CMAN Headbutt

[aestrium]

Anyone use this CMAN on a regular basis? I'm considering picking up 3 or 4 ranks since it is so cheap and seems like it could be an effective tactic to keep casters from getting off dangerous CS spells I can never hope to ward.

I'm wondering if it will be redundant once I get WTRICK Feint from the guild. However, I've previously experienced situations where I've feinted a caster only to have it get the spell off unexpectedly or before I could get a good stun on it (which won't be often with a lance).

Also, my warrior is Elven so I'm not sure if stature will be a common problem. Any advice?

[Latrinsorm]

Headbutt is very good and is not inferior to Feint. As an Elf, you'll be able to headbutt tons of stuff (inborn Elven nanciness notwithstanding).

The one problem is that to get the most out of it you'll be wanting to wear head armor, which will bump any armor penalties you have to slightly less than the full armor's of that Armor Group.

I'd say go for it and don't use a helm while you're working up through plate.

[The Ponzzz]

My dwarf uses it on everything

[Danical]

Say you had a spike flaring helm . . . would it be possible for it to flare and hit the eyes?

I guess more specifically - what parts of the head does cman headbutt target. Just the head or the eyes as well?

Mario - could you post about 10-15 shots of you using headbutt? Is there an outcome threshold that achieves specific effects like feint?

kthx in advance.

[El Burro]

I remember it being that you could only headbutt a critters head. So a dwarf would be even more limited due to their shortcomings.

The skill absolutely kicked ass when it caused crit deaths. Now it's more eh since it just knocks critters out (sleep).

Feint is better for me.

[Danical]

sleep as in puts them prone or just dazed standing. . . ?

does it happen to stance force at all?

how much stamina does it use at rank 5?

[Danical]

Here's a follow question that is kinda unrelated - when a creature is on the ground how much of it's E/B/P is negated?

I ask because I've seen mobs that I leg lose more than 50 DS - usually 70-80. I figure it's due from loss of e/b/p but I suppose it could be substantial life loss that is doing the additional DS reduction.

[ElanthianSiren]

I want CMAN bitchslap. I'd use that on my warrior.

A paingrip CMAN to the throat or face that keeps them from casting.

Headbutt is dumb as it assigns stigma IMO.

-M

[Showal]

<<A paingrip CMAN to the throat or face that keeps them from casting. >>

This is a fantastic idea.

[Latrinsorm]

What would be super awesome was if they made Coup de Grace-esque messaging.

You reach towards a vesperti's face, flexing your fingers ominously!
[Roll result: 209 (open d100: 94) Bonus: 25]
... 20 points of damage!
You catch hold of a vesperti's face and squeeze, crushing the orbital bone!
A vesperti howls in pain as the remains of its eye leak out of your clenched fist!
The vesperti is stunned!
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>
A vesperti whimpers softly as you mangle its face mercilessly.
>stop facecrush
You release a vesperti, which crumples to the ground in agony.
>

[Warriorbird]

Dwarves can headbutt stuff in the gut.

:chuckles:

[ElanthianSiren]

Originally posted by Latrinsorm
What would be super awesome was if they made Coup de Grace-esque messaging.

You reach towards a vesperti's face, flexing your fingers ominously!
[Roll result: 209 (open d100: 94) Bonus: 25]
... 20 points of damage!
You catch hold of a vesperti's face and squeeze, crushing the orbital bone!
A vesperti howls in pain as the remains of its eye leak out of your clenched fist!
The vesperti is stunned!
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>
A vesperti whimpers softly as you mangle its face mercilessly.
>stop facecrush
You release a vesperti, which crumples to the ground in agony.
>

In some mad, megalomaniacal way, that just made me completely hot.

-M

Edited to add: It looks awesome. Latrin should go apply to work at SIMU :)

[Edited on Tue, October th, 2005 by ElanthianSiren]

[Latrinsorm]

:heart:

I'm looking for a job in St. Louis in a few years too. It would be pretty cool to work for Simu and finally find answers to all the stuff that's been bugging me.

[Kenn]

From a PVP aspect, it's damned good. cman headbutt caster, pull caster, cman headbut caster.

I think on success is only gives a rank 1 wound. But stacked, it gives rank 2. Bye bye casting and hello hinderence to hiding.

[The Ponzzz]

Not that I been ignoring this, I been trying to get good enough data to post.

I should have some once my warrior gets a few more levels. But it's looking like alot of random effects...

[Aaysia]

Originally posted by Latrinsorm
What would be super awesome was if they made Coup de Grace-esque messaging.

You reach towards a vesperti's face, flexing your fingers ominously!
[Roll result: 209 (open d100: 94) Bonus: 25]
... 20 points of damage!
You catch hold of a vesperti's face and squeeze, crushing the orbital bone!
A vesperti howls in pain as the remains of its eye leak out of your clenched fist!
The vesperti is stunned!
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>
A vesperti whimpers softly as you mangle its face mercilessly.
>stop facecrush
You release a vesperti, which crumples to the ground in agony.
>

:wow:

I would be all over something like this if it were implemented.

[Skirmisher]

See Latrinsorm, you went and got Aaysia all hot and bothered.
:tumble:

[Latrinsorm]

:S

I'm very pleased. :)