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Versus
08-25-2005, 11:14 PM
Well, I finally decided to clean the dust off my WoW CD and install it. Now I am poking around to see if anyone has any recommendations for a good PvP class, race, server, and guild.

Let me know.

Toxicvixen
08-25-2005, 11:32 PM
I know the PC has a guild called Hounds of Rexxar on Dunemal for the horde side. But as for class and race I'm too partial to the Shamans myself. Whether or not they are the best is a debate everyone goes through. You should just test out the different classes and decide what best suits your playing needs and wants.
I.E. if you like to tank be a warrior. If you like to heal people be a priest, yadda yadda yadda. Every class has its ups and downs.

crazymage
08-25-2005, 11:32 PM
im confused, did you make a pc account? or did someone steal Ieva's avatar

Artha
08-25-2005, 11:33 PM
Shadow priests are probably best PvP...they melt faces.

Numbers
08-25-2005, 11:34 PM
Undead shadow priests are probably the best in PvP.

Versus
08-25-2005, 11:34 PM
Originally posted by crazymage
im confused, did you make a pc account? or did someone steal Ieva's avatar


<-------- Is Ieva with a new PC account because *shrugs*

crazymage
08-25-2005, 11:52 PM
oh well, ken said hi.

Wezas
08-25-2005, 11:55 PM
My suggestion - read up on the differences between servers.

PvP servers involve the most Alliance vs. Horde fighting - but the downside can be frustrating quests because of interferance.

RP servers don't have as much PvP unless you are in certain areas (arenas, battlegrounds, if you attack an opposing faction). The roleplay gets better as you get further from the main towns. If you really enjoy RP there are guilds that advertise being medium/heavy/very heavily roleplayed.

Normal servers have the same rules at RP servers - without the roleplay.

In addition to the Server/guild listed above - quite a few who post here are on the Argent Dawn RP server. Guild name is Hyjal Protectorate.

Some Rogue
08-26-2005, 01:31 AM
Yeah, but they force all their new members to cyber on the tram. :yes:

Sean of the Thread
08-26-2005, 01:43 AM
Teeoncy smirks and let a finger slip inside, at the same time, she leans forward and says "This is what murky umber oil is for baby"

*Xyelin disguises himself like a tree and makes crow noises*

Drew
08-26-2005, 06:08 AM
Originally posted by Xyelin
Teeoncy smirks and let a finger slip inside, at the same time, she leans forward and says "This is what murky umber oil is for baby"

*Xyelin disguises himself like a tree and makes crow noises*



Haha, I, for one, quite enjoyed this.

Androidpk
08-26-2005, 08:13 AM
Shadow priests are pretty lethal, but don't expect many invites to instances being shadow spec :smilegrin:

Orc rogue is another choice for pvp, their racial trait hardiness helps when you fight other rogues.

Jahira
08-26-2005, 08:36 AM
Be whatever class you want. Be whatever race you want. Be what you like. Any class can be deadly at level 60 if you know how to play it. It is more about having fun killing people than which is the most lethal.

Serverwise, skullcrusher is the server I am on. High population PvP. If you come I can get you into my guild. We run MC, Onyxia and BWL (the 40 man instances where you all need to be max level) and also run instances to help lower levels. Send me a U2U if you are interested.

AnticorRifling
08-26-2005, 08:41 AM
Dunemaul, horde. And I'll say druids are the way to go. :cool:

Jadewolff
08-26-2005, 08:41 AM
Originally posted by Androidpk
Shadow priests are pretty lethal, but don't expect many invites to instances being shadow spec :smilegrin:

Orc rogue is another choice for pvp, their racial trait hardiness helps when you fight other rogues.

I don't really understand this concept, not being invited to a raid simply because you are specced wrong. I have a priest in my guild that's shadow specced. We took her to MC when she was still only 59. Ranked #3 in healing. Now, I'm sure she'd be "better" at healing if she weren't shadow specced. But she obviously gets the job done just fine and why the heck would anyone tell her exactly how she should play her character.

AnticorRifling
08-26-2005, 08:49 AM
I don't think a priest would have an issue but I'm pretty sure as a druid if I don't get heavy restoration specced I won't be able to keep up with the healing.

Nieninque
08-26-2005, 08:56 AM
You could manage, just wouldnt be as effective as yuo could.
Unless you are rest spec, you wont have innervate which is like having a second mana bar, so your healing will subsequently not be as good as it could be, but you would still be a healer.

AnticorRifling
08-26-2005, 09:08 AM
True, I'm probably going to respecc for innervate when I get to the end game instances. But until then feral with a dash of the other two for spice w00t.

Androidpk
08-26-2005, 09:13 AM
Well, some guilds request specific talent builds.


Jahira, how far has your guild got in BWL?

Trouble
08-26-2005, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by 3704558
Undead shadow priests are probably the best in PvP.

They are tough and boring to level though.

My undead shadow priest (now 45) is finally starting to be able to melt faces reliably. He can handle most 1v1 encounters with like-leveled opponents. He continues to be smacked around, however, in mass PvP (and in ganks). Everyone always aims for the priest first. We have no armor and make opponents' lives more difficult by healing away the work they've done on our buddies.

Don't worry about the not being invited to instances part. That doesn't become an issue until you're in your late 50's and are thinking about end-game instancing. You can melt faces all you want until then. There is considerable debate on the official (and other) boards about whether a shadow/discipline priest is actually any better at PvP or healing than a Disc/Holy priest.

With all that said, your best bet for popularity (easily being invited to groups) would be a druid or priest. Your worst chances are with rogues, since they're very common. Druids probably have the steepest learning curve, followed by hunters/warlocks. There are multiple facets to those classes, while priests, warriors, rogues, and mages tend to be one-trick ponies. Shamen fall somewhere in between, depending on if you actually use their spells or not.

Hulkein
08-26-2005, 09:28 AM
Melt faces shadow priests do.

Jadewolff
08-26-2005, 09:40 AM
I personally think the classes that have the learning curve tend to be the most fun to play. There's the challenge in learning how to do many different things well. Unfortunately, hunters seem to have a bad rep since there are so many bad ones out there. I've met enough well played hunters to cringe on their behalf when I see others that act like morons.

AnticorRifling
08-26-2005, 09:49 AM
Last night I had the pleasure of actually getting a good group together. 3 people (myself included) that all had the same quests in 1k needles. It was druid (me), shaman, and shadow priest. We probably got 20-25k exp last night and had a blast. It's so easy when you're working with a good group of people that know their professions.

Example:

We had to take on an elite boss, just the shaman and I as the priest was done for the evening. We stand just outside of aggro and he drops all the totems and I go pull the mob to the totem range, then we DPS the shit out of it and when we got low I'd go back to casting form and heal. It made for some real fun and easy xp.

Any profession is good if you're not retarded.

AnticorRifling
08-26-2005, 09:50 AM
Change professions to classes in WoW...still learning that heh.

Trouble
08-26-2005, 10:01 AM
Originally posted by Jadewolff
I personally think the classes that have the learning curve tend to be the most fun to play. There's the challenge in learning how to do many different things well.

I agree, but I think it would be good for someone new to the game to try a warrior or rogue first to get the hang of the system. For me, WoW was the first game I'd played since I started GS back in 1996, so there was a steep learning curve for me. I had no idea what a tank was, what aggro meant, and hadn't played a graphical game since Doom 2. I found a lot of guides on being a priest in WoW and eventually got the hang of it.

To the original poster, I wanted to reinforce what someone else said baout PvP servers being tougher to level on. You'll find yourself getting ganked by hihg-level people in lowbie contested areas, so completeing some quests can get very frustrating. The good thing about it is that it encourages you to group up and make friends (so you can all die together, heh).

I'd imagine the regular servers (and RP) would be much more boring in that respect; everyone is safe all the time... less adrenaline, less fun, but less monitors thrown out the window I suppose.

Androidpk
08-26-2005, 10:09 AM
For pvp servers, the alliance side has more non-contested areas early on to level up safely in.

AnticorRifling
08-26-2005, 10:11 AM
They also have smaller wing wongs.

Taurens are hung like bulls :cool:

08-26-2005, 10:13 AM
Originally posted by Trouble
To the original poster, I wanted to reinforce what someone else said baout PvP servers being tougher to level on. You'll find yourself getting ganked by hihg-level people in lowbie contested areas, so completeing some quests can get very frustrating. The good thing about it is that it encourages you to group up and make friends (so you can all die together, heh).

I'd imagine the regular servers (and RP) would be much more boring in that respect; everyone is safe all the time... less adrenaline, less fun, but less monitors thrown out the window I suppose.

You can't really get killed questing (by the opposite faction) until about level 20 though, even on the PvP servers (which I think are a better choice than a RP server).

I don't really think WoW is all that conducive to RP, and I don't think I'd have as much fun playing it if I was RP'ing, as opposed to just talking... I imagine the RP servers as the place where you can't say 'Fuck' on the guild channel. :D

Sean of the Thread
08-26-2005, 10:49 AM
PvP servers are not that bad you fucking carebears. It's the carebear servers where you got to listen to tram cyber sex.

Jadewolff
08-26-2005, 11:32 AM
Originally posted by Tea & Strumpets
I don't really think WoW is all that conducive to RP, and I don't think I'd have as much fun playing it if I was RP'ing, as opposed to just talking... I imagine the RP servers as the place where you can't say 'Fuck' on the guild channel. :D

This depends so much on your guild. My God the amount of "fucks" I hear on my guild channel is crazy!

As far as RP, there's simply not as much communication in a graphical game as there is in a text based game. But I have noticed that most people do make the effort to RP when speaking out of Guild Chat or Party Chat.

weasel82
08-26-2005, 11:59 AM
Versus,

If you are going alliance, choose Stormrage and either the guild Obsidian Skies, or Order of Chaose, I'd happy be happy to welcome you into either.

If you're looking for a race or class. Groups are always looking for 'tanks' and healers. So warriors are good and so are rogues for 'tanks', otherwise be a paladin or priest.

If neither tickle your fancy, I'm fond of the hunter...he can go solo with a pet...that always worked for me. I dig Night Elves and Dwarves, but it depends on what you're looking for...

:)

CT

Sean of the Thread
08-26-2005, 12:14 PM
Dwarven priest!! Melt faces until 55-60 then respec holy and heal for guild raids. MELT FACES MUTHA FUKA!

AnticorRifling
08-26-2005, 12:16 PM
How can a rogue in leather tank? Sure they can keep aggro great because of the damage they deal but they just don't have the armor or HP for it wouldn't they need an almost dedicated healer to just them?

Sean of the Thread
08-26-2005, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by AnticorRifling
How can a rogue in leather tank? Sure they can keep aggro great because of the damage they deal but they just don't have the armor or HP for it wouldn't they need an almost dedicated healer to just them?

When I quit playing a few months back Rogues were the suck for anything other than ganking/corpse camping fun. They could barely get into an end game instance group.. no one wanted them.

I did Uldaman (at uldaman level) about 10 times with just 4 other priests..we rocked the mutha fukin house. That was fun shit..

Doyle Hargraves
08-26-2005, 12:43 PM
Well, I finally decided to clean the dust off my WoW CD and install it. Now I am poking around to see if anyone has any recommendations for a good PvP class,

You will melt faces as a shadow priest in pvp.


Shadow priests are pretty lethal, but don't expect many invites to instances being shadow spec

I chalk that up to ignorance on the part of people thinking that if you're not holy spec, you suck for instances.

My girlfriend's character is the main healer in her guild's Molten Core runs and she's shadow spec. They haven't run into any problems because of it yet, don't have tons of downtime, and half the people didn't even realize she was shadow spec until she told them. They cleared Lucifron, Magmadar and Gehannas in just under 3 hours the other night, then went and killed Onyxia (since they weren't expecting to be done iwth MC so fast), all with a shadow priest as the main healer.

Holy priests are overrated.


So warriors are good and so are rogues for 'tanks', otherwise be a paladin or priest.

You're half right anyway. Rogues can't tank worth a shit (unless you have 4732809 healers). They don't have shitloads of HP like warriors, and they wear leather instead of plate.

Overall I think Shaman is the best pvp class, with shadow priests a close second. There's almost no end to the things shamans can do -- melee damage, magic damage, healing, raising (they can even raise themselves once per hour), travel form (can transform into a ghost wolf), totems, mail armor, etc. You name it and a shaman can most likely do it, and really well.

As for race, everyone says Tauren is the best for Shaman because of their Warstomp racial ability. It stuns I think up to 5 targets within a few yards for 2 seconds. It might not sound like much, but 2 seconds in pvp is HUGE.

Sean of the Thread
08-26-2005, 12:49 PM
Yeah everyone thought that about face melters. I actually found being shadow in an instance helpful for pulling agro off of members as their damage spells agro like a bitch.

weasel82
08-26-2005, 01:51 PM
Okay, perhaps I should have considered rogues to be 'MLRS' instead of tanks since they deal a shitload of damage, but they aren't as heavily armored...

Skeeter
08-26-2005, 03:01 PM
Warning: Close proximity to Shadow Priests may cause your face to melt.