Recently reactivated, need help

[Jiire]

My characters name is Jiire, the rogue. I deactivated about, 5 or 6 years ago and reactivated today to find alot of changes. Just looking for some help in getting reaquainted with how us rogues work these days, heres my information:

Name: Jiire Piranos Race: Half-Elf Profession: Rogue (shown as: Locksmith)
Gender: Male Age: 413 Expr: 636476 Level: 23
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 97 (23) ... 97 (23)
Constitution (CON): 67 (8) ... 67 (8)
Dexterity (DEX): 97 (28) ... 97 (28)
Agility (AGI): 99 (34) ... 99 (34)
Discipline (DIS): 76 (8) ... 76 (8)
Aura (AUR): 75 (12) ... 75 (12)
Logic (LOG): 61 (5) ... 61 (5)
Intuition (INT): 61 (5) ... 61 (5)
Wisdom (WIS): 63 (6) ... 63 (6)
Influence (INF): 43 (2) ... 43 (2)

Jiire (at level 23), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 143 43
Shield Use.........................| 143 43
Combat Maneuvers...................| 108 26
Edged Weapons......................| 150 50
Ambush.............................| 128 34
Physical Fitness...................| 102 24
Dodging............................| 141 41
Survival...........................| 58 12
Disarming Traps....................| 158 58
Picking Locks......................| 158 58
Stalking and Hiding................| 150 50
Perception.........................| 145 45
Climbing...........................| 62 13
Swimming...........................| 54 11
First Aid..........................| 58 12
Training Points: 0 Phy 55 Mnt (204 Mnt converted to Phy)
(Use SKILLS BASE to display unmodified ranks and goals)

12 days remain until the annual FIXSKILLS is to be granted, on 05/20/2006.

Your 30 day migration period will begin when you choose to degrade a skill.

Further information can be found in SKILL FAQS.

---and i recieved this message when i logged on today

Notice: Your training grace period is scheduled to end at 6/7/2006 14:47:25 CDT (more than a week from now). When this time has passed, you will no longer be able to adjust your stats, and your skill migration will proceed at the normal rate (i.e., not accelerated like it is now).

---i also know that Combat manuevers were changed to actual maneuvers rather than just doge, and i have some of those to train in a guess? ANyway, thanks ahead of time for any help

[Snapp]

Is there anything specific you were looking to do?

As far as the combat maneuvers go, type CMAN LIST to see which ones are avaiable to you. You can type CMAN HELP to see what each maneuver does.

[Kitsun]

Sword and board is still effective but you have a lot more options as far as hunting styles now.

You can go with:
Two-handed weapons
Two weapon combat
Archery

You can fit in lockpicking into your plan if you want, pickpocketing is plenty easy too. Damn near any option will work now. If you like to experiment with your options I'd do so before the quick migration is up.

[Jiire]

Is there anything specific you were looking to do?

As far as the combat maneuvers go, type CMAN LIST to see which ones are avaiable to you. You can type CMAN HELP to see what each maneuver does.

Well i want to be a good picker and ambusher, dont need to steal from people. From what im hearing, my training isnt going to differ much\

Heres what i had in mind

Jiire (at level 23), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 143 43 (was 2x until lvl 19 i believe, 1x from there on in)
Shield Use.........................| 143 43 (same as armor, 1x now, was 2x)
Combat Maneuvers...................| 108 26 (1x, if extra points, put them here occasionally)
Edged Weapons......................| 150 50 (full train)
Ambush.............................| 128 34 (2x)
Physical Fitness...................| 102 24 (1x)
Dodging............................| 141 41 (2x)
Survival...........................| 58 12 (every other level)
Disarming Traps....................| 158 58 (2x) - Sometimes put extra points here
Picking Locks......................| 158 58 (2x) - Sometimes put extra points here
Stalking and Hiding................| 150 50 (2x)
Perception.........................| 145 45 (2x)
Climbing...........................| 62 13 (Occasionally with extra points)
Swimming...........................| 54 11 (occasionally with extra points)
First Aid..........................| 58 12 (occasionally with extra points)

Also i have a problem with low mana under the new systems, only have 3 mana, so i was told to put a point into harness power every once in a while.

Thoughts? Comments, Suggestions?

[Apotheosis]

Umm.. Better off quitting GS. not worth the reactivation, seriously.

[Asha]

If it holds interest for a few weeks or a month then I think it is worth it.
Enjoy the new changes. Cmans in themselves are gonna be a load of fun to discover for you.

[Gan]

Here's my rogue, whom I consider a balanced hunter and picker with a little pickpocket thrown in. Use this info if it helps.
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Ganalon (at level 81), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 180 80
Shield Use.........................| 181 81
Combat Maneuvers...................| 181 81
Edged Weapons......................| 266 166
Ambush.............................| 261 161
Physical Fitness...................| 166 66
Dodging............................| 182 82
Arcane Symbols.....................| 108 26
Magic Item Use.....................| 50 10
Harness Power......................| 40 8
Disarming Traps....................| 344 244
Picking Locks......................| 342 242
Stalking and Hiding................| 346 246
Perception.........................| 347 247
Climbing...........................| 120 30
Swimming...........................| 120 30
Pickpocketing......................| 264 164
Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 4

>cman info
Ganalon, your Combat Maneuver training is as follows:
Skill name Mnemonic Ranks
Shadow Mastery smastery 4
Silent Strike silentstrike 3
Specialization II wspec2 5
Surge of Strength surge 3
Cutthroat cutthroat 1
Available Combat Maneuver Training Points: 1

<Master of COL>

>profile ganalon
Name: Ganalon O'Grady
Race: Human Gender: Male
Age: in the flower of life (41)
Date of Birth: 11/20/5064
Clan: Vornavis
He currently has full citizenship in Isle of the Four Winds.
Member of Silvergate Inn
Most difficult lock picked: -1150
Most difficult trap disarmed: -450

>gld rank ganalon
Ganalon is a 249 rank Guild Master of the Rogue Guild.
Master of Sweep.
Master of Stun Maneuvers.
Master of Rogue Gambits.

[GuildRat]

I'm not sure if this'll help....but I'll post up my junk and explanations to the training:


Name: XXXXXXXX Race: Half-Elf Profession: Rogue (shown as: Scoundrel)
Gender: Male Age: 87 Expr: 6742064 Level: 92
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
Constitution (CON): 96 (23) ... 96 (23)
Dexterity (DEX): 97 (28) ... 97 (28)
Agility (AGI): 100 (35) ... 100 (35)
Discipline (DIS): 99 (19) ... 99 (19)
Aura (AUR): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
Logic (LOG): 98 (24) ... 98 (24)
Intuition (INT): 96 (23) ... 96 (23)
Wisdom (WIS): 93 (21) ... 93 (21)
Influence (INF): 67 (13) ... 67 (13)

Level 0 Stats for XXXXXX, Half-Elf Rogue

Strength (STR): 68
Constitution (CON): 70
Dexterity (DEX): 60
Agility (AGI): 60
Discipline (DIS): 78
Aura (AUR): 83
Logic (LOG): 73
Intuition (INT): 61
Wisdom (WIS): 82
Influence (INF): 25

Stats are pretty self explanatory. I placed them for maximum scores at or near cap. Just as a note, I would definitely drop the strength even lower if I had it to over again, even tho it would make hunting at a young age a little tougher. Infuence would take a hit too, and I'd dump those extras into wisdom, con, and intuition.

You seem to be in one piece.

Maximum Health Points: 158
Remaining Health Points: 158

Maximum Spirit Points: 10
Remaining Spirit Points: 10

Maximum Stamina Points: 119
Remaining Stamina Points: 119


XXXXXX (at level 92), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 210 110
Shield Use.........................| 197 97
Combat Maneuvers...................| 229 129
Edged Weapons......................| 288 188
Ambush.............................| 255 155
Physical Fitness...................| 212 112
Dodging............................| 257 157
Arcane Symbols.....................| 90 20
Magic Item Use.....................| 90 20
Harness Power......................| 54 11
Disarming Traps....................| 340 240
Stalking and Hiding................| 275 175
Perception.........................| 278 178
Climbing...........................| 105 25
Swimming...........................| 114 28

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 25


As for the training plan, it had always been my plan to wear half plate armor, thus the outrageous armor training. Singling in shield has been fine, but I find myself with spare points so I kick those into shield and physical training, for redux purposes. I'll let whoever wants to do the math figure out what the training comes to, e.g., 1.5x, 2x, etc.

Weapon training is a personal choice. I chose to stick with axe and board (I hate sword and board, axes do so much more for me). I know some ranged rogues that do well in the barrier and some that don't fare so well. Personally I think it's all in your hunting strategy. Just remember you're not a juggernaut and you'll usually walk or crawl out alive.

At 90 I dropped picking altogether, kept disarm and picked up 25 ranks in MinE. That's pretty self explanatory to any rogue that hunts in the barrier and has been spell-raped before. Now I wedge everything except scales boxes and they find their way into the barrel.

Just in case you're not wanting to use points for spells, and you plan on making it into an area with spellburst, I'd plan on picking up alot of MIU and arcane symbols. The more training you have in those, the more spells you can wear in spellburst areas.

Keep the swimming and climbing basic...just enough to get to where you need to go. 25-30 ranks of each should do just that.

As for survival and first aid? BLECH!! Wasted points if you ask me. I can hunt for coin just as fast as I could skin for coin. ::shrug::


XXXXXX, your Combat Maneuver training is as follows:

Skill name Mnemonic Ranks
Combat Focus focus 5
Specialization I wspec1 5
Surge of Strength surge 5
Cutthroat cutthroat 4

CMANs, CMANs, CMANs...I wish I had more points to dump into this for AS, DS and the cool shit you can do to people ::cough::, I mean critters. I'm working toward doubling, but I don't see that happening till post-cap.


Name: XXXXXX
Profession: Scoundrel
Race: Half-Elf Gender: Male
Age: young (87)
Most difficult lock picked: -1200
Most difficult trap disarmed: -480

The trap is still correct, but the locksmithing is gone. Just a personal preference. I'd rather stay alive in the barrier than drug to the portal. Tho that still happens every now and then.

You are a Grandmaster of the Rogue Guild.
You are current with your dues and must check in again sometime in the next 6 days.
You currently have 372 ranks out of a possible 372 for your training.

You are a Master of Sweep.

You are a Master of Subdue.

You are a Master of Stun Maneuvers.

You are a Master of Lock Mastery.

You are a Master of Cheap Shot.

You are a Master of Rogue Gambits.

Get your guild work done early. The 2 I use most at 92 are cheapshots and stun maneuvers. Sure it may be easy to get sweep reps, but stun-mans are gonna save your ass a hella-lot more than sweep.

Sorry this is such a long post, but I hope it's been helpful to someone. Feel free to offer pointers or point out any shortfalls you may see in the training here. I may not agree, but I'm pretty good at taking constructive criticism.

[Asha]

1 coin on Grandmaster rogue.

[GuildRat]

HAHAHA...it's not selling...it's a reply to the thread.

[Asha]

I know. Just pointing out that I desire that character. :)
That's one of three Grandmasters I've seen.

[GuildRat]

There's more about in Illistim...I can think of at least 3 more off the top of my head. But you're right...that title alone, will surpass even capping in my lists of accomplishments for GS3/4.