Emeradan

[FinisWolf]

A voice whispers, "No matter where you run, or where you hide, I shall still find you... I shall still seek you."

You say, "Really?"

You ask, "Yes?"

You ask, "No?"

You leap from hiding to attack!
You swing an onyx-inlaid veniom-hilted falchion at a hunch-backed dogmatist!
AS: +391 vs DS: +236 with AvD: +37 + d100 roll: +33 = +225
... and hit for 95 points of damage!
Smash to cheek driving bone through the eye and into the brain.
The hunch-backed dogmatist awkwardly staggers backwards, falling to her knees. "Why hast ye forsaken me m'lord, served you well I did!" beckons the dogmatist in a desperate prayer.

Silence hangs heavy in the air as the dogmatist exhales her final breath, collapsing lifelessly to the ground.
Roundtime: 6 sec.

You are now in a defensive stance.

You search the hunch-backed dogmatist.
You discard the dogmatist's useless equipment.
She didn't carry any silver.
She had nothing of interest.
The opalescent aura fades from around a hunch-backed dogmatist.
A hunch-backed dogmatist crumbles in upon herself, her skin flaking away as if it only served as an outer shell.

A voice whispers, "Yours will become a distant memory, and your children's children will strain to remember that which was sought unto extinction."


Emeradan whispers, "Heh, thanks for being awake and alert. Kudos. ;)."

You grin.

An old memory bubbles up from your past, and causes you to reflect a moment. With a flash of insight, you realize you understand yourself a bit better than you did a moment ago. The sudden feeling of self-knowledge is a pleasant one.

I went from clear to saturated! Nice!

report that was cool Emeradan, I would much rather encounter that, then other things that are done, like quake and e-wave. You had me thinking something was going on, so I checked to see if it was a game wide message, but only Promo saw, so I was like, o damn, something is happening. :-)

SEND[Emeradan] Harder to script around that, too. Thanks again, and have a good night. ;)

[Razarn]

so you get an rp for being AT the keyboard where your SUPPOSED to be now . Fucking ridiculous.

[FinisWolf]

Waaaa, I got an rpa because I stayed in character, as I should have, unlike some folks that get pissed and throw temper tantrums because a GM tries to keep the check IC.

Finis

[FinisWolf]

O, and BTW, its more about the COOL way he did it. He wasn't an asshole, he was cool, kept his interaction IC, until he explained the interaction to me.

I like that. So I shared.

Finis

[Sean]

Because it's supse cool IC to hear audible whispers while hiding for you to respond to.

[Aaysia]

my character got an rpa once cuz Hadlir (i think..) accidentally pulled her into a room instead of Kitrina.


Not any big spectacular RP moment..but yay RPA!!

[Asha]

If he wasn't prepared to play it out he should have just made a regional quake.
Instead you had some totally random, impossible to explain voice talk some obscure shit to you. And when you respond, you get an RPA?

Maybe he didn't have the time to play out something fun and IC with you.

[TheEschaton]

That's like all unscripted GM action.

The one time I had a COMMUNE answered, after awhile, the GM just killed me, I imagine because (s)he had to go, even though I'm a priest in His service.

To be fair, the Arkati in question is Charl, and I was being a bit...whinging, I believe is the word.

-TheE-

[Edited on 12-12-2005 by TheEschaton]

[fallenSaint]

I got a few RPA rewards for being awake and playing a in character role when checked on my script hunting.

Its not like he is offering a XXX its like 300-500 exp. Emeradan isn't Mr Nazi on the whole scripting at least like some can be, rather enjoy my characters interacting with him when he does Checks.

[Latrinsorm]

Emeradan is a good guy.

It's very, very wrong to give out RPAs for being at the keyboard.

It's bad to be throwing around emoticons IG.

[Xandalf]

Ridiculous.

A ROLEPLAYING award for actually being at the keyboard while scripting?

Unbelievable that GM's do that.

[Renian]

I think it's fine as long as you roleplay decently in your response. If you don't roleplay, or don't roleplay enough, you should not be given an RPA.

[ElanthianSiren]

Wow. Who cares who a gm wants to give rpas or not give rpas to and for whatever reason?

GS has never had a standard system when it comes to RPAs. I don't consider that a pitfall of the game, more a failure in their systems that will never be corrected, therefor we can't change that limitation by complaining about it.

Nice job on the RPA :thumbsup:


-M

[Joe]

I find that most negative comments regarding people getting rpas for things they don't think matter originate from people who don't get any/enough of them to feel validated to begin with. Then again, that's just me and I don't post much, so I probably don't count for much opinion-wise. Ah well.

[AnticorRifling]

A reward for doing what you're supposed to be doing is kind of weak. Rewards should go for above and beyond actions.

Punish infractions

Allow those with in the guidelines to just be

Reward those that go above and beyond


It's not rocket science.

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by Joe
I find that most negative comments regarding people getting rpas for things they don't think matter originate from people who don't get any/enough of them to feel validated to begin with. If we're getting rpas for not being AFK, you're damn right I'm not getting enough. I was at the keyboard before being at the keyboard was cool.
Originally posted by ElanthianSiren
Who cares who a gm wants to give rpas or not give rpas to and for whatever reason?People doing what they're *supposed* to do isn't cause for a reward. I didn't kill about 300 people today, do I get a reward? No, I'm not supposed to kill people.

IOW: What Anticor said.

[ElanthianSiren]

My point was the gemstone process for awarding RPAs is completely subjective. There is no system to create checks and balances on how they are awarded and how much.

You are arguing something is more subjective (they weren't RPing as much as I wanted them to) vs. a GM's subjective judgement (they were RPing as much as I expected them to); you are always going to lose.

-M

[Sean]

Eh I'm okay with RPA's getting a bad rep it takes away from people using them as a tool to validate their asinine RP and saying "But I got 50000 RPA's obviously I'm doing everything perfectly!"

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by ElanthianSiren
You are arguing something is more subjective (they weren't RPing as much as I wanted them to) vs. a GM's subjective judgement (they were RPing as much as I expected them to); you are always going to lose.I am in fact arguing that one should not be awarded for behavior that is to be expected of every player (i.e. being at the keyboard). Roleplay is not a factor. Emeradan's exact words: "thanks for being awake and alert." Not: "Thanks for role-playing."

Even if it were the case that role-playing was the issue, subjectivity is not carte blanche to reward anything. There are situations where a sort of inter-subjective norm doesn't jive with the action of the GM. For instance: RPA for walking into a room.

A thought occurs: Are they officially called RPAs or is that a player-created term?

[Xandalf]

They are officially known as Roleplaying awards.

http://www.play.net/gs4/info/roleplaying-awards.asp

[Edited on 12-12-2005 by Xandalf]

[B2]

I prefer this to people getting RPAs for interacting with GMs at, say, weddings.

GMs. Not NPCs. Not room messaging. GM says, "Man I like hot dogs." Person replies "I'll give YOU a hot dog!" GM giggles, simpers, and gives person an RPA.

GMs are not in character! They don't exist! They aren't there! If they say something...just ignore them! Don't respond out loud. Whisper. Report.

And GMs need to stop baiting people.

Jharra's taking a good step by making a CHE NPC to interact with characters to take care of CHE needs, instead of doing it as GM Jharra.

I wish they would make wedding stewards for the Cathedral Weddings, instead of having Hosts and GMs standing there, interacting with the crowd.

GMs just need to NOT be visible.

[ElanthianSiren]

I agree with GMs never being visible in game.

Latrin, he was roleplaying, and the GM whispered to him, which is often considered an OOC action apart from IC action in game, thereby you are saying HE was not roleplaying ENOUGH in your opinion to deserve an RPA.

Maybe the GMs opinion of what constitutes good RP differs here, which isn't surprising since most peoples' would. Even if you don't like it, the character RP'd at least three lines with the weirdass voice, and it was only after that exchange that the GM whispered.

-M

[ElanthianSiren]

Originally posted by B2
I prefer this to people getting RPAs for interacting with GMs at, say, weddings.

I tested this a few times actually. I think GS uses an area targetting function for RPA's at weddings (system). My character has been at those and done nothing and also been at them and participated and attained the same RPAs each time consistently (only did a six test split though, so this is not statistically significant, just a hypothesis at this point).

-M

[FinisWolf]

The weddings I have attended/been involved in netted me 3 RPA's out of 6 weddings. Only two where I was involved.

Finiswolf has recieved (a guess) about 50 rpa's since his inception 4 years ago. Most of which come from events. A few from invasion, and the few I already mentioned from weddings.

Finis

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by ElanthianSiren
Latrin, he was roleplaying,Assuming this is true for the sake of argument.
and the GM whispered to him, which is often considered an OOC action apart from IC action in game,This is true.
thereby you are saying HE was not roleplaying ENOUGH in your opinion to deserve an RPA.Again, Emeradan did not award him for roleplaying. Emeradan awarded him for being at the keyboard. Roleplaying was not a factor. Unless you can find a document saying that all incidents of that award messaging are for RPAs, we only have Emeradan's words to go by.

[FinisWolf]

I think people just bitch because they like to hear themselves bitch.

It was a cool way to check, and thats what I was sharing.

Finis

[Bobmuhthol]

I got an RPA for helping Andraste test katars.


edit: there was no attempt at roleplay on either end

[Edited on 12-13-2005 by Bobmuhthol]

[Joe]

Originally posted by FinisWolf
I think people just bitch because they like to hear themselves bitch.
Finis

:yeahthat:

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by FinisWolf
I think people just bitch because they like to hear themselves bitch.
Don't get your excercise by jumping to conclusions.

[Alfster]

Originally posted by Bobmuhthol
I got an RPA for helping Andraste test katars.


edit: there was no attempt at roleplay on either end

[Edited on 12-13-2005 by Bobmuhthol]

I've had things like that as well and it seems some gms give out a RP award if they check on you and your not doing anything wrong. They really should rename them to "following policy" awards.

[FinisWolf]

Originally posted by Latrinsorm

Originally posted by FinisWolf
I think people just bitch because they like to hear themselves bitch.
Don't get your excercise by jumping to conclusions.

I am hardly jumping to a conclusion. Perhaps a better understanding of the english language would aide your unstated statement.

Finis

[Sean of the Thread]

I got a RPA for killing Michaelous once.

[FinisWolf]

Hell! For that you should of received a few RPA's.

:lol:

Finis

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by FinisWolf
Perhaps a better understanding of the english language would aide your unstated statement.Perhaps a better grasp of the English language would allow you to write "should have" instead of "should of".

Any way you slice it, people who are at the moral baseline should not be rewarded. If you believe otherwise I'll be expecting $20 (American) for every time I didn't punch you in the face. A lump sum is preferred, but I'm also amenable to reasonable payment plans.

[Fission]

Sounds like Simu actually wants people to script hunt, given that they've repeatedly rewarded people for doing it with even more xp.

How many times has anyone gotten RPAs for hunting manually? Probably pretty damn few.

[Czeska]

I got an RPA the other day for helping a GM work on some bugs and typos. Did I RP it? Hell no. But i was pleased to get the acknowledgement.

I would agree with having an RPA for JUST RP.. and some other name for it if someone goes out of their way to do something to help.

Help test for some bugs? Spend your game time helping a GM? {instafried} Thanks, here's a BEA (bonus exp award).. or something

[Asha]

RPAs are given out pretty easy.
I've had two simply for casting at something while stood around just watching, during an invasion.
I even think some of the Solhaven Oleani crew think to themselves ''Hmm how should I get todays RPA?''... Then they do a 'MY CHAR is ...'' to get the GMs attention, then waffle on and on at her alter.

You know what Fin, you should have RPd that your character was deaf.
Watch him give you an RPA for that when you're sat in the consultation lounge.

[4a6c1]

I see it as positive reinforcement. With all the stupid OOC shit that goes on in Gemstone I'm not against people who dont take part in all that getting something for their efforts, however small.

[FinisWolf]

Originally posted by Nevermind
RPAs are given out pretty easy.
I've had two simply for casting at something while stood around just watching, during an invasion.
I even think some of the Solhaven Oleani crew think to themselves ''Hmm how should I get todays RPA?''... Then they do a 'MY CHAR is ...'' to get the GMs attention, then waffle on and on at her alter.

You know what Fin, you should have RPd that your character was deaf.
Watch him give you an RPA for that when you're sat in the consultation lounge.

That would of been risky, but definetly hilarious.

Finis

[Fallen]

I think that the RP should be cut out of the RPA. Just view them as Awards. For whatever reason, you were awarded experience.

P.S.

I have gotten RPAs for pointing out typo's, never got an RPA for RPing about Script checks, however.

P.P.S.

I don't script hunt.