Some archery and fletching questions.

[Adhara]

I haven't hunted in about a year and saw there have been changes to archery and fletching. My first question concerns ebladed arrows.

How it worked before:

An ebladed bundle would hold a number of charges (up to a maximum of 999 or 1000, I forget). When you took 1 arrow out of the bundle, it would come with 2 charges. You shot it once, using up one charge, then returned it to the bundle with its remaining charge. To maximize the total charges of my bundle, I would split it into smaller ones, get them ebladed separately and bundle them back together.

Example: I would split my bundle of 20 arrows into 4 bundles of 5. Each bundle gets ebladed with 250 charges, I bundle them back together and I now have 20 arrows that hold a pool of 1000 eblade charges.

This no longer works because apparently, two bundles cannot be bundled. Only a single arrow with a bundle.

My question: Am I correct in understanding that under the current system, the maximum number of eblade charges I can hope to have on my bundle is the number of charges given by a single cast? Instead of 1000 charges I will now have to go with whichever caster can give me the most in 1 cast? Or am I missing another way of getting more?

More random questions:

The news says we're no longer limited to the 24 colors available at the fletcher. How does that work? I saw he still gives the choice of 24.

Is it worth it for me to make 4x bolts instead of bothering with the eblade?

How much does the 4x wood/cap cost?

Does it matter which I choose between a 4x base wood or a 4x cap? Or is it purely cosmetic (or monetary)?

What good is the gather verb with this nonsense of not bundling bundles? Is this a "feature" or broken?

[Lomoriond]

>gather bright arrow
put my arrow in my arrows in my sheath
You gather 5 bright golden arrows into a bundle.
>You bundle some bright golden arrows together.
>look arrows in my sheath
You carefully count the arrows and find 27 in the bundle, each one being a bright golden arrow, with a strength of 30 and a durability of 60. The arrows are surrounded by a scintillating silver light.

(borrowed from a log last week)

"put my arrow in my arrows in my (quiver)" works to bundle multiple bundles IF they are identical in every fashion (identical appearance, breakage, and special effect, if any)


Dunno about the rest of it, i've been gone a year and don't know anything about crafting from special woods or colors.

[Edited on 12-11-2005 by Lomoriond]

[Lomoriond]

Just checked, and multiple stacks of arrows CAN be bundled via the ordinary bundle verb.

The problem I believe you are facing is the inconsistency of e-blades... arrows e-bladed with fire cannot be bundled with anything other than other arrows e-bladed with fire.

Find a wizard who can attune to an element so all your arrows get e-bladed with the same element, and they will bundle just fine and dandy.

[Adhara]

These bolts are all ebladed with lightning. It does not vary. I gather them up and it won't let me bundle them with those in my container. But if I break them up, I can bundle them back with the original bundle one by one.

Also, I just made 2 new bolts with the changes including magical wood and caps. Both bolts are identical in every way and it won't let me bundle them together.

Edit: Ok I swear I'm not crazy but those two new bolts were *identical* until I put them away in a container then pulled them out and their show description had changed a bit. So that answers this. Still have the original problem with eblade though.

[Edited on 12-12-2005 by Adhara]

[Adhara]

You carefully count the bolts and find 19 in the bundle, each one being a fiery orange heavy crossbow bolt, with a strength of 45 and a durability of 45. The bolts are surrounded by a scintillating silver light.
>take 1 bol
You remove a single heavy crossbow bolt from a bundle of fiery orange bolts.
>drop bol
You drop a fiery orange heavy crossbow bolt.
>put bol in my jac
>
You put a bundle of fiery orange bolts in your grey leather jacket.
>take 1 bol from jac
You remove a single heavy crossbow bolt from a bundle of fiery orange bolts.
>drop bol
You drop a fiery orange heavy crossbow bolt.
>gather bol
You gather 2 heavy crossbow bolts into a bundle.
>put bol in bol in my jac
You cannot bundle these together.

[fallenSaint]

Can't tell ya whats up with your bolts there, I never had problems bundling my arrows back and forth could always assist and see if they can find out what went wrong.

[Warriorbird]

I had similar problems...but only with merchant bought flarers. Assist, maybe.

[Skirmisher]

Nice to have you back btw Adhara.

[fallenSaint]

Only time I ever ran into an issue with mine was usually one arrow or bolt running out of its second flare unexpectedly. If it helps any I always used a basic bone arrow make with the same Bard doing my ebladeing for the wind flares.

[Gizmo]

Originally posted by Adhara
You carefully count the bolts and find 19 in the bundle, each one being a fiery orange heavy crossbow bolt, with a strength of 45 and a durability of 45. The bolts are surrounded by a scintillating silver light.
>take 1 bol
You remove a single heavy crossbow bolt from a bundle of fiery orange bolts.
>drop bol
You drop a fiery orange heavy crossbow bolt.
>put bol in my jac
>
You put a bundle of fiery orange bolts in your grey leather jacket.
>take 1 bol from jac
You remove a single heavy crossbow bolt from a bundle of fiery orange bolts.
>drop bol
You drop a fiery orange heavy crossbow bolt.
>gather bol
You gather 2 heavy crossbow bolts into a bundle.
>put bol in bol in my jac
You cannot bundle these together.

E-Bladed Arrows are still somewhat wonky, to help you with a few questions I'll chime in.


1) You are still correct about the eblading of arrows/bolts and the best way to go about them. It's still better to eblade smaller bundles of 10 at a time then bundle them all together, as opposed to eblading just one bundle of 100.

2) Try using the syntax "put my bolt in my bolts in my jacket" sometimes it gets confused with the wording used.

3) I personally steer clear of eblading and blessing arrows, due to the fact it still has problems of it's own. Sure with no blessings I can't hunt undead, but I never get frustrated with arrows. If you want flares for the arrows, I suggest either trying to find blue griffin feathers for sale and make fletchings out of them for the lightning flares or even try to find a minor mechanical...or major...quiver. Both allow production of flaring arrows, one of the major made ones unlimited but with random flaring, the other major one made I believe 20k arrows all which would flare every hit..Almost like an ebow really and could be recharged by merchants. The minor ones made 200 arrows with random flaring. Both type of quivers flares were determined by the elemental magic a wizard or what not would cast at the quiver.

I personally have been using nothing but faewood arrows for the overall +25 with simple store bought fletchings without arrowheads since right now it is only for cosmetics. As for the different paint colors, check out various stores as some may have colors others don't.

As for Tilmont saying there are now alot more colors, he was mainly referring to the possibility is out there. Paints are now found in boxes and are usually custom colors, like Bright Pink etc.

Any other questions about archery or fletchin, feel free to look me up.

[Adhara]

Originally posted by Skirmisher
Nice to have you back btw Adhara.

Thanks! I actually started playing again regularly (just levelled up for the first time in over a year!). Although I had never stopped browsing the player's corner during the last year I expect to post a little more often from now on.



1) You are still correct about the eblading of arrows/bolts and the best way to go about them. It's still better to eblade smaller bundles of 10 at a time then bundle them all together, as opposed to eblading just one bundle of 100.


Yes others have confirmed this as well. The bolts I had trouble with are over a year old (and so is the eblade on them) so that may be a factor.


Sure with no blessings I can't hunt undead, but I never get frustrated with arrows.

Being a cleric myself, getting a blessing won't be a problem and when I get around to it, I'll fletch myself a bundle with regular fletching. So far I have only used holy water bolts on undead but I don't like to put all my eggs in the same basket.



If you want flares for the arrows, I suggest either trying to find blue griffin feathers for sale and make fletchings out of them for the lightning flares [...]

I had spent a lot of time in the keen last year and had several stacks of griffin fletchings lockered away for the day that I could use them for something. I did just what you said and fletched myself some faewood bolts fletched with griffin feathers. That fixed all my problems. I can now bundle two bundles and not have to ever worry about the eblade. I'm a very happy archer.



As for Tilmont saying there are now alot more colors, he was mainly referring to the possibility is out there. Paints are now found in boxes and are usually custom colors, like Bright Pink etc.

Ah well. When I read about it I thought I could buy a nondescript vial of paint and have it mixed at the dyer's tent or something like that. I guess I'll keep and eye out for (pretty) boxfound ones and hope they start selling some at events.

Thanks a lot for all your responses. After reading the fletching folder on the officials, it looks like there are still problems with fletched projectiles but at least mine are over!