Chronicles of Narnia Appreciation WARNING: Spoilers

[Liberi Fatali]

Hmm, I have not yet encountered a current thread for this movie, so I'll start one.

Having just seen it (I saw the 1:45 p.m. viewing over here in Ireland), I must say, I was quite impressed.

I read the book ages ago, so even the most obvious of details (character names) escaped me. I was totally oblivious to most of the plot, so it was a bit of a thriller for me as well.

It was just awe-inspiring. I walked away from the cinema with a feeling I've never had before. It was just that good?! Granted, there were a few annoying characters (the White Witch's 'henchman'?!)

I had the biggest smile on my face watching the pudgy little girl steal the show. She was awfully cute. I also found the other 'daughter of Eve' to be quite a looker.

I'm interested to hear everyone elses take on the movie. It was grand, there's no doubt about it.

As a note... stick around for about 2 minutes after the movie. There's an additional clip of footage. NOT after the credits -- it's almost immediately after the movie.

[Edited on 12-9-2005 by Liberi Fatali]

Edited to change title to state that it contains spoilers.

[Edited on 12/10/2005 by CrystalTears]

[StrayRogue]

Christian dogma at it's best.

[Sean of the Thread]

I always watch the credits! I'll be taking my daughter to see this tonite as well.

[SpunGirl]

I can't wait to go see this. I read all of the chronicles as a kid and again one summer in college when I was bored. Good stories.

-K

[Jayvn]

Cool, he didn't want his books made into movies, because at the time they woulda botched the shit out of them.. so Iom tells me, but I doubt they could have dreamed of the technology today for films. I'll drag her to see it soon.

[StrayRogue]

Um, they've made films of this series before.

[Makkah]

You'd think people in med school wouldn't have time to go see a lunch matinee...

[Liberi Fatali]

Originally posted by StrayRogue
Christian dogma at it's best.

Actually, they toned down the Christian references quite a bit. They being the director, that is. It's barely noticable.

[Liberi Fatali]

Originally posted by Makkah
You'd think people in med school wouldn't have time to go see a lunch matinee...

Haha, too bad this is 'revision week', and I've had the entire week off. Finals next week. Oh, come on, you're not going to comment how 'shitty' my 'island' medical school is?

Back on topic, etc.

[Sean of the Thread]

Originally posted by Liberi Fatali

Originally posted by StrayRogue
Christian dogma at it's best.

Actually, they toned down the Christian references quite a bit. They being the director, that is. It's barely noticable.

No offense but who the fuk were you before you changed your name?

[Liberi Fatali]

Originally posted by Xyelin
No offense but who the fuk were you before you changed your name?

Tabor-tooth-tiger.

[Sean of the Thread]

Originally posted by Liberi Fatali

Originally posted by Xyelin
No offense but who the fuk were you before you changed your name?

Tabor-tooth-tiger.

Thanks..

Also do you wear a nice satin scarf around your neck like Tony the tiger?

[Liberi Fatali]

Originally posted by SpunGirl
I can't wait to go see this. I read all of the chronicles as a kid and again one summer in college when I was bored. Good stories.

-K

Can I ask you a question, then? I haven't read any other books besides this one...

In the other books, are they about the SAME four children? Do the characters go into the same wardrobe in all the books?

[CrystalTears]

Originally posted by Liberi Fatali
In the other books, are they about the SAME four children? Do the characters go into the same wardrobe in all the books?

Not at all. There are very few characters that appear in more than one book. They're all different, with different characters and stories. If memory serves, the children only get mentioned in another book. It's been a while.

[Sean of the Thread]

Ok here comes the spoilers.

[SpunGirl]

Yes, they are about the same children. At the end of the first book, as I remember, they're hunting for the white stag and get lost in the forest, and stumble back out of the wardrobe. No time has passed in the outside world, but next time they find their way back into Narnia a ton of time has passed.

Also, there is a book (I wish I could remember which one) where they are a bit older and have been going about the business of growing up, and they stumble back to Narnia and find their old castle, etc, and kind of go, "oh shit that's right we used to live here!"

Now I want to go read again yay!

-K

[Liberi Fatali]

Originally posted by CrystalTears

Originally posted by Liberi Fatali
In the other books, are they about the SAME four children? Do the characters go into the same wardrobe in all the books?

Not at all. There are very few characters that appear in more than one book. They're all different, with different characters and stories. If memory serves, the children only get mentioned in another book. It's been a while.

Aw, that's disappointing. But... do they all use the wardrobe?

Dammit, heh. I have to go order the box-set now. There's a scene in the movie that totally left me dazed and confused. I'd post about it, but it'd be a 'spoiler'.

Who... the heck... is the... professor?! I'd better get started on reading.

[Liberi Fatali]

Originally posted by SpunGirl
Yes, they are about the same children. At the end of the first book, as I remember, they're hunting for the white stag and get lost in the forest, and stumble back out of the wardrobe. No time has passed in the outside world, but next time they find their way back into Narnia a ton of time has passed.

Also, there is a book (I wish I could remember which one) where they are a bit older and have been going about the business of growing up, and they stumble back to Narnia and find their old castle, etc, and kind of go, "oh shit that's right we used to live here!"

Now I want to go read again yay!

-K

Ahem, well, since you mentioned it -- yes, this scene is in the movie. The grown-up actors are ALL thoroughly enticing. Well, save for Edmond.

Curious, though... does the time 'stop' in Narnia when they leave, just as it does in real life?

[CrystalTears]

Hmm, I was wrong then. Could have sworn that they weren't key characters in the other books.

Look what I have to reread this weekend! :D

[Czeska]

I can't wait to see this. The previews make it look like it's on a LotR scale.

I also can't wait til my daughter is old enough to enjoy these books.

[SpunGirl]

Wait, now CT has me thinking that I'M wrong.

We need to read! I remember that some books had a different focus, like The Voyagae of the Dawn Treader, but I had thought the kids were present. Maybe not though.

The name of the castle was something like Cair Paravel?

Also, I thought this movie was just the first book. Did they try to cram all kinds of shit into the movie?

-K

[Liberi Fatali]

Originally posted by Czeska
I can't wait to see this. The previews make it look like it's on a LotR scale.

I also can't wait til my daughter is old enough to enjoy these books.

Speaking of little children...

There was myself and my flatmate in the cinema along with four other adults. So basically, there were 6 'adults' there.

I counted TWENTY-FIVE children. One group of TWELVE just got LEFT their by their mum.

I wonder if it'll be the same in the States. So... many... kids. They didn't pose a problem, but for feck's sake. It was like they let out daycare into the cinema.

[SpunGirl]

Is the Last Battle the only one where they come back? Damn. DAMN DAMN DAMN ::goes to Barnes and Noble::

-K

[SpunGirl]

Is the Last Battle the only one where they come back? Damn. DAMN DAMN DAMN ::goes to Barnes and Noble::

-K

[SpunGirl]

Is the Last Battle the only one where they come back? Damn. DAMN DAMN DAMN ::goes to Barnes and Noble::

-K

[CrystalTears]

Little bit of a SPOILER here I think..




The end of this book has them grown up before they return home, and they suddenly are children again since time stood still at home while in Narnia.

[Liberi Fatali]

Originally posted by SpunGirl
Wait, now CT has me thinking that I'M wrong.

We need to read! I remember that some books had a different focus, like The Voyagae of the Dawn Treader, but I had thought the kids were present. Maybe not though.

The name of the castle was something like Cair Paravel?

Also, I thought this movie was just the first book. Did they try to cram all kinds of shit into the movie?

-K

Hmm, no, to my knowledge it was all based on just THAT book. What made you think otherwise? If it was something specific, let me know and I'll clarify.

God, I have to U2U you about a spoiler scene. Is it all right if I do so?

[Liberi Fatali]

Originally posted by CrystalTears
Little bit of a SPOILER here I think..




The end of this book has them grown up before they return home, and they suddenly are children again since time stood still at home while in Narnia.

Yes, that's in the movie. The professor is there waiting for them when they come out.

[Tsa`ah]

Originally posted by Liberi Fatali
Curious, though... does the time 'stop' in Narnia when they leave, just as it does in real life?


Originally posted by SpunGirl
but next time they find their way back into Narnia a ton of time has passed.

[Drew2]

I read all seven books about a month ago.


The first one isn't about the children at all.

The second one (The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe) is about the 4. They basically set the stage for the next 5 books. They DO make appearances in the following books, but the books aren't necessarily about THEM. At least one of them makes an appearance in every single book, because they were the "greatest kings/queens ever".

Spun is kinda right, kinda wrong. In the end of TLTWATW, they are searching for the stag and stumble back out of the wardrobe. No time has passed, as she said. When they're in Narnia, no time passes in the real world. When they're in the real world, one year can equal 100+ years in Narnia.


Other notes:

The first book is about the professor and the origination of the wardrobe.

The wardrobe is never used ever again after this book.


Edited again because Fallen is a crybaby.

[Edited on 12-10-2005 by Tayre]

[Liberi Fatali]

Originally posted by Tsa`ah

Originally posted by Liberi Fatali
Curious, though... does the time 'stop' in Narnia when they leave, just as it does in real life?


Originally posted by SpunGirl
but next time they find their way back into Narnia a ton of time has passed.


Just teasing. Thanks.

[Liberi Fatali]

Originally posted by Tayre
I read all seven books about a month ago.


The first one isn't about the children at all.

The second one (The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe) is about the 4. They basically set the stage for the next 5 books. They DO make appearances in the following books, but the books aren't necessarily about THEM. At least one of them makes an appearance in every single book, because they were the "greatest kings/queens ever".

Spun is kinda right, kinda wrong. In the end of TLTWATW, they are searching for the stag and stumble back out of the wardrobe. No time has passed, as she said. When they're in Narnia, no time passes in the real world. When they're in the real world, one year can equal 100+ years in Narnia.

Not to ruin it for anyone, but at the very end of the last book, Narnia is destroyed.

You son of a bitch. Haha. So much for no spoilers.

[Liberi Fatali]

Originally posted by Tayre

The wardrobe is never used ever again after this book.

[Edited on 12-9-2005 by Tayre]

How do they get to Narnia, then?

[Drew2]

Well it depends. They're pulled in through a painting in one story, they're summoned by a horn in another, and in yet another they use the same way the professor got there originally.

Each book has a different way that they enter Narnia, and a different way they leave.

[CrystalTears]

Actually The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe IS the first book. The Magician's Nephew was the second book, which is the telling of Narnia's creation.

It's only recently that publishers changed the order of those two books because they felt that people should read about the creation of Narnia before the children discover it. Personally I think it dents the wonder of Narnia if you learn about it first.

[Drew2]

Well my brother got the set from a book order thing and I read them in the order they came in, and the inside cover stated that as the correct order. I guess they did change it or something.

My mistake.

[Warriorbird]

I've always liked the Magician's Nephew best.

The books are generally pretty tolerable up till The Last Battle.

[Caiylania]

Spoilers.

Glad I read books already :/

Glad the movie is great! Can't wait to see it.

[SpunGirl]

Isn't the old guy whose house they live in (professor) aware of the wardrobe? He says something vaguely ominous about it, as I recall.

-K

[CrystalTears]

Yes, in the book he knows all about the wardrobe being an entrance to Narnia. He also states that it's not the only entrance. ;)

[Praefection]

Posted in the right topic this time.

I just got back from seeing this show. I did read the book a looooong time ago as a kid. When I mean a long time I'm talking around fifteen years so I don't remember exact details.

Overall I thought it was pretty good but some areas could have been explained a little more. Like, who the White Witch was and why she had evil plans for Narnia. Another small irk was there were several of the darker characters who I didn't get a feel of who they were and how they related to the story other than being minions.

But on the plus side, a lot of the imagery was exquisite and while I'm not complaining some of the 'war' scenes were a bit darker than I'd be bring a five year old to see. That fact made is seem less like a kid's movie and something I actually wanted to see (which I did.)

Great way to piss away a few hours this afternoon.

[Fallen]

Just updating the title as there are tons of spoilers in this, including the final outcome of the series. (Thanks a bunch, Tayre.)

[Drew2]

Originally posted by Praefection
Like, who the White Witch was and why she had evil plans for Narnia.

Explained in The Magician's Nephew.




Another small irk was there were several of the darker characters who I didn't get a feel of who they were and how they related to the story other than being minions.


Same as above.

[CrystalTears]

Originally posted by Fallen
Just updating the title as there are tons of spoilers in this, including the final outcome of the series. (Thanks a bunch, Tayre.)

Done. :)

As far as explanations about certain things, those come in the rest of the series. It's good to know that this director has planned to do the entire series, so that will be great to look forward to.

[Rangerpuff]

I totally enjoyed this movie, my best friend and I snuck out to see it without the kids. We had a great time. Of course we plan to take the kids later, they'll love it.

[Rangerpuff]

I totally enjoyed this movie, my best friend and I snuck out to see it without the kids. We had a great time. Of course we plan to take the kids later, they'll love it.

[Marl]

I hate living in a place surrounded by southern Baptists. After the movie was over some fuckin woman gets up and starts preaching to the damn crowd. "The lion is represented as Jesus as C.S. Eliot wrote a twist on the Bible itself bla bla bla" I told the woman on the way out its just a book made into a movie shut the hell up! Now I am on my way to hell woo hoo!

edited to add it was a great movie and they did better than I ever thought possible on this classic.


[Edited on 12-11-2005 by Marluxian]

[Edaarin]

Originally posted by Marluxian
I hate living in a place surrounded by southern Baptists. After the movie was over some fuckin woman gets up and starts preaching to the damn crowd. "The lion is represented as Jesus as C.S. Eliot wrote a twist on the Bible itself bla bla bla" I told the woman on the way out its just a book made into a movie shut the hell up! Now I am on my way to hell woo hoo!


That reminds me of something that happened at my school a few months ago.

The kicker was one of my residents walked by this demonstration, and was told by a 7 year old kid that he was going to hell.

http://www.cavalierdaily.com/CVArticle.asp?ID=24378&pid=1336

[Daniel]

I loved these books as a kid but all I can really remember (since I read them when I was 6) is that the last battle sucked so much dick that it literally took me months to finish.

[Tisket]

Originally posted by StrayRogue
Christian dogma at it's best.

Hardly. Lewis himself stated in an interview that his only agenda in writing the Narnia series was to tell a good tale. The kind of story he would've liked to read himself as a child. Were there some Christlike parallels in the death of Aslan? Sure, but if you can't look further than that and see this as a great story regardless then the loss is yours.

[Czeska]

I'm not taking my daughter. The battles will more than likely bore her after 30 seconds, and I think she's going to flip when some of the animals die. We'll wait.

[Drew2]

OMG. This movie pwnpwnpwnpwnd!!!!

I literally got goosebumps at parts towards the end. My little brother said he did too. It was a drag like the first 30 minutes or so, but then it's like WHOA.

Awesome movie.

[CrystalTears]

We went to see this last night. It was SO awesome! Must see it again soon! It was fucking amazing. I'm very impressed with it.