Troubadour's Rally (1040 ) is Released

[Shalla]

GM Mestys has given Bards a winter gift! Troubadour's Rally (1040) has been released!

Troubadour's Rally 1040

DURATION: Immediate

TYPE: Defense/Utility

Through this spell a bard may, with a sufficiently powerful cry, rally his comrades. A strong shout can waken the sleeping, bestir the calmed, break a stun, return lost mobility and even bring the recumbent to their feet.

A debilitated bard can attempt to rally himself with this shout, however, because of his impaired condition; this will be more difficult than rallying others. The same cast of SHOUT that frees the Bard also has the possibility of freeing his group, but the group cannot be freed by a SHOUT unless the Bard is free of sleep, calm, or immobility.

Troubadour's Rally is invoked via SHOUT 1040. The spell will attempt to remove the following conditions from every group member of the Bard caster: calm, sleep, stun, immobility, and prone/sitting.

Calm and sleep conditions on group members are removed with guaranteed success. Stun and immobility effects are removed at a base rate of 90%, -3% per second remaining in the effect's duration, +3% based on Mental Lore: Telepathy ranks on a summation scale, seed 1. The minimum rate is 10%.

Prone and sitting conditions will be cleared as if the afflicted group member had entered the STAND command, but with no roundtime, and an additional bonus equal to the Mental Lore: Telepathy modifier calculated in the stun and immobility removal rates.

Though the Bard cannot assist his allies while he is stunned or immobile, he can attempt to rally himself, albeit at a more difficult base rate. Doing so will allow the rallying shout to affect the rest of his group.

Stun and immobility effects for the Bard are removed at a base rate of 50%, -2% per second remaining in the effect's duration, +1% per Mental Mana Control rank. The minimum rate is 10%.

Prone and sitting conditions for the Bard will be cleared if he had entered the STAND command, but with no roundtime, and an additional bonus equal to the Mental Mana Control modifier calculated in the stun and immobility removal rates.

Each of the negative states will have the chance to be removed from all affected by the spell, with a flat cost of 40 mana to the Bard.

This message was originally posted in Bards, Bard Magic, Spells and Spellsongs. To discuss the above follow the link below.

http://www.play.net/forums/messages.asp?forum=102&category=24&topic=4&message =1098

[The Ponzzz]

I can't believe they released that spell...

[Revon1]

Any logs? I just removed some spell ranks from Revon so he doesnt have 1040 yet. Before I even attempt to get it I want to see how it works and if its worth it.

[Trinitis]

so for 40 mana..you can have the same effect as poke (0 mana), unstun (8? mana), or pull (0 mana) on other party members.

Or, you can do all the same to yourself...


Yay...?

[Fission]

I'm glad bards got the winter gift and not wizards.

[Nakiro]

This spell is so horrible.

I am sorry guys. Looks like Empathic Dispell is now the second worst 40th level spell slot.

[Stunseed]

< I am sorry guys. Looks like Empathic Dispell is now the second worst 40th level spell slot. >

I'd take 1140 over 650 any day of the week, and twice on Sunday. Also, 1040 does suck. Alot.

[Makkah]

Oh well. At least there's the 10% minimum

[Yessum]

It obviously doesn't seem to work on high endrolls, but seems to be able to stand even with high endrolls. On a low endroll (IE, 138), I seemed to break the stun pretty easily. Pretty much, it blows, at 40 mana a pop.

XX gestures at you.
CS: +XXX - TD: +XXX + CvA: -7 + d100: +84 - -5 == +208
Warding failed!
An unseen force envelopes you, restricting all movement.

>shout 1040
You attempt to call out with a rallying cry, but are unable to properly focus your thoughts.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

>stance offensive
You don't seem to be able to move to do that.
>shout 1040
You attempt to call out with a rallying cry, but are unable to properly focus your thoughts.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>gaze
You don't seem to be able to move to do that.

>shout 1040
You attempt to call out with a rallying cry, but are unable to properly focus your thoughts.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>shout 1040
Wait 2 sec.
>shout 1040
Wait 1 sec.
>shout 1040
Wait 1 sec.
>shout 1040
You attempt to call out with a rallying cry, but are unable to properly focus your thoughts.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

>shout 1040
You attempt to call out with a rallying cry, but are unable to properly focus your thoughts.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>
The restricting force that envelops you dissolves away.
>
XXXX gestures at you.
CS: +XXX - TD: +XXX + CvA: -7 + d100: +78 - -5 == +201
Warding failed!
XXXX's face shimmers and vanishes, and, in its place, you see the image of a massive emerald green serpent. The snake's golden eyes transfix you with their power as its forked tongue darts out to taste the air. Darkness wells forth to consume the image, and then you see nothing at all.
You are dazed! Overwhelmed by a greater spiritual power, you fall to your knees in divine reverence!

>shout 1040
You attempt to call out with a rallying cry, but are unable to properly focus your thoughts.
A sense of invigoration courses through your legs as you rise smoothly to your feet!
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

You are unable to regain focus and clarity.
>shout 1040
You attempt to call out with a rallying cry, but are unable to properly focus your thoughts.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

You are unable to regain focus and clarity.
>
XXXX gestures at you.
You regain clarity and focus.
You are no longer stunned.
>

XXXX gestures at you.
CS: +XXX - TD: +XX + CvA: -7 + d100: +17 - -5 == +138
Warding failed!
XXXX's face shimmers and vanishes, and, in its place, you see the image of a massive emerald green serpent. The snake's golden eyes transfix you with their power as its forked tongue darts out to taste the air. Darkness wells forth to consume the image, and then you see nothing at all.
You are dazed!

>shout 1040
Translucent streams of mana cascade across your sight as you let loose with a rallying cry!
You break free from your senseless daze!
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>


Yessum

[Soulpieced]

Jurporia traces a sign that contorts in the air while he forcefully incants a dark invocation...
>
Jurporia gestures at you.
CS: +455 - TD: +392 + CvA: -7 + d100: +75 == +131
Warding failed!
You feel a numbing jolt reverberate through your skull! You are stunned.
>shout 1040
You attempt to call out with a rallying cry, but are unable to properly focus your thoughts.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>shout 1040
You attempt to call out with a rallying cry, but are unable to properly focus your thoughts.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>shout 1040
You attempt to call out with a rallying cry, but are unable to properly focus your thoughts.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>
Jurporia says, "Ahh...new song."
>shout 1040
You attempt to call out with a rallying cry, but are unable to properly focus your thoughts.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>'Absolutely freaking worthless
You are still stunned.
>
Jurporia says, "Wheeze if you want out."
>wheeze
You manage to make a faint wheezing sound.
>
You are able to move again.

[Soulpieced]

Probably the worst spell in existence. Granted I have no mana control (why the fuck does a level 40 spell need 2 DIFFERENT skills for effects to work?!), but I'm never using it again.

[Drew]

You're gonna need a flame proof suit to be on the bard official folder for a while.

[Edited on 12-24-2005 by Drew]

[Artha]

Does it still cost mana if you fail?

[Revon1]

OMFG that shit sucks. I expected to see a log from soulpieced PWNing the shit out of that spell and he cant use it any better than anyone else. Im not even going waste my TP's to get it.

[Satira]

Big thumbs down thus far on this one.

[Yessum]

Yes, it costs FORTY MANA each time you shout 1040. Fucking worthless.

Yessum

[Danical]

this spell . . . has forced me to drink heavily.

[Ilvane]

Can you post it trying to get the people in your group unstunned, etc?

They did say it would be harder to get yourself out of it.

-A

[Numbers]

Good god...

I'm glad I'm not a bard. The GM's should be ashamed that they released this spell in a level 40 spell slot, even if it is for a semi class. It's crap.

I expect the outcry on the official bard boards is huge, though. Chances are it will eventually get tweaked.

[Shalla]

I just cancelled my bard account. :down:

[Sidrik]

Originally posted by Ilvane
Can you post it trying to get the people in your group unstunned, etc?



J>prep 1011
You change your tune slightly, adding the element for Song of Peace to your song...
Your spellsong is ready.
J>sing
You weave another verse into your harmony.
The surroundings respond to the soothing melody of your song, becoming calm and still.
Sing Roundtime 3 Seconds.

[Unique]

I'll repeat what I said in the official forums:

The main use of this spell will be to make everyone stand after some Paladin makes them kneel ;-)


Unique.

[Apotheosis]

hahahahhaahhaha this spell sucks.. lol bards = pwn3d

[Drinin]

It's a fucking worthless spell. Why we were given a GROUP spell for our level 40 spell is beyond me.

[Yessum]

Here's the group effect. Had a few friends help, one to stun the other, and then stun himself. Both were in my group. Basically, the stand effect is pretty easy, but the unstun (and I imagine the bind breaking) only works on really low rolls.

XXXX gestures at YYYY.
CS: +XXX - TD: +XXX + CvA: +12 + d100: +74 - -5 == +257
Warding failed!
As XXXX stares intensely at YYYY, a pale green film covers YYYY's eyes.
YYYY appears dazed.
>
XXXX chants a reverent litany and clasps his hands while tightly focusing his thoughts...
>
XXXX gestures.
CS: +XXX - TD: +XXX + CvA: +2 + d100: +33 - -5 == +128
Warding failed!
As XXXX stares intensely at XXXX, a pale green film covers XXXX's eyes.
XXXX appears dazed.

>shout 1040
Translucent streams of mana cascade across your sight as you let loose with a rallying cry!
YYYY's muscles twitch slightly in response to the sound, but he remains stunned.
manages to break free from his senseless daze!
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
(NB: This isn't a mistake on my part: he broke his stun, but it didn't display his name)

YYYY fumbles about aimlessly!

XXXX chants a reverent litany and clasps his hands while tightly focusing his thoughts...
>
XXXX gestures at YYYY.
CS: +XXX - TD: +XXX + CvA: +12 + d100: +39 - -5 == +261
Warding failed!
As XXXX stares intensely at YYYY, a pale green film covers YYYY's eyes.
YYYY appears dazed! YYYY appears distraught and falls to his kneels in divine reverence!
>
XXXXX chants a reverent litany and clasps his hands while tightly focusing his thoughts...
>
XXXX gestures.
CS: +XXX - TD: +XXX + CvA: +2 + d100: +22 - -5 == +170
Warding failed!
As XXXX stares intensely at XXXX, a pale green film covers XXXX's eyes.
XXXX appears dazed>

You feel fully energetic again.
>
YYYY fumbles about aimlessly!
>
XXXX fumbles about aimlessly!

>shout 1040
Translucent streams of mana cascade across your sight as you let loose with a rallying cry!
YYYY's muscles twitch slightly in response to the sound, but he remains stunned.
YYYY somehow rises smoothly to his feet!
XXXX's muscles twitch slightly in response to the sound, but he remains stunned.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

>shout 1040
Translucent streams of mana cascade across your sight as you let loose with a rallying cry!
YYYY's muscles twitch slightly in response to the sound, but he remains stunned.
XXXX's muscles twitch slightly in response to the sound, but he remains stunned.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>
YYYY fumbles about aimlessly!

XXXX fumbles about aimlessly!

>shout 1040
Translucent streams of mana cascade across your sight as you let loose with a rallying cry!
YYYY's muscles twitch slightly in response to the sound, but he remains stunned.
manages to break free from his senseless daze!
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

>shout 1040
Translucent streams of mana cascade across your sight as you let loose with a rallying cry!
YYYY's muscles twitch slightly in response to the sound, but he remains stunned.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

>shout 1040
Wait 2 sec.
>shout 1040
Translucent streams of mana cascade across your sight as you let loose with a rallying cry!
YYYY's muscles twitch slightly in response to the sound, but he remains stunned.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

>shout 1040
Wait 1 sec.
>shout 1040
Translucent streams of mana cascade across your sight as you let loose with a rallying cry!
YYYY's muscles twitch slightly in response to the sound, but he remains stunned.
You have overextended yourself!
You feel yourself going into shock!
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>


Yessum

[Danical]

motherfucking lol.

[Revon1]

Someone needs to give the GM that created this spell a steaming pile of shit fresh from the ass for christmas. I would actually prefer the other idea for the bard 40th spell slot:

http://www.forum.gsplayers.com/viewthread.php?tid=18539

[Edited on 12-25-2005 by Revon1]

[Renian]

Looks like bards got coal in their stockings, eh?

Simu needs to realize something: Game Balance != fun all the time. Make a ridiculously good spell for 40th level. It may be a wee bit broken, but damn, your customers will be incredibly happy.

[Danical]

The original spell design would have saved me mana as a capped 1030 hunter.

Ted and Marty should be put on timeout.

[TheEschaton]

Heh, that crappy ass proposition offered in that other thread doesn't look so crappy now, eh?


My bard is only 36 trains, so he's got awhile before he has to worry about this shit, since he has to go up the 400s as well.


-TheE-

[Latrinsorm]

They should at least let you renew it for like 5 mana. 40 a pop is absurd.

[Makkah]

The original 1040 idea was just as fucking dumb (if not dumber)

[Ilvane]

There has to be some creative juices out there for the bards..I mean god..this spell royally stinks from the looks of it.

-A

[Shalla]

I laughed when I read this.

https://www.play.net/forums/messages.asp?forum=102&category=24&topic=2&message =1597


Triad take it away!


Alright,

If we have not gotten any good Ideas to add/fix/change 1040, so that a capped bard does not have to burn a fixskills to become .33x or higher in MMC in order to use it at all. (that is not me, btw)

Can we please, please, please have the Council of Magic Triad of bad people who want to keep 740 and 940 for themselves, Come and steal 1040 from all the minds of the bards???

I would honestly rather have an RP spell only than this writeup of 1040...

1040
Bardic Soap Bubble
Upon singing of this spell, the bard creates bubbles of sonic power that will capture bolt spells cast at the bard, he can then store these bubbles in the air and throw them at his friends an enemies, drenching them with a thick, colored spray! Such spray has been known to make the most powerful Sorkie in the lands, walk home crying to his mommy!
Cost 40
Renew 30
Lores: The more Mental:Manipulation a bard has the longer the victim cries about their ruined garments and trinkets.

[Soulpieced]

It's too powerful and would ruin game balance. Move along.

[Makkah]

Someone just called it "Troubashit" on the official boards. That made me laugh.

[Drinin]

Originally posted by Makkah
Someone just called it "Troubashit" on the official boards. That made me laugh.

Fucking hilarious. I missed it, I'm guessing it was the post that was pulled.

[Latrinsorm]

They quadroupled the minimum self-success rate. It's way better, but still pretty weak for a 40 spell.

[Amaron]

They upped the percentage but not enough in my opinion. This is a 40th spell.. its under powered. Compared to the paladin 35th spell....

If I am stunned I first have to break that... 40 mana IF i hit it the first time... I haven't ever yet... then 40 more for the group who still has a much better chance to break than me.

There is no real incentive to use this for a group.

I like how the updates to 1025 ( which are good except the the injury checks) came out together.

Kinda like here is somehting good and oh yea we did this to 1040 be happy.

J

[Drinin]

I'm still not letting this go, heh. 1040 needs an overhaul.

[Danical]

The spell still sucks. I've stated many times on the officials why and where they went wrong.

It really seems like SIMU is just too self-righteous (read as: just like latrinsorm) to even consider scrapping it or making it worthwhile.

:shrug:

The only thing we can do is continually voice our concerns. And really, anyone that thinks it's a good song, we should spit in their face and tell them why it sucks, again.

[Makkah]

1040 is good to me now, but I'm adequately trained so I only need it occasionally.

Maybe it's because noone likes you, Vulvamancer? Or could be because you scripted to 95 before you even tried to learn how to play a bard.

Just my take.

[Danical]

If by "before you even tried to learn how to play a bard" you mean, wrote a formal apa style paper/post and defined exactly how 1030 works (all common knowledge at that point was utterly wrong and not even close), defined how 1008 works, and began pioneering pure bards, then you sir, are correct.

And at no point did I exclusively script aside from some levels out of boredom. I generally always hunting in between.

Just as usual, your take is wrong, riddled with assumptions and void of logical analysis.

Have a nice day.

[Edited on 1-4-2006 by vulvamancer]

[Danical]

Oh, and also figured out exactly how 1013 despite Krakii's continual assertion that it was incorrect.

GM confirmation on that one too.

Anything else?

[Axhinde]

Did you find time for a life?

To stay on topic: I just don't get how you(the general population of Simu whiners) can get what you want(a new spell) and continue crying. I agree that as it was, it was useless. But it seems useful to me now...no lower than a 40% chance to work. I don't see the problem. Vulvamancer, you sacrificed a lot of things to have the killing power your bard has. Now you want to break stuns like you were Chuck Norris. There is a point when people start asking too much.

[Makkah]

<< http://www.play.net/forums/messages.asp?forum=102&category=24&topic=4&message =680 >>

<< http://www.play.net/forums/messages.asp?forum=102&category=24&topic=4&message =697 >>

<< http://www.play.net/forums/messages.asp?forum=102&category=24&topic=4&message =706 >>

And that's just the first three I felt like researching.

[Danical]

So the first one - I was given wrong information on an assist. Got it clarified.

The second one . . . what exactly is your point? I created a script to auto renew while I dragged problem solved. Additionally, I tried to create better implementation for 1011 through the use of recasting instead of having to renew.

The third is my attempt to have hastelike reductions just as the haste spell for long RTs.

In the last two posts - you neither pointed out my lack of knowledge but reinforced it by demonstrating my understanding in the lack of design or differentiation between two systems. Except, of course, the first one when I was given faulty information.

Keep on searching.

And, what have you contributed to the bard community? Besides being a leech with the emotional stability of an infant?

[Makkah]

You're blatantly trying to shrug off your idiocies. I made my points. You were a moron then; you're still a moron.

[Danical]

Oh, and I forgot to mention that my implementation change in regards to the first post still stands.

There should be messaging to indication a gem has capped (not orbed) before having to waste 4 mana.

I guess you don't like efficiency?

:shrug:

[Axhinde]

I believe what he was pointing out in the second one was you being confused as to why your song of peace was dropping, when it wasn't. I'm sure you know by now that Ithzir seers or initiates (cant remember which) sanct, so that is what was dropping.

[Danical]

Originally posted by Makkah
You're blatantly trying to shrug off your idiocies. I made my points. You were a moron then; you're still a moron.

I provided concrete evidence that I'm not a moron. All you can do is accuse childishly without any evidence.

But then, I suppose that's a product of your psychological disposition.

[Makkah]

No. I was pointing out you were near cap and had no fucking clue how your songs work. Sanct falls very frequent in many hunting areas.

[Danical]

Originally posted by Axhinde
I believe what he was pointing out in the second one was you being confused as to why your song of peace was dropping, when it wasn't. I'm sure you know by now that Ithzir seers or initiates (cant remember which) sanct, so that is what was dropping.

You missed the point. It dropped, yes, but I couldn't incant 1011 to recast it. If it had truly dropped then it wouldn't be in my spellcycle still preventing incant 1011 and necessitating a RENEW as it was still in the cycle but not present in the eviornment.

See the logical inconsistency?

[Danical]

Originally posted by Makkah
No. I was pointing out you were near cap and had no fucking clue how your songs work. Sanct falls very frequent in many hunting areas.

Incorrect.

As a product of the rift enviornment it does occationally.

In OTF it fails less than 5% of the time. Hardly "very frequent."

[Makkah]

Just had it drop 3 times in 10 minutes. Sorry, chief :(

[Danical]

Sure you did.

I've dragged people from northern duct as a gnome taking over 20 minutes and never had it drop.

I have logs to back up my claims.

What's even better is that I've been checking your game status and you haven't even been logged in. In the last 10 mintues.

But really, I think this discussion is done - go ahead and insult as you please.

[Makkah]

<<What's even better is that I've been checking your game status and you haven't even been logged in. In the last 10 mintues. >>

You apparently have NO clue who I play then. I was logged on quite a bit as the PsiNet people can attest. I only just now logged off because of pregame festivities. Enjoy the game, btw. Assuming you do other things other than play GS :(

[Makkah]

Well after forgetting completely about this thread, I just 1011'd in OTF to fuck around... then decided to provide you a log, champ. 5 times in 10 minutes. (read as: You lose, you fucking idiot.) To set it up, that first 1011 fell in less time than it took me to type "time" and hit Enter.

You change your tune slightly, adding the element for Song of Peace to your song...
Your spellsong is ready.
You weave another verse into your harmony.
[Spell Hindrance for a suit of augmented ora chainmail is 8% with current Armor Use skill, d100= 7]
Your armor prevents the song from working correctly.
K>1011
*** TypoHelp: Converted "1011" to INCANT 1011.

You change your tune slightly, adding the element for Song of Peace to your song...
Your spellsong is ready.
You weave another verse into your harmony.
The surroundings respond to the soothing melody of your song, becoming calm and still.
Sing Roundtime 3 Seconds.
K>
The sense of peace and security passes away from the area.
K>time
Today is Leyan, day 11 of the month Lormesta in the year 5106. It is 21:53 by the elven time standard. It is currently late evening.
K>renew 1011
You sing with renewed vigor!
The surroundings respond to the soothing melody of your song, becoming calm and still.
Renewing "Song of Peace" for 4 mana.
Sing Roundtime 3 Seconds.
K>
An animated jeddart-axe glides in.
K>
Your singular focus on combat slowly drifts away.
K>
Your song continues to maintain the peace and security of the area.
The mirror images surrounding you undulate and grow stronger.
Your songs renew.
K>
You feel fully energetic again.
K>
* Diablic just bit the dust!
K>
The sense of peace and security passes away from the area.
K>time
Today is Leyan, day 11 of the month Lormesta in the year 5106. It is 21:54 by the elven time standard. It is currently late evening.
K>renew 1011
You sing with renewed vigor!
The surroundings respond to the soothing melody of your song, becoming calm and still.
Renewing "Song of Peace" for 4 mana.
Sing Roundtime 3 Seconds.
K>
The animated jeddart-axe slowly bobs up and down.
K>
* Amberleia just bit the dust!
K>
The sense of peace and security passes away from the area.
K>time
Today is Leyan, day 11 of the month Lormesta in the year 5106. It is 21:56 by the elven time standard. It is currently late evening.
K>renew 1011
You sing with renewed vigor!
The surroundings respond to the soothing melody of your song, becoming calm and still.
Renewing "Song of Peace" for 4 mana.
Sing Roundtime 3 Seconds.
K>
* Vinsant just bit the dust!
K>
The animated jeddart-axe slowly bobs up and down.
K>
You feel at full magical power again.
K>
The sense of peace and security passes away from the area.
K>tim
Today is Leyan, day 11 of the month Lormesta in the year 5106. It is 22:00 by the elven time standard. It is currently late evening.
K>renew 1011
You sing with renewed vigor!
The surroundings respond to the soothing melody of your song, becoming calm and still.
Renewing "Song of Peace" for 4 mana.
Sing Roundtime 3 Seconds.
K>
A faint silvery glow fades from around you.
K>
* Mekthros joins the adventure.
K>
You feel at full magical power again.
K>
* Genysis just bit the dust!
K>
Your song continues to maintain the peace and security of the area.
The mirror images surrounding you undulate and grow stronger.
Your songs renew.
K>
The sense of peace and security passes away from the area.
K>time
Today is Leyan, day 11 of the month Lormesta in the year 5106. It is 22:02 by the elven time standard. It is currently late evening.

[Makkah]

Actually... 10 minutes is giving you the benefit of the doubt. 5 times in 9.5 minutes is likely more accurate. Now, assuming you meant a 5% chance of dropping EVERY second, then you're probably about right... but we all know you just pulled THAT one out of your ass.

[Danical]

EDIT: With advent of the AdvG, I've used 1011 much much more with tasks involving searching for heirlooms/foraging.

Thought I'd dig this post back up.

I was/am clearly wrong about the 1011 time. While it does exhibit variability it almost never lasts more than 7 minutes.

I acted like a jackass.

I'm sorry Rhett. You were right.

[Makkah]

Wow. Surprised you still remember that. Yea, I was thinking about it last week or so when my 1011 got dropped like 5 times within 10 minutes.

But yea, no worries.