Wound hoarding

[Leetahkin]

Don't know where else to put this. I am getting so many empaths taking my healing jobs that I nod to, in Icemule. Here is the latest, which happened to be someone with a LOT of wounds. Then another person comes with a few scratches, and gets ignored by the same healer.


The appearance of great calm leaves Kristalis as she looks up and glances around.

sJ>
Saraswati says, "Healing please."
sJ>
Saraswati says, "I am bleeding."
sJ>nod sara
sJ>
You nod to Saraswati.
sJ>appr sara
You take a quick appraisal of Saraswati and find that she has some minor cuts and bruises on her right arm, some minor cuts and bruises on her left arm, some minor cuts and bruises on her right leg, some minor cuts and bruises on her left leg, a fractured and bleeding left hand, deep lacerations across her chest, and minor cuts and bruises on her back.
She has old battle scars on her right leg and an old battle scar across her chest.
She is bleeding from the chest.
sJ>
Kristalis nods to Saraswati.
sJ>
Kristalis meditates over Saraswati.
Kristalis takes all of Saraswati's blood loss.
sJ>
Saraswati smiles at you.
sJ>
Anber stands up.
sJ>
Kristalis meditates over Saraswati.
Kristalis takes Saraswati's left leg damage.
sJ>
Kristalis meditates over Saraswati.
Kristalis takes Saraswati's right leg damage.
sJ>
Anber just went west.
sJ>
Kristalis meditates over Saraswati.
Kristalis takes Saraswati's left arm damage.
sJ>
Kristalis meditates over Saraswati.
Kristalis takes Saraswati's right arm damage.
sJ>
Kristalis begins to look better as the cuts on her left arm close and the bruises fade.
sJ>
Saraswati says, "Or krist."
sJ>cough
Kristalis meditates over Saraswati.
Kristalis takes Saraswati's left hand damage.
sJ>
You cough.
sJ>
Kristalis meditates over Saraswati.
Kristalis takes Saraswati's chest damage.
sJ>
Kristalis meditates over Saraswati.
Kristalis takes Saraswati's back damage.
sJ>
Saraswati flails her arms about.
sJ>shrug
You shrug.
sJ>
Ozan's group just arrived.
sJ>l sara
You see Saraswati.
She appears to be a Half-Elf.
She appears to be very young and tall. She has sparkling blue-green eyes and fair skin. She has very long, wavy golden hair.
She is in good shape.
She is holding an orb-topped thick villswood runestaff in her right hand.
She is wearing a jade and golden topaz earring, a glittering silver pin, a gold-trimmed blue spidersilk greatcloak embroidered with the image of a watchful black cat, some forest green elven leathers, a brilliant leopard quartz pin, some braided silk sandals, a small rose, an ora-edged crimson satchel, a shiny bracelet, a crystal amulet, an ornate elven-crafted mithglin helm, and a gold ring.
sJ>speak common
You are now speaking Common.
sJ>
* Giltia just bit the dust!
sJ>
Roldari just came trudging in.
sJ>
Speaking to a timber sloth, Telvanni says, "Time to hunt."
sJ>
Roldari just trudged away moving north.
sJ>'::sara that happens a lot to me here. I'm getting used to it
Speaking to Saraswati, you say, "That happens a lot to me here. I'm getting used to it."


That was after I sent her about 40 mana because she was chomping on manna bread. I didn't get a thanks or anything for it.

And no, I don't use scripts to heal, which is probably why she jumped in front of me. If I'm going to heal, I'm not going to use scripts.

[Olanan]

Icemule sucks, plain and simple

>prep 1106

>channel Kris

It works.

[Chelle]

When I get healed and I nod to a specific person and then someone else vultures me. I simply give the tip to the person I nodded to so to keep the peace in the area. If the person vultured me on accident I tip them both.

[Shari]

Heh, I do that too. When someone nods and someone else jumps in, I tip the nodder.

I had an empath at one time (I know, shocking right?) and it drove me INSANE when people would just leap. I know nodding isn't a set in stone rule, but damn people.

[Miss X]

If Im not playing Chica and I need healing I always just whisper to someone who seems decent. If Im playing Chica, most of the time I only heal when people ask me directly. Dealing with other empaths is 9 times out of 10 the most annoying interaction ever.

[Czeska]

As a rule, my empath hates empaths. Chica not withstanding.

[Buckwheet]

Is it at all possible they missed your nod?

[Stanley Burrell]

My empath doesn't do shit aside from resembling a Barumples knock-off and bitching at other empaths about how puny they are.

He turned level 7 yesterday after four-five years of the silly bastard being in the works :thumbup:

He's also autistic.

[Leetahkin]

If they missed my nod, they also missed me talking about them openly.
I think at one time Kris was played by one of two people - herself or her in game lover. Can't remember if that was her or not, but I think so.
Could be they were multi-accounting at the time, but that doesn't excuse them.

Also, if missing my nod is the reason, a lot of empaths are missing/ignoring my nods to people. She's not the first in the past few days that have jumped on someone. Only one has apologized. The rest pretended like nothing happened. :shrug:

[StJimmy]

If you're an empath who sits in a cental area, I'd think it would be pretty standard for some text highlighting, I especially highlight nods.

Ok, I use a script to heal, because I'll be damned if I'm going to sit there and look at every wound and then trans 1 by 1 each wound and then blood, while attempting to keep myself alive. But everything else I do is all manual.

What annoys the crap out of me, is when I'm sitting around and someone comes in and says the word healing (or any other variation on the word) and before I even have a chance to push the 'n' key on the keyboard to nod, some whore has already trans'd all wounds to themselves, taken all blood and has already started to heal themselves.

Of course they always end it with an identical thank you each time they're tipped. Makes me want to put an arrow through their eye.

[Sean of the Thread]

I loathe all World Police..errr Empaths unless I'm in Cybah Lovah mode.

[Buckwheet]

If you're an empath who sits in a cental area, I'd think it would be pretty standard for some text highlighting, I especially highlight nods.

I think you might be putting too much faith in the idea that people are this intelligent.

I don't mean to sound like I am disagreeing with you, but lately the intelligence I have seen in newer healers, is frankly astonishing. They nod to you when you have level 2-3 wounds, and then fire off their script only to watch them strain over you a dozen times because they can only do minors. I have even seen them ask people to start giving me herbs to heal them down so they get the minors, when there are 2-3 others sitting there who could easily have taken them.

Maybe they missed the nod, because they just think you are greeting someone.

[CrystalTears]

I don't mean to sound like I am disagreeing with you, but lately the intelligence I have seen in newer healers, is frankly astonishing. They nod to you when you have level 2-3 wounds, and then fire off their script only to watch them strain over you a dozen times because they can only do minors. I have even seen them ask people to start giving me herbs to heal them down so they get the minors, when there are 2-3 others sitting there who could easily have taken them. This isn't really new, just typical empath behavior that's been around for a bit.

They have to nod for the big heals, which frankly is absurd to me that you would have to get permission to heal a bleeding a person, but not someone who is just injured. And then I've seen them make a big deal about nodding to someone yet they can't even heal and give them herbs to heal down. WTF. If you can't heal it, don't do it and stick to what you can, unless you have an empath working with you to make learning a goal.

This vulturing mentality, as though that will be the last injured person in the game, has never been something I've been able to comprehend. But I guess this is a tangent for another day that's already been regurgitated countless of times anyway.

As far as the nodding goes, if you're nodding and they're being ignored, then just heal on request without the nod. When people start freaking out that you're not nodding, you can say that you were but being ignored. Screw it. Fend for yourself, since they have no problem doing it, and that way you don't have to sit in a corner and drool cause no one saw you nod. There will be another injured person soon after. No really.

[Sean]

So be proactive and do more healing and less nodding. Unless bitching you think bitching about it is really going to change anything. In which case you should reference the 800 other threads whining about empaths poaching their wounds.

[Skeeter]

I throw my tip on the ground, and watch those bitches kill each other trying to get it first.

[AnticorRifling]

Ohh you meant like money.... Yeah I thought of something else that is much funnier.

[CrystalTears]

Ohh you meant like money.... Yeah I thought of something else that is much funnier.:lol: Hate you for putting that image in my head now.

[zhelas]

I think you might be putting too much faith in the idea that people are this intelligent.

I don't mean to sound like I am disagreeing with you, but lately the intelligence I have seen in newer healers, is frankly astonishing. They nod to you when you have level 2-3 wounds, and then fire off their script only to watch them strain over you a dozen times because they can only do minors. I have even seen them ask people to start giving me herbs to heal them down so they get the minors, when there are 2-3 others sitting there who could easily have taken them.

Maybe they missed the nod, because they just think you are greeting someone.

I have been guilty in the past of being a young healer that will nod to a level wound that I normally can not get. However, I always carried a stock pile of herbs that would heal that level of wound. I would have my patient eat that herb and I would finish the healing. Sometimes that is all you can do if you wish to help them. Especially if there are no other healers around.

If you nod to a patient the healer should take ownership and the welfare of the patient, if they die you are responsible.

The highlighting of the nod? That should be healing 101.

[Leetahkin]

My little healer (okay, she's 15 trains) has become good friends with a few younger healers. She takes them under her wing when they are around, and helps heal people when they cannot get the person's bleeders.

And then when a rude healer comes in and takes all the business, we whisper about them behind their back and have a good time, keeping our time sitting there fun.

About the gazillion other threads about empaths complaining, I've never read them, or forgot about them by now. I usually didn't go into a thread unless it had to do with rogues or general gemstone stuff. :shrug:

[Amber]

I have been guilty in the past of being a young healer that will nod to a level wound that I normally can not get. However, I always carried a stock pile of herbs that would heal that level of wound. I would have my patient eat that herb and I would finish the healing. Sometimes that is all you can do if you wish to help them. Especially if there are no other healers around.

If you nod to a patient the healer should take ownership and the welfare of the patient, if they die you are responsible.

The highlighting of the nod? That should be healing 101.

Ditto on everything you've just said. My empath also tries to help out younger empaths, letting them take the wounds they can and finishing up the ones they can't, on the rare occasions she heals anymore. I never would have believed how bitchy empaths can be to each other if I hadn't seen it for myself. I started my empath after I'd been playing gs for about a month because I saw them as generous, big-hearted folks from the interactions my other character had had with them and wanted to do my part to help other folks. Tried going to sit in TSC when my empath had finished the sprite quests, just to watch and learn, because she wasn't ready to heal people yet, but was just amazed at the rudeness of some empaths. True, there were a lot of good folks around who helped her out a lot, and there really are lots of decent empaths out there, but there are so many who couldn't care less about anything other than the experience they garner from healing...no rp, no interactions, no friendliness at all, just human wound vacuums. It can get very frustrating.

[Dwarven Empath]

I don't think empaths should heal untill they can heal what they transfer. I also don't like it when a empath asks to be healed, because they are not trained for the wound they just took.

Even though..I will heal them, I still don't approve of it.

Just hunt.

Medi...

[Drew]

If they missed my nod, they also missed me talking about them openly.
I think at one time Kris was played by one of two people - herself or her in game lover. Can't remember if that was her or not, but I think so.
Could be they were multi-accounting at the time, but that doesn't excuse them.

Also, if missing my nod is the reason, a lot of empaths are missing/ignoring my nods to people. She's not the first in the past few days that have jumped on someone. Only one has apologized. The rest pretended like nothing happened. :shrug:



I know Kris well so I can say you're wrong. She doesn't know anything about scripting at all really, doesn't use them. But also when she does heal, which isn't often because she hates it, I don't think she really cares too much about other empaths.

[Bobmuhthol]

To the, "same thank you messages suck," person, I say to you:

>.thankyou
Executing script: thankyou.cmd with parameters ""
Loading thankyou.cmd into memory.
Loaded 15 phrases.
Loaded 17 tones.
PUT: SAY :cheerful Thanks a bunch!
You cheerfully exclaim, "Thanks a bunch!"
>
* Miniandra just bit the dust!
>.thankyou
Executing script: thankyou.cmd with parameters ""
PUT: SAY :merry Ooh, thanks!
You merrily exclaim, "Ooh, thanks!"
>.thankyou
Executing script: thankyou.cmd with parameters ""
PUT: SAY :abrupt Thank you very much!
You abruptly exclaim, "Thank you very much!"
>.thankyou
Executing script: thankyou.cmd with parameters ""
PUT: SAY :happy Hey, thank you!
You happily exclaim, "Hey, thank you!"
>.thankyou
Executing script: thankyou.cmd with parameters ""
PUT: SAY :clear Thank you!
You clearly exclaim, "Thank you!"
>.thankyou
Executing script: thankyou.cmd with parameters ""
PUT: SAY :appreciative Hey, thanks a bunch!
You appreciatively exclaim, "Hey, thanks a bunch!"
>.thankyou
Executing script: thankyou.cmd with parameters ""
PUT: SAY :gleeful Hey, thanks!
You gleefully exclaim, "Hey, thanks!"
>.thankyou
Executing script: thankyou.cmd with parameters ""
PUT: SAY :clear Thanks.
You clearly say, "Thanks."
>.thankyou
Executing script: thankyou.cmd with parameters ""
PUT: SAY :warm Hey, thank you!
You warmly exclaim, "Hey, thank you!"
>.thankyou
Executing script: thankyou.cmd with parameters ""
PUT: SAY :jubilant Hey, thanks a bunch!
You jubilantly exclaim, "Hey, thanks a bunch!"
>.thankyou
Executing script: thankyou.cmd with parameters ""
PUT: SAY :soft Thanks a ton!
You softly exclaim, "Thanks a ton!"
>.thankyou
Executing script: thankyou.cmd with parameters ""
PUT: SAY :cheerful Ooh, thanks!
You cheerfully exclaim, "Ooh, thanks!"
>.thankyou
Executing script: thankyou.cmd with parameters ""
PUT: SAY :quick Thanks, I appreciate it!
.thankyou
Executing script: thankyou.cmd with parameters ""
PUT: SAY :warm Thanks.
You quickly exclaim, "Thanks, I appreciate it!"
>You warmly say, "Thanks."
>.thankyou
Executing script: thankyou.cmd with parameters ""
PUT: SAY :cheerful Fantastic, thanks!
You cheerfully exclaim, "Fantastic, thanks!"
>.thankyou
Executing script: thankyou.cmd with parameters ""
PUT: SAY :cheerful Wonderful! Thank you.
You cheerfully say, "Wonderful! Thank you."
>.thankyou
Executing script: thankyou.cmd with parameters ""
PUT: SAY :merry Thank you very much.
You merrily say, "Thank you very much."
>.thankyou
Executing script: thankyou.cmd with parameters ""
PUT: SAY :happy Thanks, I appreciate it!
You happily exclaim, "Thanks, I appreciate it!"
>.thankyou
Executing script: thankyou.cmd with parameters ""
PUT: SAY :merry Thanks.
.thankyou
Executing script: thankyou.cmd with parameters ""
PUT: SAY :sheepish Fantastic, thanks!
.thankyou
Executing script: thankyou.cmd with parameters ""
PUT: SAY :merry Hey, thanks a bunch!
You merrily say, "Thanks."
>You sheepishly exclaim, "Fantastic, thanks!"
>
You merrily exclaim, "Hey, thanks a bunch!"
>.thankyou
Executing script: thankyou.cmd with parameters ""
PUT: SAY :jubilant Thanks.
You jubilantly say, "Thanks."
>.thankyou
Executing script: thankyou.cmd with parameters ""
PUT: SAY :tender Thank you.
You tenderly say, "Thank you."
>.thankyou
Executing script: thankyou.cmd with parameters ""
PUT: SAY :merry Hey, thank you!
.thankyou
Executing script: thankyou.cmd with parameters ""
PUT: SAY :grateful Thanks, I appreciate it!
You merrily exclaim, "Hey, thank you!"
>You gratefully exclaim, "Thanks, I appreciate it!"
>.thankyou
Executing script: thankyou.cmd with parameters ""
PUT: SAY :emphatic Thanks.
You emphatically say, "Thanks."
>.thankyou
Executing script: thankyou.cmd with parameters ""
PUT: SAY :warm Hey, thanks a bunch!
You warmly exclaim, "Hey, thanks a bunch!"
>.thankyou
Executing script: thankyou.cmd with parameters ""
PUT: SAY :quick Thank you.
You quickly say, "Thank you."
>.thankyou
Executing script: thankyou.cmd with parameters ""
PUT: SAY :clear Hey, thank you!
You clearly exclaim, "Hey, thank you!"
>.thankyou
Executing script: thankyou.cmd with parameters ""
PUT: SAY :emphatic Hey, thanks!
.thankyou
Executing script: thankyou.cmd with parameters ""
PUT: SAY :abrupt Thanks!
You emphatically exclaim, "Hey, thanks!"
>.thankyou
Executing script: thankyou.cmd with parameters ""
PUT: SAY :hesitant Hey, thanks!
You abruptly exclaim, "Thanks!"
>
You hesitantly exclaim, "Hey, thanks!"
>


#autothank.Cmd
loop:
set number 0
matchbool ok $person$ just gave you $number$ coins which you quickly pocket.
matchbool ok $person$ offers you a
matchwait
if(%person% == Tayre) goto loop
if(%person% == Bobmuhthol) goto loop
if(%person% == Loim) goto loop
if(%person% == Steizer) goto loop
if(%number% > 0)
goto coins
else
goto item
endif
coins:
pause
put smile %person%
waitfor You smile
spawnquiet thankyou.cmd
goto loop
item:
pause
put smile %person%
waitfor You smile
put accept
waitfor You accept
spawnquiet thankyou.cmd
pause
put stow right
waitfor You put
goto loop

[Olanan]

:no:

[Leetahkin]

Kudos to the people who can make and use scripts.
I guess I'm a bit old fashioned and prefer to be doing something while I'm in game.
Maybe it's a matter of pride.... dunno.

And Drew, you made my point. She doesn't give a flying fig about other healers and will vulture.

[Sean of the Thread]

lol people used to get mad that my empath would only heal me (via script).

Can't win I tell ya.

[Drew]

And Drew, you made my point. She doesn't give a flying fig about other healers and will vulture.


Well I talked to her and she said she thought she had nodded first to begin with but the girl had died three times in the last couple of hours from bloodloss and that she was worried about her.

[Divinity]

Heh, I remember when Kristalis was a 2-bit nothing puff. Then I found out why she was a b*tch most of the time.. it was a dood playing her.

I don't know if Kristalis has passed hands or not, so happy trails with that.

[Amber]

I don't think empaths should heal untill they can heal what they transfer. I also don't like it when a empath asks to be healed, because they are not trained for the wound they just took.

Even though..I will heal them, I still don't approve of it.

Just hunt.

Medi...
If I remember correctly from when my empath was younger, you can't transfer a wound you can't heal. You can, however, transfer a wound where you already have one, which will result in a level 2 wound which younger empaths can't heal. I know mistakes happen, and will heal younger empaths that have wounds they can't deal with, but I also think younger empaths should have a goodly supply of herbs to help themselves.

[Bobmuhthol]

<<If I remember correctly from when my empath was younger, you can't transfer a wound you can't heal.>>

I think it's level based; it's possible to not have the spell.