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[Soulpieced]

1040 Discussions - Song of Focus. · on 11/2/2005 2:18:25 AM 1139


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The following spell proposal is what we currently plan on to fill the 1040 slot. The numbers aren't necessary final, but are fairly realistic for what the spellsong has to offer.


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(1040) Song of Focus:

Base cost: 40 mana.
Renewal cost: 30 mana.

While the Bard is singing this spellsong, he garners a couple of benefits:

1. Reduced mana cost for the Bard and his entire party, as dictated by the following chart:

Normal Mana Cost Mana Reduction
1-5 No reduction
5-10 1 mana
11-20 2 mana
21-30 3 mana
31+ 4 mana

2. When the Bard has been stunned or made immobile, he receives a base 25% chance to renew all songs, trainable up to another +13% with ranks of Mental Lore, Manipulation (seed 1 on the summation scale). In the event that all songs are not renewed in this manner, each individual song in the Bard's medley will have a 50% chance of renewal.

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I'll be keeping a watch on the folder for your constructive feedback on the proposal.

Thanks to GM Ryam for the premise behind the spell.

-M.

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No, this is not a joke. Yes, that is quite possibly the worst spell proposal I've ever seen.

[StrayRogue]

For a 40th level spell, that is a piece of shit.

[Snapp]

That's seriously a horrible idea. :thumbsdown:

[Sean of the Thread]

wow crappor

[Revon1]

I like the idea of being able to renew your songs while stunned or immobile but not as a spell. Something like this should be a guild skill with different ranks and such.

[Soulpieced]

The primary function of the song was even quoted as the "renewing while stunned" portion, NOT the mana reduction. A level 40 bard probably has a renewal over 6 minutes.... what the fuck are the odds of that happening, and you're probably going to die ANYWAY if you're stunned in such a situation long enough for your songs to drop.

[Soulpieced]

Direct GM Quote:

"The primary benefit for the singer of the spell is the stun-renewal. The net increase in mana cost is for that ability."

[Revon1]

Originally posted by Soulpieced
A level 40 bard probably has a renewal over 6 minutes.... what the fuck are the odds of that happening, and you're probably going to die ANYWAY if you're stunned in such a situation long enough for your songs to drop.

Renewing while stunned has happened to me plenty of times and most of the time I have died because I lost my weapon and armor. The idea of renewing while stunned is a very good idea but that idea for 1040 just blows.

[Soulpieced]

Are the people running 1009, 1012, and 1014 going to be able to cast a level 40 spell at 30 mana per renew? Think for a minute here. I even had problems running all 3 at 100.

[StrayRogue]

I suppose it's something that people are actually gonna use though. It's not like 1025 which is completely ignored by most normal people. My bard though will use 1040 however just because it can. I agree it could be ALOT better in concept and execution.

[ElanthianSiren]

Am I reading it correctly as that if you're in a bard's group, and you're spelling up or attacking, it costs you 90% of the mana basically for high level spells?

-M

edit correction, I did read it wrong.

[Edited on Wed, November nd, 2005 by ElanthianSiren]

[StrayRogue]

I'm reading it that if you cast a spell while joined to a bard that costs 31 or more mana, you will get 4 of that mana back.

[ElanthianSiren]

Originally posted by StrayRogue
I'm reading it that if you cast a spell while joined to a bard that costs 31 or more mana, you will get 4 of that mana back.

Right, that's what I realized it meant too. That doesn't seem so bad, except that very few classes have mana issues anymore due to harness training and likely not at that level.

-M
gsiv pwnd creativity.

[TheRoseLady]

Do what the wizards did, start posting your suggestions for improvement. My bard is not old enough to even think about this spell, so I really have zero ideas.

[Edited on 11-3-2005 by TheRoseLady]

[Soulpieced]

Save 2 mana on spells level 5 and below, and I would consider it useful. 3 mana for lullabye and 2 for purification song. Though I'm sure that would be considered "overpowered".

[Sylph]

Originally posted by StrayRogue
For a 40th level spell, that is a piece of shit.


Even less useful than Paladin's 40th level spell.... Pathetic.

[The Ponzzz]

Only Semis have mana problems in the mid level range.

A bard with that up grouped with a paladin could do some damage.

[Makkah]

I'll say here what I said in the bard folder... I like the idea, but it's underwhelming as fuck.

Throw in some TD or some phantom bard spell ranks and up the chance to renew while stunned and we're talking.

[Amaron]

OK we have been throwing out spell ideas for months in the bard folder and this is what they come up with?

I like it as a lower spell at lower the cost...

Or as a (gasp!!! I am going to say it) Guild! make the damn guild worth belonging too...

J

[Things2Come]

They should make 1030 your 1040 spell...

[Danical]

Bards aren't gonna get TD.

We won't get any benefits from it until game balance dictates it.

This lvl 40 spell will most assuredly suck ass because we're already mechanically where the designers want us.

The only thing I want is a static increase to TD and Maneuver defense - both of which aren't going to happen.

[Ylena]

Wow.

All this time and that's the piece of crap going in the slot? After all the interesting and useful ideas people posted for years?

Nothing's changed since I quit a year ago, has it. Damn.

[Soulpieced]

Like I said, I would consider this song fairly usable if it decreased the LOWER level spells (songs only?) by 1 or 2. Being able to use 1005 or 1030 at a decreased mana cost per cast basis would be considerate.