general support.


Message sent to all online game staff. While no staff members are currently on duty, there are likely to be several lurking behind the scenes to investigate your report. If you feel the need to speak with the staff, please type ASSIST for a list of options.

Is>
Siierra swings a sapphire-set rolaren warblade at you!
AS: +247 vs DS: +243 with AvD: +36 + d100 roll: +65 = +105
... and hits for 2 points of damage!
Quick feint to your right foot.
Little extra damage.
Is>
Siierra utters a light chant and raises her hands, beckoning the lesser spirits to her aid...
Siierra gestures at you.
Siierra hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!
AS: +267 vs DS: +285 with AvD: +59 + d100 roll: +47 = +88
A clean miss.
Is>warn siierra interaction
One warning should be sufficient. If your problems persist, you should consider placing an ASSIST to explain the situation to a GameHost.
Is>
Siierra traces a sign while beseeching the spirits for empowerment...
Siierra gestures at you.
CS: +208 - TD: +169 + CvA: +14 + d100: +98 - -5 == +156
Warding failed!
An unseen force envelopes you, restricting all movement.
Is>
Speaking softly to you, Siierra says, "You do not push me off the ledge 3 times then warn interact me, and believe me, go cry to the gods, cus I will be gladly waiting to talk to them."
Is>
The restricting force that envelops you dissolves away.
s>916

Siierra traces a sign while beseeching the spirits for empowerment...
Siierra gestures at you.
CS: +208 - TD: +169 + CvA: +14 + d100: +31 - -5 == +89
Warded off!
s>
You trace a series of glowing runes while chanting the phrase for Invisibility...
You gesture.
You become invisible.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.


I left to go hunt after this but when I came back, it was still a hot topic.


Siierra softly says, "Hiding is not the issue, whatsoever, but it is my right to know who is hiding if I choose to want to see. She needs to deal with the consquences of being hidden. ."

Siierra softly says, "And...after I casted dispel, she asked me ''why'' I did that, I answered point blank to her '' to see who was hiding'' then she shoved me off the ledge. After that, she made her bed, now she needs to lie in it."

Speaking softly to Grimaldus, Siierra says, "I'm quite sure if you were shoved off 3 times for casting a dispel spell once to see who was hiding near you, you'd be rather annoyed as well."

Speaking darkly in broken common, Symminian says, "And she crossed it when she shoved her off the second time."

[Drew]

Speaking softly to you, Siierra says, "You do not push me off the ledge 3 times then warn interact me, and believe me, go cry to the gods, cus I will be gladly waiting to talk to them."




I don't know who is in the wrong here but she lost my support when she said that outloud.

[Things2Come]

I probably shouldn't have pushed her, but I got tired of her casting dispel invis multiple times and I figured that would make it clear that I didn't care for what she was doing.

I didn't realize that would start this PvP war. Me vs 4 different people.

[Alfster]

push her again just for me

Why would you warn interact instead of killing them?

[Sietzer]

Kallamdor is not kondus. I know this for fact.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

I must admit that I giggled when each and every one of them fellof the ledge trying to shove you off, haha!

[RichardCranium]

sI>push siierra
You shove Siierra off the ledge and watch her fall into the abyss!
sI>warn siierra interaction
You inform Siierra that you wish no further interaction with her. Having done this, you realize that the two of you should move to separate areas, so as not to escalate the conflict.

You lose.

[Nieninque]

Do you have warn interact on a macro?

[Asha]

Lol, looks like it.

[AestheticDeath]

Siierra, is most definatly a twat, and should not have been casting 109. Being invisible, as far as I know can't harm anyone whatsoever. If you steal or whatnot, you come out of invis yeah? So hiders are the only real problem. And 109 doesn't affect them. Shes obviously trying to be a bitch and stir up trouble.
Only thing she is doing is wasting your mana. I would have killed her right then and there had I the ability.

The other three attacking you after you shove her, is per game rules not allowed from what I know. Though had I seen one of my friends pushed off, I would have done the same. Assuming here that the guys may not all be the same... In RL I would defend my friends no matter what, why should I not be able to in game?

Like richard said... once you pushed them off the ledge, even though its not an attack, GMs will basically see it as you continuing or welcoming PvP. I think I read somewhere, even calling people names would be consent to PvP.

You shouldn't use report or assist in my opinion. Gods almost never do anything from what I have seen. And if they do, you don't ever get to know about it. Just get some justice for yourself. Kill them. If you can't, bring some friends. Or just make life hell for them. If such is not your way, you don't want to fight, or don't like prolonged situations, just find another place to hunt until they leave. Or if you think your character cant hunt feasibly in another place, try playing one of your other characters.. Cause I don't know ANYONE that only ever played one guy. I am sure it has happened... but I don't know them. :P

Why the idiot thinks 109 is her right, I have no idea. But she is stupid to think she won't make someone angry.

[AestheticDeath]

Oh, and is she casting 109 for some reason other than stated in the log? Has there been some interaction or problem before this situation?

Essentially is this your first interaction/problem with her?

[Revon1]

I've killed every single one of them at one point. Symminian has many character's including Kallamdor, Kallamor, and one other sorcerer (I forget his name). Siierra has always been a bitch to those younger than her and when she cant handle her own problems, she called her husband Vulterith (which I also had to kill). As for Kondus, he doesnt belong to symminian but he always involves himself in his problems which is why I was forced to kill him also. Im pretty sure you'll have to deal with them a lot more unless you did what I did and kill them until they warn interact you.

[Things2Come]

I would rather get back to hunting then to fight with them..

But this is not the first time I've met them. Siierra left a week or so ago and her disk burst and dropped a box. I picked up that box, and Symminian demanded that I give it to him. When I didn't, he started to hunt me down and try to attack me. Eventually she came back and I gave her the box, but only after he threw a big fit and spouted off in front of a game host.

Personally I'd rather assist and report then deal with people like that. I probably could have killed her if I tried, but I'd prefer to just ignore them.

[Sietzer]

When My paladin was smaller I loved to be around Kallamdor,Symm, and Siierra. But that has long since Changed, I try to avoid them at all costs. They seem to cause trouble now, and if they want someone dead. They never go alone but rather in a group. I have started to hate them. They think they are the better then everyone. Thats why they go around using 109, Calling people young ones, and trying to kill anyone that mocks or does anything they dont like.

My 2 cents.

[GSIV Siierra]

Wow....LOL

First of all after I finished reading all this and then finished laughing at how incredibly ....ignorant people can be. I can now say, i've actually seen it ALL.

It's funny to see that two married people who live in the same house and have two seperate accounts, who use each other's person's for spells, healings or whatnot, will be labeled as the SAME persona.

I guess everyone with multiple accounts or family or friends that do the same, are now labeled as ONE.

All I have to say is I am honored that so much effort of worrying about who Siierra, Symminian and Kallamdor or whoever else was listed is the same, and so much effort was spent on this. It just goes to prove my theory that people have NOTHING better to do with thier lives. Thank you all for proving me right. :)

I can whole heartedly assure you that the players of these people listed (who infact are three seperate people) are laughing thier arses off right along beside me.

Cheers for the laughs and amusement for a long time to come!

I still love GSIV. :)

[Asha]

I like the theory that some people have nothing better to do than obsess over something that happened 1 and a half years ago over a MUD.

[Amaron]

Wow....LOL

First of all after I finished reading all this and then finished laughing at how incredibly ....ignorant people can be. I can now say, i've actually seen it ALL.

It's funny to see that two married people who live in the same house and have two seperate accounts, who use each other's person's for spells, healings or whatnot, will be labeled as the SAME persona.

I guess everyone with multiple accounts or family or friends that do the same, are now labeled as ONE.

All I have to say is I am honored that so much effort of worrying about who Siierra, Symminian and Kallamdor or whoever else was listed is the same, and so much effort was spent on this. It just goes to prove my theory that people have NOTHING better to do with thier lives. Thank you all for proving me right. :)

I can whole heartedly assure you that the players of these people listed (who infact are three seperate people) are laughing thier arses off right along beside me.

Cheers for the laughs and amusement for a long time to come!

I still love GSIV. :)


The whole log made you look like a tool.


Way to go.

[Sean of the Thread]

Wow....LOL

First of all after I finished reading all this and then finished laughing at how incredibly ....ignorant people can be. I can now say, i've actually seen it ALL.

It's funny to see that two married people who live in the same house and have two seperate accounts, who use each other's person's for spells, healings or whatnot, will be labeled as the SAME persona.

I guess everyone with multiple accounts or family or friends that do the same, are now labeled as ONE.

All I have to say is I am honored that so much effort of worrying about who Siierra, Symminian and Kallamdor or whoever else was listed is the same, and so much effort was spent on this. It just goes to prove my theory that people have NOTHING better to do with thier lives. Thank you all for proving me right. :)

I can whole heartedly assure you that the players of these people listed (who infact are three seperate people) are laughing thier arses off right along beside me.

Cheers for the laughs and amusement for a long time to come!

I still love GSIV. :)

Shut the fuck up you stupid cunt.

[Asha]

x2

[diethx]

blah blah

Didn't really seem like a lot of effort to me. What am I missing here that was so labor intensive?

[thefarmer]

I wouldn't have pushed you off the ledge.

I would have killed your ass, then dragged you to an unfoggable place then let you rot.

[Bobmuhthol]

<<It's funny to see that two married people who live in the same house and have two seperate accounts, who use each other's person's for spells, healings or whatnot, will be labeled as the SAME persona.>>

Because that's obviously a HUGE stretch, LOL, AMIRITE???

Fuck you.

[Sthrockmorton]

sI>push siierra
You shove Siierra off the ledge and watch her fall into the abyss!
sI>warn siierra interaction
You inform Siierra that you wish no further interaction with her. Having done this, you realize that the two of you should move to separate areas, so as not to escalate the conflict.
:rofl:

What are we? 5 years old? Punching the older brother and running behind mom screaming that he's gonna kill you.

But hey, everyone in that room was special in their own way, so I won't fault you...

Although you did just lose any/all street cred ;)

[B2]

If you log in your husband's characters to get spells or whatnot...

...aren't they then run by the same person?

Even if the character belongs to someone else, if you're controlling them, then you're controlling them.

[SayGoodbye]

I'm not sticking up for anyone here.

But I dislike the people who jump on the "OMG THEY"RE THE SAME PERSONZ" bandwagon.

Sometimes they're just not. Even if they do happen to always be around at the same time.

[Gan]

Wow....LOL

First of all after I finished reading all this and then finished laughing at how incredibly ....ignorant people can be. I can now say, i've actually seen it ALL.

It's funny to see that two married people who live in the same house and have two seperate accounts, who use each other's person's for spells, healings or whatnot, will be labeled as the SAME persona.

I guess everyone with multiple accounts or family or friends that do the same, are now labeled as ONE.

All I have to say is I am honored that so much effort of worrying about who Siierra, Symminian and Kallamdor or whoever else was listed is the same, and so much effort was spent on this. It just goes to prove my theory that people have NOTHING better to do with thier lives. Thank you all for proving me right. :)

I can whole heartedly assure you that the players of these people listed (who infact are three seperate people) are laughing thier arses off right along beside me.

Cheers for the laughs and amusement for a long time to come!

I still love GSIV. :)

Amusing enough that you had to create an account just to respond. Sounds like the OP hit a nerve if you ask me. And while you're asking - the log completely made you look like a loser.

:clap:

[Hips]

It's also not the first time you, Kallamdor, and Symminian have acted like complete asshats. I direct you to another thread.

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=20816

[Bobmuhthol]

That thread is a testament to how goddamn awesome I used to be, back when I had all the time in the world to write hilarious comments on the internets.

[Elvenlady]

I like the theory that some people have nothing better to do than obsess over something that happened 1 and a half years ago over a MUD.

Worth repeating.