What is a well rolled bard?

[Chadj]

Anyone have tips on what a good bard would be? I already have a good idea on what im gonna be doing come time for GS4.. Anyone got any ideas on what a bard with good statistics would look like?

[AnticorRifling]

My bard is 4'2" and kills things with a dwarven chest-ripper. Fear the beared, sometimes drunk, rarely happy bard. He's only lvl 10 because I have this thing about letting my dwarf get to lvl 12-15 and trying something new but I think he's gonna stay a bard it's a fun profession for me thus far. I'll post his stuff in a bit and piggy back this thread for improvements. :cool:

[AnticorRifling]

Race: Dwarf Profession: Bard (not shown)
Gender: Male Age: 31 Expr: 156277 Level: 10
Currently Stat Bonus
Constitution (CO): 60 .... 20
Dexterity (DE): 66 .... 8
Discipline (DI): 68 .... 19
Logic (LO): 61 .... 10
Intelligence (IN): 62 .... 6
Strength (ST): 86 .... 28
Reflexes (RE): 68 .... 4
Charisma (CH): 55 .... -8
Wisdom (WI): 67 .... 8
Aura (AU): 88 .... 9
Mana: 24 Silver: 0

(at level 10), your skill bonuses and ranks are:
Skill Bonus Rank
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Armor Use : 54 [11]
Combat Maneuvers : 54 [11]
Polearm Weapons : 96 [22]
Climbing : 20 [4]
Multi-Opponent Combat : 5 [1]
Physical Training : 54 [11]
First Aid : 54 [11]
Trading : 54 [11]
Physical Training Points : 8
Mental Training Points : 3

Your spell lists:
Minor Elemental...7
Bard Circle.......4

I know the stats aren't the greatest but I just wanted a fast hunter and needed points to get the training I wanted. He hunts good but I could probably improve his stats and skill set with advice from someone that's had a bard for awhile IE SP or Makkah.

[Soulpieced]

I really don't think there is a standard now. I'll have to wait and see what changes and other bullshit Simu decides to throw at the profession before I decide what I'M gonna do, let alone give other people advice on something that doesn't exist yet.

[Wezas]

Not the best stats, but he does well.

Name: XXXXXXX Race: Giant Profession: Bard (shown as: Bard)
Gender: Male Age: 46 Expr: 366471 Level: 16
Currently Stat Bonus
Constitution (CO): 63 .... 16
Dexterity (DE): 59 .... -1
Discipline (DI): 78 .... 14
Logic (LO): 67 .... 8
Intelligence (IN): 55 .... -3
Strength (ST): 88 .... 34
Reflexes (RE): 80 .... 10
Charisma (CH): 66 .... 13
Wisdom (WI): 38 .... -6
Aura (AU): 100 .... 20

XXXXXX (at level 16), your skill bonuses and ranks are:
Skill Bonus Rank
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Armor Use : 78 [17]
Shield Use : 78 [17]
Combat Maneuvers : 78 [17]
Edged Weapons : 128 [34]
Climbing : 25 [5]
Swimming : 25 [5]
Multi-Opponent Combat : 25 [5]
Disarm Traps : 35 [7]
Perception : 35 [7]
Scroll Reading : 5 [1]
Mana Sharing : 40 [8]
Physical Training : 78 [17]
First Aid : 25 [5]

Your spell lists:
Minor Elemental...10
Bard Circle.......7

He picks well (could use a few more ranks of disarm), I went the minor elemental route to get Unlock, Disarm, & E-wave (which has helped my hunting quite a bit in emergencies).

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by AnticorRifling
My bard is 4'2" and kills things with a dwarven chest-ripper. Fear the beared, sometimes drunk, rarely happy bard. He's only lvl 10 because I have this thing about letting my dwarf get to lvl 12-15 and trying something new but I think he's gonna stay a bard it's a fun profession for me thus far. I'll post his stuff in a bit and piggy back this thread for improvements. :cool:

Heh. I had a little dwarven bard, as well. Many is the time I had people look at me and say: "A dwarven bard? Whatever were you thinking?" :lol:

HarmNone liked her little dwarf

[Chadj]

Well, when re-allocation came around, i re-did my bard so that he would be a great sword swinging and loresinging bard, but only as a temporary thing.. he is well rolled intill 40ish-70ish, at which time, his stuff will all break down for the most part.

Name: Chadj Veenhof' Race: Half-Elf Profession: Bard (shown as: Battlechanter)
Gender: Male Age: 41 Expr: 504663 Level: 20
Currently Stat Bonus
Constitution (CO): 60 .... 5
Dexterity (DE): 50 .... 5
Discipline (DI): 83 .... 11
Logic (LO): 63 .... 6
Intelligence (IN): 56 .... 3
Strength (ST): 96 .... 23
Reflexes (RE): 70 .... 20
Charisma (CH): 90 .... 25
Wisdom (WI): 48 .... -1
Aura (AU): 96 .... 23
Mana: 56 Silver: 1621

Chadj (at level 20), your skill bonuses and ranks are:
Skill Bonus Rank
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Armor Use : 93 [21]
Shield Use : 93 [21]
Combat Maneuvers : 93 [21]
Edged Weapons : 142 [42]
Perception : 15 [3]
Mana Sharing : 50 [10]
Ambush : 93 [21]
Physical Training : 93 [21]
Brawling : 35 [7]
Physical Training Points : 3

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Originally posted by Chadj
Anyone have tips on what a good bard would be? I already have a good idea on what im gonna be doing come time for GS4.. Anyone got any ideas on what a bard with good statistics would look like?

Since we are putting up stats, let me show you my pure picking GSIII bard.

Name: Picking Bard Race: Dark Elf Profession: Bard (shown as: Bard)
Gender: Male Age: 57 Expr: 1130289 Level: 32
Currently Stat Bonus
Constitution (CO): 51 .... -5
Dexterity (DE): 88 .... 29
Discipline (DI): 77 .... 3
Logic (LO): 93 .... 21
Intelligence (IN): 95 .... 27
Strength (ST): 72 .... 11
Reflexes (RE): 65 .... 12
Charisma (CH): 66 .... 3
Wisdom (WI): 77 .... 18
Aura (AU): 96 .... 33

Picking (at level 32), your skill bonuses and ranks are:
Skill Bonus Rank
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Armor Use : 126 [33]
Shield Use : 126 [33]
Edged Weapons : 148 [48]
Climbing : 82 [18]
Swimming : 25 [5]
Disarm Traps : 155 [55]
Pick Locks : 155 [55]
Perception : 126 [33]
Scroll Reading : 25 [5]
Magic Item Use : 45 [9]
Mana Sharing : 54 [11]
Physical Training : 58 [12]

Your spell lists:
Minor Elemental...20
Bard Circle.......13

Health: 58
Mana: 90

He can manage any box 15 and under. -80 scarabs and -210 locks. I wanted him to be mana heavy for purification, the lores, unlock/disarm if need be, and for magic item creation.

I have not even tried to pick all day, but two or three lvl 15 boxes gets him to fresh and clear.

Now if you want to talk about roles thats another thing altogether. This actually works for my dark-elf bard. More the prankster /trickster type than sonnet singer.

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Ok, now the GS IV TWC prototype.

Name: TWC Bard Race: Dark Elf Profession: Bard (shown as: Bard)
Gender: Male Age: 57 Expr: 1260811 Level: 33
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 83 (16) ... 83 (16)
Constitution (CON): 63 (1) ... 63 (1)
Dexterity (DEX): 76 (23) ... 76 (23)
Agility (AGI): 76 (18) ... 76 (18)
Discipline (DIS): 67 (-2) ... 67 (-2)
Aura (AUR): 91 (30) ... 91 (30)
Logic (LOG): 93 (21) ... 93 (21)
Intuition (INT): 86 (23) ... 86 (23)
Wisdom (WIS): 65 (12) ... 65 (12)
Influence (INF): 76 (8) ... 76 (8)
Mana: 70 Silver: 422

TWC (at level 33), your skill bonuses and ranks are:
Skill Name | Bonus Ranks Goals Time to Goal
Two Weapon Combat..................| 168 68 68
Armor Use..........................| 128 34 34
Combat Maneuvers...................| 128 34 34
Edged Weapons......................| 168 68 68
Physical Fitness...................| 105 25 25
Dodging............................| 128 34 34
Arcane Symbols.....................| 58 12 12
Magic Item Use.....................| 58 12 12
Harness Power......................| 105 25 25
Elemental Mana Control.............| 20 4 4
Mental Mana Control................| 20 4 4
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 5 1 1
Perception.........................| 58 12 12
Climbing...........................| 70 15 15
Swimming...........................| 70 15 15

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 14 14
Bard...............................| 20 20
Training Points: 33 Phy 31 Mnt

- Using all self cast spells. Elemental Def III and Song of Mirrors -

Offensive:
AS: 231 (both hands)
DS: 147

Defensive:
DS: 275

I'd swear he's parrying and evading about 95% of the swings from critters half his level.

[Edited on 10-5-2003 by Backlash]

[Ilvane]

Name: Little halfling! Race: Halfling Profession: Bard (shown as: Historian)
Gender: Female Age: 29 Expr: 62396 Level: 5
Currently Stat Bonus
Constitution (CO): 67 .... 18
Dexterity (DE): 71 .... 25
Discipline (DI): 60 .... 0
Logic (LO): 46 .... 3
Intelligence (IN): 51 .... 10
Strength (ST): 96 .... 3
Reflexes (RE): 67 .... 18
Charisma (CH): 45 .... -17
Wisdom (WI): 51 .... 0
Aura (AU): 100 .... 20


She's actually very good as a hunter. My human is even better.

Name: Race: Human Profession: Bard (shown as: Gleewoman)
Gender: Female Age: 41 Expr: 931812 Level: 28
Currently Stat Bonus
Constitution (CO): 64 .... 7
Dexterity (DE): 64 .... 7
Discipline (DI): 94 .... 22
Logic (LO): 64 .... 12
Intelligence (IN): 53 .... 6
Strength (ST): 94 .... 27
Reflexes (RE): 94 .... 22
Charisma (CH): 72 .... 11
Wisdom (WI): 48 .... -1
Aura (AU): 99 .... 24
Mana: 81

I don't really know if they are the standard, but I certainly tweaked a lot during reallocation, and will probably do so a few more times when I get to GS4.

All I know is my human is a great hunter right now, and hopefully will continue to be that way throughout..;)

-A

[Makkah]

Name: Maliku al-Amlak Race: Human Profession: Bard (shown as: Battlechanter)
Gender: Male Age: 26 Expr: 3202555 Level: 74
Currently Stat Bonus
Constitution (CO): 83 .... 16
Dexterity (DE): 100 .... 25
Discipline (DI): 100 .... 25
Logic (LO): 89 .... 24
Intelligence (IN): 60 .... 10
Strength (ST): 98 .... 29
Reflexes (RE): 100 .... 25
Charisma (CH): 88 .... 19
Wisdom (WI): 57 .... 3
Aura (AU): 100 .... 25
Mana: 217 Silver: 0
s>skill
Maliku (at level 74), your skill bonuses and ranks are:
Skill Bonus Rank
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Armor Use : 218 [118]
Shield Use : 136 [38]
Combat Maneuvers : 218 [118]
Polearm Weapons : 250 [150]
Climbing : 99 [23]
Swimming : 90 [20]
Perception : 90 [20]
Scroll Reading : 96 [22]
Mana Sharing : 82 [18]
Physical Training : 145 [45]
Trading : 169 [69]
Physical Training Points : 6
Mental Training Points : 4
s>spell

Your spell lists:
Minor Elemental...35
Bard Circle.......39
Use SPELL ALL to view detailed list of spells.


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[Soulpieced]

Beta version is up, so go test your ideas.

[Geoff]

This is a good place to ask this it looks like...
When I come back when GSIV goes live, one of the characters I was going to start on my reactivated account was a racist bard. I'd train him to 10-15 or so then use him to sing songs, probably in TSC, about what absolute garbage all the races he wasn't are. Assuming he'd die a lot (He will) but also assuming I may want to keep him viable if I decide I really like the profession and want to develope my first try at a bard, how should I train him and what do you recommend for beginning race/stats? He'll stay an asshole his entire life and continue to look down on and make his views known verbally whenever it seems appropriate to anyone not of his race. I'd like to fit in some pickpocketing too if possible. :smilegrin:
I'm thinking giantman with lots of physical training points to boost defense and blood for the early deed losing years.
Is it too early to call on his "plan" with GSIV coming up?

[StrayRogue]

Human, elven or dark elven are the best racists.

[AnticorRifling]

Originally posted by StrayRogue
Human, elven or dark elven are the best racists.

They might be the best racists but giants will always be the best race.

Try not to hate. :cool:


Edit to add:

Interesting side note my dwarven bard makes racist songs about dark elves. He can't stand them always claims they smell of dark mana. You'll know him if youi hear him, he grumbles on about their acidic smell like copper being smelted. Damn dirty dark elves.

[Edited on 10-7-2003 by AnticorRifling]

[StrayRogue]

Agreed, mechanically, Giants are the best race I'd have to say.

[Soulpieced]

Go giants.