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Brattt8525
08-26-2005, 10:56 PM
Ileenia says, "Dese funi ya waise em in da air and dey make ye tufer."

Watching her in Teras makes my eyes bleed.

Amber
08-26-2005, 11:01 PM
ouch!

Bobmuhthol
08-26-2005, 11:05 PM
Shit, mb. I'll tone it down in the future.

Andreal
08-26-2005, 11:43 PM
Atleast she isn't an Aelotoi

Brattt8525
08-26-2005, 11:48 PM
But she talks like that ALL the time and when she first came to the Isle she talked normal.

08-26-2005, 11:57 PM
wow shes roleplaying... amazing isnt it.

ElanthianSiren
08-27-2005, 12:02 AM
People get down on characters with accents all the time. If you can't understand them, just avoid the character.

Maybe she's RPing a headwound if she just started it? No idea. Generally, my accented characters are RP'd as getting a little less accented as they acclaimate. Have you asked her why she speaks that way?

-M

Brattt8525
08-27-2005, 12:02 AM
Originally posted by Dave
wow shes roleplaying... amazing isnt it.

Roleplaying? Jesus I would hope your kidding.

Brattt8525
08-27-2005, 12:05 AM
Ileenia asks, "Ow kin a town av no tabuls?"

Ileenia says, "At da moder lode in."

Accent? ya ok.

Amber
08-27-2005, 12:38 AM
Ok, I can tell she's saying "How can a town have no tables." but what the heck is "At da moder lode in." supposed to be?

An accent is one thing, but this is just ridiculous.

SpunGirl
08-27-2005, 12:40 AM
At least she's trying. Some people don't even do that. Like ES said, if you don't understand her, just avoid her. No bfd.

-K

Keller
08-27-2005, 12:40 AM
Maybe she is from Krakochia?

Brattt8525
08-27-2005, 12:45 AM
Originally posted by SpunGirl
At least she's trying. Some people don't even do that. Like ES said, if you don't understand her, just avoid her. No bfd.

-K

Avoiding her would mean I couldn't be at the statue where my character does all of her socializing. I am not the only one who can't stand her way of talking, I don't see it as any kind of Role Play unless she is playing a fucking retarded asshole who can't grasp speaking correctly.

There is no accent, there is no RP she suddenly one day starting speaking like a freaking idiot that makes me want to log off.

I have inquired IC as to what and why she speaks as she does to only be told in her insane speaking that she is teasing? WTF

[Edited on 8-27-2005 by Brattt8525]

crazymage
08-27-2005, 12:45 AM
at the mother load in its the inn on teras. Gothique showed me!

Suppa Hobbit Mage
08-27-2005, 12:47 AM
I talk like that :)

Brattt8525
08-27-2005, 12:50 AM
Originally posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
I talk like that :)

Ileenia says, "Dese funi ya waise em in da air and dey make ye tufer."
Wow like that eh?

ElanthianSiren
08-27-2005, 12:57 AM
Squealch is your friend.

SpunGirl
08-27-2005, 12:58 AM
"These funny you raise them in the air and they make you tougher." I understand it. Squelch is your friend.

-K

Artha
08-27-2005, 12:59 AM
Hand her some torban leaf.

SpunGirl
08-27-2005, 01:00 AM
OMG ES totally beat me to the punch!

-K

Suppa Hobbit Mage
08-27-2005, 01:01 AM
Originally posted by Brattt8525

Originally posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
I talk like that :)

Ileenia says, "Dese funi ya waise em in da air and dey make ye tufer."
Wow like that eh?

I shure dew.

Brattt8525
08-27-2005, 01:10 AM
Originally posted by SpunGirl
"These funny you raise them in the air and they make you tougher." I understand it. Squelch is your friend.

-K

Yes and squelch is the answer I was looking for. :rolleyes:

I hope those who agree don't ever post about how something/someone bugs them IG. Because squelch is your friend.

[Edited on 8-27-2005 by Brattt8525]

The Cat In The Hat
08-27-2005, 01:11 AM
I did not show Sergey any such thing, thank you.

I have a character that talks funny. Being mentally insane and all it adds to her RP. Nothing wrong with it IMO, I wouldnt go as far as to squelch someone with an accent I didnt like.

[Edited on 8-27-2005 by The Cat In The Hat]

ElanthianSiren
08-27-2005, 01:31 AM
Originally posted by Brattt8525

Originally posted by SpunGirl
"These funny you raise them in the air and they make you tougher." I understand it. Squelch is your friend.

-K

Yes and squelch is the answer I was looking for. :rolleyes:

I hope those who agree don't ever post about how something/someone bugs them IG. Because squelch is your friend.

[Edited on 8-27-2005 by Brattt8525]

Squelch removes the offensive behavior from your view. I use it a lot in game. There's a friggin fountain in the tables in the northern inn in Ta'vaalor that NEEDS it.

It's not like this chick is killing your characters, so squelching her is going to fix your problem, unless you're saying that you have a problem with anyone in GS that RPs having an accent. More annoying to me are Dhe'nar speaking Dhe'nari, but they are in character, as she is.

A character has no idea of the difference between the words in and inn. They sound the same. It's kind of like being unable to jump on people for misusing its vs. it's.


-M

SpunGirl
08-27-2005, 01:33 AM
Well then what IS the answer you're looking for? "OMG U R RITE H8 HER!" Sorry, I just don't agree. And being that accents are neither disallowed in GS or inherently OOC, looks like you'll either have to a) put up with it or b) squelch her. Them's the facts.

-K

Amber
08-27-2005, 01:36 AM
But other people can make up accents and still be understood without too much of an effort. This person isn't even consistent in her accent from the little I've seen of it, arbitrarily using ya or ye. My hypothesis is that she just doesn't know how to spell.

Jenisi
08-27-2005, 01:39 AM
I don't think she was really looking for that. She just finds the accent simply distastful enough to feel the need to post a thread on it out of frustration. Just let it go I guess.

SpunGirl
08-27-2005, 01:41 AM
I agree, Jenisi, it's cool. I've complained before about stuff that people were like, "omg I disagree." It's no bfd, seems like she's getting a little riled up over the disagreement bit.

-K

Brattt8525
08-27-2005, 01:50 AM
Originally posted by SpunGirl
I agree, Jenisi, it's cool. I've complained before about stuff that people were like, "omg I disagree." It's no bfd, seems like she's getting a little riled up over the disagreement bit.

-K

SG you really have a misguided idea of what riled up is apparently. I do not think my response to you or anyone else gave the slightest clue I was "riled" up
:P

SpunGirl
08-27-2005, 02:12 AM
Cool, then, you're relaxed about it. Good deal.

-K

Gigantuous
08-27-2005, 03:57 AM
I'm not relaxed about it! Just kill her! REPEATEDLY! :hang:

:grin:

Volstock
08-27-2005, 04:13 AM
That character is me...I also play As Gigantous when I'm bored and oh yeah Naessi is also me.....and I'm also Maliku....

Keller
08-27-2005, 04:17 AM
When I played I had characters who spoke in common english and proper english. I would amend spellings (somethin' instead of something, etc) to give an idea of the personality of the character. But I'd never consider trying to phonetically alter, mispell, and generally mangle the english language in an attempt to "role-play". There is something to be said for allowing the language you use in a text-based game to portray the level of education, level of propriety, etc -- but there is no excuse for this chicks speech. And in no way should Bratt have to essentially cut out a part of the world she is trying to manifest (squeelch another character) just because the other character wants to type like a fool. If anything I would talk to a GM about it and convince them that her manner of speech is unacceptable and that they should discretely discuss the matter with her. I don't think she'd give more than a shit and a half about Bratt's character if you stepped OOC and whispered to her about it. But if it was coming from a GM she might tone down her "role play" to a more reasonable level.


Just my two cents.

Nieninque
08-27-2005, 04:40 AM
I think it is funny when Americans complain about someone talking strangely.

Ah the irony.

Fallen
08-27-2005, 04:53 AM
Just for reference, what would be the lines you would add to squelch this person?

Ileena says, "
Ileena exlaims, "
Ileena asks, "

Or just the name Ileena?

I tried to squelch things before. It never seemed to work.

Czeska
08-27-2005, 08:24 AM
Last I saw she's in the Landing. I think she's stalking me. But Teras has been Soooooo Lethargic.

Snapp
08-27-2005, 08:28 AM
Okay, that would make me scream if I was sitting next to someone talking like that.

TheRoseLady
08-27-2005, 08:35 AM
Originally posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
I talk like that :)

That is exactly what I was thinking, and honestly I love the way you RP Tayvin. I can't imagine how difficult it is to translate your words into "Tayvin Speak".

Warriorbird
08-27-2005, 09:11 AM
"I think it is funny when Americans complain about someone talking strangely. "

Least we took the stupid u's out.

Thank you once again, TR.

Burnt out Priestess
08-27-2005, 09:15 AM
Ileenia used to talk normal and i think she returned to Teras yesterday cause she was asking about the schedule,but i could be wrong.

Brattt8525
08-27-2005, 09:50 AM
Originally posted by Burnt out Priestess
Ileenia used to talk normal and i think she returned to Teras yesterday cause she was asking about the schedule,but i could be wrong.

Yes she is back on Teras.

Askip
08-27-2005, 10:20 AM
I doubt any GMs would be concerned about her speech, have you ever listened to Geoff for any length of time?

I enjoy accents, even if it may take a little time to translate.

:D

Nieninque
08-27-2005, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by Warriorbird
"I think it is funny when Americans complain about someone talking strangely. "

Least we took the stupid u's out.

Thank you once again, TR.

You took loads of letters out...put some different ones in and fucked the words up good and proper.

Back to the topic in hand...there was a halfling called Tallybelle I think who had the maddest accent. I had to really concentrate to figure out what the fuck she was talking about. I just RPed Snowy as not being able to understand her.

No biggie.

Same difference with this one. It is RPing. Whether you like it is another matter.

Edited to unamericanise a word or two :blush:

[Edited on 27-8-05 by Nieninque]

HarmNone
08-27-2005, 10:25 AM
Gah! Geoff-speak! Don't remind me! :spaz:

Now I'm going to have kilt nightmares! Damn you, Askip!

Gigantuous
08-27-2005, 11:19 AM
Originally posted by Volstock
That character is me...I also play As Gigantous when I'm bored and oh yeah Naessi is also me.....and I'm also Maliku....

You play as me too?!

I feel like such a whore.

War Angel
08-27-2005, 11:47 AM
I have a character that speaks like that.
She is Aelotoi, and unless they get rid of my speaking in broken common, I will continue to slaughter the english language. I have seen people argue that after this long, the aelotoi should have a grasp of common and I agree completely, however, the game keeps me bound to speaking brokenly.

When people outside the aelotoi race speak oddly, I the player just assume they have some reason for their RP choices and go with it. Maybe ask her why she speaks so oddly? Perhaps she is missing all her teeth? Maybe she jumped out of the treehouse and suffered brain damage, maybe she wasn't properly educated? There could be a million reasons "why."

Speaking in broken common, you say, "Thank."

SpunGirl
08-27-2005, 12:29 PM
Regarding squelching, if you squelch a specific name, you won't see ANY lines of text that contain that name. So if someone else mentions her, you won't see it If you FIND ILEENIA, the line won't appear as a command on your screen, and "brave adventurer question" will be blank underneath (if she's in-game). Any thoughts she sends out or things she says will simply not appear.

-K

Amber
08-27-2005, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by War Angel
Maybe ask her why she speaks so oddly? Perhaps she is missing all her teeth? Maybe she jumped out of the treehouse and suffered brain damage, maybe she wasn't properly educated? There could be a million reasons "why."



Her reasoning is that she's "just teasing".:?:

ElanthianSiren
08-27-2005, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by Askip
I doubt any GMs would be concerned about her speech, have you ever listened to Geoff for any length of time?

I enjoy accents, even if it may take a little time to translate.

:D

Gin yer goan tae complain about Geoff laddie, ye ken ye needa include an example.

-M

edited to add: :heart: Geoff, :heart: accented characters.

[Edited on Sat, August th, 2005 by ElanthianSiren]

War Angel
08-27-2005, 02:43 PM
Ouch! Well ... in that case, I'd just avoid RPing with her, were it me.
People play the game different ways. I remember when I first came to Gemstone, I thought it was a big chatroom, and I was a COMPLETE idiot. (I was running around asking people how to get the bird ((falchion)) off my hand.) I'd like to think by watching other folks with better RP skills in action, that I have learned a lot.
Guess what I am trying to say is, lead by example, and hopefully, folks will follow.

Chelle
08-27-2005, 03:01 PM
Tempting though it may be at times, I think squelching is OOC. Personally I think squelching someone goes against RP more than talking like an unintelligible moron. Reason being is that you, unfortunately can't squelch people IRL, you know? You either A. RP ignoring it, or B. deal with it.

I think a person can RP having an accent without being so annoying about it. At least have the accent where people can understand you a little better, yet still have the accent, speech impediment, or brain damage to your hearts content?

There has to be some middle ground. Because you need to have people interact with you in some way to roleplay right? Unless you want to spend your time talking to a tree made out of text.

People who are good examples of good RPers doing good accents are Geoff, Kyria(?) not sure if I spelled it right. She did the french like accent, and there was this other guy who's name excapes me. His name starts with an N. Some people found him irritating, though. Nevrik? No. Not sure.

I mean at least they are consistant and chose an accent, that is interesting, and understandable, and stick with it. This Illenia person seems to not know which accent to have.

It's nice to see someone try to be different and talk different. What is annoying to me is the people who slap on a Nae, and yea, and ye, and assume that because they use those words they are RPing. Yet they don't say thee and thou.

Sylph
08-27-2005, 03:07 PM
I hate accents like that.

Artha
08-27-2005, 03:17 PM
His name starts with an N. Some people found him irritating, though. Nevrik? No. Not sure.
Nevrak?

KraizMaule
08-27-2005, 03:39 PM
Nevrek Araknathalin.

Vhen the moon is vull, I vill transvorm into a vight!

Warriorbird
08-27-2005, 03:52 PM
Nevrek's accent is awesome.

SpunGirl
08-27-2005, 04:10 PM
Originally posted by Chelle
Tempting though it may be at times, I think squelching is OOC.



I agree with you, but I'm not sure what else to suggest to someone who can't stand an accent and says they cannot avoid it.

-K

Viridian
08-27-2005, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by Brattt8525

Originally posted by Dave
wow shes roleplaying... amazing isnt it.

Roleplaying? Jesus I would hope your kidding.

Lots of people roleplay this way, though granted it is so very annoying, when they overdo it.

Askip
08-27-2005, 05:08 PM
<< Gin yer goan tae complain about Geoff laddie >>

Tis a compliment, nay a complaint. I enjoy it thoroughly!!

Along the speech theme - how about Thrudh? He does a great job of with a very small vocabulary.

:D

Fallen
08-27-2005, 05:21 PM
Squelching may be OOC, but it is a game, and if someone is ruining your enjoyment of the game.... Squelch them.

Vesi
08-27-2005, 05:42 PM
I don't mind accents as long as the person is consistent. I don't want to hear you then the next second hear ye. I have characters that have accents and also speech patterns. One won't use contractions. One says all right as alright and another says all right. (I know... nothing major but it takes some thinking at least) I really put myself in their place when I start to play them and adjust accordingly.

Oh and LOL at the person trying to get rid of the bird in their hand ... the falchion. hehe

Vesi

Edited because I kant spel.

[Edited on 8-27-2005 by Vesi]

Suppa Hobbit Mage
08-27-2005, 06:19 PM
I've always played Tayvin with a lisp / accent. Some people hate it, some like it, some are indifferent...

Just like everything else in the world. Frankly I'd rather someone attempt to RP than yet another dark elf sorcerer with runes of death and destruction tattoo'd on their foreheads (though this too, is roleplaying I suppose -- just played out). So let me amend that to I'd rather someone attempt to RP than someone who doesn't.

Fallen
08-27-2005, 06:40 PM
I've always played Tayvin with a lisp / accent. Some people hate it, some like it, some are indifferent...

Just like everything else in the world. Frankly I'd rather someone attempt to RP than yet another dark elf sorcerer with runes of death and destruction tattoo'd on their foreheads (though this too, is roleplaying I suppose -- just played out). So let me amend that to I'd rather someone attempt to RP than someone who doesn't. >>

A funny talking halfling, and you are hating on evil dark elves?

Who the hell cares about stereotypes? As so long as the character is well roleplayed, the rest shouldn't matter.

Sean of the Thread
08-27-2005, 06:48 PM
My empath recently burnt her tongue and now she talks with terrible impairment. She now talks with a leet speak accent. Tough shit if you don't like it.

farmersdaughter
08-27-2005, 06:53 PM
I interact with quite a few people who have accents (Tayvin, Cadsreel, Galilea...) etc... Sometimes I have to sit and stare for a second to try and decipher what they meant, but they're all reasonably easy for me to understand.

I've found that to -play- a character with an accent has made it easier for me to understand others.

But..... Uh. It took way too long for me to figure out what the hell that chick was saying in the example. There's a line between having an accent and being completely unintelligable.

And.. Squelch is bad, IMO. The day I squelch someone is the one day they'll have said something vitally important. Heh.

-farmer's daughter

HarmNone
08-27-2005, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by farmersdaughter
I interact with quite a few people who have accents (Tayvin, Cadsreel, Galilea...) etc... Sometimes I have to sit and stare for a second to try and decipher what they meant, but they're all reasonably easy for me to understand.

I've found that to -play- a character with an accent has made it easier for me to understand others.

But..... Uh. It took way too long for me to figure out what the hell that chick was saying in the example. There's a line between having an accent and being completely unintelligable.

And.. Squelch is bad, IMO. The day I squelch someone is the one day they'll have said something vitally important. Heh.

-farmer's daughter

Heh. Not to worry, hon. There are some people who couldn't say something vitally important if you gave them a book of famous quotes. Squelch away without a qualm. ;)

Nieninque
08-27-2005, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by Fallen
I've always played Tayvin with a lisp / accent. Some people hate it, some like it, some are indifferent...

Just like everything else in the world. Frankly I'd rather someone attempt to RP than yet another dark elf sorcerer with runes of death and destruction tattoo'd on their foreheads (though this too, is roleplaying I suppose -- just played out). So let me amend that to I'd rather someone attempt to RP than someone who doesn't. >>

A funny talking halfling, and you are hating on evil dark elves?

Who the hell cares about stereotypes? As so long as the character is well roleplayed, the rest shouldn't matter.

PLease use quote tags...it makes it so much easier to read your post and it isnt hard to do

TheRoseLady
08-27-2005, 09:47 PM
Originally posted by Askip
Along the speech theme - how about Thrudh? He does a great job of with a very small vocabulary.

:D

Thrudh is one of my all time favorites. Used to call mana head magic.

Sean of the Thread
08-27-2005, 09:58 PM
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Terminator X
08-28-2005, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by ElanthianSiren
Maybe she's RPing a headwound

She does an excellent job, then, at RPing the exact same braindamaging headwound that gives Iron Mike Tyson his speech impediment :thumbsup:

Axhinde
08-28-2005, 10:19 PM
Holy shit, I fucking got in an argument with this piece of work in the park. She, in her own eloquent words, "can sanct wehre I plz". The fact she was born ended up pissing me off, so I left it alone.

Doyle Hargraves
08-28-2005, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by Brattt8525
Ileenia says, "Dese funi ya waise em in da air and dey make ye tufer."

Watching her in Teras makes my eyes bleed.

Wow. All I can say is that's definitely not the original Ileenia. I didn't even think the character existed anymore. That's the first time I've seen that name pop up in probably 5 years.

[Edited on 8-29-2005 by Doyle Hargraves]

Landrion
08-29-2005, 10:17 AM
I usually dont have a problem with people who spell oddly for an accent. As several have said, at least theyre trying.

The deal with this accent (and some other people's) that tends to draw fire is the childlike aspect. It is easy to find childish things or even real children irritating for some people. Such people find it even less tolerable when an adult acts childish.

I'm not unsympathetic to adults being child-like. I indulge in babytalk with my one year old from time to time. However, Im aware that other adults dont find it endearing to listen to. Perhaps that is what is so irritating about the baby-talk "accents". It's like somene speaking baby talk to me. I dont want to hear it.

This kind of rp is common with halfling (and I suppose now gnome) players. For me, its become as trite and overdone as the rune-covered-dark-elven-sorc-demon-lord routine.

If I could give any kind of advice to someone doing this RP it is quality over quantity. If a character has trouble with pronunciation its natural to try to express themselves with other methods. My son typically does the tug on your clothes routine, tongue clucking or humming noises. Our two year old neighbor does sometimes do short sentences (that I have trouble understanding) but just as often conveys himself through gesture, babble or tantrum. That, by the way is why adults tend to find kid sentences endearing: We're impressed when the do something they cant do consistently.

Showal
08-29-2005, 10:46 AM
<<Back to the topic in hand...there was a halfling called Tallybelle I think who had the maddest accent. I had to really concentrate to figure out what the fuck she was talking about. I just RPed Snowy as not being able to understand her.

No biggie.>>

Sorry Nien for the bad quoting ... but I think I remember seeing this. Didn't Tallybelle RP a little kid that uses a tart kiln and gives out tarts? I think I remember seeing someone saying that they can't understand her and treating her like a moron for speaking like one. It was pretty funny.

Anyways, one of the people I LOVE to RP with the most speaks with a very heavy accent. Actually, 2. One speaks with an accent when using the common tongue because common is his second language. He speaks his other languages without an accent.

I don't have a problem with accents. I do have a problem with changing your RP to fit your needs. If this person actually does change back and forth between accent and no accent without any IC reason, then that's retarded. Accents work well with some characters, but the ones I've seen who RP it well generally don't talk much (sometimes because the characters themselves are aware of their own accent and are kind of embarassed by it). There are a number of good reasons why someone would talk with an accent.

I think if you're going to RP it, you need to do it consistantly and well or else it's just retarded. And using squealch is pretty dumb too. There are a number of people I ignore in game by simply not expending the effort to read what they said, sort of like how in real life I ignore people by not listening to them.

Nilandia
08-29-2005, 06:53 PM
Adding my own take to the topic...

Nilandia does have an accent, albeit not very noticable unless you know what to look for and heavily scaled back from what it used to be.

When I first started playing Nilandia, I had her speaking the "nae" and "aye" that a number of people seem to cringe over. I played her that way because I envisioned that she was still new to languages other than her native language, Sylvan, so her accent showed up in Common, Elven and Guildspeak.

As time passed, I grew tired of her accent, and I felt that it would also make sense that, as Nilandia is immersed in lands that speak these foreign languages, her accent would diminish. So, I dropped the "nae" and "aye" bit to her current accent.

The only part of speech that is different for Nilandia now is that she uses absolutely no contractions. She says "do not" for "don't" and "I am" for "I'm." The reasoning behind this is that while learning foreign languages, a person may not be so comfortable using "shortcuts" such as contractions and instead speak the full phrase and hope the listeners get their meaning. I know that exact thing happened to me while I was studying German in school. I wasn't sure if the phrase I wanted to use was actually proper, or if it would sound like gibberish, so I stuck to what I did know.

Thankfully, I've been careful most times in keeping the accent consistent, and I can only recall one time when she spoke a contraction, and no one even mentioned it to her. In time, though, maybe I'll have Nilandia pick up a couple "shortcuts" to continue her mastery of Common.

Nilandia