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Kranar
01-20-2006, 11:36 PM
The forums have switched from the XMB software to vBulletin software and as much of the information as possible has been converted.
There is still more work to be done, however, which will take some time over the weekend, and if you notice any errors or serious problems, please post about them in here.
Thank you.
Butterflies
01-21-2006, 12:03 AM
When we log in our old accounts, we can't do anything. We don't have permission. :(
Socialisto
01-21-2006, 01:41 AM
:crie: :crie: :crie:
Kranar
01-21-2006, 12:41 PM
When we log in our old accounts, we can't do anything. We don't have permission. :(
Should be fixed now.
Please go back to using your old usernames.
Kranar
01-21-2006, 12:43 PM
Also for those who made a new username, please let me know what it was so that I can delete the new one.
Kranar
01-21-2006, 12:52 PM
Right now we're without any moderators or administrators, I will be fixing this as soon as I get the chance.
Nice work on the new boards, Kranar. I tried to send you a private message but it came back saying
You have reached your stored private message quota and can not send any further messages until space has been created.
Ban Wezas
01-21-2006, 01:22 PM
Nice work on the new boards, Kranar. I tried to send you a private message but it came back saying
That's an anti-harassment feature. Max of 50 U2U's.
CrystalTears
01-21-2006, 01:31 PM
Some members didn't transfer over. We have Wezas there, and Soulpieced IMed me with the same problem. They're not listed in the memberlist. Not sure who else is having the same problem as well.
Snapp II
01-21-2006, 01:34 PM
I don't think Wezas staying off the membership was a mistake. Mine needs to be switched though! :)
TweedleDee
01-21-2006, 01:51 PM
Heh. Mine didn't cross over either, Snapp. You and Wezas ain't alone! Now, I've gotta blow poor TweedleDee's cover. :(
HarmNone, aka TweedleDee
Jonty 2
01-21-2006, 02:47 PM
Also for those who made a new username, please let me know what it was so that I can delete the new one.
I did....
And can we get rid of the 10 character minimum to post please?
Latrinsorm
01-21-2006, 02:52 PM
I am Butterflies.
Another problem:
\\"Awright, Chucknorris!\\" barks the leader. \\"Come along quietly now, and you won\\'t get hurt!\\"
I don't know if this is because of the transfer or if this board just can't handle quote marks. "This is my test."
Also on the u2u thing:
You have 1092 messages stored, of a total 50 allowed.
I'd just as soon keep all my private messages, if at all possible.
Also on the u2u thing:
You have 1092 messages stored, of a total 50 allowed.
I'd just as soon keep all my private messages, if at all possible.
You can download them in various formats. I had over 1800 I think, saved them, then deleted.
Kranar
01-21-2006, 02:59 PM
Don't worry about the PMs!
Everyone will be able to keep theirs and I'm extended from 50 to 9999. U2Us/PMs have never really been a problem in terms of storage space.
Latrinsorm
01-21-2006, 02:59 PM
Good thinking, Backlash.
Slight problem:
None of the text that was at one time in those private messages has been retained. They're all blank. :/
Mini skirm
01-21-2006, 03:20 PM
My acct is still saying that I am not authorized to do nada when i log in ergo the sending in of the mini skirm to do a full grown Skirms job. :(
Skirmisher
01-21-2006, 03:32 PM
OMG Scotty fixed the Dilithium crystals!
Ilvane
01-21-2006, 03:52 PM
Yay, I'm finally back!! Wooo.:)
-A
Good thinking, Backlash.
Slight problem:
None of the text that was at one time in those private messages has been retained. They're all blank. :/
Doh! There go all my messages. Oh well. Nothing important really. At least its a warning to others if they want to keep them. :)
Bobmuhthol
01-21-2006, 04:28 PM
Vbulletin Is Not Letting Me Make Posts That Include All Caps What The Fuck!
CrystalTears
01-21-2006, 04:31 PM
I say that's another point for vBulletin. :P
Skirmisher
01-21-2006, 04:33 PM
And they say technology isn't making our lives better...
Bobmuhthol
01-21-2006, 04:34 PM
Suggestion: If there is a way to make a person's avatar appear *after* their name instead of before it in a thread, that would be excellent.
Latrinsorm
01-21-2006, 04:37 PM
We need a new skin, badly.
There doesn't appear to be a way to link directly to the "Today's Posts" equivalent. I never bothered with it, but maybe some folks do. There also doesn't appear to be a way to make it display a set number of the most recent posts as opposed to "since I last checked the PC", and there's no way I'm trusting that.
Addendum: The link "Today's Posts" under "Quick Links" does this. I'd like it better if Today's Posts was where New Posts is. How about the rest of y'all?
Bobmuhthol
01-21-2006, 04:42 PM
I *think* http://forum.gsplayers.com/search.php?do=getdaily will work as a Today's Post link. I set it to my home page and it seems to autoupdate when there's a new post. The variable searchid thing makes no sense to me.
Latrinsorm
01-21-2006, 04:47 PM
Having an exact timestamp on posts would be far, far, far preferable to this "5 days ago" bs.
Bobmuhthol
01-21-2006, 04:48 PM
It would also be nice if there was a way to change the max posts per page to, say, a user-defined value. Or give more options.
I liked my 100 per page on the XMB board.
Bobmuhthol
01-21-2006, 04:49 PM
And I lied about that link autorefreshing. If you're opening the browser for the first time it will, otherwise you have to hit F5. But it's still the best option. I think the same thing might have even happened with the XMB, but I'm not sure.
Kranar
01-21-2006, 04:55 PM
I *think* http://forum.gsplayers.com/search.php?do=getdaily will work as a Today's Post link. I set it to my home page and it seems to autoupdate when there's a new post. The variable searchid thing makes no sense to me.
Yes, linking directly to that page will show all of today's posts.
Otherwise you can click on "Quick Links" then click on Today's Posts to get to that page.
As far as auto-refreshing, that's an internet browser issue.
Also, you can modify your user profile to view more posts per page and modify some other forum features. I will likely be expanding these feature after all else is taken care of.
Hakonne
01-21-2006, 04:58 PM
Someone know the way to change the coloration of the forums? Blue and White sucks.
Hak
It would also be nice if there was a way to change the max posts per page to, say, a user-defined value. Or give more options.
I liked my 100 per page on the XMB board.
You can now bump it up to 40 under your CP and options. Not nearly as good as the 100 I had set as well, but better than the default.
fallenSaint
01-21-2006, 05:26 PM
Someone know the way to change the coloration of the forums? Blue and White sucks.
Hak
I've been looking and simply can't find one. Tis driving me nuts as well.
Boards look good Kranar. Thanks for all the effort.
Latrinsorm
01-21-2006, 06:09 PM
In the vein of posts having a real timestamp, I also request that the "Today's Posts" function say specifically when the posts were made, not how long ago.
HarmNone
01-21-2006, 07:17 PM
Whee! I found my way home!
Thanks, Kranar. :)
Buckwheet
01-21-2006, 09:14 PM
I would like to just say that I am sure all the issues people are having with the new version of the forum software will be addressed in due time.
Several modifications are available in plugins that you can download for vbulletin and they are fairly easy to install, so many of the suggestions will probably be able to be done.
However, I want to just reiterate to people that this conversion process is not as easy as one may like to think. Several features are compatible but because of the immense amount of changes to the software will most likely require the Jelsoft techs to assist in making sure everything is fully convereted.
Regarding things like layouts, and the looks for the forum, most of them are highly customizable, however one downside the Vbulletin is that the people who write themes for the software are aware people have to pony up real hard currency to get the software.
So in turn they charge money for each theme.
Anyone can go searching for vbulletin themes they like. I know I am in no way an official spokesperson for this forum, however I seriously doubt if someone creates a thread somewhere saying anyone want to go in on this theme with me, and then provide the theme to Kranar, I am sure he would install them.
They are very very easy to install, and people can then choose them from the drop down menu.
To get you started here are my favorite pages for vbulletin themes that are reasonably priced.
http://www.vbskinworks.com/products.php?do=products&catid=1
nice, thanks for that buckwheet!
Wow, 2-3 page threads have turned into 20-30 page threads.
Buckwheet
01-22-2006, 12:05 AM
Change your default display settings in your user CP.
Augie
01-22-2006, 01:24 AM
Hey Kranar, are all of the threads supposed to have been pulled over yet? Or are we still working on that? I'm personally looking for the thread I started called "Zemki WTF" in the "Gemstone Complaints / Staff and Policy Complaints" forum.
I wanted to grab some stuff out of it that I posted because I forgot to save the thread and because I am lazy to go through my logs lol.
Anyhoos, was just curious - I'd love ta see if you have the backup of that thread. It was only from a couple days ago.
Skirmisher
01-22-2006, 01:37 AM
Hey Kranar, are all of the threads supposed to have been pulled over yet? Or are we still working on that? I'm personally looking for the thread I started called "Zemki WTF" in the "Gemstone Complaints / Staff and Policy Complaints" forum.
I wanted to grab some stuff out of it that I posted because I forgot to save the thread and because I am lazy to go through my logs lol.
Anyhoos, was just curious - I'd love ta see if you have the backup of that thread. It was only from a couple days ago.
All threads should be where they were.
I do not recall that thread offhand.
Can you tell us more what it was ab out to possibly help search for it?
Who started it? What it was in reference to, was it a long thread etc...
Snapp
01-22-2006, 02:03 AM
In everyone's profile, there's an option for "Find all threads started by this poster." And I looked there for Augie, and it does seem to be missing. Maybe a few threads are lagging behind?
Burnt out Priestess
01-22-2006, 02:20 AM
Anyone know any sites where i can get nice sized avatars for the forum? i got some but keeps saying file didnt save or to big,any help is appreciated and thanks.
as you can see,this one is kinda big.
Buckwheet
01-22-2006, 02:48 AM
One place to go and try and edit your pictures is listed below.
They have online editors.
http://www.gifworks.com/
Tisket
01-22-2006, 04:01 AM
Great job Kranar!
P.S. The blazing whiteness of this skin is shocking to the senses.
Burnt out Priestess
01-22-2006, 06:04 AM
Thank you for the link.
Miss X
01-22-2006, 10:03 AM
Augie, some threads will not have been converted over. There was an announcement on the old forums that stated all posts from that point would be lost with the conversion so it probably got lost that way.
Skirmisher
01-22-2006, 10:58 AM
There's your answer.
It's Miss X's fault. :mad:
Soulpieced
01-22-2006, 12:16 PM
I miss my Todays' Posts button. We need a link so we don't have to go to quick links to get there, because I can't set a bookmark for it. I cry.
Also, I do *not* like the new Quick Reply. We should not have to click on a specific post to be able to type stuff into the box. I never do normal replies.
Bobmuhthol
01-22-2006, 12:29 PM
Agreed on the quick reply. I supplied a Today's Posts link earlier in this thread:
http://forum.gsplayers.com/search.php?do=getdaily
Soulpieced
01-22-2006, 12:56 PM
Thanks Bob.
Buckwheet
01-22-2006, 02:34 PM
Again I am just urging caution on what people are going to complain about as far as what features they don't like or wish they had. Kranar has probably spent a large amount of time getting this converted as the forum required two conversions before it was complete. Lets just make sure the core parts are working let it iron out the problems, and then we can start submiting the lists of things people want changed.
The problem is two fold, the vbulleting coders may not have a change for that, and secondly changing all the core code in XMB was one of the main problems for causing high database loads and also causing the connection problems.
I am not trying to tell people not to post their ideas and suggestions, but I think people need to keep in mind that it has been fully functional for only a couple days now, and to be quite honest, there is probably things people are just going to have to give up with the new software, in order to ultimately make the forum run smoother and beable to grow better.
Also, I wanted to mention that everyone can read vbulletin.org. That is an online community where people make plugins for vbulletin and it is run by the company who programms the forum software. I would encourage you to page through the forums and look for the modification you would like to make.
Coming from someone who has to deal with lots of people wanting things to change, I find it much easier to make the changes if people are able to provide links and documentation to the changes they would like to make.
CrystalTears
01-22-2006, 03:14 PM
The reason I see the need to click on the button for the quick reply is because the quick reply offers the option to quote the post. So rather than to have to copy and past the quote and so forth, just quick reply on the post that prompted you to want to respond and go from there.
Like Buckwheet mentioned, things won't be exactly the same as they used to be, but there are things that we can get used to in order to not bog down the boards with plugins and customization that will just cause us to run into the same issues we did before. Let's appreciate at least the effort that was put in to help expand and grow the PC rather than focus on what you no longer have access to.
Hakonne
01-22-2006, 04:54 PM
You may note that everyone's profile shows a DOB which defaults to 29 JAN 84. You can change it and hide it via user CP options if you care to.
Bit of a rude awakening when i noted the clock had been turned back to age 21.... I was thinking "Holy Shit, I have to do all this again???"
Hak
Ebondale
01-22-2006, 05:02 PM
Bit of a rude awakening when i noted the clock had been turned back to age 21.... I was thinking "Holy Shit, I have to do all this again???"
Sounds like a sweet deal to me. :) I'd love the chance to make some different decisions.
Augie
01-22-2006, 09:26 PM
All threads should be where they were.
I do not recall that thread offhand.
Can you tell us more what it was ab out to possibly help search for it?
Who started it? What it was in reference to, was it a long thread etc...
That one was started by me in the Staff and Complaints section right at the end of the Wavedancer. It was about Zemki the merchant, titled Zemki WTF and it was basically a rant heehee.
Augie, some threads will not have been converted over. There was an announcement on the old forums that stated all posts from that point would be lost with the conversion so it probably got lost that way.
Okay that makes sense. Just was curious and all since that was one of the threads I was lookin for. It's not a huge deal, I just wanted to copy the post to send to feedback but I totally spaced and then when I went back the next day it was gone.
You can also find the today's posts link under the Quick Links pull down in the upper right side of the blue menu bar at the top part of your screen.
HarmNone
01-23-2006, 09:36 AM
The reason I see the need to click on the button for the quick reply is because the quick reply offers the option to quote the post. So rather than to have to copy and past the quote and so forth, just quick reply on the post that prompted you to want to respond and go from there.
Like Buckwheet mentioned, things won't be exactly the same as they used to be, but there are things that we can get used to in order to not bog down the boards with plugins and customization that will just cause us to run into the same issues we did before. Let's appreciate at least the effort that was put in to help expand and grow the PC rather than focus on what you no longer have access to.
But...but...but...we must bitch! It's what we do! We bitch! What'cha guys tryin to do, ruin everybody's good time? I mean, damn!
Latrinsorm
01-23-2006, 01:41 PM
It's pretty disgusting to classify requests as bitching.
CrystalTears
01-23-2006, 01:47 PM
Probably because the focus of this thread was more on problems/bugs/issues than to make requests for things to replicate the XMB boards.
Personally I found the gripes, requests for things to be as they were, getting around was a pain and these boards sucks just as disgusting. Let's be patient. It's only been on the new software for about 2 days now.
Jolena
01-23-2006, 01:50 PM
It's pretty disgusting to classify requests as bitching.
/cosigned and stuff
Latrinsorm
01-23-2006, 02:01 PM
The boards have migrated to the new software in the last few days. Let's give it some time.
Personally I found the gripes, requests for things to be as they were, getting around was a pain and these boards sucks just as disgusting.The one occurrence of suck was in reference to this color scheme (which, let's face it, is unappealing after the lush AventureMedia). Nobody has said "Kranar you suck". It's understood that Kranar is the man.
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TheRoseLady
01-23-2006, 02:57 PM
Probably because the focus of this thread was more on problems/bugs/issues than to make requests for things to replicate the XMB boards.
Personally I found the gripes, requests for things to be as they were, getting around was a pain and these boards sucks just as disgusting. Let's be patient. It's only been on the new software for about 2 days now.
You could consider this as a positive, positive in the sense that people actually care to contribute and to try to get things situated. I didn't see anything that raised a red flag or that I thought was virtiolic. What should people do? Couch their requests with a dose of groveling?
Perhaps I missed something and if so, I apologize.
Buckwheet
01-23-2006, 03:52 PM
They could take the links I have now provided them, do some research on their own, and come back and PM Kranar details to changes they want, or open a seperate thread and get other people's advice on the modification.
Instead of just saying, this isn't here, I don't like that, or I want this such and such a thing back.
Be proactive.
HarmNone
01-23-2006, 04:46 PM
It's pretty disgusting to classify requests as bitching.
Heh. Sweeetie! What did you do with your sense of humor? I think I see a suspicious bulge in your back pocket. You may be sitting on the poor thing! ;)
HarmNone, who was kidding, dammit!
Skirmisher
01-23-2006, 05:02 PM
The term bitching is not one that is laden with horrible connotations and as such I think that people need to remember that this is a work in progress with emphasis being placed upon the work aspect.
Constructive criticism is of course a good thing, but give the guy a couple of days first is all before complaining about having to click two buttons instead of one was the kind of thing that could perhaps wait a bit.
I certainly think that terming that way of thinking as disgusting is not called for even if one disagrees with it.
Jorddyn
01-23-2006, 05:07 PM
Constructive criticism is of course a good thing, but give the guy a couple of days first is all before complaining about having to click two buttons instead of one was the kind of thing that could perhaps wait a bit.
However, saying "I now have to click two buttons, before I only had to click one. Can you change that?" is a request, not a complaint.
"This totally sucks. Why do I have to click two buttons? It is all screwed up." is a complaint.
And, in case this was in reference to my post in the "Board Ideas and Suggestions" thread, I was being facetious about 2 clicks being too much work - hence the smiley. I just wanted to suggest a today's post button.
Jorddyn
Skirmisher
01-23-2006, 05:30 PM
And the campaign to "Ban Jorddyn!" begins...
Jorddyn
01-23-2006, 05:37 PM
And the campaign to "Ban Jorddyn!" begins...
:cry:
Well, since I'm going to be banned anyway. WHERE IS MY DAMN CRYING SMILEY? THIS SUCKS, I'M GOING HOME!
Jorddyn, <3 Skirm
Kranar
01-23-2006, 06:05 PM
I must say, I do agree with a lot of the complaints being made. I am just as unhappy with this quite ugly colour scheme as a lot of you are and the Quick Reply is pretty annoying. Weekdays are typically busy for me to do much fixing up, so by all means... continue to complain and even post new threads or keep the threads in here about the complaints and issues you have with the forums, and then on the weekend I can see which ones are feasible and fix them up.
Buckwheet's links are also a good resource for those who want to take a more pro-active stance on a feature they would like on the forums. I will continue spending the weekdays trying to fix some of the higher priority bugs like people unable to access the forums, but that doesn't mean the other problems and concerns will go ignored.
We'll try and get as many people comfortable with this software as possible.
Wezas
01-23-2006, 07:00 PM
<inserts various amounts of ass kissing>
You truely are the anti-Klaive.
Skirmisher
01-23-2006, 07:15 PM
<inserts various amounts of ass kissing>
You truely are the anti-Klaive.
Nocturnix...taking notes?:cool:
Now that's how you kiss ass.
nocturnix
01-25-2006, 11:21 AM
No complaints on my end, I'm just thrilled to see that Kranar has finally found the time to migrate over. Once again, best choice evar.
Yah, the default skin is pretty annoying as it is with most forum software. Always needs a LITTLE hacking to tweak things the way you want them.
go HERE: http://www.vbulletin.org for hacks.
Looks like whatever migration script you used worked damn well by the way, it even kept my signature, which I had back on the old forums despite the fact that sigs were not activated.
mgoddess
01-25-2006, 02:27 PM
quite ugly colour scheme
Haven't been around for about a week, due to moving, so this is my first time actually having time to see and feel the new forums.
Very. Awesome. (Except for the skin...)
Keep up the excellent work Kranar! :D
Latrinsorm
01-25-2006, 10:04 PM
I went poking around vbulletin.org and found this, for future reference once all the major stuff is taken care of (like getting Jesae back and Wezas' work out):
Admin CP -> vBulletin Options -> Message Posting and Editing Options -> Minimum Characters Per Post
...will solve the 10 characters minimum problem.
CrystalTears
01-26-2006, 09:09 AM
Personally I don't see that as a problem. I prefer that a post have some substance other than a smilie or one word. If you're going to post, then post something. 10 characters is not that much.
Wezas
01-26-2006, 09:53 AM
Personally I don't see that as a problem. I prefer that a post have some substance other than a smilie or one word. If you're going to post, then post something. 10 characters is not that much.
It'll just make Latrin post 10 smilies instead of 1.
Jonty
01-26-2006, 10:29 AM
Personally I don't see that as a problem. I prefer that a post have some substance other than a smilie or one word. If you're going to post, then post something. 10 characters is not that much.
I do see it as a problem for answering simple questions that don't require 10 characters.
CrystalTears
01-26-2006, 10:38 AM
Eh, I don't care either way, just stating my preference just like everyone else. With this crowd, probably better not to have the minimum as people will just do as Wezas said and post the same thing 10 times just to make a point of how much they don't like it, which I would hate more than the one word/one smilie responses.
CrystalTears
01-26-2006, 05:40 PM
I stand corrected. As a poster I don't like the 10 character minimum. I wanted to just post a yes response, even with the quote, and it didn't take. The quote doesn't count! That blows. So yeah, I'm wrong. It's a bit much. Sorry. :(
Sean of the Thread
01-26-2006, 05:51 PM
Duh duh duh duh.
Jonty
01-26-2006, 09:21 PM
I stand corrected. As a poster I don't like the 10 character minimum. I wanted to just post a yes response, even with the quote, and it didn't take. The quote doesn't count! That blows. So yeah, I'm wrong. It's a bit much. Sorry. :(
Yeah, my first post here was a quote with a 6 character answer, and I was like, "WTF?!?".
Kranar
01-28-2006, 05:00 PM
I made some fixes to aspects of the forums which I found incredibly annoying and which were mentioned in here.
Some of the more important ones include no longer having to pick a specific post to reply to when doing a Quick Reply, and like before... if you want to type in a response containing nothing more than a single uppercase letter... go ahead.
There are some other fixes too...
Are there any other skins?
If so, how do I locate the option to change?
lazypeam
Kranar
01-28-2006, 05:26 PM
No other skins as of yet.
Myself and others are hunting down for some good ones.
Latrinsorm
01-28-2006, 06:38 PM
Kranar ftw.
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