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Asha
12-05-2005, 04:51 PM
Can I see examples of beginning stats and the stats of characters when they reached a hundred trains?

I'd really really appreciate it if you could post them.
More the merrier, and don't be afraid to post the fucked up ones too.
Thankyou.

Edited to add : Forgot to ask for Race and profession.


[Edited on 12-5-2005 by Nevermind]

Fallen
12-05-2005, 05:04 PM
I will post mine when I get home. I will have everything at 100 besides Influence ... because Evarin doesn't influence, he frightens.

Latrinsorm
12-05-2005, 05:05 PM
I don't know if you're trying to see viability or you're just curious or what, but if all you want to see is how stats grow, there's a site here (http://www.tsoran.com/venura/gs3/) that will show you.

However, in three or four years when I finally cap a character, I'll be happy to bump this thread with his or her stats. :)

Asha
12-05-2005, 05:12 PM
It's to show me the differing Stats, professions and races sometimes lack at cap. Sometimes they all fill, sometimes a stat was placed wrong for growth, whatever.
I'm interested to be honest.

Plus I didn't plan for the long run with my main character.
God, I was going to sell him at 30. So when he caps in a couple of months he'll be less than 100 with inf, con and int.
So it's also to give me a chance for the next one.

Drew
12-05-2005, 05:13 PM
Level 0 Stats for, Human Ranger

Strength (STR): 85
Constitution (CON): 60
Dexterity (DEX): 93
Agility (AGI): 91
Discipline (DIS): 52
Aura (AUR): 40
Logic (LOG): 66
Intuition (INT): 95
Wisdom (WIS): 58
Influence (INF): 20



Level 100 stats:

STR 100
CON 77
DEX 100
AGL 100
DIS 70
AUR 57
LOG 77
INT 100
WIS 79
INF 39



As you can see I don't care much for having a lot of 100s at cap, he already has all the 100s he's ever going to get.

Gan
12-05-2005, 05:14 PM
Name: Race: Sylvankind Profession: Empath (not shown)
Gender: Male Age: 33 Expr: 8368415 Level: 100
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
Constitution (CON): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
Dexterity (DEX): 97 (33) ... 97 (33)
Agility (AGI): 100 (30) ... 100 (30)
Discipline (DIS): 98 (19) ... 98 (19)
Aura (AUR): 78 (19) ... 78 (19)
Logic (LOG): 82 (16) ... 82 (16)
Intuition (INT): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
Wisdom (WIS): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
Influence (INF): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
Mana: 407 Silver: 1204


>info start
Level 0 Stats for , Sylvankind Empath

Strength (STR): 93
Constitution (CON): 79
Dexterity (DEX): 69
Agility (AGI): 75
Discipline (DIS): 70
Aura (AUR): 20
Logic (LOG): 20
Intuition (INT): 74
Wisdom (WIS): 80
Influence (INF): 80


Stats set for max TP's.

StrayRogue
12-05-2005, 05:16 PM
Stay:

Level 0:
STR 75
CON 77
DEX 80
AGL 68
DIS 77
AUR 77
LOG 69
INT 62
WIS 45
INF 30

Level 100:
STR 100
CON 100
DEX 100
AGL 100
DIS 100
AUR 96
LOG 97
INT 100
WIS 65
INF 67

Asha
12-05-2005, 05:19 PM
This is all excellent news, since I assumed it was only deemed any good to get all @ 100.
Thanks guys.

StrayRogue
12-05-2005, 05:20 PM
Not really. To get 100 in your stats at level 100 means placing, usually, your prime stats lower, which means less points to play with.

The Cat In The Hat
12-05-2005, 05:40 PM
Level 0 Stats for Gothique, Elf Empath
Strength (STR): 88
Constitution (CON): 51
Dexterity (DEX): 73
Agility (AGI): 70
Discipline (DIS): 73
Aura (AUR): 62
Logic (LOG): 62
Intuition (INT): 73
Wisdom (WIS): 50
Influence (INF): 58


Name: Gothique Susperia Race: Elf Profession: Empath (shown as: Krolvinbane)
Gender: Female Age: 152 Expr: 8237064 Level: 100
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
Constitution (CON): 79 (14) ... 74 (12)
Dexterity (DEX): 100 (30) ... 100 (30)
Agility (AGI): 95 (37) ... 95 (37)
Discipline (DIS): 100 (10) ... 100 (10)
Aura (AUR): 100 (30) ... 100 (30)
Logic (LOG): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
Intuition (INT): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
Wisdom (WIS): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
Influence (INF): 100 (35) ... 100 (35)

Dwarven Empath
12-05-2005, 06:06 PM
Level 0 Stats for Medi, Dwarf Empath

Strength (STR): 78
Constitution (CON): 59
Dexterity (DEX): 70
Agility (AGI): 81
Discipline (DIS): 53
Aura (AUR): 77
Logic (LOG): 69
Intuition (INT): 75
Wisdom (WIS): 51
Influence (INF): 47

Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 96 (33) ... 96 (33)
Constitution (CON): 98 (39) ... 98 (39)
Dexterity (DEX): 87 (18) ... 87 (18)
Agility (AGI): 93 (16) ... 93 (16)
Discipline (DIS): 98 (34) ... 98 (34)
Aura (AUR): 100 (15) ... 100 (15)
Logic (LOG): 100 (30) ... 100 (30)
Intuition (INT): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
Wisdom (WIS): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
Influence (INF): 88 (9) ... 88 (9)
Mana: 375 Silver: 24065

Askip
12-05-2005, 06:38 PM
<< I assumed it was only deemed any good to get all @ 100 >>

It is mathematically impossible to get all 100s.

You would be hampering your PC's early levels if you place many stats low enough at the start to reach 100 at level 100.

I could start a dark elf wizard with 50 in Aura, but I sure would miss those MTP's and Spirit.

Most folks settle for a happy medium.

:D

Soulpieced
12-05-2005, 06:40 PM
In most cases, I think dark elves of a few professions can get all 100's. I could get all 100's and a 98... but it resulted in losing something along the magnitude of 1000 TPs. Dropping some stats a few points is definitely worth it, and there is a balance necessary between the stats you want, and how many TPs you are going to lose permanently by placing to get all 100s.

Artha
12-05-2005, 06:43 PM
Everyone that tanked influence is going to cry if Savants are ever released.

Sean of the Thread
12-05-2005, 06:43 PM
Tsoran's spreadsheet will do you wonders.

Strength (STR): 97 (23) ... 97 (23)
Constitution (CON): 97 (18) ... 94 (17)
Dexterity (DEX): 94 (32) ... 94 (32)
Agility (AGI): 95 (27) ... 95 (27)
Discipline (DIS): 96 (13) ... 96 (13)
Aura (AUR): 95 (32) ... 95 (32)
Logic (LOG): 93 (21) ... 93 (21)
Intuition (INT): 95 (27) ... 95 (27)
Wisdom (WIS): 97 (28) ... 97 (28)
Influence (INF): 66 (3) ... 66 (3)

Drew
12-05-2005, 07:03 PM
I went for max TPs, had to give up 1500tps at cap for good stats. That's a lot of training to lose.


Edit: 1500.

[Edited on 12-6-2005 by Drew]

Latrinsorm
12-05-2005, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by Soulpieced
but it resulted in losing something along the magnitude of 1000 TPs.I doubt that. I just did a quick check with cphillips73's awesome utilities, and here are the results, max TP plan in front.

5802 to 5174 PTP
4313 to 4729 MTP.

One gains about 600 PTP, but loses about 200 in convertable MTP for a net gain of about 400 PTP.

Using the same utility, no dark elf can have all 100s.

Soulpieced
12-05-2005, 07:11 PM
You probably used different numbers. My stats/TPs are pretty much maxed for what I feel is the ideal stat total for a giantman bard. If I change my stats around to get all 100s (or as close as possible), I bet you it's a significant amount.

[Edited on 12-6-2005 by Soulpieced]

Sean of the Thread
12-05-2005, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by Soulpieced
You probably used different numbers. My stats/TPs are pretty much maxed for what I feel is the ideal stat total for a giantman bard. If I change my stats around to get all 100s (or as close as possible), I bet you it's a significant amount.

[Edited on 12-6-2005 by Soulpieced]

I agree.. I've lost too much interest in this game to work out the best TP plan for my stats and have kept the min/max one instead. Of course I would want the tp plan but.. I just don't feel like it.

Latrinsorm
12-05-2005, 07:59 PM
http://home.mchsi.com/~cphillips73/StatCruncher/StatCruncher.html

If you can pick your character's race and profession, you can get an excellent stat plan.

SP: I'm sure you had different numbers. That being said, 1000 TPs is a ridiculously huge amount. I just ran giantman bard through the aforementioned applications and got at most a 200 TP swing, even with physical weighting on the TP max plan (which bard's maxxed stats plans don't lend themselves too) because I think I remember you being a CM kind of guy.

Soulpieced
12-05-2005, 08:08 PM
What I mean is those stat combos it's giving you stinks. I have 8 100's, 1 near 100, and an 80 in a worthless stat (constitution). That thing spits out 100, 91, 96, 100, 90, 94, 95, 100, and crap like that. And that would be for maybe an extra 100 TPs tops. That's what I meant.

Stunseed
12-05-2005, 08:22 PM
My Wizard will have a 98 Wisdom and a 95 Dex, the rest are all 100's.

mgoddess
12-05-2005, 08:49 PM
While I have no capped characters currently, I can see what a couple of my character's stats will be at cap with Tsoran's spreadsheet...

Level 0 Stats - Elf Warrior
Strength (STR): 100
Constitution (CON): 100
Dexterity (DEX): 50
Agility (AGI): 80
Discipline (DIS): 70
Aura (AUR): 70
Logic (LOG): 70
Intuition (INT): 50
Wisdom (WIS): 50
Influence (INF): 20

At 100:
Strength: 100
Constitution: 100
Dexterity: 100
Agility: 100
Discipline: 91
Aura: 98
Logic: 84
Intuition: 86
Wisdom: 78
Influence: 78

Level 0 Stats - Aelotoi Ranger
Strength (STR): 80
Constitution (CON): 50
Dexterity (DEX): 90
Agility (AGI): 70
Discipline (DIS): 60
Aura (AUR): 70
Logic (LOG): 60
Intuition (INT): 90
Wisdom (WIS): 70
Influence (INF): 20

At 100:
Strength: 100
Constitution: 82
Dexterity: 100
Agility: 100
Discipline: 94
Aura: 91
Logic: 83
Intuition: 100
Wisdom: 100
Influence: 48

Level 0 Stats - Human Rogue
Strength (STR): 65
Constitution (CON): 65
Dexterity (DEX): 90
Agility (AGI): 90
Discipline (DIS): 70
Aura (AUR): 80
Logic (LOG): 60
Intuition (INT): 50
Wisdom (WIS): 70
Influence (INF): 20

At 100:
Strength: 100
Constitution: 97
Dexterity: 100
Agility: 100
Discipline: 98
Aura: 98
Logic: 90
Intuition: 95
Wisdom: 84
Influence: 64

As you can see, I don't always go for the 100's in the end...I go more for a happy medium between 100's, TP's, and just making the character work. :)

Drinin
12-05-2005, 10:17 PM
Half-elf paladin (currently 47):

At 0:

Strength (STR): 85
Constitution (CON): 68
Dexterity (DEX): 70
Agility (AGI): 82
Discipline (DIS): 60
Aura (AUR): 85
Logic (LOG): 65
Intuition (INT): 35
Wisdom (WIS): 90
Influence (INF): 20

At 100:

Strength (STR): 100
Constitution (CON): 100
Dexterity (DEX): 100
Agility (AGI): 100
Discipline (DIS): 96
Aura (AUR): 100
Logic (LOG): 80
Intuition (INT): 70
Wisdom (WIS): 100
Influence (INF): 77

The sylvankind bard (currently level 87):

At 0:

Strength (STR): 80
Constitution (CON): 80
Dexterity (DEX): 57
Agility (AGI): 65
Discipline (DIS): 75
Aura (AUR): 77
Logic (LOG): 88
Intuition (INT): 20
Wisdom (WIS): 39
Influence (INF): 79

At 100:

Strength (STR): 100
Constitution (CON): 100
Dexterity (DEX): 100
Agility (AGI): 100
Discipline (DIS): 88
Aura (AUR): 100
Logic (LOG): 100
Intuition (INT): 64
Wisdom (WIS): 81
Influence (INF): 100

Danical
12-06-2005, 12:11 AM
Level 0 Stats for Gnimble, Burghal Gnome Bard
Strength (STR): 70
Constitution (CON): 70
Dexterity (DEX): 23
Agility (AGI): 24
Discipline (DIS): 86
Aura (AUR): 82
Logic (LOG): 82
Intuition (INT): 70
Wisdom (WIS): 73
Influence (INF): 80

Strength (STR): 98 (9) ... 98 (9)
Constitution (CON): 98 (34) ... 98 (34)
Dexterity (DEX): 88 (29) ... 88 (29)
Agility (AGI): 80 (25) ... 80 (25)
Discipline (DIS): 100 (20) ... 100 (20)
Aura (AUR): 100 (30) ... 100 (30)
Logic (LOG): 100 (35) ... 100 (35)
Intuition (INT): 98 (29) ... 98 (29)
Wisdom (WIS): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
Influence (INF): 100 (20) ... 100 (20)

Jayvn
12-06-2005, 01:15 AM
dark elf wizard,

starting stats

(STR): 70
(CON): 85
(DEX): 49
(AGI): 73
(DIS): 77
(AUR): 49
(LOG): 63
(INT): 63
Wisdom (WIS): 73
Influence (INF): 58

current at 65

(STR): 79 (14)
(CON): 95 (17)
(DEX): 87 (28)
(AGI): 91 (25)
(DIS): 93 (11)
(AUR): 87 (28)
(LOG): 88 (19)
(INT): 88 (24)
(WIS): 91 (25)
(INF): 81 (10)

and when i hit cap

STR: 84
Con - WIS: 100
INF: 90

Fallen
12-06-2005, 08:17 AM
I will post mine when I get home. >>

Sorry about that, We had an area wide power-outage from 4:30PM to sometime around 2AM. Horrible stuff.