A thread for people who got fired today

[Drew2]

Oh look, I'm the only one. That's swell.

[Ebondale]

Ouch, man. Sorry to hear that. :( I wish I could get fired right now. I am literally sitting here watching paint dry.

[crazymage]

Why did you get fired?

[Sean of the Thread]

From timewarner?

[Skirmisher]

Sorry to hear that Tayre.

Was this from the start up place?

[Sean of the Thread]

SMACK DREW for not posting details in the first fukin post. Basta'd

[HarmNone]

Oh, Tayre! I'm really sorry, hon. Getting fired can't be easy, and it doesn't always require that you do something wrong, unfortunately. :(

Hopefully, you can find something new (and even better)!

[CrystalTears]

WTF! What happened? That sucks, hon. :(

[Bobmuhthol]

I got fired (up for work!) today.

lololololol @ pun.

[Fallen]

Ouch, man. Sorry to hear that. I wish I could get fired right now. I am literally sitting here watching paint dry. >>>

Haha. Military efficiency for you.

[AnticorRifling]

I'm not gonna lie, I laughed when I first read this. But yeah, that sucks bro. Give details. You need me to burn that mother to the ground? I'll march in with a lighter and a gas can demanding some respect!

[Ebondale]

Originally posted by AnticorRifling
I'm not gonna lie, I laughed when I first read this. But yeah, that sucks bro. Give details. You need me to burn that mother to the ground? I'll march in with a lighter and a gas can demanding some respect!

:respect:


Haha. Military efficiency for you.

Join the Armed Forces. See the world. Watch paint dry in exotic places such as Alaska. :lol:

[Edited on 1-15-2006 by Ebondale]

[DeV]

Originally posted by AnticorRifling
I'm not gonna lie, I laughed when I first read this. But yeah, that sucks bro. Give details. You need me to burn that mother to the ground? I'll march in with a lighter and a gas can demanding some respect! I'll bail you guys out of jail if you're short on the funds after you burn the mother.

Sorry to hear that, Tayre. Hopefully you can find an even better gig soon.

[Back]

If you suck as much at life as you do GS and these boards then I am not surprised. Incompetent, ill-mannered and a social misfit.

Here is a clue since you are so desperately in need of one. You are probably better off now. Make it work for you. Do what you’ve been wanting to do for yourself, not someone else.

And don’t collect unemployment. You’ll just gain weight from playing computer games all day.

[Moist Happenings]

It's alright, Drew. Look at the upside.

Now you can get that job at Office Depot you've always wanted.

And I can take you there!

[Fallen]

Office Depot sucks. Staples FTW.

[Moist Happenings]

Originally posted by Fallen
Office Depot sucks. Staples FTW.

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=SPLS

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=ODP

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=OMX

Suck it. Suck it dry.

[Drew2]

Anyway, now that I'm over it...

So I was late to work 2 days in a row. It was the first time I had been late, and it was due to semi-avoidable reasons, so I'm not really blaming anyone else, but it still sucks.

Apparenlty you're supposed to call in when you're going to be late. I didn't know this. I just called in the one day I took sick a few weeks ago. After I was late the first day, they never said anything about calling in or anything like that. They were just like "Oh, you're late." and I was like "yeah sorry" and they were like "k".

So the next day I go in and they're like "Oh by the way you've been late without calling and that's bad so you're fired".

I'm trying really hard not to feel sorry for myself, because it really was my own fault, but I can't help but feel small pangs of "woe is me".

[SpunGirl]

I think it's bullshit.

Answer your phone btw

-K

[HarmNone]

That sounds like a pretty harsh policy but, unfortunately, they make the rules. You could try talking to the human resources people to see if there's anything you can do; however, in most cases, it isn't worth the trouble to do so. The best thing would be to find a job you like better.

[SpunGirl]

Don't get me wrong, I'm usually a hardass about things like this. But to fire him for not calling in when he wasn't forewarned, IMO, is lame. Now maybe the calling - in policy was buried in an employee handbook somewhere, but let's get realistic. How many people really go over those with a fine-tooth comb?

If nothing else, his supervisor messed up. The first time he came in late without calling, he should have said, "Drew, you did not call in to notify us of your tardiness, which is against the rules. Don't do it again."

Doing shit like that is like half the point of supervisors.

-K

[Ebondale]

Don't know about it being in writing but its usually considered a common courtesy at the very least. Being late in the military is a very bad thing... unless you bring donuts with you when you come in.

Written in the rules or not, its still fucked up to get fired for being late twice.

...just exactly how late were you? Are we talking like 20 minutes or are we talking like three hours?

[Back]

Isn't it common knowledge to call if you are late, and if you are late more than an hour and don't call you get fired?

[HarmNone]

Normally, warning would be given if someone was doing something that could result in firing. If no warning was given, this is pretty harsh. The thing you have to think about is...do you really want to push to get your job back? You're going right back into the same place that fired you without warning. If that's their policy, and that's the way their management works, do you really want to work there?

Sometimes, it's just not worth the fight.

[SpunGirl]

That's true, HN. And Backlash, nothing is "standard," even within one company. I know other departments get half-points (our attendance is monitored here by a point system) for being late. I've been late a few times, never more than 15 minutes. I DID call first, and I did bring bagels, but I've never gotten any points as a result. That's just because my supervisor is that cool.

-K

[Wezas]

Sorry to hear about the firing, Tayre. Usually if I'm going to be more than 20 minutes late, I'll give my boss or one of my co-workers a heads up. Though at this job the hours are kind of flex so it's not an issue.

It was probably in the handbook but someone should have mentioned something to you.

Probably for the better though. This way they likely won't find out that you'd been giving away discounted cable and you can avoid any legal issues.

[Gan]

From a management perspective, every job I had as a supervisor of other employees it was expected to give a verbal the first occurrence, written the second, final written the third, and termination on the fourth. And thats in a non-union environment.

If this were not what you would call a 'disposable' level position I'd say contest it through EEOC and have it arbitrated. However, since you could probably just find another job in the same amount of time it took you to find this one, it might not be worth the headache. And yes, if you need it, file for unemployment, thats why you pay for it, and why your employer pays for it... hence the reason why its called unemployment insurance.

[Edited on 1-15-2006 by Ganalon]

[SpunGirl]

Exactly, Ganalon. Most workplaces have a "step" policy in place to warn an employee that they're walking the line. It's waived for totally horrible infractions (for example, you wouldn't get a verbal first warning for punching your co-worker in the babymaker) but in Tayre's case, it should have been used.

The only exception to that should be if he was still in a 30/90/whatever is used probation period, in which case they can fire you for whatever reason they want.

-K

[Gan]

Exactly.

Aggregious infractions on the employee part (gross neglagance or violence) resulted in immediate dismissal.

I did not think about the probationary rule, which usually would give a normal employer due process to terminate without warning. Thanks for bringing that up.

[Moist Happenings]

Oh man, speaking of step policies: never work in management for Office Depot. You're supposed to "Coach people out the door".

First offense, nothing happens,

Fourth offense, first verbal warning,

Fifth offense, start writing up something on paper for yourself to cover yourself from getting fired in the eventuality that your worthless employee ever does maybe get fired sometime down the line.

2 more offenses, keep writing your records and give verbal warnings

one offense after that, give a written warning,

more offenses, more written warnings,

last offense: final written warning

One more offense, fired.

All the while you have a worthless employee for an estimated 6-18 months that you should have been able to fire immediately.

Some policies work, some policies don't. But There should have been at LEAST one verbal warning before firing.

[SpunGirl]

Wow. I'd work for Office Depot and just call in sick every time I wanted a day off. They'd never fire me!

-K

[Moist Happenings]

Yeah technically you have to be late 7 times before you're fired. But according to policy you have to be spoken to 7 times too. and it has to be documented. three times.

[Sean]

Sorry to hear that Drew. If I had to assume why there were no written/verbal warnings I'm guessing Drew was still a trainee or in an evaluation period since he was hired. It sucks but that's just my guess.

[Doyle Hargraves]

Originally posted by Tayre
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[Stunseed]

< Oh man, speaking of step policies: never work in management for Office Depot. You're supposed to "Coach people out the door". >

ROFL. You're doing it wrong, n00b.

My manager position is this, which is explained to the employee on day ONE. It works, everytime.

"Screw my time, I'll screw you on your time twiceover, and I make the schedule."

Person A shows up an hour late for work. If they did not call, they are written up as being talked to and they lose two hours on their next schedule. If a phone call is made, and it's not lame, I'm pretty easy going.

Person A calls and shows up an hour late for work more than twice a month, my motto applies. If they can't work 9-6, I schedule them 10-5.

Person B no calls, no shows. B is written up formally, and loses two days from their scheduled hours. So if person B is full-time, their next week's schedule they are given 24 hours for their week.

This usually makes people on time. At Office Depot, I don't pay for rocket scientists, I pay for people to come to work on time to work.

[Back]

Doyle is back in bold style!

[Soulpieced]

Someone sucks at life and/or Gemstone..... well, and. Maybe if you finished off that degree, you could get a salaried job with flexible time, so you can actually get into work whenever you want (within core hours). Just a thought.

[Edited on 1-16-2006 by Soulpieced]

[Moist Happenings]

Originally posted by Stunseed
< Oh man, speaking of step policies: never work in management for Office Depot. You're supposed to "Coach people out the door". >

ROFL. You're doing it wrong, n00b.

My manager position is this, which is explained to the employee on day ONE. It works, everytime.

"Screw my time, I'll screw you on your time twiceover, and I make the schedule."

Person A shows up an hour late for work. If they did not call, they are written up as being talked to and they lose two hours on their next schedule. If a phone call is made, and it's not lame, I'm pretty easy going.

Person A calls and shows up an hour late for work more than twice a month, my motto applies. If they can't work 9-6, I schedule them 10-5.

Person B no calls, no shows. B is written up formally, and loses two days from their scheduled hours. So if person B is full-time, their next week's schedule they are given 24 hours for their week.

This usually makes people on time. At Office Depot, I don't pay for rocket scientists, I pay for people to come to work on time to work.

Oh believe me. The time is my domain. And so is the schedule of who gets to clean shit out of the toilet every night. :)

[Stunseed]

Then worry not of attendance, utilize the schedule to make their life difficult until they conform to your communist desires.

MUAHAHAHAHAHA!

[Drew2]

Someone remind me to tell Soulpieced to man the fuck up next time he's bitching about his poor wittle knee rather than keeping my mouth shut like I have been.

And someone else remind me to tell Backlash how much of a ugly saggy fuck he looks next time he posts a picture of his chunky ass and keeps it as his avatar for two months so everyone's eyes have another reason to burn when they're reading the retarded bleeding heart bullshit.


No one is perfect. Shut the fuck up.

[Edited on 1-16-2006 by Tayre]

[Doyle Hargraves]

I'm perfect.

[Necromancer]

Wait...how do you not know that you're required to call in to tell work that you're running late? Isn't that standard employment knowledge?

[Wezas]

Did you burn your bridges at Best Buy? Or you think they'd take you back?

[CrystalTears]

How late were you anyway? Cause around here if you're late 10-15 late because of traffic or something along the way, it's okay. Anything more you need to call.

I can't imagine anyone here getting fired for being late twice in a row, especially at least being told after the first time that you have to call regardless.

[Sean of the Thread]

From my experience of being a manager a few minutes late here and there is no big deal to ME especially if it is good help. To them I make it out to be a big deal and of course it takes them down a few notches on the good worker list and are first to get pwned when the time comes.

I've fired assholes/slackers/lazy asses and people with attitudes that come in even 5 minutes late before. My gu ess is someone didn't like you. Good phone help is hard to come by.

Your next option is to go behind closed doors for a one on one meeting under the guise of asking where you could improve on your next job then claim they touched your PP in the meeting and settle out of court.

It works trust me.

[Iooy]

Just thinking about this during this thread. The company I work for has a policy which works out as follows. If in probation period you can have up to 3 occurances for being late or calling in. Once the probation period is over the number of occurances goes up to 8. If you got an occurance today, it wouldn't come off the books til this date next year. (Rolling calander)

The breakdown is as follows:
1-15 minutes is .25 occurances
16 min - 2 hours is .5 occurances
More than 2 hours is 1 occurance
This also includes if they called in sick. They get 1 occurance for the first day and the following is considered a freebie. (They have to call you both days and talk to a person in management however.)
No call - No show is 2 occurances.

This being said, during the probation period if its within the first 2 months we set the standard lower then the 3 points. Basicly its looked at as a point a month, if you go over that, then you are terminated.

With all this being said. I have only had to terminate a handful of employees due to attendance. However, they all get warnings both verbal and written along the way so they know exactly where they stand within the policy.

[Alfster]

I'm currently on my third written warning for call ins. And second for no call no show.

Apparently those 12 times I called in during August wasnt' the best idea.

[Sean of the Thread]

Originally posted by Tayre
Someone remind me to tell Soulpieced to man the fuck up next time he's bitching about his poor wittle knee rather than keeping my mouth shut like I have been.

And someone else remind me to tell Backlash how much of a ugly saggy fuck he looks next time he posts a picture of his chunky ass and keeps it as his avatar for two months so everyone's eyes have another reason to burn when they're reading the retarded bleeding heart bullshit.


No one is perfect. Shut the fuck up.

[Edited on 1-16-2006 by Tayre]

I'm a chunky love bucket too :(

[Ylena]

Tayre, even if I were you, and even if I didn't want the job back, I would be making some phone calls to corporate HR. If there was no written documentation, you shouldn't have been fired. Period. You weren't working for a mom and pop business. You could have their HR department shitting kittens, and the person that fired you would be in some deep crap. That opens them up to all sorts of legal action. Call a lawyer.

[HarmNone]

Ylena is right, in my opinion. Even if you don't want your job back, corporate HR should be aware that their management staff is riding roughshod over the employees. They may care. They may not. Either way, they should know.

[Jorddyn]

Originally posted by Iooy
If in probation period you can have up to 3 occurances for being late or calling in. Once the probation period is over the number of occurances goes up to 8. If you got an occurance today, it wouldn't come off the books til this date next year. (Rolling calander)

More than 2 hours is 1 occurance
No call - No show is 2 occurances.


Holy crap. You can be more than 2 hours late 8 times in a year and not get fired? Or no-call/no-show 4 times?

Here, one no-call/no-show puts you one occurrence of anything shy of being fired. If you've had an occurrence for anything else (even being 5 minutes late), you're gone. Everything rolls off at the end of the next calendar year (so something I did today would show until December 2007).

No occurrences allowed during the probationary period. 5 minutes late, and you're fired.

Jorddyn, must work for a mean company :)

[Sean of the Thread]

No call/no show as instant fire. Don't come back to the property until Friday after 5 for your check.. see ya later g'bye.