Can we have new combat messages? Please?

[Renian]

I don't know about you guys, but after playing Gemstone for 8 years on and off, I gotta say...

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, GIVE US SOME NEW PHYSICAL ATTACK COMBAT MESSAGES!

Seriously. I am sick and tired of the same thing over and over and over. Even moreso for critters it doesn't make sense with. How can I deal a crushing blow to a roa'ters spine when worms, even giant ones, don't have spines to begin with?

Honestly, I would really like to see something new. I'd like to see a slew of new combat messages, especially death crit ones. There should even be messages if you roll a 100 and the hit is a death crit...special messages for completely pwning the bastard. For example, you swing your sword at something's throat, you roll a 100, and the game goes:

"Critical Hit!
Deep slash to the Krolvin Warrior's throat exposes the jugular vein!
As the Krolvin Warrior reels from the blow, you tuck your <weapon name> under your arm and rip it out with your bare hands! Blood sprays everywhere as the Krolvin warrior falls dead."

Or something like...

"Critical hit!
Well-placed slash to the throat...misses?
The illusion is dispelled as you tap the reiver's head and it falls from it's neck."

That would be awesome.

Anyone else agree/have other ideas?

[Bobmuhthol]

I, for one, would be fucking pissed if they fucked with crit tables.

[ElanthianSiren]

hehehe -- lots of new programming for min maxers.

Adding random words that mean the same thing as their base root would work too. You could also base the messaging outputted on the person's perception. Synonyms are easy. There are many ways. I doubt anyone cares enough though to spice up combat.

-M

[Viridian]

I agree on the body part damage messaging thing its like when you hunt a quadruped and get, "A well place shot to the weapon hand/arm."....last time I checked four legged animals didn't have hands or arms..

[Renian]

Originally posted by Bobmuhthol
I, for one, would be fucking pissed if they fucked with crit tables.

I don't want the old crits gone at all. I just want some new messages.

[Bobmuhthol]

Still new messages that need to be documented.

[Fallen]

They have recently added a system of EBP messaging, and messaging for Non-corp undead. I wouldn't mind seeing new messaging myself, but there is certainly a healthy variety compared to the days of old.

Anyone ever see all the different Coup de Grace messaging?

[Latrinsorm]

If they put in the hundreds of man-hours it would take to make new messaging, it would still get old in about 5 hunts. Not a good ratio there!

[Renian]

Originally posted by Latrinsorm
If they put in the hundreds of man-hours it would take to make new messaging, it would still get old in about 5 hunts. Not a good ratio there!

If there's enough, then you shouldn't see the same message frequently. Especially if you do my "critical hit" idea. Though I see your point.

[Kitsun]

Originally posted by Fallen
They have recently added a system of EBP messaging, and messaging for Non-corp undead. I wouldn't mind seeing new messaging myself, but there is certainly a healthy variety compared to the days of old.

Anyone ever see all the different Coup de Grace messaging?

I don't know about all of them but I've captured a small ton of them.

Seems like most weapon types default under slash, crush or piercing kills.

[Doyle Hargraves]

>ambush griffin penis

[Warriorbird]

There's DR, Revalos.

[ElanthianSiren]

Out of curiosity, what crit messages would you like to see?

In a perfect game, I'd like to see all types of critting accounted for.

-M

[AnticorRifling]

If you want messages like that learn coup.

[Celephais]

Do you have any idea how many messages there already are?

Slash, Crush, Puncture, Electric, Water, Fire, Acid, Boulder, Ice, Air off the top of my head all have appropriate physical messaging for each rank (0-9) for each location (12) That's 1,200 messages. Granted a lot are repeated (left/right side are the same or in rare cases a rank 8 is the same as a 9) but it's still a ton.

Then you have to count manuver messages, Spell specific (MD/DC/Boil/Unbalance) messages, there are tons... plenty enough for me.

[AnticorRifling]

My pike has some sweet messaging too :cool:

[ElanthianSiren]

Originally posted by AnticorRifling
If you want messages like that learn coup.

I just did that with my brawler. Holy crap; it's beautiful brawling coup. I'm just of a mind that people who want something should propose (in depth) what specifically they'd like to see. In short, I'm curious if she/he wants to see current systems expanded or new crit systems put in place and what kind of system he or she would suggest to make that a reality.

-M

[AnticorRifling]

I just want the giantman pound verb fixed so I can aim it at people. So I pound my chest and bow at (target). I suggested it in depth and got no love :cool:

[Renian]

Originally posted by Celephais
Do you have any idea how many messages there already are?

Slash, Crush, Puncture, Electric, Water, Fire, Acid, Boulder, Ice, Air off the top of my head all have appropriate physical messaging for each rank (0-9) for each location (12) That's 1,200 messages. Granted a lot are repeated (left/right side are the same or in rare cases a rank 8 is the same as a 9) but it's still a ton.

Then you have to count manuver messages, Spell specific (MD/DC/Boil/Unbalance) messages, there are tons... plenty enough for me.

You have mostly listed magical crits. I am a square. I would like some new physical crits that don't involve me spending CMAN points.

[AnticorRifling]

So you want cake but don't wish to pay for it?

[Celephais]

I would like some new physical crits that don't involve me spending CMAN points.
... what do you think the whole CMAN system is? Do you have any idea the development time they put into the CMAN system?

So you want them to develop an entirely new system even though you won't leverage the one they already created.

I think the problem is you're always getting high ranked crits... they should tweak crit randomization so it could drop all the way down to rank zero, this way you are subjected to the entire range of messaging, that's 360 messages for a single command "kill"

[ElanthianSiren]

Is it cake or equality?

TEA AND CAKE OR DEATH!!!

-M