Harry Potter Discussion

[The Ponzzz]

I didn't enjoy Goblet of Fire...

[Czeska]

What part of GoF made you cry?

Also, i'll be seeing Kong.

[Fallen]

What part of GoF made you cry? >>

When Amos, Cedrick Diggory's father flipped out when he saw the corpes of his son, screaming "That's my boy."

I am very attached to my father, so the scene struck home.

[CrystalTears]

When Amos, Cedrick Diggory's father flipped out when he saw the corpes of his son, screaming "That's my boy."

Yeah that made me teary-eyed too.

I'm looking forward to seeing King Kong. Maybe this weekend.

[StrayRogue]

Goblet of Fire was the worst Harry Potter to date (which is pretty considering none of the movies have been amazingly good). Kong was good, though I did find myself rather wishfully wanting to watch the original. Stopmotion ftw.

[CrystalTears]

Amazing how tastes differ since myself and a few friends felt it was the best HP movie so far. Go figure. :shrug:

[StrayRogue]

Hype, my dear.

Without the support of the fans from the books I doubt they'd be this far into the series.

I especially hated it because everyone said it was so dark and scary and evil. Voldermort was pathetic. Skeletor from Masters of the Universe looked scarier and hammed it up more. The teenage angst was eye-rolling and as always the plot was completely predictable: OMG wait it's not the dark arts teacher up to no good again is it????!!!??!?!?!?! Haven't they used this ruse in every other film to date?

[Edited on 15-12-05 by StrayRogue]

[Fallen]

Amazing how tastes differ since myself and a few friends felt it was the best HP movie so far. Go figure. >>

Agreed. The loss of Richard Harris was certainly a blow to the films, though I enjoyed this movie far more than the other three. The films are finally starting to show the darker aspects of the series. Can't wait to see the fifth offering, and The Only One He Ever Feared.

[Drew2]

Originally posted by StrayRogue
Hype, my dear.

Without the support of the fans from the books I doubt they'd be this far into the series.

I especially hated it because everyone said it was so dark and scary and evil. Voldermort was pathetic. Skeletor from Masters of the Universe looked scarier and hammed it up more. The teenage angst was eye-rolling and as always the plot was completely predictable: OMG wait it's not the dark arts teacher up to no good again is it????!!!??!?!?!?! Haven't they used this ruse in every other film to date?

[Edited on 15-12-05 by StrayRogue]

I guess you never read the books, because they state in every book "No Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher ever makes it more than one year". Of course it's predictable.

That's like saying "Stay will hate anything mainstream or popular". Duh.

[Czeska]

LOL @ Tayre.


I loved GoF. Wait.. what's this thread about again?

[StrayRogue]

Retelling the same story with the same badguy over and over and over isn't very good, original or EPIC in my view, sorry.

I can understand them never lasting a year, but in each and every story so far they've been directly linked to Voldermort in regards to them being the bad protagonist. I could see it the first...three times. But come on.

I feel sorry for JK, to be honest. I know she hates the hole she's dug herself, regardless of the money. It must suck being considered a one trick horse.

[Fallen]

Stray, you do realize these movies are based on a series of Children's books, right? They might be well written children's books, but in the end, they ARE simplistically written.

[StrayRogue]

I would not consider them well written. And from what I've read, neither does most of the literary community.

Being children's books does not mean that it's okay to recycle the same plot again and again and again, either.

[Fallen]

I would not consider them well written. And from what I've read, neither does most of the literary community.

Being children's books does not mean that it's okay to recycle the same plot again and again and again, either. >>

Alright, fair enough. If you don't even like the books, you wont like the movies.

[Drew2]

Recycle the same plot? You act like Voldemort dies at the end of every book.

It's the same plot stretched across 7 books. Not 7 repeated plots.

[Edited on 12-15-2005 by Tayre]

[StrayRogue]

Nice ASSumption there.

[Fallen]

Nice ASSumption there. >>

What, mine? No need for personal insults. If you hate the way the series is written, and the fact that the plots and characters are shallow, one would imagine the dumbed down effect that movies have on books would increase your dissatisfaction with the series.

It is an assumption, though I wouldn't call it baseless.

[CrystalTears]

Originally posted by StrayRogue
Nice ASSumption there.

I agree "I would not consider them well written. And from what I've read, neither does most of the literary community." Big assumption.

[StrayRogue]

Originally posted by Tayre
Recycle the same plot? You act like Voldemort dies at the end of every book.

It's the same plot stretched across 7 books. Not 7 repeated plots.

[Edited on 12-15-2005 by Tayre]

I would consider the same happening in each book/film the same:

Lets condense it:

Something weird happens in the beginning fortelling an omen.

Harry goes to school.

Angst.

The new dark arts teacher is introduced.

Angst.

Harry is somehow implicated in those weird omen things at the beginning.

Angst and a little Snape.

Harry must undergo a tremendous task that someone of his age or knowledge could never do and he'll never be able to survive it or do it or be any success.

Angst.

He does it.

Dark Arts teacher revealed to be thrall of Voldermort. He/they are beaten.

Harry goes home.

[StrayRogue]

Originally posted by CrystalTears

Originally posted by StrayRogue
Nice ASSumption there.

I agree "I would not consider them well written. And from what I've read, neither does most of the literary community." Big assumption.

Yeah, because repeating what you've read in the news is an assumption :rolleyes:

[StrayRogue]

Originally posted by Fallen
Nice ASSumption there. >

It is an assumption

The rest of your post was pointless, except for this.

[StrayRogue]

Saying what you did Was pointless. You made an assumption, one based on little evidence or knowledge in regards to my film watching and book reading habits and preferences. I don't hate a film because I disliked the book, nor the other way round.

[CrystalTears]

How can you enjoy a movie when you clearly didn't like the plot of the book it came from?

Can you site an example that you didn't like anything about the book but liked the movie?

[Fallen]

Saying what you did Was pointless. You made an assumption, one based on little evidence or knowledge in regards to my film watching and book reading habits and preferences. I don't hate a film because I disliked the book, nor the other way round. >>

You think that saying someone wont like the movie because they did not like the books is a bad assumption to make?

"Hey, you should go see (movie). You disliked the book series because you thought it was too formuliac, and you have read sources which you hold as credible that didn't think it was that hot either. But yeah, you should go see the movie anyway, expecting to like it".

Shrug

[StrayRogue]

Yes:

Dune.
Shawshank Redemption.
The Thing.



[Edited on 15-12-05 by StrayRogue]

[Fallen]

Wow. That movie did bomb, yet the book was a terrific success. I would then make the ASSumption that your preferences are certainly not the standard.

[StrayRogue]

All three of those movies bombed. They are also always high up on "The best movies" lists, and are constantly cited as cult favourites.

[Fallen]

They are also always high up on "The best movies" lists >>

Dune is highly rated? The original Dune? With Patrick Stewart? I thought that was horribly reviewed.

I love it. I own the expanded ver that they sometimes show on Sci-fi. Though I also loved the book, and believe them to be one of the best series of all time.

[CrystalTears]

Er.. what is the definition of bombed? Not making enough money? Not going over the budget? No one liking it?

Because Shawshank made over $59 million and had 7 Oscar nominations.

[StrayRogue]

It is highly rated in cult circles, yes. As is The Thing. I don't need to comment on Shawshank.

[Landrion]

Originally posted by Fallen
What part of GoF made you cry? >>

When Amos, Cedrick Diggory's father flipped out when he saw the corpes of his son, screaming "That's my boy."

I am very attached to my father, so the scene struck home.

Yes me too. Also, I have a young son so doubly so.

[CrystalTears]

No need to comment? You cited it as a bomb of a movie and I disagree.

As far as Harry Potter is concerned, or any movie made from a book for that matter, is that for the most part the books are usually better. If you start off hating the book, I don't see what would cause the movie to be that much better, especially when we're discussing characters and plot. Lots of movies ruin the book, but the book ruining the movie? Heh, doesn't compute.

[StrayRogue]

Originally posted by CrystalTears
Er.. what is the definition of bombed? Not making enough money? Not going over the budget? No one liking it?

Because Shawshank made over $59 million and had 7 Oscar nominations.

Shawshank bombed, massively. It cost something like $25 mil and made back around $28. In Hollywood such a thing is considered a failure and it was buried as such after playing only a selection of cinema's. I think it was opened at something like 33 theatre's on the opening weekend then a maximum of 1000. Basically it flopped, financially.

It became such a phenomenon simply because of word of mouth and video releases.

It's one of cinema's sleeper hit stories and is quite famous for being so. I don't know where you got $56 mil from.

[StrayRogue]

Originally posted by CrystalTears
No need to comment? You cited it as a bomb of a movie and I disagree.

As far as Harry Potter is concerned, or any movie made from a book for that matter, is that for the most part the books are usually better. If you start off hating the book, I don't see what would cause the movie to be that much better, especially when we're discussing characters and plot. Lots of movies ruin the book, but the book ruining the movie? Heh, doesn't compute.

Well first, your knowledge of film history is evidently lacking. Secondly, I've already quoted books that I disliked then loved the film. I can do it the other way around as well where I can say the book was awesome but the film was shite. As I love films I don't like to pidgeon-hole myself by disliking a film because I hated the book. Maybe you do, but I do not.

[CrystalTears]

Eh, cause I'm a geek and have IMDB Pro and it states $59 million for a worldwide gross. It probably does include all sales beyond box office, it doesn't break it down.

[StrayRogue]

The film was released nearly 12 years ago. 56 mil in all that time is nothing.

[Fallen]

Well first, your knowledge of film history is evidently lacking. Secondly, I've already quoted books that I disliked then loved the film. I can do it the other way around as well where I can say the book was awesome but the film was shite. As I love films I don't like to pidgeon-hole myself by disliking a film because I hated the book. Maybe you do, but I do not. >>

What would perk your interest into seeing a movie if you don't like the story it is based upon? Can you see where most people would make the assumption where you wont like it?

[StrayRogue]

Because I love movies. Plus I get to review them, so I guess a financial reason crops up too.

[CrystalTears]

Sorry if I don't agree on the definition of a bomb as far as movies go. If it meets and exceeds the budget, seems like a success to me.

I don't pidgeon-hole myself either, especially not for movies. If anything I'm the one telling people to give good movies a try regardless of how good the book was. However if someone comes to me and say they hate the plot of the book and/or characters, it doesn't make sense to recommend the movie. Maybe I'm just not in the mood to hear exactly this type of argument.

[HarmNone]

Personally, I love the Harry Potter series, both the books and the movies. I didn't go into it expecting a major literary triumph, and wasn't disappointed. However, I do find it to be a wonderful, childhood fantasy brought deftly to life at a level that children can grasp and enjoy, and adults can recapture a bit of the wonder and magic of a child's mind.

It's the kind of thing that all people don't enjoy; but, then again, what isn't? For those who enjoy it, it brings us a smile. For those who don't enjoy it, it's easily avoided.

[CrystalTears]

Easily avoided. Exactly. I don't understand the intent to specifically see a movie about a book they didn't enjoy, just to return and try to bring down people for liking it.

OMG Stray, you're a movie critic? That explains it. I've hardly, if ever, agreed with movie critics.

[Edited on 12/15/2005 by CrystalTears]

[StrayRogue]

Originally posted by CrystalTears
Sorry if I don't agree on the definition of a bomb as far as movies go. If it meets and exceeds the budget, seems like a success to me.



This is why you are not a hollywood executive. A failure these days in the movie industry is something that does not recoup it's money in it's opening weekend. Shawshank made back $700,000 on it's opening weekend. More money these days is pumped into a films marketing than the film itself. It's why shit like Fantastic Four catches people's attention while the good stuff, like Shawshank, Hotel Rwanda, etc go unseen.

[Fallen]

Bah, he is a film critic type person. Kinda skews the whole discussion as his choices for watching movies differ from that of the average person.

[StrayRogue]

Originally posted by Fallen
Bah, he is a film critic type person. Kinda skews the whole discussion as his choices for watching movies differ from that of the average person.

Not really. I don't get paid any different for toasting a film compared to giving it a glowing review.

[CrystalTears]

This is why you are not a hollywood executive.

Thank fucking God!

[Gan]

I found GoF to be the most engaging HP movie yet. I've of course read the books as well and I only have one disappointment and thats the emotion that the new professor Dumbledore actor has added to the role whereas the previous actor kept the professor aloof and dignified.

I suppose the reason why I have enjoyed the books and the movies so much thus far is that I started both with the expectation that it was originally a children's story and thus aligned my expectations accordingly. I have been very impressed with how JKR has walked the young reader through what started as a simplistic story following traditional antagonist/unsung hero plots to where the story is today. The journey that young readers have taken with each book as it advances in plot and complexity has helped develop and shape their reading ability.

Props to JKR for creating a marvelous world where children can enjoy an escape into magic and fantasy and grow with the characters as they make their way through the teenage years and teh trials and tribulations of Hogwarts. And props to the four different directors who have given their interpretation of each of the first four books to date. I own all three of the released CD's and intend to purchase the fourth when it is released to add to my collection.

[TheEschaton]

I didn't like HPIV (as much) because to me it seemed to move very quickly, and was disjointed. I realize this is because they had to cram in a lot because IV was longer'n the first three, but it took away from the movie.

Especially the scene with Voldemort, in the book, it has a delicious timelessness to it - as if time has stopped, as Death is contemplated, and Voldemort strikes a pose.

I didn't like that they dropped the whole Barty Crouch, Percy, Ministry line - it seemed like an important part to me. And the whole Ludo Bagman bit. And how Barty Crouch was the one who smuggled his son out of Azkahban.

Argh, I hate when movies edit the books to fit the plotline.

Edited to add: I dislike the new Dumbledore too. Mainly cause I think he sounds too American...and well, too stupid to be Dumbledore. And too not totally ripshit badass. The Only One He Ever Feared? My ass.

-TheE-

[Edited on 12-15-2005 by TheEschaton]

[Fallen]

Not really. I don't get paid any different for toasting a film compared to giving it a glowing review. >>

Well first, I hope you have some sort of formal education as to film, art, ect, which separates you from the average movie goer.

Second, you likely watch movies that if the average movie goer didn't have an active interest in seeing, wouldn't bother paying the price of admission/rental/ect due to the outside influences of your job(?)

It just skews the discussion. Your situation and POV is going to differ from the "Common man"

[Edited on 12-15-2005 by Fallen]

[Landrion]

I found the movie to be pretty entertaining. If I had a criticism Id say that they tried to crunch the book too much into too short a time. Perhaps this was the better solution than two movies.

As far as the portrayal of Voldemort. I found him unbalanced, obsessive and petty. Which, I imagine is spot on the mark for the character. He wasnt scary to me. But to quote Robin Williams and Dustin Hoffman in Hook "I remember you being a lot bigger. To a ten-year-old I'm Huge.". I suspect the target audience of the movie would find him a lot more intimidating.

In terms of the teenage angst. Again, not aimed at me. Still, I suspect the target audience might find the "not fitting in - only kids sitting out at the dance - trouble finding a date" problems easy to identify with. In addition to everything going on, Harry has real kid problems.

That calls to mind something I rather like about Potter. Hes not a messiah like hero who overcomes through some Neo like powers. All hes got going for him is the protections from Voldemort the events with his parents gave him and his own bravery. Hes brave and inventive and it is made thoroughly clear in this movie that the only reason he succeeds is because other characters rig the contest for him to do so. In fact, that is the same reason he survives his encounter with Voldemort - others intervene. This is consistent throughout the movies so far. Hed stand no chance with the basilisk if not for the phoenix. Lucius Malfoy could have blasted him to dust if not for Dobby and so on.

For my money, I find the movies to be a solid effort. I certainly would rather watch them than the tired old King Kong.

[Fallen]

As far as the portrayal of Voldemort. I found him unbalanced, obsessive and petty. Which, I imagine is spot on the mark for the character. He wasnt scary to me. But to quote Robin Williams and Dustin Hoffman in Hook "I remember you being a lot bigger. To a ten-year-old I'm Huge.". I suspect the target audience of the movie would find him a lot more intimidating. >>

Excellent point and great reference. What an awesome line.

[StrayRogue]

Originally posted by Fallen

Well first, I hope you have some sort of formal education as to film, art, ect, which separates you from the average movie goer.

Correct.



Second, you likely watch movies that if the average movie goer didn't have an active interest in seeing, wouldn't bother paying the price of admission/rental/ect due to the outside influences of your job(?)

It just skews the discussion. Your situation and POV is going to differ from the "Common man"



I see whatever comes out at the cinema, generally. I do like to watch some of the more uncommon movies, yeah, mainly foreign stuff. The difference is that in the foreign markets you have to be good to get any kind of worldwide notice. They don't have the money Hollywood does to throw around on some shit that will make some cash one weekend, then bomb. I sure Germany, France etc, has their own fair share of crappy movies. I've seen some of them but in general the films from such places that get released over here are of good quality. They don't have to use hype and marketing to get a good review. Unfortunately the same can't be said about audience.

Oh and I agree 100% with Landrion's comments on Voldermort being underwhelming.

[Skirmisher]

Originally posted by StrayRogue
I feel sorry for JK, to be honest. I know she hates the hole she's dug herself, regardless of the money. It must suck being considered a one trick horse.

Somehow, her being among the top 100 richest (and climbing) British citizens, I think she will somehow get by even without you feeling sorry for her.

I also think that after you move past the 100 million pounds mark, which she did LONG ago, you can no longer toss out the caveat of "regardless of the money" unless you are speaking in reference to the loss of a life or the like as money can sure as hell help with almost anything else.

[Edited on 12-15-2005 by Skirmisher]

[Trinitis]

Originally posted by StrayRogue
Hype, my dear.

Without the support of the fans from the books I doubt they'd be this far into the series.

I especially hated it because everyone said it was so dark and scary and evil. Voldermort was pathetic. Skeletor from Masters of the Universe looked scarier and hammed it up more. The teenage angst was eye-rolling and as always the plot was completely predictable: OMG wait it's not the dark arts teacher up to no good again is it????!!!??!?!?!?! Haven't they used this ruse in every other film to date?

[Edited on 15-12-05 by StrayRogue]

No. The last movie and book, the Dark Arts teacher was actually protecting Harry.

[Miss X]

I absolutely adore the books, to the point of obsession. I have enjoyed the films too but the books are better. Seen GoF twice now and I prefer it to Chamber of Secrets. I really can't wait for the Order of the Phoenix though, as long as they don't make it too disjointed and miss out too much. That was the only annoying thing about GoF.

I'm still trying to work out the twists in the plot in The Half Blood Prince! I refuse to believe Dumbledoor is dead and Snape is evil (although I kinda think he might be!

[Warriorbird]

Eh. I thought Goblet of Fire had a fair number of issues with pacing and drama and emphasis. With that said, I liked it second best out of the series (I liked the third film best). I really don't like the first two films (except the music).

[Edited on 12-15-2005 by Warriorbird]

[TheEschaton]

Snape is so obviously not evil. You can tell.........










SPOILERS










....that he was in love with Harry's mom. It would take a long time to explain it all, but think about it, you'll see it makes sense.

-TheE-

[Augie]

Originally posted by HarmNone
Personally, I love the Harry Potter series, both the books and the movies. I didn't go into it expecting a major literary triumph, and wasn't disappointed. However, I do find it to be a wonderful, childhood fantasy brought deftly to life at a level that children can grasp and enjoy, and adults can recapture a bit of the wonder and magic of a child's mind.

It's the kind of thing that all people don't enjoy; but, then again, what isn't? For those who enjoy it, it brings us a smile. For those who don't enjoy it, it's easily avoided.

Very well said, I totally agree. I have all of the Harry Potter books to date (and yes, I was there at midnight waiting for the last one at a Barnes and Nobles). It's all about magic and fun and there is an underlying plot line beneath all of the repetitive stuff.

I think the last movie was well done. I only wish it could have captured more parts of the book. I was in awe at the Quidditch World Cup when the teams were flying out into the arena.

I did get teary eyed when Cedric died. When his father threw himself onto his body.

All in all, to each their own. I will own the whole set of books, and the whole set of movies once they are complete.

[StrayRogue]

Originally posted by Miss X


I'm still trying to work out the twists in the plot in The Half Blood Prince! I refuse to believe Dumbledoor is dead and Snape is evil (although I kinda think he might be!

This is what I think will happen:
Snape goes "evil" to prove to V and co that he's really bad and can be back amongst them. Secretly he's done this to infiltrate the baddies. Ultimately his true intentions as a good guy trying to thwart the evil V will become known only to lead to his death, possibly involving a heroic deed or moment. OR you could go all Darth Vader, go right to the end of the evil line then come back and save Harry's ass only to be pwned afterwards.
Dumblewhore will come back ala Gene Grey.
Harry will die while destroying Voldermort.

[StrayRogue]

Originally posted by Trinitis

No. The last movie and book, the Dark Arts teacher was actually protecting Harry.

Except his doppleganger wasn't. It was still the dark arts teacher, even if it wasn't technically the same person.

[TheEschaton]

He's talking about BOok 3, Prisoner of Azkahban, where Remus Lupin, who was one of James Potter's old school buddies, was a very good friend of Harry's.


-TheE-

[Trinitis]

Originally posted by StrayRogue

Originally posted by Trinitis

No. The last movie and book, the Dark Arts teacher was actually protecting Harry.

Except his doppleganger wasn't. It was still the dark arts teacher, even if it wasn't technically the same person.

I'm sorry, my post made more sense in my head.

By last movie, I was refering to the 3rd movie (as in the last one before the current one).

In this movie, Lupin was not a death eater. He is protecting Harry.

[Trouble]

Originally posted by TheEschaton
I didn't like HPIV (as much) because to me it seemed to move very quickly, and was disjointed. I realize this is because they had to cram in a lot because IV was longer'n the first three, but it took away from the movie.

Especially the scene with Voldemort, in the book, it has a delicious timelessness to it - as if time has stopped, as Death is contemplated, and Voldemort strikes a pose.

I didn't like that they dropped the whole Barty Crouch, Percy, Ministry line - it seemed like an important part to me. And the whole Ludo Bagman bit. And how Barty Crouch was the one who smuggled his son out of Azkahban.

Argh, I hate when movies edit the books to fit the plotline.

Edited to add: I dislike the new Dumbledore too. Mainly cause I think he sounds too American...and well, too stupid to be Dumbledore. And too not totally ripshit badass. The Only One He Ever Feared? My ass.

-TheE-

[Edited on 12-15-2005 by TheEschaton]

The above post is pretty much how I feel about the GoF movie. It was too disjointed and rushed. I didn't really like the third movie all that much either, although I still watch it at least once a week (dork!).

[CrystalTears]

Oh don't get me wrong. There were a lot of parts in the book that I wish they included in the movie and felt they were relevant. But alas, they didn't feel it was important enough to include in the films.

I would have liked to see when the Weasley's take Harry from his aunt and uncle. I'd have liked to see Hermione's S.P.E.W. club introduced. Hell I wish they would have kept in more of the Percy happenings, since it would have more of the twins, which I adore.

I realize though, that if they did, the movie would have been at least 4 hours long. It's not that good to last that long.

[Hulkein]

I can't believe this many adults like Harry Potter.

[Snapp]

Originally posted by Hulkein
I can't believe this many adults like Harry Potter.
I thought the same thing until I read the books. Now I'm hooked too.

[Landrion]

Originally posted by Hulkein
I can't believe this many adults like Harry Potter.

Man, I know adults that love NASCAR. Fine for them, just doesnt suit me.

[Drew2]

Originally posted by StrayRogue

Originally posted by Tayre
Recycle the same plot? You act like Voldemort dies at the end of every book.

It's the same plot stretched across 7 books. Not 7 repeated plots.

[Edited on 12-15-2005 by Tayre]

I would consider the same happening in each book/film the same:

Lets condense it:

Something weird happens in the beginning fortelling an omen.

Harry goes to school.

Angst.

The new dark arts teacher is introduced.

Angst.

Harry is somehow implicated in those weird omen things at the beginning.

Angst and a little Snape.

Harry must undergo a tremendous task that someone of his age or knowledge could never do and he'll never be able to survive it or do it or be any success.

Angst.

He does it.

Dark Arts teacher revealed to be thrall of Voldermort. He/they are beaten.

Harry goes home.


Um EXCUSE YOU.

Prisoner of Azkaban, the Defense ADA teacher was NOT "the thrall of Voldemort" he was actually a werewolf that was Harry's father's friend that HELPED them.

PUT THAT IN YOUR STRAW AND SUCK IT.

[Artha]

Snape kills Dumbledore.

[Gan]

I bet Dumbledore split is life source just like Voldemort has done. I bet we'll be seeing Dumbledore again. Yeppers, thats what I think.

[Artha]

I bet Voldermort is Harry's father, and together they can take over the universe.

[Fallen]

My guess is Dumbledore ordered Snape to kill him.

[Artha]

I'm pretty sure if Dumbledore comes back, it'll be in ghost form, to tell Harry that everything's alright. Then ghost forms of his father (Voldemort) and mother will appear, wave and they'll all disappear together, finally at peace.

[TheEschaton]

I bet Dumbledore split is life source just like Voldemort has done. I bet we'll be seeing Dumbledore again. Yeppers, thats what I think.


Duh, to create a Horcrux, you have to commit a murder. And, as seen at the end of book V, when Dumbledore battles Voldemort, he's not willing to kill even him, what makes you think Dumbledore would kill merely to split his soul?

And, as Horcruxes work, you have to kill the split part first, before killing the person, otherwise the person won't die. Dumbledore died.


Hey, I'm in the Peace Corps, don't have anything to do put theorize about Harry Potter. I've even started writing my own fan fiction for the 7th book. "Harry Potter and The Moste Ancient Magick".

-TheE-

[CrystalTears]

Originally posted by Tayre
Um EXCUSE YOU.

Prisoner of Azkaban, the Defense ADA teacher was NOT "the thrall of Voldemort" he was actually a werewolf that was Harry's father's friend that HELPED them.

PUT THAT IN YOUR STRAW AND SUCK IT.

Heh, neither was the Dark Arts teacher in the Chamber of Secrets. He wasn't even a good wizard. He had nothing to do with Voldermort's plans.

[Czeska]

Originally posted by Artha
I'm pretty sure if Dumbledore comes back, it'll be in ghost form, to tell Harry that everything's alright. Then ghost forms of his father (Voldemort) and mother will appear, wave and they'll all disappear together, finally at peace.

That's not Harry Potter, that's Return of the Jedi.

[Artha]

Same thing.