2 Foehn's Promise tickets

[Jay]

For sale. Buyer pays any transfer fee if applicable.

1 for sale for RL cash. Minimum bid $300.00

Another for sale for in-game silvers. Minimum bid 30 million silvers.

Yes, I know steep. Yes, I know, greedy pig.

I'm more to happy to go myself if they don't sell.

[hectomaner]

wow, talk about a bitch

[Skirmisher]

Yeah...thats one of the crappiest things i've seen merchantwise in awhile.

[Zanagodly]

hahahahaha

[The Ponzzz]

And that is why Simu needs to not allow ticket transfer...

[hectomaner]

not to mention, you bought 2 tickets, which really makes you a bitch to simu, in addition to just being a bitch in general

[Skirmisher]

True

[The Ponzzz]

And most likely has a third as well....

[Drew]

I anticipate an Anticor pimp hand flex sometime soon.

[CrystalTears]

Since when are tickets transferrable?

[hectomaner]

since at least as long as the Dhu

[CrystalTears]

Simu really has their head up their ass. Damn.

[SpunGirl]

I imagine at least one of them will sell.

-K

[radamanthys]

75 woulda been ok for a ticket... as a standard member...if you people didn't buy them all!

GAH!

I hate how I can only play a fraction of this game without being too poor to eat.

It's their business model, though, and it works, apparently. More power to the company, can't knock good capitalism in my right mind. GMs are all pretty cool people, and work hard to do this and other stuff for us, so it would be pretty cruel to really tear them a new one for this, especially after EG was free.

But I CAN bitch and while like a 14 year old girl. Commence bitching now. <whine>

[CrystalTears]

They can sell their tickets for any amount they want. What they shoudln't have done was allowed them to be transferrable. That was dumb.

[SpunGirl]

Meh, if you want to complain to anyone, complain to the head d00ds. As far as I know, GMs don't really have anything to do with setting prices... they just slave to create shops and alter for people who h8erade on them when they say "no" to an item, and get a teeny GM share check in the mail.

-K

[The Ponzzz]

Yea GMs only get a very very small amount of those ticket sales, which then gets split up between the active GMs who do the event.

And complaining to anyone at Simu will get you no where on these subjects.

[Edited on 11-14-2005 by The Ponzzz]

[SayGoodbye]

Re-fucking-diculous.

[stfu]

We understand that some parties may have purchased tickets for the sole purpose of resale to other customers. We are willing to refund the cost of these tickets, in full (the standard $5 service charge for this will not apply) to those parties who wish to release their tickets back to us due to this announcement. Any tickets that are released back to us will be resold.

-- excerpt from GS board.

[Silvanostar]

https://www.play.net/forums/messages.asp?forum=102&category=1&topic=1&message= 1221

pwned

[mgoddess]

Hahahaha....he won't make any money off of it...





>Foehn's Promise Ticket Transfers

We have decided to disallow Foehn's Promise ticket transfers unless we can verify that both accounts are owned by the same household. Ticket transfers will not be permitted under any other circumstances. Billing changes since this announcement will not be accepted as verification.

We understand that some parties may have purchased tickets for the sole purpose of resale to other customers. We are willing to refund the cost of these tickets, in full (the standard $5 service charge for this will not apply) to those parties who wish to release their tickets back to us due to this announcement. Any tickets that are released back to us will be resold.

All inquiries regarding this ruling should be directed to quests@simutronics.com.

Those who wish to transfer or receive a refund for their Foehn's Promise tickets should submit the following information to quests@simutronics.com.

1. Account name holding ticket -
2. Security answer for ticketed account -
3. Character ticket is assigned to -
4. Ticketed event -
5. Event run date -
6. Type of request (trade/gift/transfer/upgrade/return) -
- If upgrade, specify which ticket level -
7. Character and/or account receiving ticket -
8. Authorization to charge service fee (waived for returns) -
9. Additional information -


Totally PWNed...

[Skirmisher]

Good.

Lets pray they end up with only consolation prizes.:fu:

[SpunGirl]

ROFL PWND!

-K

[Brattt8525]

:lol2:

[radamanthys]

pwned.

People still have like 7 or 8 characters actually going though. Kinda sucks for the rest of us. Simu doesn't care, but they should. Different people make for a more fun event. 8 of the same person is just shit. They still get their cash, though.

I'd just be looking for containers, runestaves and niiiice full leathers anyway.

keep me in mind on the runestaves and fulls. My staff is only 5.5x and my leathers only 6x swcp (thought they were heavy).

[Jay]

hehe

Mission accomplished.

[GSLeloo]

Just a quick question cause I'm kinda out of the gemstone loop...

What exactly are these tickets and how much did they con people out of this time?

[Jay]

They are tickets to a week long event on a merchant ship named Foehn's Promise. The real allure is an auction/raffle during the ship's run in which EACH of the 250 attendees is GUARANTEED an "auction quality" item. All for the low low price of only $75.00! No ups, no downs, no extras!

It was run once before years and years ago in Gemstone's "illustrious" past after which there was much hue and cry as people claimed that it equated to Simu selling items for cash. As a result many GM's (including on-site GM's) at the time publically stated that such an event would never happen again.

Well, until they needed the money apparently. :)

[mgoddess]

Originally posted by Jay
hehe

Mission accomplished.

Assuming by this statement that your original post wasn't serious and was meant to get people running to the officials angry, in hopes of getting Simu to freeze ticket transfers?

Nicely done. :)

[SpunGirl]

So your mission was to get them to disallow ticket transfers? ::scratches head::

-K

[Jay]

Well, that and be entertained by frustrated folks pulling their hair out in clumps!

[TheRoseLady]

Originally posted by Jay
Well, that and be entertained by frustrated folks pulling their hair out in clumps!

It's a good thing Aspen (Virilneus) didn't see this, he would have had a stroke. :lol:

[Edited on 11-14-2005 by TheRoseLady]

[hectomaner]

1. way to try to back off the burner by saying it was just to stir up shit. you are lying, end of story.

2. the main reason the GMs said that it would not happen again was because it took up almost 9 months worth of GM resources that could be better put into many areas

3. dont be surprised when you see the exact item list from the plat auction as the raffle auction for this event (unless the plat was less than 250 items, then obviously they'd have to incorporate more, most likely things that have been put out already)

[TheRoseLady]

Hecto -

You don't know Jay very well. The guy doesn't need the cash. And he's famous for collecting auction quality items. I'm sure that he had scoped out all the possibilities before putting up his tickets.

[Sean of the Thread]

Originally posted by The Ponzzz


And complaining to anyone at Simu will get you no where on these subjects.


You were saying?

[Bobmuhthol]

I didn't need the cash when I sold my character, but I did it anyway. No matter what his intentions were, that's a pretty weak defense.

[Sean of the Thread]

Originally posted by TheRoseLady
Hecto -

You don't know Jay very well. The guy doesn't need the cash. And he's famous for collecting auction quality items. I'm sure that he had scoped out all the possibilities before putting up his tickets.


I think Hecto was spot on with one.

Oh you can stfu now.

[hectomaner]

Originally posted by TheRoseLady
Hecto -

You don't know Jay very well. The guy doesn't need the cash. And he's famous for collecting auction quality items. I'm sure that he had scoped out all the possibilities before putting up his tickets.

you do realize that your comment has absolutely NOTHING to do with what i posted, right?

[TheRoseLady]

Originally posted by Xyelin

Originally posted by TheRoseLady
Hecto -

You don't know Jay very well. The guy doesn't need the cash. And he's famous for collecting auction quality items. I'm sure that he had scoped out all the possibilities before putting up his tickets.


I think Hecto was spot on with one.

Oh you can stfu now.

Apparently we were both off. Now you can STFU.

[TheRoseLady]

Originally posted by hectomaner
you do realize that your comment has absolutely NOTHING to do with what i posted, right?

Yeah, I thought you were talking about his intentions with the tickets - not the stirring the pot.

However, instigating is an art for Jay. And I say that with much love and admiration.

I have a ticket, I am not selling it and I don't care about the policy. So I'll let just stfu like Xyelin said and let Jay take care of himself.


[Edited on 11-14-2005 by TheRoseLady]

[Skirmisher]

Originally posted by Bobmuhthol
I didn't need the cash when I sold my character, but I did it anyway. No matter what his intentions were, that's a pretty weak defense.

Yes.

[SpunGirl]

I agree with Bob, Xyelin and Hecto. I think he's just sad he got the pwn-shaft.

-K

[Ardwen]

Except this rule change does NOTHING to prevent Jay, which I find unlikely, or anyone else from selling anything, sure they cant go to the event. What is preventing them from etting the item said ticket generates? We all know 90 percent of the people going on the Promise arent going to play Bones or get alters.


Ardwen

[Drew]

Originally posted by hectomaner
3. dont be surprised when you see the exact item list from the plat auction as the raffle auction for this event (unless the plat was less than 250 items, then obviously they'd have to incorporate more, most likely things that have been put out already)


Yeah, I'm sure that they're just gonna release another Sorrow :lol::no:

[hectomaner]

Originally posted by SpunGirl
I agree with Bob, Xyelin and Hecto. I think he's just sad he got the pwn-shaft.

-K

yes, pwn-shaft indeed. i love it

[hectomaner]

Originally posted by Drew

Originally posted by hectomaner
3. dont be surprised when you see the exact item list from the plat auction as the raffle auction for this event (unless the plat was less than 250 items, then obviously they'd have to incorporate more, most likely things that have been put out already)


Yeah, I'm sure that they're just gonna release another Sorrow :lol::no:

dont see where the fuck you saw the word sorrow in my post.

[Edited on 11-15-2005 by hectomaner]

[Ardwen]

Why not? Almost noone who owns Sorrow actually uses it, its an amazing item sure but its also a death trap most of the time.


Ardwen

Also There was originally intended to be a twin anyway.

[Skirmisher]

Who cares if they release another for that exact reason.

[The Ponzzz]

Yea I got pwnd, but I heard from a lil'birdie someone linked a GM here and this was the cause....

[Sean of the Thread]

Originally posted by The Ponzzz
Yea I got pwnd, but I heard from a lil'birdie someone linked a GM here and this was the cause....

Well no shit.

[Jolena]

GM's read these boards all the time. :shrug: No secret really.

[Drew]

Originally posted by hectomaner

Originally posted by Drew

Originally posted by hectomaner
3. dont be surprised when you see the exact item list from the plat auction as the raffle auction for this event (unless the plat was less than 250 items, then obviously they'd have to incorporate more, most likely things that have been put out already)


Yeah, I'm sure that they're just gonna release another Sorrow :lol::no:


>dont see where the fuck you saw the word sorrow in my post. -Hecto




Ok, but Sorrow was on the platnium list and you said the exact plat item list so by inference....






Originally posted by Ardwen
Why not? Almost noone who owns Sorrow actually uses it, its an amazing item sure but its also a death trap most of the time.


Ardwen

Also There was originally intended to be a twin anyway.



Mechanically I'm not very enamored by it but I think it's earned a place in the mindspace of GS players and I'd hate to see a duplicate.

[Edited on 11-15-2005 by Drew]

[hectomaner]

<<Ok, but Sorrow was on the platnium list and you said the exact plat item list so by inference.... >>

touche. yeah i dont remember all that was on the list, and failed to remember that sorrow was released in that auction. so yes, you are correct.

i should rephrase it to 'almost exact copy of the plat auction, minus the item/items that may have been released at that time in plat that already exist in prime, in a unique way'

[Ardwen]

That would be about 20-40 items Hecto, theres really very few items that arent originally from prime on that list and most of those are tickets.


Ardwen

Editted because apparently I cant spell

[Edited on 11-15-2005 by Ardwen]

[Jay]

I find it immensely funny that I am being called a bitch for a post about selling Promise tickets by a guy who one topic over is selling characters.

Heeeeee-larious.

[Kitsun]

Someone refresh my memory again, what the heck are brutality tickets?

[Bobmuhthol]

There's a huge difference between overpriced tickets that can not be purchased and characters that are endless in supply and permanent. Sry.

[Skirmisher]

Originally posted by Bobmuhthol
There's a huge difference between overpriced tickets that can not be purchased and characters that are endless in supply and permanent. Sry.

Again...True.

[hectomaner]

yeah bob beat me to it

[Jay]

I don't know if Khaladon ever ran his Brutality game in Prime.

Basically a Brutality ticket wins you in a spot in a grab bag game with a total of 10 participants usually. The first person to go picks one of ten different colored bag worn on Khal's NPC. He gets the bag, looks inside and without saying a single word about what he's gotten or manipulating it in any way, he decides whether to keep the first bag or pass it to the next person in line. If he keeps it, thats his win for the present time and he keeps it in the bag until the game is finished. If he passes the bag, he picks another bag off the NPC and whatever is inside that second bag is his win. Play then passes to the next person.

So basically each person has a look at two items and winds up with one with the potential to screw your neighbor by passing them trash. After each player has a bag, then the can trade sight unseen, or pull their items out revealing their win and trade then.

I think its pretty stupid to waste a auction token on a blind item but Khal seems to love this game.

[Jay]

I think the difference is you're only miffed you were not getting a cut of some potential action.

Yeah there is another huge difference. Character sales are ten times worse.

[Jay]

I bet you guys beat each other all the time.

[Bobmuhthol]

I think the difference is that I don't care about either practice, pro or con, and couldn't give a fuck less about Foehn's Promise. In the future, try not to tell me what I'm "miffed" about unless you get a fucking brain.

Honestly, I don't care what you do, just don't tell me how *I* feel about something.

[Skirmisher]

Originally posted by Jay
I bet you guys beat each other all the time.

Please specify who is meant by "you guys".

Thanks.

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by Jay
Character sales are ten times worse. So RL money having IG effects is fine and dandy, but selling a character OH GOD WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?? I see.

edit: You guys is clearly Hecto and Bob. A hectosexual reference? I think so.

[Edited on 11-15-2005 by Latrinsorm]

[Bobmuhthol]

I'm near-positive he's referring to Hectomaner and me.

Insinuation of homosexuality in a derogative manner, etc., etc.

[hectomaner]

<<Please specify who is meant by "you guys".>>

i think jay is referring to the homosexual acts that bob and myself obviously engage in all the time.

sorry jay, i draw the line at hectosexual, and only if by mistake. no homosexual action with bob here, sorry to dissapoint you and your fantasies.

[hectomaner]

i just wanted to express my hatred for Lat in the 'hectosexual' reference. thank you. have a nice day (everyone except lat, who i hope falls down a set of stairs or something)

[Skirmisher]

Jay, if that is correct, for one who attempts to be so above it all that is a rather childish level to stoop to.

[Jay]

Childish on the Player' Corner?

Heavens forfend!

[SpunGirl]

Originally posted by Jay
Childish on the Player' Corner?

Heavens forfend!

wtf is forfend?

-K

[Edited on 11-15-2005 by SpunGirl]

[Skirmisher]

Originally posted by Jay
Childish on the Player' Corner?

Heavens forfend!

I thought TRL said you were some master instigator.

I guess you are just another wannabe.

[Bobmuhthol]

<<wtf is forfend?>>

To forbid, except it's not used in English anymore. It's basically some guy saying, "I'm a fucking idiot so BE AMAZED BY MY WORD SKILLZ!"

To which I say, "I'd still like you to fuck off, Jay."

[Jay]

God FORBID (better?) that a player of a TEXT-based game in a medieval setting may know a phrase of two that might actually have been used during that time period.

Unless of course you are suggesting that l33t is actually dwarvish?

[Drew]

This thread just gets dumber.

[Bobmuhthol]

Why did you emphasize text? You're supposed to know more about the time period because it's a text-based game as opposed to a graphical or live game?

Do you say, "Heavens forfend" to your co-workers? If the answer is no, you shouldn't have said it here.

[Skirmisher]

Originally posted by Jay
God FORBID (better?) that a player of a TEXT-based game in a medieval setting may know a phrase of two that might actually have been used during that time period.

Unless of course you are suggesting that l33t is actually dwarvish?

Yeah, thats what I thought.

Wannabe.

Maybe you are a really nice guy in person but you are just being an ass here today and losing your arguments and badly at that.

[Warriorbird]

Jay, nice? I don't have any particular qualms with his actions here (other than the selling cash and items is okay but character's isn't notion, which is just hypocritical) but I don't think I'd call him nice.

[SpunGirl]

Originally posted by Bobmuhthol
Why did you emphasize text? You're supposed to know more about the time period because it's a text-based game as opposed to a graphical or live game?

Do you say, "Heavens forfend" to your co-workers? If the answer is no, you shouldn't have said it here.

BUT BOB, maybe he posts in character! You know, like how Jazuela has sex in-character.

-K

[Sean of the Thread]

Hehe that made me snicker.

[Ilvane]

So good that they changed that..

I'm glad people don't get to make money off of this..Simu is getting enough..hehe.

-A

[Edited on 11-15-2005 by Ilvane]

[FinisWolf]

Originally posted by Drew
This thread just gets dumber.

ditto

Finis

[FinisWolf]

Ok, who has an account they are renting that has a ticket to Fhoens? :lol: O the pain, o the pleasure ... what would be their measure?

Finis

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by Ilvane
I'm glad people don't get to make money off of thisPeople are still going to make money off of this. $75 is equivalent to about 5 mil in silvers. A cursory examination of the Plat list (while not the same as what Prime [haha, I mean Premium] will have) reveals a number of items worth many times that.

Frankly I don't know why Simu even bothered to disallow ticket transfers. Not even Jay-esque logic can make tickets to a guaranteed item different from actual items.