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Shari
05-23-2006, 02:42 AM
I know its because I moved stats around, but I don't know WHAT the determining factor is to be able to raise someone without a failure.

Armor Use..........................| 40 8
Physical Fitness...................| 90 20
Magic Item Use.....................| 90 20
Harness Power......................| 136 38
Spiritual Lore - Religion..........| 90 20
Climbing...........................| 40 8
Swimming...........................| 40 8

Spell Lists
Major Spirit.......................| 19

Spell Lists
Minor Spirit.......................| 17

Spell Lists
Cleric.............................| 19

Someone clue me in?

Stunseed
05-23-2006, 02:45 AM
You need 24 ranks of Spiritual Mana Control ( SMC ) to ensure you can raise.

Kitsun
05-23-2006, 03:01 AM
Yeah you totally missed the SMC ranks. I bet that raise wasn't a fun experience.

Skeeter
05-23-2006, 11:15 AM
Didn't they nerf rez failure to the point where it doesn't even kill you anymore?

Landrion
05-23-2006, 11:30 AM
Didn't they nerf rez failure to the point where it doesn't even kill you anymore?

The last time it happened to me it was major nerve damage and loss of mana. In fact it was totally negated by the empath who fogged in the deader in the first place. Healed the wound and shared some mana over for me to try again.

Janarth
05-23-2006, 02:07 PM
You still need SOME SMC, even if the failure only impacts the cleric. Your chance of raising is proportional to your SMC skill. So...10 ranks of SMC, 50% chance of raising. 24 ranks for 100% (well, technically...102%). However, with no SMC, you'll never get a successful raise. I've found 30 ranks to be a good place for clerics...100% raising, adequate sharing, 3 frames with 319 and +3 to your pulse.

Lassiter 506
05-23-2006, 02:59 PM
If I'm not mistaken, the third damage cycle of 319 comes from 40 ranks of religion lore. SMC bolsters the secondary crits from each attack frame, but not the number of attack frames. When I cap my cleric, he'll be shooting for 95 ranks of SMC. This offers good mana back per pulse, +10 CS to Spirit Slayer, and the 319 crits for my Charl priest are awesome. With 320 still up in the air, SMC may prove even more useful.

Janarth
05-23-2006, 05:19 PM
Lassiter may be/is probably right :p Thats what I get for not checking my facts (I can't at work).

Alfster
05-23-2006, 07:44 PM
Please tell me you didn't fix skills into that and not realize you wont be able to raise....

Drayal
05-23-2006, 07:51 PM
It won't take long to get the ranks to raise. It's not a total fixskills failure.

Shari
05-24-2006, 03:29 AM
Oh fuck yeah I fixskilled it without the SMC. I mean come on, you really expect me to not fuck over the training of my characters? Its 24 ranks and I'm dropping my MIU to get what I need. Its going to take 5 days to do that so I figure I just log her in and camp her at a table while I'm camping (literally) this weekend, it should burn a good amount of that time off.

I know, STUPID. My goal was to train her as a raise-only cleric, and I fucked it up.

Stunseed
05-24-2006, 03:35 AM
When I first got Keyvon back into GS4, I didn't train in Harness Power. I had a 38th trained Wizard with 31 mana. Your snafu is small in comparison.

Shari
05-25-2006, 03:45 AM
ROFL, that sucks, Stunseed.

Its not like I play her very often at all. In fact, with all the invasions lately I was sick of having Nalina's ass handed to her so I reactivated the cleric to get at least ONE of my chars exp. I'm just gonna deactivate her again til I get my next fixskills.

Axhinde
05-26-2006, 12:11 PM
Just don't quit Voln to join CoL and forget you resigned from CoL 6 years ago. Gogo no society!

Alfster
05-26-2006, 12:15 PM
Just don't quit Voln to join CoL and forget you resigned from CoL 6 years ago. Gogo no society!

I still can't believe you did that

Axhinde
05-26-2006, 12:18 PM
Khaladon's response was classic when I talked to him about it.

"You're an idiot."

rofl

Shari
05-26-2006, 05:34 PM
HAHAHA