Too Small?

[Rolis]

Has anyone done much exploring with the new mechanics of not being able to ambush things because of being too small? Are there many creatures that elf size characters can not effectively ambush specific location because they are too small? Can a halfling ambush things that elf size characters could not? Can some things not be ambush by any race or is it a matter of if a creature is 3 sizes smallers(for lack of better phrase) that they can aim a hit to a specific location?

thanks

[Sean of the Thread]

That's what she said.

[Ebondale]

To you.

[Medri]

Has anyone done much exploring with the new mechanics of not being able to ambush things because of being too small? Are there many creatures that elf size characters can not effectively ambush specific location because they are too small? Can a halfling ambush things that elf size characters could not? Can some things not be ambush by any race or is it a matter of if a creature is 3 sizes smallers(for lack of better phrase) that they can aim a hit to a specific location?

thanks

Yes, for instance, here's a clip of a log, I use TWC...

You attempt to blend with the surroundings and feel confident that no one has noticed your doing so.
HR>amb troll right eye
H>
You leap from hiding to attack!
You swing a raven-hilted vultite talon sword at a thunder troll!
AS: + vs DS: +49 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +33 = +202
... and hit for 46 points of damage!
Crushing blow to head closes that eye for good.
The thunder troll is stunned!
You cannot aim that high!

...

A thunder troll runs northwest.
H>unhide
H>
You do not believe anyone noticed you slip out of hiding.
>put sword in back
You put a raven-hilted vultite talon sword in your vaalin-trimmed backsheaths.
>get dag
You remove a serrated black vultite dagger from in your chain mail gauntlets.
>swap
You swap a serrated black vultite dagger to your left hand and a raven-hilted vultite wakizashi to your right hand.
>nw
[Wehntoph, Northern Slopes]
The trail curves a bit, narrowing around this rim of the hill. Several large boulders loom overhead, nervously perched against flimsy brush. A peek down the hillside reveals a few massive stones that have lost their hold and crashed down the slope. You also see a thunder troll.
Obvious paths: northeast, southeast, up
>hide
Roundtime: 3 sec.
You attempt to blend with the surroundings and feel confident that no one has noticed your doing so.
HR>

HR>amb troll right eye
H>
You cannot aim that high!

[Rolis]

what race are you?

[StrayRogue]

This is hardly terrible. I remember in GS3 where a rogue HAD to sweep or leg a critter.

Perhaps it will make some of the guild skills useful now.

[Shari]

Yeah. My sylvan rogue must leg cyclops before she stabs them in the eye. Otherwise it tells me I can't aim that high.

[Tea & Strumpets]

This is hardly terrible. I remember in GS3 where a rogue HAD to sweep or leg a critter.

Perhaps it will make some of the guild skills useful now.


Yeah, it was so difficult just being able to sweep critters regardless of their stance, let them stand in offensive, sweep again, hide and kill with a 110 end roll.

Woe is me those were tough times!

[Medri]

what race are you?

Aelotoi. If you want to hit tall races you have to subdue them in some way via sweeping, ambushing their legs and making them fall over, etc

edit: oh, an apparently it has to do with weapon length as well. if you noticed, i was wielding a sword and a wakizashi, then a wakizashi and a dagger. The sword could hit but not the other two shorter weapons. I'm not sure if this matters for race or not.

[Amber]

When my little gnome ranger was young, she used a sword to try and ambush a rolton. She couldn't reach high enough to hit him in the leg. Spoke with a GM about it, because if she could hit him in the head when not ambushing, she should be able to reach his leg while aiming, but didn't get any help.

[WRoss]

I have a claidhmore ambushing aelotoi and I haven't really had a problem yet with anything. I'd imagine giants would be hard to hit in the head....but yeah, I use a claidhmore so I just aim for the chest mostly...

[Artha]

Most THWs should be able to hit any part of the body (presuming you've got enough ambush training). I remember ambushing cyclops eyes with a battle axe and never had a problem.

[StrayRogue]

Yeah, it was so difficult just being able to sweep critters regardless of their stance, let them stand in offensive, sweep again, hide and kill with a 110 end roll.

Woe is me those were tough times!

20+ seconds for a kill is terrible.

[Stanley Burrell]

Continue to have 152 ranks of ambush and execute unaimed ambushes to negate RT as well as have the chance (still) of hitting non-aimables parts via this new nerf (this will also help negate some of the retarded RT penalties associated with recent nerd-dom.)

Abdomen also seems to be continue to be a good middle ground for maximum damage infliction and somewhat less RT penalty, although I was testing it out on big fuckin' quadrapeds (red tsarks [wtrick appraised as rather massive]) and it (the ambushing nerf) still has an absolutely dumbshit penalty associated with it for using it on such sized critters assuming they walk on all fours.

Begh.

Stanley Burrell.