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GSTamral
08-31-2005, 02:27 PM
The Status of Katrina/Oil

Oil is hovering around 70 dollars a barrel. Oddly enough, it isn't the problem in this case. The US is releasing oil from the strategic petroleum reserve to ease pressures.
Katrina caused the loss of over 10 percent of the US refining capacity in the short term. Even if we had more cheap oil, it wouldn’t matter. They can't refine enough to meet demand.
Oil wholesale prices 2.90 for September futures on the New York Mercantile Exchange. Pump prices are between 40 and 75 cents above wholesale prices. Estimates for Gas prices at the pump in September range from 3.20 to 3.65. It will not come down anywhere in the near term until the refining capacity is restored, which could take months, after which gas prices may reduce to the pre-katrina levels of 2.50 a gallon.
There is no set timetable for the restoration of the refinining ability of the Gulf Coast, and none will be given until the damage can be assessed.
Several multinational and larger national companies are working on proactively laying off or forcing retirement for non-essential or hourly staff in anticipation of the loss of national demand created by the devastation in an effort to reduce costs to be able to meet market expectations.
Jet Fuel has jumped 22% in the last two days, and on the spot market, it is expected to rise by another 20-40 percent until the supply can be met.
It takes between 18 months to 4 years to build a refinery to handle the lighter crudes, and up to 5 years for ammonia SCR boiler refineries to handle the heavier ones.
16% of the US chicken exports cannot be made. Expect a Chicken surplus.
Over 40% of the nations steel is imported through the Gulf Coast. Expect a steel shortage for at least the next 6 months. This will drive up housing and building costs significantly.
Natural Gas will also move up in price, having done so by 11% in the last 2 days.
Heating Oil is the hardest hit, as prices are expected to be as high as 4 dollars or more per gallon by Winter.
The textile industry may also experience a surge in production costs.
Close to 1 percent of the current United States workforce is currently affected by Katrina. The workers, as well as a significant number of employers are, for all intensive purposes, not a part of the current economic system, neither generating nor spending money. A high percentage of these workers are involved in the export and import process from one of the largest and deepest ports in the United States. Expect catastrophic (negative or stagnant GDP numbers for the next quarter) effects. This may or may not have long term cyclical effects.
The rebuilding costs will largely be covered by insurance companies, however, many of those affected are not insured. How much the government chooses to step in and provide direct aid is unknown at this point in time.

AnticorRifling
08-31-2005, 02:29 PM
67.485% of all percentages on the internet are bullshit.

Apotheosis
08-31-2005, 02:30 PM
I say we kill Katrina's cat and break her laptop for all of this.

p.s. Katrina is a homosexual, pass the word.

[Edited on 8-31-2005 by Yswithe]

ElanthianSiren
08-31-2005, 02:30 PM
He's right on crude futures, though they fluctuate throughout the day.

OIH is up a ton today, as are the major petroleum stocks as well.

-M

Hulkein
08-31-2005, 02:31 PM
Katrina is a lesbian.

GSTamral
08-31-2005, 02:40 PM
Originally posted by Yswithe
I just love it in the ass with a big stick
[Edited on 8-31-2005 by Yswithe]

Good to know...

Ylena
08-31-2005, 04:39 PM
As long as we're going to worry, let's add another couple of things to the list:

The Port of Southern Louisiana, which runs for 50 miles north and south of New Orleans on the Mississippi, is the fifth largest port in the world in terms of tonnage, and the largest port in the US. If New Orleans and surrounding parishes are hosed, so's the port.

Fifteen percent of US exports by value go through the port -- including a vast amount of grains - soybeans, corn, etc. Guess what's happening in the next month? The crop's ripe and ready to be harvested and shipped.

I work for a major oil company. We've got two refineries and three chemical plants in the area that were all shut down because of the hurricane. Not one word yet on when they intend to start up -- and I'm hearing through the internal grapevine that the one that's close to the NO airport is under 15 feet of water. That facility processes 240,000 barrels of crude a day: roughly 7 million gallons of gas and 2 million gallons of Jet-A aviation fuel. I just got a note from corporate talking about salary continuation for a limited period of time for employees of the affected facilities -- but still not one word on extent of damage or dates for startup. Frankly, that doesn't sound good at all.

So, we're faced with the certainty of gasoline and aviation fuel shortages, because it's not about the supply of crude, it's about our national capacity to refine it. Add in the very real possibility that we're not going to be able to move the grain crop efficiently, and we're looking at a double whammy on food prices.

The real doomsday scenario? Hurricane season is a long, long way from being over. What if we get a Cat 4 that hits Houston?

The sheer scope of this disaster boggles my mind. There are a lot of people on the federal level who need to start stepping up big.

Sean of the Thread
08-31-2005, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by Ylena


The sheer scope of this disaster boggles my mind. There are a lot of people on the federal level who need to start stepping up big.

Why because they have to power to stop hurricanes? I know of one person on the federal level that stepped up big to ensure the safety of oil supply in Iraq.. does that count?

Apotheosis
08-31-2005, 04:52 PM
are we talking about the grain crop moving in the US or outside of the US?

and aren't the imports also going to be slowing down?

GSTamral
08-31-2005, 05:13 PM
Can't even think about startup until they can assess the level of damage. I've heard some numbers from the SCADA call this morning, but they are all very very rough estimations, to the point that for the time being, we have basically shut down all transborder processing in the area. A lot of the smaller supply chain companies (revenue less than 2-3 B PFOY) that used New Orleans heavily have basically announced a company wide forced leave of absence for all staff. Most of the government at this point still do not have a complete picture of what needs to be done in the short and long term. For right now, there is no other option other than to suck it up and deal. There is going to be a lot of lost business, a gas price spike, a broadening liquidity trap on demand from a reduction in workforce and compensated employees nationwide, and the strain economically of the actual damages themselves.

When government officials talk about lowering estimates for GDP growth for Q4 from 3.5% to a number closer to 1.5-2%, that should about say it all for how massive an impact this will have.

Suppa Hobbit Mage
08-31-2005, 05:21 PM
LOL, where's the newspaper article? Did you kill the cat and get the homosexual beat up?

Inquiring minds want to know.

[Edited on 8-31-2005 by Suppa Hobbit Mage]