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Solkern
10-07-2003, 01:18 PM
I just went to Klaives forum..and it's like EXACTLY like this one!!
He's even copying some of our threads...WTF is up with that
If your going to make a forum, least do it on your own, and not copy off someone else. I thought it was real cute!

[Edited on 10-7-2003 by Solkern]

Betheny
10-07-2003, 01:23 PM
no, the PC copies him

so says him, and he's always right you know.

Solkern
10-07-2003, 01:34 PM
LOL yes!

Camri
10-07-2003, 01:40 PM
I wasn't suprised that it was the same, because I knew Caels helped him make them.

But if you look at the content in that place, you can definitley tell you're not in PC anymore.

There's no debate, not much actual conversation. Just a lot of flaming, and off the wall stuff.

I think I'll pass.

Xcalibur
10-07-2003, 01:47 PM
Got 2 threads just on me
He even edit my post!

Klaive's forum is good, if you're like bob or him

Solkern
10-07-2003, 01:48 PM
ALl i'm saying is this!!

Camri
10-07-2003, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by Solkern
ALl i'm saying is this!!

Ok, that's cute. But did you notice they use a lot of pictures over there? :yes:

peam
10-07-2003, 02:28 PM
My opinion on the whole ordeal:

:o:smilegrin::grin::duh::P;):barf::thumbsup::moon: :flamed::o:yawn::saint::rolleyes::?::sniffle::wow: :yes::barf::bounce::no::lol::(:wow::wow::D

/hopes someone gets it.

Tsa`ah
10-07-2003, 02:29 PM
But he likes you Peamer! :O

Trinitis
10-07-2003, 02:30 PM
....

I don't get it :(

-Adredrin

Camri
10-07-2003, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by LordAdredrin
....

I don't get it :(

-Adredrin

I think it means he doesn't care. :D

peam
10-07-2003, 02:38 PM
The joke kind of takes in account the statement that images are used every other post. My big thing is the smiley face factor. 5000 smileys a post drives me up the wall.

I could care less about the existence of his forums. There are millions of other forums I don't read. Why fret over one more?

Camri
10-07-2003, 02:42 PM
It's a good place to poke around in when you're getting bored with PC though.

That place makes you appreciate the brief periods of boredom here.

peam
10-07-2003, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by Camri
It's a good place to poke around in when you're getting bored with PC though.


That's what porn's for.

Wezas
10-07-2003, 02:55 PM
Originally posted by Xcalibur
Got 2 threads just on me
He even edit my post!


Yeah, in my second trip to the site since registering I saw an entire thread devoted to reasons for hating you. And it seems Klaive has too much time on his hands, because he came up with > 50, quite a few making no sense.

draconis nematoda
10-07-2003, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by Camri

Originally posted by Solkern
ALl i'm saying is this!!

Ok, that's cute. But did you notice they use a lot of pictures over there? :yes:

It's because half of them can't read well, and they spell fo neh tick ly.

Ray

Halfsilver
10-07-2003, 04:00 PM
Klaive's site is great.

Everyone there treats me 100x better than anyone ever did here.

=P

[Edited on 2-4-2004 by Halfsilver]

Xcalibur
10-07-2003, 04:22 PM
I'm important enough to have like 150 reasons why i sux

In all my life i never had that many reasons!

Scott
10-07-2003, 06:03 PM
The forums are the exact design because they are both XMB message boards. It's the same design is very useful and has good customer support, which is why it's such a popular forum.

Klaives forums are unmoderated really. It's for people who like spam, who enjoy talks about nothing, and for people who just want to say "Fuck you" without a point. It's not for most people here which is why nobody goes to Klaives site. PC, the-spot, Klaives forums.... they are the same design because that's what people want, so why not use it?

I think someone can come up with message boards and become a popular unofficial GS forum with the same design, but differently run and handled, PC did it. Klaive's site isn't for people who post here, neither is the-spot which is why they both seem to be dead and PC continues to have many posts. Anyone can run message boards that can compete with these boards if they have the idea's that interest people to go there and talk. Klaive's forums are just PC Anarachy, and that just doesn't work for most of the people here.

What I hate seeing is people posting the same shit on Klaive's Forums that they got from here or vice versa. Instead of posting the same stuff, post a link to the opposite forums as that is where the idea originated. I personally feel Klaive's rant should have been addressed differently. It should I have said something like "I found Klaive's rant rather funny, check it out" then listed the URL. If Klaive's forums ever become more popular, I really hope we don't see that crap. As they are two seperate boards, keep them that way. Link the address so people can discuss it where the idea/post originated. I don't think anyone wants to see the stealing of ideas......

Skirmisher
10-07-2003, 06:08 PM
Wait, Klaive has ideas?

Scott
10-07-2003, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by Skirmisher
Wait, Klaive has ideas?

No, that is why his forums only have like 10 people.

Weedmage Princess
10-08-2003, 01:06 AM
I'd like to say it really disgusts me to have the mention of that place in my folder *shrieks* BUT...I'll deal. See, we're unlike some others who claim they welcome people voicing your opinions and ideas even if they aren't in agreement with the forum leader and/or moderator--THEN turn into major league hypocrites and change the content of your posts, your avatars and other stuff.

Finally....


Originally posted by Gemstone101
... If Klaive's forums ever become more popular,...

Don't worry...it won't. It's amusing at first...but gets old quick. Even the flames and insults are second rate. It's all corny.

It's a waste of time and money...there's only like one person there who seems like he actually wants to make it a place where you can get some useful information...I'm sure he'll be ran out of there soon enough. I don't think logic or anything of use is welcomed there.

Betheny
10-08-2003, 01:12 AM
klaive deletes posts that flame him. I read this post earlier, and he deleted it.

Incidentally it was in a thread about me, where they photoshopped some pictures of me. I'm going to kill myself now. If now = in 500 years.

Session Start (AIM - MaimBeth:Kiki T Ramirez): Tue Oct 07 22:51:06 2003
Kiki T Ramirez: Re:Maimara thread
Kiki T Ramirez: Yeah...So I can tell this thread has died out.

What about Klaive? What have the 20 pollsters to say about that jerk off?

Here goes:

1) Klaive is a bitch
2) Klaive ought to be playing a different game
3) Darien is a fool
4) I like Darien!!!!11!
5) Klaive was cooler when someone else played hm

Discuss amongst yourselves...
MaimBeth: LOL
Session Close (Kiki T Ramirez): Tue Oct 07 23:08:09 2003

Weedmage Princess
10-08-2003, 01:21 AM
They've sank to photoshopping pics of people?
*laughs* Yeah...they're doing great.

Does he still have the truly daft there calling him "God" or whatever?

Betheny
10-08-2003, 01:27 AM
Here you go.

In all my ape glory.

Haha.

Skirmisher
10-08-2003, 01:28 AM
Koko!

Betheny
10-08-2003, 01:28 AM
Here's one from our lovely, if a little hypocritical, Kniquee.

Notsosweet
10-08-2003, 01:38 AM
Originally posted by Maimara
Here's one from our lovely, if a little hypocritical, Kniquee.

I did NOT post that .. Where do you get off saying i did ...look back my dear that wasnt me

Weedmage Princess
10-08-2003, 01:38 AM
Kniquee...as in...Notsosweet...did that?

Betheny
10-08-2003, 01:41 AM
Like it even matters if you did or not. It says, now, that Klaive posted it. However, I think that's a crock of shit and has been changed, but I can't verify that right now.

Notsosweet
10-08-2003, 01:46 AM
Originally posted by Maimara
Like it even matters if you did or not. It says, now, that Klaive posted it. However, I think that's a crock of shit and has been changed, but I can't verify that right now.

You know Maimara .. i think you just got worked up over something .. It wasnt me .. yes i may have laughed at it .. But it wasnt me that posted it ...verify your butt off i dont care.. I dont even have a photo shop not like it matters you just want to get people upset at me .. Well do whatever you want to do i really dont care .. If it was me i would admit it.. But anyway.. Stop draging stuff over here from the other boards.

Betheny
10-08-2003, 01:49 AM
Pot, kettle, black? Ring a bell?

I didn't bring this here. Someone else did, for one. For another, that particular thread was started BECAUSE I post here.

I consider the matter dropped, because the fact is I really don't care. I just find it amusing that someone has time enough in their lives to fake other pictures, and that those particular forums give people the right to post them.

That ought to violate some law, posting pictures of people without their express permission.

Notsosweet
10-08-2003, 01:53 AM
You may not be the one that started the thread .. But you sure did go over there and get a pic and bring it over here. Hmm If it didnt matter to you who posted it then why blame me ? It wasnt I who posted it .. And the thread wasnt started because you post here.. Dont give yourself that much credit.. But anyway Im done with you .. You annoy me.

Betheny
10-08-2003, 01:53 AM
Then stop talking to me, and about me.

Notsosweet
10-08-2003, 02:03 AM
Originally posted by Weedmage Princess
Kniquee...as in...Notsosweet...did that?

No i did not

Raeyanii
10-08-2003, 02:06 AM
Oh Jesus, Joseph, and that biatch Mary... So Klaive made a forum.. wah wah wah. To each their own is how I thought it out to be. If he wants to copy, fine, let him copy. At least you know it's not origional content. There's not much you can do about it except stop going to the Stoners Realm. *shruggs*

As for Kniquee posting that pic. She did, she didnt, whatevaaaaa... Kniquee's not gonna deny something she did. I give her that much respect. I'm sorry Klaive made a post about you Maimara but suck it up, be the bigger person. Let it roll off ya shouldassss, ya dig? If you dont feed into it, there will be no drama. I've come to realize this. You should too girl...

Betheny
10-08-2003, 02:08 AM
Originally posted by Maimara
I consider the matter dropped, because the fact is I really don't care. I just find it amusing that someone has time enough in their lives to fake other pictures, and that those particular forums give people the right to post them.

Raeyanii
10-08-2003, 02:10 AM
Well there ya go.... NEEEEXT!

Drakam-GS
10-08-2003, 02:15 AM
I've seen that topic on Klaive's forum a couple days ago and I never saw a picture come up that Kniquee posted. Klaive was the one doing the postings of the pics. All Kniquee did was laugh at the pics. Stop acusing her for things she hasn't done. And if you are, make sure to begin with that she actually did it.

Betheny
10-08-2003, 02:17 AM
Do I have to re-quote myself?

Raeyanii
10-08-2003, 02:19 AM
No, that won't be needed, thank you Maimara. Make room for others with problems... *looks at the line*

Ben
10-08-2003, 03:21 AM
I post on Klaives board sometimes and I don't suck up to anyone. Not all threads are the same and I don't know if you guys are obsessed with Klaive or just trying to suck up on P.C but who really cares. Klaives forum is more a joke around spot for people who play gemstone and this one is more info related, most people are members of both and frankly, who cares.

Raeyanii
10-08-2003, 03:22 AM
Can I get an Ameeeeen up in hurrrrr *smacks lips*

Back
10-08-2003, 03:52 AM
Don't go there. You'll catch a virus.

Souzy
10-08-2003, 03:54 AM
Rae kills me! I luff you!

But I have to agree with Ben on this matter. Two seperate forums, two different aspects. Some threads are the same as here...so what? Either the topics was copied from here or vice versa. I don't get why people are jumping on Klaive's back for creating a forum. So he made one, so what? There are hundreds of forums out there, so why care about one more? I'll commend anyone who puts their time into making one.

As far as Kniquee supposively posting up Maimara's pic. Kniquee never had a picture of her and she wouldn't waste her time putting her face on a monkey. And if she looked carefully, she would've realized it was not Kniquee who posted that pic, instead of jumping on Kniquee about it. I would feel honored if someone saved a pic of mine on their computer, then took their time to cut and paste my head on something. Then again no one should post someone's picture without consent. Ahhh well, what's done is done. Life goes on, we can't win 'em all. Suck it up and move on. That is all. :D

Edited just because I type too damn fast.

[Edited on 10-8-2003 by Lalana]

Weedmage Princess
10-08-2003, 05:06 AM
Alright guys...this is done.

If you want to defend Notsosweet, say she did it, whatever...take it to U2U's, or elsewhere...but not here. If you're gonna post, keep it on topic or don't bother. Thanks.

StrayRogue
10-08-2003, 08:00 AM
I've read them abit. Considering I post more in a single day than all his members put together...says something. A bunch of self-righteous crap, basically filled with moaners moaning about the moaners who moan about them. There is little to no mechanical advice, no people who actually know a fuck about the game beyond abuse and whinging, and little to no reason for my continued reading there. Beyond the cool graphics, that is.

Soulpieced
10-08-2003, 08:52 AM
<------ Soulpieced has more game mechs knowledge about Gemstone in his ring finger than everyone on Klaive's board has in total.

(Yes, I've even played a level 80+ sorcerer, so I most likely know more about sorcerers than him too).... at least until GSIV rolls out.

Tendarian
10-08-2003, 09:08 AM
I somehow doubt most people are members of both. I would never sign up for that board. If most people were members of both i would think that the place would have a ton of posts like this place if anything intresting was happening there. I think if Xcalibur stopped posting there the place would die a slow death like the-spot.

Xcalibur
10-08-2003, 10:33 AM
I shall do so, soon, :lol:

it won't die

it will be 8 mods posting regulary and 2-3 posters

the-spot is really dead, and they wanted it that way, so no need to pity them

[Edited on 8-10-03 by Xcalibur]

Edaarin
10-08-2003, 11:11 AM
Bottom line here: don't visit that site if it bothers you. I don't, frankly I don't give two shits about what anyone there posts about me. The truth of the matter is, these are two forums for two different purpose. Here is to vent on in game matters, or ask for game mechanics info, there from what I've heard is him and his circle of friends, and that's fine by me.

What I'm getting sick of is all the accusations shooting back and forth between the two boards. He accuses Kranar of stealing his format, we accuse him of leeching off of Caels. He accuses us of not having a life and hating on his boards, we accuse him of trolling on our boards with fake names and what not. I have limited knowledge of what's fact and what's fiction with the accusations. What I do know is the traced IP addresses for those accounts, and that's why I drew the conclusion that I did with More Lean and Banned.

The PC is just another source of fun for me, I don't want it to turn into something that gets me all riled up, so I try to ignore anything that remotely does so. I've lost my cool on one or two occasions, and I stand by those because each time someone really crossed the line between proper and just looking for trouble. I don't know how many of you feel me on this, but henceforth I'm ignoring any threads concerning board wars or ugly accusations, unless it happens to fall in folders that I'm responsible for.

My two cents.
/rant

CrystalTears
10-08-2003, 11:38 AM
Amen! :thumbsup:

Tsa`ah
10-08-2003, 02:21 PM
That's what token Asian guys named Ed are for!

Well said.

AkMan
10-08-2003, 02:28 PM
Well said Edaarin. I also have viewed the other forums as a guest, and just have one thing to say. I've notice Klaive totally changes peoples posts AND profiles if they flame him. That is truly lame.

HarmNone
10-08-2003, 07:22 PM
Who cares what happens on those boards? Who cares what they do over there? If they are enjoying themselves, more power to them. They cannot damage anyone here.

I joined Stoner's Realm long enough to create a post wishing Klaive well with his new boards. That done, I have no business there. I consider this my home, and this is where I come to post. :)

HarmNone does not know why we are discussing it

Solkern
10-08-2003, 11:52 PM
I was looking on klaives forum...So far who i saw posting was, the mods, xcalibur and tijay...NO one else...heh

Tsa`ah
10-09-2003, 12:04 AM
Again, who really cares?

It's painfully obvious that no matter who posts over there, it has to be Klaive approved or it's edited and the member banned. That's not the advertised anarchy, it's not even close.

They will continue to flame us here no matter what. Why bother?

It's irritating yes. At times I'm more than half tempted to edit/delete posts made by them on these boards, but what exactly is that going to accomplish? Spamming of mindless content? Give them more ammo to use in the never-ending bitch/flame fest?

Let it drop, let them rot, it's not worth the energy.

AkMan
10-09-2003, 03:41 AM
Originally posted by Tsa`ah
Again, who really cares?

It's painfully obvious that no matter who posts over there, it has to be Klaive approved or it's edited and the member banned. That's not the advertised anarchy, it's not even close.

They will continue to flame us here no matter what. Why bother?

It's irritating yes. At times I'm more than half tempted to edit/delete posts made by them on these boards, but what exactly is that going to accomplish? Spamming of mindless content? Give them more ammo to use in the never-ending bitch/flame fest?

Let it drop, let them rot, it's not worth the energy.

Amen. As a visitor, I've seen posts that 'changed' 10 minutes after I first read them. The posts went from anti-Klaive, to something very childish like 'I'm stupid I don't know what I'm talking about' (edited on xx-xx-xxxx by Klaive The Eternal God). Usually along with the 'edited' post is a title that is demeaning to the poster; and usually an avator further flaming said poster.

That being said, I think it's very, very sad that an admin would have to resort to editing posts, changing titles and replacing avators because they didn't like what a poster had to say.

Nice 'anarchy boards' there.

StrayRogue
10-09-2003, 04:15 AM
Have you read the TOS? He says he welcomes flames. Ha.

GS4Gurl
10-27-2003, 04:48 PM
If someone like Klaive flames you then you know you are doing something right. If he agreed with you alot, then I'd worry. :lol:

Wezas
10-29-2003, 08:13 PM
A cry for help?

Don't think we'll be seeing an E-mail from Kranar anytime soon like this.



I am quite pleased with the way the forums have grown as of late, and for
helping in that, I would like to thank you.

However, in the past week, daily post counts have dropped and I believe it has
been due to the simultanious absenses of three different posters who started a
great deal of topics on these boards.

They have returned, but have very little to post about as few posts have been
made. This would obviously fix itself in time, when something of interest
happens, but I have recieved a few complaints regarding the number of daily
posts.

If you agree that there aren't enough, then do something about it! If every
person made one new thread a day, discussing anything from GemStone to Chinese Astrology, we'd hit record activity in no time.

If you don't want to do this, that's alright as well. But I do request that you suggest these boards to anyone who you encounter who does not know about them. You can simply tell them the web address: http://www.klaive.net/forums/

...or you can use the "Invite" form on the main topic list.

Thank you.

- Klaive, Stoners' Realm Space Hamster

Xcalibur
10-29-2003, 08:18 PM
I guess i'm part of the "3 persons" he was talking about.

But i didn't returned, hmm, weird

Betheny
10-29-2003, 08:51 PM
He could make a topic, 'Let's flame certain people to get posts up'. A shame it didn't work.

StrayRogue
10-30-2003, 08:20 AM
HAHAHAHA

Parkbandit
10-30-2003, 11:01 AM
Originally posted by Wezas
A cry for help?

Don't think we'll be seeing an E-mail from Kranar anytime soon like this.



As an administrator of a text based message board... could you not at least put a spell checker through your plea for help? simultanious absenses? recieved?

That board is nothing more than a part time joke by a full time jackass.

[Edited on 10-30-2003 by Parkbandit]

AkMan
10-30-2003, 02:44 PM
Heh. I'm sure Klaive would get alot more traffic if he didn't edit peoples posts, change titles and avators on people. But why post something when it could get changed to something you didn't say? I know I'll NEVER post there just for that reason.

StrayRogue
10-30-2003, 02:46 PM
Thats exactly why I don't post there. Plus the fact he himself breaks his TOS, then enforces it when he pleases. Plus I do not appreciate having my IM's altered. Fucking prick.

Xcalibur
10-30-2003, 02:50 PM
10 bucks his forum dies in less than 2 months, because even his hardcore posters don't post that much anymore

Now it's trully 12 moderators posting with 2 members (who are part of the 12 mods):lol:

Wezas
10-30-2003, 03:41 PM
How much does it cost him to run that board? Any ideas?

StrayRogue
10-30-2003, 03:44 PM
I'd guess more than here simply because it looks better and seemingly has no problem with massive pictures and his own compliment of avatars.

Xcalibur
10-30-2003, 03:49 PM
Caels said it costed him 20 bucks per month here.

I'd say about the same for him or so.

[Edited on 30-10-03 by Xcalibur]

Skirmisher
10-30-2003, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by StrayRogue
I'd guess more than here simply because it looks better and seemingly has no problem with massive pictures and his own compliment of avatars.

I may be incorrect, but his site always loads WAY slower than the PC if there are any photos on the page.

If he pays the same as here, then either he has his board all set up wrong, or his provider sucks.

CrystalTears
10-30-2003, 05:40 PM
I don't necessarily think it looks better. Just different. And I don't really like the incredible size of pictures they have as avatars and signatures. It's too much. You have to scroll down a lot just to see the handful of 1-2 word posts people put only because the entries are huge. I like our setup better, but then again I'm biased. <dimples>

Xcalibur
10-30-2003, 07:53 PM
The Symbol of Thought begins to burn in your mind and you hear Klaive thinking, "I'm single again, everyone. If you wish to stop by my thrak table, I am currently interviewing for mates."
>
The Symbol of Thought begins to burn in your mind and you hear Drethron thinking, "You might want to specify gender..."
>

From the master itself

Miss X
10-30-2003, 08:13 PM
omg thats funny, I'm tempted to send one of my girls for an interview! :lol:

[Edited on 31-10-03 by Miss X]

Caiylania
10-30-2003, 08:28 PM
For mates eh? Might know a few roltons that would wander his way...

AkMan
10-30-2003, 08:32 PM
Damn that's cruel. I can't sit here and let you flame ANY living species, I don't care what they did. Put yourself in their shoes? How would you like it? That rolton post just put me over the edge.

How DARE you wish that upon poor roltons?

Tsa`ah
10-31-2003, 09:46 AM
Wonder if we can get Edaarin drunk, slap some lipstick on him, and send him Klaive's way.

Xcalibur
10-31-2003, 09:56 AM
It's a cheap, ridiculous, and all those bad qualification to try to recruit new members into his forum

Parkbandit
10-31-2003, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by Tsa`ah
Wonder if we can get Edaarin drunk, slap some lipstick on him, and send him Klaive's way.

You're convinced Edaarin would have to be drunk?:duh:

HarmNone
10-31-2003, 10:56 AM
Originally posted by CrystalTears
I don't necessarily think it looks better. Just different. And I don't really like the incredible size of pictures they have as avatars and signatures. It's too much. You have to scroll down a lot just to see the handful of 1-2 word posts people put only because the entries are huge. I like our setup better, but then again I'm biased. <dimples>

Not biased. Discerning. :D

HarmNone appreciates taste