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hectomaner
11-18-2005, 04:24 PM
from 60 minutes a few weeks back.

I don't think being a minority makes you a victim of anything except numbers. The only things I can think of that are truly discriminatory are things like the United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine, Black Entertainment Television, and Miss Black America. Try to have things like the United Caucasian College Fund, Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment Television, or Miss White America; and see what happens...
Jesse Jackson will be knocking down your door.
Guns do not make you a killer. I think killing makes you a killer. You can kill someone with a baseball bat or a car, but no one is trying to ban you from driving to the ball game.

I believe they are called the Boy Scouts for a reason, that is why there are no girls allowed. Girls belong in the Girl Scouts! ARE YOU LISTENING MARTHA BURKE?


I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of others because they are different, weird, or tick me off.

When 70% of the people who get arrested are black, in cities where 70% of the population is black, that is not racial profiling, it is the Law of Probability.
I believe that if you are selling me a milkshake, a pack of cigarettes, a newspaper or a hotel room, you must do it in English! As a matter of fact, if you want to be an American citizen, you should have to speak English!

My father and grandfather didn't die in vain so you can leave the countries you were born in to come over and disrespect ours. I think the police should have every right to shoot your sorry ass if you threaten them after they tell you to stop. If you can't understand the word "freeze" or "stop" in English, see the above lines.

I don't think just because you were not born in this country, you are qualified for any special loan programs, government sponsored bank loans or tax breaks, etc., so you can open a hotel, coffee shop, trinket store, or any other business.

We did not go to the aid of certain foreign countries and risk our lives in wars to defend their freedoms, so that decades later they could come over here and tell us our constitution is a living document; and open to their interpretations.

I don't hate the rich. I don't pity the poor.
I know pro wrestling is fake, but so are movies and television. That doesn't stop you from watching them.

I think Bill Gates has every right to keep every penny he made and continue to make more. If it ticks you off, go and invent the next operating system that's better, and put your name on the building.

It doesn't take a whole village to raise a child right, but it does take a parent to stand up to the kid; and smack their little behinds when necessary, and say "NO!"

I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you want them, but please don't pretend they are a political statement. And, please, stay home until that new lip ring heals. I don't want to look at your ugly infected mouth as you serve me French fries!

I am sick of "Political Correctness." I know a lot of black people, and not a single one of them was born in Africa; so how can they be "African-Americans"? Besides, Africa is a continent. I don't go around saying I am a European-American because my great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather was from Europe. I am proud to be from America and nowhere else.
And if you don't like my point of view, tough...
THEN DON'T PASS IT ON!!

all i can say is wow, this guy has balls saying this on network tv.

Gan
11-18-2005, 04:28 PM
I can not find a single thing in that statment to which I disagree with.

Well said.

Thx for sharing.

hectomaner
11-18-2005, 04:45 PM
yeah, i agree with most everything, however i dont find BET that big of a deal, as its not black only, just majority. the united negro college fund point is spot on though.

Landrion
11-18-2005, 04:46 PM
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/rooney4.asp

Moreover, Andy Rooney himself denied it in 2003, saying:
About a year ago, I became aware of a more serious theft of my name and it is so hurtful to my reputation that it calls for legal action against the thief. Hundreds of people have written asking if I really wrote the 20 detestable remarks made under my name that have had such wide circulation on the Internet.

Some of the remarks, which I will not repeat here, are viciously racist and the spirit of the whole thing is nasty, mean and totally inconsistent with my philosophy of life. It is apparent that the list of comments has been read by hundreds of thousands of Americans, many of whom must believe that it accurately represents opinions of mine that I don't dare express in my column or on television. It is seriously damaging to my reputation.


Mr. Rooney disclaimed the above-quoted piece again in his 60 Minutes segment of 23 October 2005, saying of it:
There's a collection of racist and sexist remarks on the Internet under a picture of me with the caption ‘ANDY ROONEY SAID ON 60 MINUTES.’ If I could find the person who did write it using my name I would sue him.

Wezas
11-18-2005, 04:49 PM
Um yeah, I agree with pretty much everything too.

White Entertainment Televtion (WET) FTW!

Landrion
11-18-2005, 04:49 PM
I guess it bears mentioning that although Rooney finds the 20 remarks detestable, I think theyre hilarious....

Skirmisher
11-18-2005, 04:51 PM
:noob:

DeV
11-18-2005, 04:53 PM
Someone beat me to posting the Andy Rooney denial. I've read it before. Some points I agree with and some are hilarious, yet outdated in thinking and practice. :rah:

hectomaner
11-18-2005, 05:02 PM
oh, my dad actually filled me in on this, no idea about it being false, or old, sorry

Warriorbird
11-18-2005, 05:11 PM
:baa:

Showal
11-18-2005, 09:25 PM
It doesn't sound like the way Rooney phrases things. There are things I agree with, things I don't, and things that are funny. I also find it funny when people try to pass these things off as other people's work, like that horrible top ten list of things that piss me off someone tried to pass off as Adam Sandler where it says something like "I hate when people point at their wrist when asking the time, I don't point at my crotch when I ask where the bathroom is." I thought the Adam Sandler thing was stupid where this is funny.

Back
11-18-2005, 09:32 PM
I knew it was fake when I read this...


My father and grandfather didn't die in vain so you can leave the countries you were born in to come over and disrespect ours. I think the police should have every right to shoot your sorry ass if you threaten them after they tell you to stop. If you can't understand the word "freeze" or "stop" in English, see the above lines.

If you follow Rooney at all you would know he has a big thing against swearing. Still, I would laugh my ass off it he did swear.

Showal
11-19-2005, 07:47 AM
That's what I was thinking about. I've never heard him swear, he definitely seems like a guy who can find more appropriate words to convey his feelings.

ElanthianSiren
11-19-2005, 08:14 AM
He also strikes me as intelligent enough to recognize that the United States has no mandatory language/national language. English is not it; it just happens to be what many feel we should speak.

Some things I agreed with. Others, I just rolled my eyes. Some made me snicker at the ignorance of whomever wrote that piece.

-M

Dwarven Empath
11-19-2005, 08:55 AM
Isn't just about every other channel, accept UPN, white?

Artha
11-19-2005, 09:19 AM
He also strikes me as intelligent enough to recognize that the United States has no mandatory language/national language. English is not it; it just happens to be what many feel we should speak.
Not officially. However, if you want to be legal, you need to be able to read the citizenship test. I'm pretty sure it only comes in one language.

Showal
11-19-2005, 09:27 AM
I have to say, the language barrier strikes me as very annoying. We had some portuguese people re-tile our kitchen floor. Only one spoke english. One day I came home and they were ripping up all the NEW tiling off the floor and no one could explain to me why they were doing this. In fact, the only explanations I could receive were a few uncomfortable smiles and "No english". A few hours later, the guy who could barely speak english explained "no stick right, have to lay down again".

I don't mind when people try to work through it, when they actually make an effort. When I was in Mexico, I made a very good effort to speak Spanish. If I was in Portugal, had been there for years, didn't know how to say anything other than "I don't speak Portuguese", I would be considered an asshole.

So, while we don't have an "official" language, the language the far and almost absolute majority speak is English. I feel you should, at least, out of respect for the area you're living, make somewhat of an effort to learn the language.

Latrinsorm
11-19-2005, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by Celember
Isn't just about every other channel, accept UPN, white? No other channel is specifically intended for one shade, and I challenge you to find any station that has a higher percentage of white people on air than the national average.

Daniel
11-19-2005, 12:02 PM
Heh. I think the whole thing about the UNCF and what nots are extremely ignorant.

The question is, do you NEED a united Caucasian college fund and if so for what reason?

Racism is at an all time low in america but that doesn't mean that there are not still barriers that minorities generally have to overcome that most caucasians don't.

[Edited on 11-19-2005 by Daniel]

Skirmisher
11-19-2005, 12:06 PM
:yeahthat:

One would think that would be obvious, but it seems it is not.

Warriorbird
11-19-2005, 12:59 PM
No other channel is specifically intended for one shade, and I challenge you to find any station that has a higher percentage of white people on air than the national average.

:coughs: Fox News?

Latrinsorm
11-19-2005, 01:41 PM
FoxNews isn't a station, it's an abomination.

Blazing247
11-19-2005, 02:18 PM
"Racism is at an all time low in america but that doesn't mean that there are not still barriers that minorities generally have to overcome that most caucasians don't. "

Sorry man, I gotta call you out on this stupid remark. How the fuck would anyone, let alone you, know this? Are they selling racism barometers at K-Mart now?

Where I live, racism is alive and well. The black community and the white community in the greater Trenton area most certainly do NOT get along well. As for me, I hate stupid scumbags in general, white, hispanic, black or otherwise. I pretty much hate most people I meet. <G>

As for fake Rooney comments, I agree with a lot of them. In today's society, where we preach about wiping away the racial lines, why be antagonistic and make black only or white only ANYTHING? I thought it's not okay to exclude people from things on the basis of their skin color, whether's it white excluding black or black excluding white.

Daniel
11-19-2005, 03:39 PM
How the fuck would anyone, let alone you, know this?

I'm sorry, do you know me? What exactly precludes me from knowing this?

But to answer your question of "How would I know it?"

Well, I've been a minority for the vast majority of my time in this planet. I realize by not having a name like Tariq it's hard for people like yourself to get that and I know that despite the racism that still prevails today it's only a shadow of what it once was when I would have had to ride the back of the bus, use different bathrooms and generally couldn't do well for myself without the prospect of being lynched.

Then of course theres the fact that I'm not relegated to picking cotton 20 hours a day because I gots me a strong back.

*edit Typo

[Edited on 11-19-2005 by Daniel]

Dwarven Empath
11-19-2005, 08:34 PM
"No other channel is specifically intended for one shade, and I challenge you to find any station that has a higher percentage of white people on air than the national average"

That made me laugh.

Specifically intended? Probably not.