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Phenetiix
10-18-2003, 11:21 AM
Is there a cap on your AS when it comes to bows an crossbows?

say you have a 10x crossbow... +50 + ebladed arrow +20 From a master fletcher +5 and you kneel +50.... ( 125 ) Im only 10th train... but that cant be possible, is it still capped at +50 and if it is is another +50 still added if i kneel

CrystalTears
10-18-2003, 11:23 AM
Yes I do think it is capped at +50.

So where you get a 10x crossbow? I'm jealous.

Red Devil
10-18-2003, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by CrystalTears
Yes I do think it is capped at +50.

So where you get a 10x crossbow? I'm jealous.

IT WAS A HYPOTHETICAL QUESTION

not to mention it can't be capped at +50, because you get +50 from kneeling n00blars

[Edited on 10-18-2003 by Red Devil]

StrayRogue
10-18-2003, 11:43 AM
It is capped at 50. Devil is just a mo mo. The +50 bonus for kneeling is an inherant bonus and does not apply.

Basically if you had a +30 longbow (or crossbow) and +25 arrows, the bonus would still only be +50 to your AS. So therefore, mastering fletchery, get your bolts/arrows ebladed and having a +25 ranged weapon, will give you the maximum possible bonus.

However, when it comes to using ones crossbow as a weapon (ie, a s blunt), the ET comes into play.

Red Devil
10-18-2003, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by StrayRogue
It is capped at 50. Devil is just a mo mo. The +50 bonus for kneeling is an inherant bonus and does not apply.

Basically if you had a +30 longbow (or crossbow) and +25 arrows, the bonus would still only be +50 to your AS. So therefore, mastering fletchery, get your bolts/arrows ebladed and having a +25 ranged weapon, will give you the maximum possible bonus.

However, when it comes to using ones crossbow as a weapon (ie, a s blunt), the ET comes into play.

it's not capped at +50 dumbass, ever seen 12x crossbows and such?

Phenetiix
10-18-2003, 11:54 AM
Ive got a 4x cross which adds +20, and +5 arrows, so thats 25, now if'n i kneel and fire then my AS wond be +75 from my base or still +50 so then eventually kneeling doesnt matter anyway..... I think kneeling even if your enchants capped at +50 will still bring you +50 more

Parkbandit
10-18-2003, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by Phenetiix
Ive got a 4x cross which adds +20, and +5 arrows, so thats 25, now if'n i kneel and fire then my AS wond be +75 from my base or still +50 so then eventually kneeling doesnt matter anyway..... I think kneeling even if your enchants capped at +50 will still bring you +50 more

At level 10, you will only get the +20 for the 4x crossbow and the +50 for the kneeling.

At level 11, you will only get the +20 for the 4x crossbow, the +50 for the kneeling and +2 for the master fletched arrows.

At level 12, you will only get the +20 for the 4x crossbow, the +50 for the kneeling and the +4 for the master fletched arrows.

You take your level and multiply it by 2. That is the maximum advantage you will gain from the enchantment/arrow combined. At level 10, it's +20... at level 11, it's +22.

With your hypothetical 10x crossbow (+50) you will need to be 25 to gain full advantage of the +50 AS for the crossbow alone. Use master fletched arrows and you will still only gain the +50 AS as it is capped at +50. There are very rare exceptions, but those would be of specially created weapons only.

The +50 for kneeling isn't part of the AS formula when dealing with enchantments.

Parkbandit
10-18-2003, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by Red Devil
it's not capped at +50 dumbass, ever seen 12x crossbows and such?

12x crossbows are the very very rare exception. These are specially created weapons which are extremely rare... so they do not actually count. All weapon bases are capped at +50 or 10x enchanted.

Dumbass.

Red Devil
10-18-2003, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by Parkbandit

Originally posted by Red Devil
it's not capped at +50 dumbass, ever seen 12x crossbows and such?

12x crossbows are the very very rare exception. These are specially created weapons which are extremely rare... so they do not actually count. All weapon bases are capped at +50 or 10x enchanted.

Dumbass.


how do they "not count", dumbass?

StrayRogue
10-18-2003, 01:01 PM
You are an idiot Devil, who knows fuck all about mechanics. Bandit was correct. Some item DO NOT COUNT. How about the shield that gives you 2 DS for every rank or so, millions of the other items as well. What about the elemental bows?

Phenetiix, trust me and Bandit, I won't stroke either of our egoe's, but we both will have forgotten alot more than Devil will ever know.

It caps at 50, at the appropriate age. The bonus for kneeling is an extra "kick" that stands alone from the enchantment.

CrystalTears
10-18-2003, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by Red Devil

Originally posted by CrystalTears
So where you get a 10x crossbow? I'm jealous.

IT WAS A HYPOTHETICAL QUESTION


I'm going to break my own code and say this just once...

You're such a jerk.

ANYway, that's why I said yes it's capped at +50 for the weapon, I wasn't counting the kneeling.

StrayRogue
10-18-2003, 03:58 PM
Why isn't Devil banned yet CT? Surely he needs more reasons to go permanently back to the Stoners Realm.

IcyPoison
10-18-2003, 04:01 PM
Originally posted by Lady Daina
I thought it was kind of funny when my ranger *finally* started making master quality arrows, she made a bundle for a friend. He had them e-bladed. When in the bundle, there was no problem. When he fired them, they had an additional 25. When he tried to pick them up to re-bundle them, he couldn't touch them. He was too young to hold 5x. :D

Off topic, but thats a really cute picture of your child his daddys boots.

Phenetiix
10-18-2003, 08:43 PM
so heck you dont even need a 10x crossbow if you got eblades and +5 Arrows... Great i can get the +50 bonus much earlier then all the hackers an slashers!!!
Eat my AS

StrayRogue
10-18-2003, 08:58 PM
Yup, pretty much. 5x is pretty much all you'll need once you get master work and ebladed arrows.

Phenetiix
10-19-2003, 01:59 AM
Great!
Now... how the heck do I reroll My Ranged Ranger for GS4...

I played around with it just now and places some high stats :
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 94 (22) ... 94 (22)
Constitution (CON): 32 (-14) ... 32 (-14)
Dexterity (DEX): 100 (35) ... 100 (35)
Agility (AGI): 75 (17) ... 75 (17)
Discipline (DIS): 73 (1) ... 73 (1)
Aura (AUR): 72 (21) ... 72 (21)
Logic (LOG): 39 (-5) ... 39 (-5)
Intuition (INT): 100 (30) ... 100 (30)
Wisdom (WIS): 94 (27) ... 94 (27)
Influence (INF): 26 (-17) ... 26 (-17)

Who knows but my stats increase so quick while i was reallocating, so much of it went +1 up each train

Red Devil
10-19-2003, 10:46 AM
Originally posted by StrayRogue
You are an idiot Devil, who knows fuck all about mechanics. Bandit was correct. Some item DO NOT COUNT. How about the shield that gives you 2 DS for every rank or so, millions of the other items as well. What about the elemental bows?

Phenetiix, trust me and Bandit, I won't stroke either of our egoe's, but we both will have forgotten alot more than Devil will ever know.

It caps at 50, at the appropriate age. The bonus for kneeling is an extra "kick" that stands alone from the enchantment.

hey dumbfuck, it's ego's not egoes

Red Devil
10-19-2003, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by StrayRogue
Why isn't Devil banned yet CT? Surely he needs more reasons to go permanently back to the Stoners Realm.

Because I, unlike Bobmuhthol and Klaive, haven't violated any rules thus far. :bouncy:

StrayRogue
10-19-2003, 11:31 AM
No, but you are still a dumb fuck who wouldn't understand a game mechanic if it raped his mother.