Sickness

[Xcalibur]

I'm very sick. You don't say it in english but i'll try to explain it..

There's 2 kind of cold

The normal "weak" one, that only female get

The hard-very-hurting one, that only male get.

I have the male one, and i'm about to pass out (in french, it's a well known expression to say "a man's cold)

So seriously, beside sleeping well, drinking well, having a lot of Vit C (natural if possible) and resting, what else could be done?

Fell free to whine about other sickness too!:lol:

[CrystalTears]

I feel bad that you're sick but...

Two kinds of cold? Normal "weak" one for females? Is this a typical male thing to say to justify acting like a dying mule when they're sick? This is a new one on me. Females have weak colds and men have hard ones.

Oh man now I've heard everything. :lol:

[DCSL]

Originally posted by CrystalTears
I feel bad that you're sick but...

Two kinds of cold? Normal "weak" one for females? Is this a typical male thing to say to justify acting like a dying mule when they're sick? This is a new one on me. Females have weak colds and men have hard ones.

Oh man now I've heard everything. :lol:

Men are funny, in the stupid kind of funny way.

[theotherjohn]

sounds to me like you have SARS

[GSLeloo]

I think everyone is sick. Half my school is and I have been since Monday (reason why I haven't been posting that much.)

My cold was really weird though. It went from me feeling like I was gonna throw up and having a sore throat, to being sneezing and a stuffy nose and then slowly it's moved into my chest into bronchitis. That's where I'm at now.

[CrystalTears]

But Leloo, that's a weak cold you have. You'll live. If you were male, though, you'd be dying. Now get up, go in the kitchen and get me some pie! :D

[Xcalibur]

hehehehehehhe

I thought it was worldwide, seems, we, males here, are really unlucky to get that kind of sickness

Leloo, i have almost all what you said, with a very hurting throat

it's the second cold i have in 7 days, damn friends

[Skirmisher]

When come back bring pie.

Heh. weak cold. Thats a good one alright.

Only men get "bad" colds.

You sure you want to stick with that answer Sparky?

[Vesi]

Originally posted by Xcalibur
I'm very sick. You don't say it in english but i'll try to explain it..

There's 2 kind of cold

The normal "weak" one, that only female get

The hard-very-hurting one, that only male get.

I have the male one, and i'm about to pass out (in french, it's a well known expression to say "a man's cold)

So seriously, beside sleeping well, drinking well, having a lot of Vit C (natural if possible) and resting, what else could be done?

Fell free to whine about other sickness too!:lol:

Sorry you're sick... don't usually wish that on anyone.

Man's cold? <snickers> My husband and I can have the exact same symptoms, but guess who thinks they are sicker? Good thing men don't have to give birth... would be the end of civilization as we know it.

Vesi the WOMAN (thank goodness!)

P. S. Sorry you're sick too Leloo. Get well soon!

Edit to take out my advice. Figure if he's a MAN he can figure out a way to handle it himself.

[Edited on 10-6-2003 by Vesi]

[Weedmage Princess]

That has got to be the most idiotic thing I've ever heard...only females get the weak colds, and men get the bad colds.

I'll keep that in mind if/when I get my yearly "weak" cold...where I get the 102 degree fever, can't keep anything down and can't move anything on my body.

[Artha]

You guys only scoff because you get the weaker colds. If you had to deal with the same symptoms we do, you wouldn't doubt.

[StrayRogue]

Any they complain about child-birth as well! The gall!! We men are all just silent strugglers...

;) *runs for his life*

[Back]

Sure it isn't a masculine feminine tense lost in the translation? Or I think he meant they were two different colds -everyone- gets. A strong one and a weaker one.

[Halfsilver]

Was about to post the same thing, Backlash.

French applies a gender to pretty much every word, right?

I think ya'll misunderstood X.

Originally posted by CrystalTears
But Leloo, that's a weak cold you have. You'll live. If you were male, though, you'd be dying. Now get up, go in the kitchen and get me some pie! :D

how about brownies instead? ::ducks the frying pan that was just thrown at him::

[Xcalibur]

It's just a french expression to laugh at men, and that expression is used even now as a part of excuse

girl1: Man, you didn't even came to our appointement!

sick guy: sorry, had a man's cold

I think men are very able to tolerate external pain (cut, broken bone) but are very weak with internal

[Tsa`ah]

Child birth... feh.

Grow some testicles and let me kick them.

When I get sick, I just want to be left alone. If it's really bad, I'm crankier than normal and the wife exiles me to the office/guest bedroom. Everyone is happier.

[Back]

Originally posted by Xcalibur
It's just a french expression to laugh at men, and that expression is used even now as a part of excuse

girl1: Man, you didn't even came to our appointement!

sick guy: sorry, had a man's cold

I think men are very able to tolerate external pain (cut, broken bone) but are very weak with internal

Actually, women's pain threshold is higher than mens. It has to be for the reason Tsa'ah mentioned.

Originally posted by Backlash
[quote]

Actually, women's pain threshold is higher than mens. It has to be for the reason Tsa'ah mentioned.

That is a bunch of politically correct crap

[peam]

Originally posted by The Edine

Originally posted by Backlash
[quote]

Actually, women's pain threshold is higher than mens. It has to be for the reason Tsa'ah mentioned.

That is a bunch of politically correct crap

I concur. I'd love to see the scientific research on that one. A man, as far as I know, has never given birth to a child, so those comparisons are useless.

[Betheny]

imagine shitting a honeydew melon.

[Tsa`ah]

Eewww.

I'm well aware of the analogies, but I am at a loss trying to make one for a nut shot.

[Betheny]

I doubt getting kicked in the nuts is any worse, or consistently painful, as menstrual cramps :)

[Adhara]

I'll try to explain the regional expression Xcalibur is talking about.

As some of you mentioned, the feminine pain threshold is higher than the male one. When men have a cold or the flu, they whine and complain like "dying mules" (thanks CT great analogy) while most women just shrug it off and go on with their everyday task. After all, some of us have monthly pain that's much worse than any cold or flu. But anyway. So women started teasing men by saying "wow to hear you whine, one would think it's not a cold you have but something much worse!" Some smartass man must have someday answered that yes it was much worse, it was a man's cold. The expression has been used since then to mock whiny sick men.

Xcalibur does not really think a man's cold is worse. Both men and women know it's the exact same thing except for the men not being able to handle pain as well as women.

[Xcalibur]

Ever feel half of your body paralyzed by pain?

menstrual cramps are no where as painful

Adhara: :saint:

[Edited on 6-10-03 by Xcalibur]

[Adhara]

Me: has had colds, flu and menstrual cramps

You: has had colds and flu

Me: able to compare

You: not

;)

[Tsa`ah]

Want my arthritis or herniated cervical disk?

[Xcalibur]

Originally posted by Adhara
Me: has had colds, flu and menstrual cramps

You: has had colds and flu

Me: able to compare

You: not

;)

me has nuts

you not

on that i'm sure every man that got a good kick in the nuts can swear it's the most painful thing you could have.

well i agree on the giving birth part though, that sounds the most painful thing in the world

[Edited on 6-10-03 by Xcalibur]

[CrystalTears]

Bah, so didn't want to see this end up into a discussion about who can tolerate pain better. They just tolerate pain differently. Men have the ball pain, women have childbirth, and I'm sure no one wants to experience the other unless tortured and mutilated.

Although I will say that nothing pissed me off more than to hear my exhusband yell at me to put the clean clothes away when I arrive home early from work with a fever of 102, but when he's sick I have to nurse him to health so as not to render his children fatherless. Pulease.

[Back]

Originally posted by peam

Originally posted by The Edine

Originally posted by Backlash
[quote]

Actually, women's pain threshold is higher than mens. It has to be for the reason Tsa'ah mentioned.

That is a bunch of politically correct crap

I concur. I'd love to see the scientific research on that one. A man, as far as I know, has never given birth to a child, so those comparisons are useless.

Its out there somewhere. I thought it was a commonly known fact.

mmm Try tearing your ACL and PCL tendons playing soccer... it wasn't amusing watching everything below the joint move completely independently of the rest of my leg in the ambulance. I think i have one uped any cramps on that one

[CrystalTears]

It's a commonly known fact that a man has never given birth to a child, yes. :D

[Xcalibur]

women got little "ball-pleasure" argument to compensate :lol:

I just wish my damn cold would get away :mad:

what is a commonly known fact is often an urban rumor

[peam]

Beat me to it, Edine.

I always thought it was an urban legend too.

[Weedmage Princess]

It's a never ending argument because just as a woman will never know what it feels like to take a shot to the testes, a man will never know what it's like to have a baby...

Unless some odd shit happens...

I do have a kind of analogy for childbirth...this is my personal experience...and it does vary from woman to woman...but...remember that scene in Braveheart at the end when they have Mel Gibson on that rack thing and they're pulling out his guts and stuff and he's yelling Freedom? That's...the closest thing I can think of.

ahh but allas many women grab the doc by the tie and pull him close and in a deep manly voice say "give me drugs" so they dont have to feel that ::grins::

[Tsa`ah]

Originally posted by The Edine
mmm Try tearing your ACL and PCL tendons playing soccer... it wasn't amusing watching everything below the joint move completely independently of the rest of my leg in the ambulance. I think i have one uped any cramps on that one

Common occurrence. I would be impressed if you played on it.

Experiencing pain and dealing with pain are two different things. I've been kicked in the nads and dropped into a fetal position within milliseconds. I've blown out knees and continued to play on the injury (mega stupid).

Menstrual cramps, repetitious injury, childbirth, and non-crippling injury. These are types of pain you deal with like it or not.

You deal with sharp, gut wrenching pains as well, but usually while whimpering in a fetal position.

I don’t think you grasp the severity of what I am saying. When one tears the ACL and PCL, you can not physically walk let alone stand (except on one foot), there is nothing holding the top of your leg to the bottom except the skin (blood vessels and the like excluded)…. No chance of being able to continue to play after that… only after surgery, rehab, and a year and a half of wearing a brace will make you close to normal again.... shock soon will follow ::grins::


just read your post again scracth the not knowing what your talking about thing i missed that but it gets my point across

[Edited on 10-6-2003 by The Edine]

[Back]

I guess I was full of shit. Here is an article.

Here... (http://www.partnersagainstpain.com/html/pat_care/pat_care.htm?pg=6350&section=pat_care)

Maybe what I learned was outdated.

[Edited on 10-6-2003 by Backlash]

its all do to the feminist movment ::ducks im going to get killed here soon i think

[GSLeloo]

I think it's not a factor of male or female, it just goes person by person. Some women are very strong, go through child birth without drugs, deal with menstrual pains without ever complaining and just take it. Others collapse.

Just like some men take pain. my father broke his foot and went to work the next day (climbing ladders, painting houses) and he also once fell off of a ladder, onto a ladder, and had the ladder he was on then fall onto him (think of a ladder sandwich). He never went to the hospital just stood back up and went to work.

Some people tolerate pain, others don't. It's just who you are as a person.

[DCSL]

For me, it also depends on who I'm around. I've had someone drop a sixty pound riser on my foot and not say a word all day, all the while filling my sock and shoe with blood until I could barely peel my foot out when I got home. I was in a class where I was the only girl and I thought (and my teacher thought) I had to be as good as all the guys. So... not a sound.

But then, I slam my hand in the car door in front of my mother and I whine to kingdom come until she takes me to the emergancy room to have someone laser through the top of my nails (ow!) to let all the blood out from under them.

I feel secure enough to whine in front of my mother and my boyfriend and that's it. If there's someone else there, I'll pretend like absolutely nothing's wrong until I get alone or to one of them. I think it's that I trust them not to hold my pain against me, not to think I'm just a weak female because I admit it hurts.

[GSLeloo]

I do know what you mean. On my birthday party, I ripped my leg open, like a huge gash and needed stitches and in front of my friends I was fine. I even said, as my mother reminds me "Just give me a bandaid and let me finish my birthday party." But when they all left and I looked at it I started crying.

[Drew2]

I'd have to get out my notes to get the exact term, but that's a reaction from your body that shuts off pain sensors in the event of extreme injury. Your body basically says "Hey, I know we're injured, no point in whining about it, get it fixed then I'll let it hurt".

I wish I knew my psychology better. Oh well.

[Tsa`ah]

Endorphines. The body's natural opiate. More specifically beta-endorphines.

Normal production of beta-endorphines cause a sense of euphoria or joy. Studies show that during emitions of beta-endorphines while the adrenal gland is in over-drive, the sensations change to aggression while exhibiting a lack of concern for personal well being. Hence increased athletic performance (See Isiah Thomas vs the entire Lakers lineup).


Originally posted by The Edine
I don?t think you grasp the severity of what I am saying. When one tears the ACL and PCL, you can not physically walk let alone stand (except on one foot), there is nothing holding the top of your leg to the bottom except the skin (blood vessels and the like excluded)?. No chance of being able to continue to play after that? only after surgery, rehab, and a year and a half of wearing a brace will make you close to normal again.... shock soon will follow ::grins::


just read your post again scracth the not knowing what your talking about thing i missed that but it gets my point across

[Edited on 10-6-2003 by The Edine]

I'll over look that. In case you are wondering, I am a graduate, with honors, from the ISU School of liberal arts and science pre-med program. I also scored rather well on the MCAT.

A complete sever of both the Anterior and Posterior Crucial ligaments will not leave the leg in free swing. There are other groups you are neglecting. Primarily the Medial collateral ligament groupings and the anterior and posterior meniscofemoral ligaments.

You can stand, walk, run, and do just about anything with torn a torn ACL/PCL combo. If severed, you can stand and probably walk at a brisk pace. There is pain involved and the stress placed on the other ligament grouping will eventually lead to irreparable knee damage, baring complete reconstruction.

I have played football with torn ligaments, not severed. I've been through enough knee operations to know what I can and cannot do at this point in life. The built in weather radar is the only positive to arthritis.

That was an interesting article Backlash. It does lend credence to the argument that men can function with extreme pain to the extremities and external tissues, we just puss out over the internal pains, like that shooting pain that makes your eyes roll up into the back of your head that's associated with a swift kick to the low downs.

[HarmNone]

Ummm, you guys can avoid getting kicked in the nuts, you know. Your nuts were thoughtfully placed between your legs. Just keep your damned knees together! :D

Sorry you are sick, Xcalibur and Leloo. Hope you are both feeling better soon. Lotsa fluids, rest, Tylenol for fever and discomfort. That is about all one can do.

HarmNone

[Betheny]

Originally posted by Xcalibur
Ever feel half of your body paralyzed by pain?

menstrual cramps are no where as painful
[Edited on 6-10-03 by Xcalibur]

Yes, I have. And yes, they are.

Some women get them horribly. And I'm not talking "That kind of hurts." I'm talking about shooting, deep-seated throbbing knots of pain, like a ball of hurt with metal spikes jabbing you every once in a while.

it seems like the women are trying to make things bigger than they are.. I in my life have yet to see most women get injured and not break into tears on the spot and start freeking out.

[AnticorRifling]

I can hump farther than most women, carry more gear, lift more weight, etc etc but you get me sick and I turn into a 220 pound, war fighting, death dealing, highly trained, whiny little baby!

When I'm sick I want to be mothered and I want to be mothered now damnit :cool:

My wife is lucky because I don't get sick much. She takes sickness well and for the most part keeps on tickin just alittle whining.

I think it's the person (male or female) that determines how the pain of sickness/injury affects them. Doesn't matter if you're a guy or girl people just take pain differently and have different breaking points.

I can take physical pain like a champ all I did was cuss alot when I shattered the bones in my foot. When I got a real bad upper respitory infection I was whining like a gradeschooler with a skinned knee. It's all different for different people, stop with the pissing contest already.

My pain is worse than yours!

Nu uhhhh
Na huhhh
repeat

[Xcalibur]

Originally posted by HarmNone
Ummm, you guys can avoid getting kicked in the nuts, you know. Your nuts were thoughtfully placed between your legs. Just keep your damned knees together! :D

Sorry you are sick, Xcalibur and Leloo. Hope you are both feeling better soon. Lotsa fluids, rest, Tylenol for fever and discomfort. That is about all one can do.

HarmNone

Thanks, I think i'm better already.. just some infection if i "blow my nose". No more throat's hurt, no more headaches. Drank like 3 litres of water and pure orange juice. No medication though, i hate taking those, you tend to rely too much after.

Maimara: I had a girlfriend like you before, the first day of her each of her menstrual "cycle", she was good for the bed, cannot move, cannot work, cannot study, she was just in pain and freaking out..

I'm talking normaly, a normal guy that'll get a kick in the nuts will be in a fetal position as Tsa`ah said
It's impossible to fight, that kind of hurt that just paralyzed all your instinct, you drop prone and you just whine/suffer and wait it to pass. All you think is "it hurts so much it hurts so much.


A normal female that get menstrual cramp isn't numb.

I could even say menstrual cramps are easy to "comparate". Even eaten something really rot or poisoned without your knowledge? That kind of belly hurts is, i'm sure, close to those cramp.

[Edited on 6-10-03 by Xcalibur]

[Tsa`ah]

C'mere Boom Jr.... lemme kick ya!

[CrystalTears]

Yo guys, quit talking about menstrual cramps as though you've had them. For a long time, EVERY MONTH was me calling out from work at least once a month due to me being in a fetal position the entire day or two of the beginning of my cycle from the massive pain. It took a LONG time before my doctor found medication that worked for me.

Just as we don't know what you go through when you get kicked, you don't what we go through all the time.

[Halfsilver]

:lol:

Some of these posts are hysterical.

Thanks for the laughs this morning, guys.

-grays/d:smilegrin:

[Tendarian]

Here is the difference between cramps and getting kicked in the balls. Not all women have incredible pain from their monthly cramps. Getting kicked in the balls turns EVERY guy into a fetal position calling for mommy.

I am very glad now that i can tell my girlfriend that i have a mans cold now though. As im a big wuss when i get sick and now i have the excuse i need!

[Wezas]

Originally posted by AnticorRifling
I can hump farther than most women

Bwahahahahaha
(I'm done)

[Halfsilver]

It's not so much that we're wusses as it is the fact that we love it when our women take care of us.

Hopefully I'm not the only one who thinks this, but I just love it when my girlfriend says 'aww, you don't feel good? Let me take care of you, hunny. Here, lay down and put your feet up'

bwahaha. It's the only time we can ever get you girls to wait on us!

-grays/d

[Xcalibur]

Originally posted by Tendarian
Here is the difference between cramps and getting kicked in the balls. Not all women have incredible pain from their monthly cramps. Getting kicked in the balls turns EVERY guy into a fetal position calling for mommy.

I am very glad now that i can tell my girlfriend that i have a mans cold now though. As im a big wuss when i get sick and now i have the excuse i need!

we, men, are misunderstood. :lol:

[CrystalTears]

You don't get kicked in the balls every month!

If you do, then you need to work on your people skills.

[Tendarian]

Your right i dont. But i thought we were talking about pain severity. Anyway until you get some man cramps (had one in my foot the other day) you cant talk. You get the weaker women cramps of course.

[Weedmage Princess]

Originally posted by CrystalTears
Yo guys, quit talking about menstrual cramps as though you've had themJust as we don't know what you go through when you get kicked, you don't what we go through all the time.

*applauds*

That being said, if any of you men are interested and would like to experience what it might feel like to go through childbirth and menstral cramps, I'd be more than happy to assist in creating the experience for you. It'll just be a matter of your travel expenses and a document drawn up by my lawyer stating that I am not responsible for any short and/or long term injuries sustained :)

[Bestatte]

Imagine if you will, a sharp stabbing knife - serrated - resting idly waaaay up behind your penis. Not your balls, your penis. Inside your body, not where it sticks out.

Now, imagine that knife jerking back and forth, back and forth, every 2 seconds, for a period of 20 minutes. Slicing into the cavity of your genital system.

Now, imagine that slicing and tugging of the serrated knife occurring repeatedly over the course of an entire 12-hour period. With perhaps - five minutes rest between each 20-minute period of excruciating biting searing burning pain...

Oh and did I mention that the blade is smeared with acid, so it burns while it's tugging at your insides?

Add to that, the constant feeling of your bowels rolling around your body like jello...

That's -close- to what cramps feel like. Not quite, but pretty close.

And some of us go through it every single month, for the entire duration of our fertility - which is around 50 years.

[Tendarian]

Lol thats not what most women ive known go through at all. If it was you are right. Ive had a kidney stone and the one part i agree on is it does suck that the bad pain doesnt stop hurting after a few minutes.

[Tendarian]

I honestly think you two are exaggerating.

[Halfsilver]

Bleh.

Maybe you all are just exaggerating.

We (men) have no way to tell.

Maybe it's just a big conspiracy by women so that they have an excuse to yell and complain to us....we'll never know...

It's like...aliens might exist...but we have no way to tell...We've never seen them.

-grays/d (bracing for impact)

[Weedmage Princess]

The pain of menstral cramps is as much of an exaggeration as the pain of getting kicked repeatedly in the nuts by a donkey...full power. You decide. ;)

Edited to add that the pain associated with menstral cramps DO vary from woman to woman....personally, my experiences with menstral cramps aren't as severe as the previously described (THANK GOD) ....but for me, childbirth was excrutiating...and despite the claims some of you want to make, doctors aren't "quick" with the drugs and epidurals. I went--drug free--through 40 plus hours of EXCRUCIATING labor. It wasn't til say 3 hours of having my son that I got a drug (I forget the name, begins with a N) through IV, and about an hour and a half before I got an epidural. So yeah...days of feeling like my guts were being ripped out with a pair of pliers. Good times.

[Edited on 10-6-2003 by Weedmage Princess]

[Edaarin]

Holy god, that was disturbing Bestatte.

But, you don't want to know what it's like for guys to get tested for STDs. It's not something I want to do again, and it's the reason I avoid drunk hook ups.

If you've been watching Playmakers, its a lot like the scene where DH is trying to cheat his urine test, except the tube wasn't quite that thick.

now now we all know you cant know what its like to have a serated kinfe inside you coated with acid... so lets not talk about it like we know what that feels like ::grins and ducks::

[Notsosweet]

Originally posted by Tendarian
I honestly think you two are exaggerating.

Hmm well ..let me tell you this ..THEY are not kidding..I had cramps so bad that i would pas out .. I would start with a cold sweat and i would double over with pain and then BOOM i was out cold..I have had 3 children so TRUST this i know what pain is..

I dont think there is any diffrence in Men's cold's and women's colds ..Maybe you just think its worse because of your pain tolerance ? I mean If I am sick not only do i go to work and take care of my kids clean the house cook ..etc etc.. But if "daddy" is sick the whole world is ending...LMAO i tell him to SU and send him into the other room .. Oh "hold me " thats what he says ..Im like pleaaaase you are how old ? you have 2 legs get yourself asprin and SU!!! so i think its just that Men cant handle it like us Women can .

[Tendarian]

I think the pain you guys discuss is on the outter fringes (2%) of the normal pain with cramps. That is not normal. So by comparison i could say yeah well if i was hit in the nuts with a sledge hammer and my nuts were in my chest my pain would be worse.

I totally believe there is no difference in colds,i just found Xcaliburs joke hilarious and am going to use it now plenty (pity my girlfriend) He just happen to give me good ammo :)

[Halfsilver]

Right, so who's the smart one in this situation?

Who's getting their ass taken care of by their loving wives and girlfriends?

bwahahaha....

"oh hunny, i'm so sick...take care of me please"

too funny!

-grays/d:smilegrin:

[Edited on 10-6-2003 by Halfsilver]

[Tsa`ah]

I have little children. Nut shots are a weekly occurrence.

The only persistent internal pain I could associate with menstrual cramps would be the cramps related to severe constipation. Those that normally occurred around midterms and finals after drinking massive amounts of caffeine.

Don't for one second think that a man turns into a wuss when sick. My wife suffers from terrible cramps every cycle. Guess who babies her? The ball on the end of the chain doesn't get her heating pad, doesn't message her cramps out, doesn't do much of anything. In fact, I don't think she has purchased a single package of kotex since we've been together.

[DCSL]

Hm.. I have pain like that. I thought it was normal, but I guess not. I have pain so bad that normal painkillers do not work and I have to get them from the doctor. Luckily, the pain only lasts the first day (my poor mother's lasted for five and she would bleed for three weeks... she would have died of pure bloodloss if they hadn't removed her uterus.)

Let me put it more in perspective. Incapaciting pain, to the point where, if I don't take my medication in time, all I can do for the day is lay around curled up crying silently ('cause sobs make it hurt more, but I just can't keep the tears in.) And this will happen to me every month of my life until I'm about fifty or sixty... menopause happens late in my family.

It's math time! I started when I was ten. Let's say it stops when I'm fifty. That means that I will experience this... thing... FOUR HUNDRED AND EIGHTY TIMES in my life, at the very LEAST. How many times do you think you're likely to get kicked in the balls?

[Bestatte]

It depends on the woman. When I was on the pill, I didn't even know I was getting any period at all. Eventually it stopped completely, no cramps, no blood, no PMS, no nuttin. The only reason I knew I was "due" was because I ran out of the white pills and was on the pink ones.

Then I went off them, because I hit the magic number 35. And my entire youth spent drugged up on Darvon came back to me.

Except they don't give you darvon these days - I get vikoden instead :)

Finally though the migraines went away, around 2 years ago. But unfortunately they've been replaced over the past 3 months by vomiting and cold sweats.

Throughout, with the exception of the years I was on the pill, the pain.

An explanation - to help the guys. The pain of cramps is contractions. Real honest-to-goodness baby-pushing contractions. They're not as strong, because the muscles aren't pushing against a baby or anything else. They have room to contract, in other words. The contractions come to force the lining of the uturus out of the body, which is what menstruation is, in the first place. When you're pregnant, the lining thickens up and doesn't slough off. It's used to feed the embryo because it's filled with protein. If you're not pregnant, it gets replaced every 28 days or so, the same as hair and skin does.

But the pain -can- be just as excruciating in women who have damaged or narrow cervixes, such as mine. I had cervical cancer and had to have a good chunk of it removed, so the scar tissue acts as like a little mini-embryo.

So the cramps, for me, are as bad as a women who has a miscarriage. Thus the vikoden. Narcotics are the only thing to ease the pain, unless I can knock myself out with 10 mg of valium before the cramps get too noticeable. In either case, I can't function until the drugs wear off, so the day usually ends up wasted.

As for men handling pain, meh. Hubby was miserable when he got poison ivy. But when he has a cold, he sits there "being" sick - he's not bad at all, just a little grumpy.

[DCSL]

I'd like to add that my boyfriend does NOT baby me when my cramps escape. He has work and school and obligations and I won't let him miss them.

[Weedmage Princess]

My husband babies me when I get sick! I'm spoiled, I've always been babied when I got sick...I think I'd have a heart attack if he didn't *stare*

[Edited on 10-6-2003 by Weedmage Princess]

[Bestatte]

I'll add that my hubby is a saint, unless he's in the middle of watching a game on TV. When I have cramps, I have to go to bed and lay down waiting for the meds to kick in. Sometimes he'll hear me groaning - I try not to be loud but sometimes it just gets that bad. He'll come into the bedroom and sit behind me and just hold his hand on my belly, which seems to help. He has very warm hands :)

He also one day took off from work because he had a really bad cold. I went in on my shift at the supermarket, got to my cash register, and got sudden cold sweats and dizziness with a wave of horrendous cramps. I fell down to the ground - right as I was ringing up a customer. He came and picked me up and brought me home, even though I probably could've made it myself if I could just lay down for 20 minutes til that "five minute rest" came.

For better or for worse - and he's been my rock since the day we got married. Awesome guy. You should all have one like him.

[Tsa`ah]

Originally posted by DCSL
It's math time! I started when I was ten. Let's say it stops when I'm fifty. That means that I will experience this... thing... FOUR HUNDRED AND EIGHTY TIMES in my life, at the very LEAST. How many times do you think you're likely to get kicked in the balls?

I've been a father for 7 and a half years; you'll never catch up. My hopes are that within the next 7 years, when my youngest hits 12, the nut shots will stop.

And they are not intentional shots, I hope. These are the shots that come from spastic kids at play. The kind that like to rush dad when he's sprawled out and napping on the sofa. The kind that come from a stray swing of a bat, be it plastic or a small t-ball bat. The shots that come from an unsuspecting soccer ball.

I would say I get nailed probably twice a week. One grazing blow and one full on nuts in the throat blow. Perhaps there is some permanent damage and I won't have to go in for a vasectomy.

[Edited on 10-6-2003 by Tsa`ah]

[draconis nematoda]

Originally posted by Maimara
I doubt getting kicked in the nuts is any worse, or consistently painful, as menstrual cramps :)

Try arthritis.

[DCSL]

Yes, but arthritis can be contracted by both sexes.

[Halfsilver]

This thread should be renamed "GUILT TRIP" or "PITY PARTY"

-grays/d (hides)

[AnticorRifling]

You want pain?!

Get in-laws.

[Edaarin]

Arthritis, that's a good one. But not something most of us have to worry about till we're middle aged or past.

So tell us Tsa'ah, how do you deal with it?

<duck>

[CrystalTears]

Tsa'ah has pain alright. He uses ME. Nuff said. ::runs away::

[draconis nematoda]

Originally posted by Edaarin
Arthritis, that's a good one. But not something most of us have to worry about till we're middle aged or past.

So tell us Tsa'ah, how do you deal with it?

<duck>

Childern can have arthritis.

http://www.rheumatology.org/patients/factsheet/jra.html

[Tsa`ah]

I hate you both. :P

[Bestatte]

I'm in pain constantly. Degenerative disk disease will do that to a person. Then the once a month agony just to make things interesting.

But I'm also cute. So I win. Nya.

[Ravenstorm]

Kidney stones are said to be even more painful than giving birth. Or can be. Just a little bit of agony for both sexes to share.

Raven

[Geoff]

Originally posted by Tsa`ah

Originally posted by DCSL
It's math time! I started when I was ten. Let's say it stops when I'm fifty. That means that I will experience this... thing... FOUR HUNDRED AND EIGHTY TIMES in my life, at the very LEAST. How many times do you think you're likely to get kicked in the balls?

I've been a father for 7 and a half years; you'll never catch up. My hopes are that within the next 7 years, when my youngest hits 12, the nut shots will stop.

And they are not intentional shots, I hope. These are the shots that come from spastic kids at play. The kind that like to rush dad when he's sprawled out and napping on the sofa. The kind that come from a stray swing of a bat, be it plastic or a small t-ball bat. The shots that come from an unsuspecting soccer ball.

I would say I get nailed probably twice a week. One grazing blow and one full on nuts in the throat blow. Perhaps there is some permanent damage and I won't have to go in for a vasectomy.

[Edited on 10-6-2003 by Tsa`ah]
I agree. I have a 4 year old boy and I think if anything you're downplaying the numbers.
Nothing worse than getting 40 pounds of flying "mutant ninja fury" in the jewels for the second time in one day.

[Geoff]

Originally posted by Ravenstorm
Kidney stones are said to be even more painful than giving birth. Or can be. Just a little bit of agony for both sexes to share.

Raven
Yep, I've done a kidney stone, (wished I was dead at the time, my wife is available to elaborate.) I've also watched my wife give birth. I think there's a correlation that the women don't want to admit to. Enduring extreme pain is enduring extreme pain. At least the women had something positive to look forward to.
(I got to keep a small rock in a vial if that was what I wanted.)

[Xcalibur]

For the record, i'm still sick and that one is really hard

The Man's cold this year is really strong:lol:

[Xcalibur]

Yet, again, a damn men's cold.

There's like 10 guys missing at the job, heard it was an hard one this year.

Gotta hate the month of october and the 20 degrees that go to 3 degrees in a matter of hours.

BOOOOOOOOOH IT!

[xtc]

Xcalibur WTF is a man cold? Quebec is a different world.

[HarmNone]

Gah, xtc! Don't ask! :O

[SpunGirl]

See, this is why I live in Hick Nevada instead of freezing Canada.

-K

[Jorddyn]

Originally posted by Dave
it seems like the women are trying to make things bigger than they are.. I in my life have yet to see most women get injured and not break into tears on the spot and start freeking out.

I neither cried nor freaked out when I fell and broke my ankle in two places and my leg in one. So :P

I have, however, cried from cramps, for those of you wanting to make comparisons. In reality, though, I can only compare my pain to my other pain. I'll never know what anyone else's pain feels like. For all I know, your paper cut hurts more than my broken bone.

Jorddyn

[xtc]

In the plus column about Quebec are two major points.

A. Architecture, very European.

B. The women are incredible, they have the sensuality and allure that is unique to French women.