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HouseofElves
10-11-2005, 08:50 PM
If I was some tough hard core military person, I would not go around hugging and licking all of my friends. Nor would I sit in public and make goo-goo faces at my girl.

Honestly, how often do you guys meet up with your friends at the movies and give them hugs?

Why is there this mentality in the game where you have to be SO OVERTLY touchy and affectionate for your character to be considered *nice* or *friendly*? Just because someone doesn't molest you on sight doesn't mean they can't be open and pleasant.

Where did this thought process come from?

Jolena
10-11-2005, 08:52 PM
hrmm..what exactly inspired this? :chuckle:

HouseofElves
10-11-2005, 08:54 PM
I'm sure you know. Merchant events. They seem to just be a big GROPE fest.

Other in game events as well. It just is beyond me why people think this is being just to their character's friendliness to have to coddle everyone they know.

[Edited on 10-12-2005 by HouseofElves]

The Ponzzz
10-11-2005, 08:57 PM
I wonder the same things sometimes...

And why does everyone take offense in the game to a glance...

You type GLANCE (PERSON) and you can easily start an uproar...

Satira
10-11-2005, 08:59 PM
I glance at people all the time, and I know what you're talking about. It really pisses people off.

I'll admit Satira is pretty touchy feely, but then again so am I.

Jolena
10-11-2005, 08:59 PM
I think for me, it used to be that I considered a glance to be someone giving you 'the look' but I've since changed my stance on it.


As to the whole fondling each other. I dunno. Jolena and Stun are affectionate but not to the point of being gross I don't think. At least I never hear complaints. As to other folks, Jolena likes to hug those she is close friends with. And normally she kisses their cheek. People she doesn't know too well she curtsies or nods to instead.

4a6c1
10-11-2005, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by HouseofElves
Just because someone doesn't molest you on sight doesn't mean they can't be open and pleasant.


:(

So...I'm doing it wrong then? I thought I had 'open and pleasant' down. MAN.

Czeska
10-11-2005, 09:05 PM
When I went to Simucon years ago, everyone was STILL hugging people they'd never met. And that's before getting shitfaced. All I could think was, "So these are the people I hate in TSC"

HouseofElves
10-11-2005, 09:06 PM
I didn't make this for people to come here and defend themselves. It just bugs me that people try to play these tough fighter types but feel the need to hump all over any character that enters the room that they have highlighted.

Moreso, I'm interested in *WHY* what makes it in character for your lady, your lord, your master at arms, your captain of the guard character to do this? What is the mentality behind it and why is it the norm of what describes a friendly person in GS?

Jolena
10-11-2005, 09:07 PM
Hrmm..dunno how to answer that one. My girls aren't the stiff military types. I've no perspective on it. I know Stun is more the stiff military type but he's pretty stand-offish. In fact, he's down right quiet. :chuckle: Makes Jo insane sometimes.

Viridian
10-11-2005, 09:07 PM
Hadya is only affectionate with those she knows, her close friend Laakshmi gets a smooch. otherwise its usually hugs, even with her love interest she doesn't resort to overt displays of affection.

Nor do my Erithi or my Elves....of course I think this is due to my own views of PDA.

Nilandia
10-11-2005, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by Jolena
Makes Jo insane sometimes.
So THAT'S what it is...

Nilandia

Jolena
10-11-2005, 09:12 PM
:lol: :fu: Nilandia--------> :club: <------------Me!

Asha
10-11-2005, 09:13 PM
My character was so harsh to one merchant that he got an RPA but not an alter.
On my end I was like ''Argh, how can I get the alter without being nice?''.
It pissed me off, but at the same time I was happy I'd not done exactly what you're talking of.
But shit, I'd have had some silvers to spend right now if I'd have caved in and been all nice.

Jayvn
10-11-2005, 09:31 PM
People think i'm antisocial psycho when I work and don't talk to coworkers for weeks on end, but I hug my friends when I see em all the time.

Fallen
10-11-2005, 10:03 PM
It seems the standard method of greeting others in GS is close, intimate contact. People will often give their friends of opposite gender lingering kisses. To me, that verb always signified "Making out".

People don't put much thought into the real life equivalent of hugging everyone that walks into the room. It is used much in the way a handshake or wave. What's worse, race and culture is seldom taken into account. Seeing a giant sucking face with some halfling has more than once sent Evarin sprinting from the Dais.

Czeska
10-11-2005, 10:26 PM
I don't consider a lingering kiss to be making out, but it is far more intimate than a smooch.

Axhinde
10-11-2005, 10:32 PM
Czeska's all about the companionable grin.

Czeska
10-11-2005, 10:34 PM
:makes violent stabbing motions:

Alfster
10-11-2005, 11:08 PM
Alfue's way of saying hello to his male friends usually is a kick, punch, or a prod.

Females however, depends on whether he wants to be in their pants or not.

In both cases, stealing is involved.

Axhinde
10-11-2005, 11:25 PM
I bullrush. "Because rhinocerus fucking charge your ass!"

Chelle
10-11-2005, 11:41 PM
I think *some* people are overly touchy, feely in game for the need to feel acceptance. It's like, lookie I am friends with lots of people so watch me hug all of them now.

AbnInfamy
10-11-2005, 11:58 PM
I feel pretty much the same way about the huggy-kissy crap, but you know what bugs me even more? The infinite bowing and curtsying.

Look at the significance behind the bow in what is considered renaissance culture, I'm not gonna show a deep sign of respect to someone for doing the equivalent of slapping lettuce on my McDonald's hamburger.

I refuse to bow, unless they develop true gemstone royalty.

And hugging my legless, stuttering, bleeding empath is for sure a no-go.

Chaddy
10-12-2005, 12:16 AM
The saluting does it for me. Bowing pisses me off too most the time. Though I can understand when almost everyone that's gotten their title lately has been wearing it where the bowing would come into play.

Artha
10-12-2005, 12:42 AM
I think people are overly affectionate in game because something is lost in text which equates a hug to a handshake. The personal involvement is the same, whether you're typing hug <person> or wave <person> and so the meaning is the same. The personal involvement just isn't there.

Viridian
10-12-2005, 01:02 AM
Originally posted by Chaddy
The saluting does it for me. Bowing pisses me off too most the time. Though I can understand when almost everyone that's gotten their title lately has been wearing it where the bowing would come into play.

My Erithi always bow, it's just common greeting for them, they bow to show respect.

My elves curtsy when it is neccsary.

Otherwise, I think bowing or curtsying to someone is better than groping and rubbing up on them.

B2
10-12-2005, 01:42 AM
What I hate is...

Annoying whispers, "I can't hug you."

Annoying whispers, "Why can't I hug you?"

Annoying whispers, "Befriend me! Befriend me!"

Annoying whispers, "BEFRIEND ME!"

Annoying whispers, "Why won't you befriend me?>??? I thought we were friends!!!"

(Annoying grabs Milque up in a HUGE HUG AND SQUEEZES HER UNTIL SHE POPS!!!)


....no! If I'm set to reserved, the best you're getting is neutral! No licking my girls' faces or snuggling or smooching or hugging or bleh!

Get offa me!

Nilandia
10-12-2005, 01:59 AM
Originally posted by B2
What I hate is...

Annoying whispers, "I can't hug you."

Annoying whispers, "Why can't I hug you?"

Annoying whispers, "Befriend me! Befriend me!"

Annoying whispers, "BEFRIEND ME!"

Annoying whispers, "Why won't you befriend me?>??? I thought we were friends!!!"

(Annoying grabs Milque up in a HUGE HUG AND SQUEEZES HER UNTIL SHE POPS!!!)


....no! If I'm set to reserved, the best you're getting is neutral! No licking my girls' faces or snuggling or smooching or hugging or bleh!

Get offa me!
:weird:

Gotta love Bone Shatter in those situations.

"Oops, no arms. Guess you can't hug me anymore."

Nilandia

HouseofElves
10-12-2005, 03:20 AM
Yeah right. Like your empath would do anything like that.

Anyways, I'm glad to see the hate is not just something I harbor deep into my soul.

</3

Leetahkin
10-12-2005, 03:24 AM
Originally posted by Alfster
Alfue's way of saying hello to his male friends usually is a kick, punch, or a prod.

Females however, depends on whether he wants to be in their pants or not.

In both cases, stealing is involved.

:whistle:

Ent's huggy, I guess, hugging hi to her close friends. Though she doesn't like a total stranger coming up to her and hugging her or smooching her.

She's become a bit reserved now she's engaged, and doesn't bite friends as often. Sticks with pinching or something.
:shrug:

[Edited on 10-12-2005 by Nobody Cares]

Tisket
10-12-2005, 04:28 AM
:grouphug:

Kainen
10-12-2005, 06:17 AM
Originally posted by B2
What I hate is...

Annoying whispers, "I can't hug you."

Annoying whispers, "Why can't I hug you?"

Annoying whispers, "Befriend me! Befriend me!"

Annoying whispers, "BEFRIEND ME!"

Annoying whispers, "Why won't you befriend me?>??? I thought we were friends!!!"

(Annoying grabs Milque up in a HUGE HUG AND SQUEEZES HER UNTIL SHE POPS!!!)


....no! If I'm set to reserved, the best you're getting is neutral! No licking my girls' faces or snuggling or smooching or hugging or bleh!

Get offa me!

I feel for you. I finally changed my demeanor to cold so I would not have to cast at the people that hugged my sorcerer for being nice enough to cast guards.

Asha
10-12-2005, 06:21 AM
Since I changed my to cold my life has been so much easier.
Just remember to put those you care about on your befriend list.
I forgot this and had to run after them, after they'd told me they tried to hug but I wouldn't let them.
I had no clue they'd tried.

Kainen
10-12-2005, 06:30 AM
But that damned list only goes to 35 :(

Winged Serpent
11-14-2005, 10:47 AM
Ah, I believe the hug as a greeting is left over from the old ice age days, back then, we all hugged when we greeted each other, weren't a lot of other ways to greet friends back then. Course, personally, I don't mind it, as My mage , even tho Luukosian, is quite open and warm and jovial and friendly and playful... for the most part... at least to His friends. You want to be cold and standoffish? Cool, ok by me. Course, I'll be that way to you, when I see your corpse on the ground too. You don't want to be touched? You can set it so you can't be, other empaths besides my wife can't touch me, or clerics for that matter.
You can be as specific as you want about who does or doesn't touch you. Truthfully I find any of you who so vehemently attack others who are touchy/feely, a little sad. You don't like them doing it? Don't associate with them. You don't have to interact with anyone you don't chose too, and complaining about how someone else plays their character is rediculous, as you would probably go off the deep end if they told you how to play yours.

You might try playing your own character and letting others worry about how they play thiers. Could work ya know.

[Edited on 11-14-2005 by Winged Serpent]

Terminator X
11-14-2005, 10:52 AM
Signs of affection, eh HouseofElves? Well for starters, it probably works in complete congruence to my being one fiendishly horny mothafucka'.

Secondly, women are a perplexing species which require the constant rubbing and groping five-fold and hence than that which would be manifested in real life, lest the text-based poon will be lost to the janitor. And let me tell you, there is nothing worse than having your text-based p00n4ni!!!11one lost irreplaceably to that greasy son of a bitch. Perish the thought.

- The Termite

Skeeter
11-14-2005, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by Axhinde
I bullrush. "Because rhinocerus fucking charge your ass!"

Holy shit that's funny.

they don't play games either!

Skeeter
11-14-2005, 10:57 AM
I prefer the armless chest bump to actual hugging.

Gigantuous
11-14-2005, 06:06 PM
Eh.....I see Amerith hugging/smooching/whatthehellever ALL the time.

Irony or hypocrisy (sp? fuck I'm tired and now leaving for work)

Sean of the Thread
11-14-2005, 06:11 PM
Originally posted by Winged Serpent
Truthfully I find any of you who so vehemently attack others who are touchy/feely, a little sad. You don't like them doing it? Don't associate with them. You don't have to interact with anyone you don't chose too, and complaining about how someone else plays their character is rediculous, as you would probably go off the deep end if they told you how to play yours.

You might try playing your own character and letting others worry about how they play thiers. Could work ya know.

[Edited on 11-14-2005 by Winged Serpent]

I think you're a fuking idiot for telling someone so how to play their character. I also think you're a fucking idiot for telling others they don't have the right to complain about a game enviroment that they pay for or any other thing they want to complain about.

I also think you're a fucking idiot period.

[Edited on 11-14-2005 by Xyelin]

DCSL
11-14-2005, 06:16 PM
I seriously dislike it when COMPLETELY UNKNOWN people hug my characters. Why would they do that? It makes no sense. When I go through the line at the grocery store, the cashier doesn't hug me, and it feels stupid and weird when the locksmith does/tries to in the East Tower.

Shari
11-15-2005, 12:04 AM
Yeah, what Dex said.

Jesae I think is rather well-known, and especially at merchant events people feel the need to suddenly hug and/or attempt to act like her best friend.

She DOES come off as a very friendly, uppity person. But this is usually for her FRIENDS. I've set her demeanor to reserved to try and fix this, but it still happens. In fact, I even had issues when at Ebons of total strangers, or even people Jesae didn't consider friends attempting to hug her. WTF.

I dunno, people are weird.

DCSL
11-15-2005, 12:10 AM
Originally posted by Jesae
In fact, I even had issues when at Ebons of total strangers, or even people Jesae didn't consider friends attempting to hug her. WTF.

I dunno, people are weird.


Ha ha, yeah! Didn't Dessedemona hug Jesae!?

Hips
11-15-2005, 12:13 AM
That's the kind of thing that warrants a good ol' scrub with brillo afterwards. :weird:

Kainen
11-15-2005, 12:15 AM
I like to keep my typical greeting to a 'greet <person>' that way you acknowedge them without them slobering on you. I get whispers all the time from people who I see once in a while about my demenor (XXXX whispers, "I see that I still can't hug you." I whisper, "sorry, nothin personal.") Between pleasing them, and making sure I don't get banned from a town because the lil shitheads there can't keep their hands to themselves.. I take being cold anyday.

Shari
11-15-2005, 12:18 AM
Originally posted by DCSL

Originally posted by Jesae
In fact, I even had issues when at Ebons of total strangers, or even people Jesae didn't consider friends attempting to hug her. WTF.

I dunno, people are weird.


Ha ha, yeah! Didn't Dessedemona hug Jesae!?

You had to mention the specifics of it, didn't you...just HAAAAAAAD to rub it in.

h8 u

Nilandia
11-15-2005, 01:11 PM
I get hugged sometimes, most often when I heal or help someone. My own tactic is to bow when they hug and hope they get the idea. If they can't, no big deal. There are other people.

Nilandia

Gigantuous
11-15-2005, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by Jesae

Originally posted by DCSL

Originally posted by Jesae
In fact, I even had issues when at Ebons of total strangers, or even people Jesae didn't consider friends attempting to hug her. WTF.

I dunno, people are weird.


Ha ha, yeah! Didn't Dessedemona hug Jesae!?

You had to mention the specifics of it, didn't you...just HAAAAAAAD to rub it in.

h8 u

At least she didn't start off her IG interactions with you calling you "Gigaboo" and smooching you....

Drew
11-15-2005, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by HouseofElves
Honestly, how often do you guys meet up with your friends at the movies and give them hugs?


Well, IRL at least in my social group you hug when you meet up with girls, handshake guys and then again when you leave. Also depending on the social situation you might hug when being introduced to them.


That said, my character acts nothing like that in game. I might have hugged one or two characters, but it's certainly not a standard thing.

[Edited on 11-15-2005 by Drew]

StrayRogue
11-15-2005, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by Satira
I glance at people all the time, and I know what you're talking about. It really pisses people off.

I'll admit Satira is pretty touchy feely, but then again so am I.

I can confirm this :D

But yeah it's stupid. I find that the majority of people who do it are the kinds of people who RP themselves or don't even attempt to RP at all.