Hunting with Fire Spirit and Empathic Assault

[Renian]

Just a quick question here.

About how many ranks in Mental Lore, Transformation does one need in order to make 1110 pwn with the bolt alone? Basically, what is optimal?

How may ranks in Spiritual Lore, Summoning does one need to make Fire Spirit very effective? I hear it pwns hardcore with enough of them.

[Renian]

The fact that no one knows makes me sad. :(

[Snapp]

Empaths are usually my specialty, but I have no idea on either of those.

[Czeska]

With 6 ranks of summoning I can hit 4 creatures with 111.

I have enough transformation for healing RTs that I know it affects 1110, but I have no clue when. 20 ranks of Manip. for 3 CS cycles rocks, though.

[Kelcie]

I have 48 ranks in transformation and in an invasion the max I've noticed that I've hit is with 111 is 9.

Noticed being the key word because in an invasion you dont always notice everything.

I dont hunt with 1110 since I have enough mana and levels to hunt with 1106 and not ever have to leave the hunting area.

[Asha]

I have 48 ranks in transformation and in an invasion the max I've noticed that I've hit is with 111 is 9.

Noticed being the key word because in an invasion you dont always notice everything.

I dont hunt with 1110 since I have enough mana and levels to hunt with 1106 and not ever have to leave the hunting area.

I had no idea transormation had anything to do with fire spirit.
Unless you have spirit summoning lore, which might be the actual factor giving you such multiple targets.

[Czeska]

Summoning is what adds targets, yes.

[Renian]

20 ranks of Manip. for 3 CS cycles rocks, though.

I thought you need telepathy...?

[Snapp]

from the website
Training in the following lores provide added benefits to Empathic Assault:

Mental Lore, Transformation increases the bolt Damage Factor (DF) of the spell.

Mental Lore, Manipulation modifies the warding margin on successful wardings.

Mental Lore, Divination decreases the foe's Target Defense (TD) by a maximum of 13.

Mental Lore, Telepathy increases the number of CS attack cycles.

I know I have 5 ranks of telepathy to get 2 CS cycles.

[Czeska]

yeah sorry, my bad for posting half asleep. Telepathy for CS cycles. Manip for bone shatter goodness.

[Sean of the Thread]

Chica is my boneshatter dominatrix.

[Kelcie]

gah, yeah sorry it is summoning, thats what happens when I post half asleep. I have 45 ranks in summoning

[WRoss]

I just recently switched over from a bolting empath to a two hander. I was only 30 trains and had 32 ranks in transformation, 5 ranks in telepathy, and 15 ranks in summoning. I know thats a lot of points for bolting, but using 1110 alone is just not powerful enough. You have to allow time for the spell cycles to cast out. Thats what the summoning lore is for. Casting 1110, followed by 111 worked well for me. Plus the extra flares that stun other stuff in the room allows you to cast 1110 at the stunned victim. If you're still following me...thats damage being done to two critters by 1110 and the spell cycles as well as damage from 111 and its flares...nasty combo but a lot of mana. In later trains I planned on getting lores to 20 for all the 1110 lores.