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Apotheosis
08-09-2005, 02:00 PM
who's guilty of this habit?

didn't wezas have an "i win" program written for it?

Bobmuhthol
08-09-2005, 02:02 PM
I had some statistics calculator thing for Texas Hold'Em but I deleted it :(

I used to play with Falgrin and the like, putting in 1mil silver each. I think I ended up out around 2mil after it was over.

Sean of the Thread
08-09-2005, 02:04 PM
I would only suggest playing online poker if you consider yourself a "veteran" with at least 5-10 years of face to face real money experience.

[Edited on 8-9-2005 by Xyelin]

Gridlock
08-09-2005, 02:04 PM
I read in maxium last month about guys who get 5 or 6 computers going at once and scam people make about 3 grand a week or so.

Sean of the Thread
08-09-2005, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by Gridlock
I read in maxium last month about guys who get 5 or 6 computers going at once and scam people make about 3 grand a week or so.

The cheating really does run wild online. Also credit card thieves use online poker rooms to dump deposited cash from the stolen credit cards to other partners. (basically laundering). There is soo much to be wary of online not to mention you will pick up very bad habits and not really learn the game that it is just a bad idea for poker noobs. It is fine for some fun or tourny play as cheap entertainment.

AnticorRifling
08-09-2005, 02:20 PM
Best thing to do is yell SLAPJACK everytime a jack is played. They love that in online poker.

Sean of the Thread
08-09-2005, 11:07 PM
Originally posted by AnticorRifling
Best thing to do is yell SLAPJACK everytime a jack is played. They love that in online poker.

They love it at the tables face to face too.. hehe. I love pissing people off.

Anebriated
08-09-2005, 11:15 PM
Online poker isnt too bad. If you can learn how to read peoples betting habits it can be fairly easy, and also helps when you play face-to-face.

Wezas
08-09-2005, 11:17 PM
Na, my program is for Atomic Poker (online game at popcap.com). It's more of a fun/weird type of poker.

Sean of the Thread
08-10-2005, 01:04 AM
Originally posted by Elrodin
Online poker isnt too bad. If you can learn how to read peoples betting habits it can be fairly easy, and also helps when you play face-to-face.

Can always tell the noobs that come to the tables fresh from online land. They have no table etiquette and are easy money.

Edaarin
08-10-2005, 01:14 AM
Soulpieced made me waste several hours of my life by introducing me to PartyPoker.

Luckily, the computer I'm currently using is almost as old as Parkbandit, so I haven't been tempted.

Volstock
08-10-2005, 05:25 AM
Partypoker is what I'm currently playing and it's slightly addictive. If anyone wanna play sometime IM me at Lrdkazami and we'll hook up.....and playign chess would be welcome ANYTIME

Rainy Day
08-10-2005, 07:51 AM
Originally posted by AnticorRifling
Best thing to do is yell SLAPJACK everytime a jack is played. They love that in online poker.

You almost made me spit out my drink with that. :lol:

RD

GSTamral
08-10-2005, 05:49 PM
<<
I would only suggest playing online poker if you consider yourself a "veteran" with at least 5-10 years of face to face real money experience.

>>

I wouldn’t necessarily say that. Learning poker takes time, but it varies from person to person. I will say that for some reason, online poker is far more difficult for most of the people I know than playing live.

Part of that problem may be that, when I walk into a casino, I bring anywhere from 300-1,000 with me, but I leave the wallet and bank card in the room, or at the shorehouse, whereas online, getting more funds is a point and click away.

I keep a worksheet of my poker income/losses, and to be honest, I'm not doing any better this year than last, even with the additional experience, and I really have only about 4 years experience playing Hold'em.

In approximately 50 hours of play this year at 1-2 no limit tables (200 buy in) over the course of 9 days, I am up about 3,300 playing live.
In approximately 60 hours of play this year at 2-5 no limit tables (500 buy in) over the course of 8 days, I am up about 2,600 playing live.
In approximately 20 hours of play this year at 5-10 no limit tables (1000 buy in) over the course of 3 days, I am up about 6,200 playing live. * to that because 6800 came in one day/night because there was a drunken bachelor party at the table, with 3 people basically providing monetary donations to everyone else.

For those of you thinking of playing live in a casino, I stress going out and getting a poker card, and making sure you keep track of your hours of play, and never let the average number of hours per trip drop under 5, even if that means just folding over and over for 40 minutes to make the 5th hour. Casinos track the hours per stay, and use that as a basis to award free rooms on some weekdays, and deeply discounted poker rooms all through the week ($69 for a room when the typical rate is $399), or $39 during the week for a room normally charging $189 at Borgata, and 69 vs 249 weekends/39 vs 169 at the Trop. Some casinos, such as the Trop or the Taj, will host 10 grand freerolls every month, where you can only enter the tournament if you have 30 logged hours of playing for the month.

Online, other than the WPT Event buy-in, which I only received 7,800 for, I am down more than 1500 this year. Part of that is due to the fact that I play a lot of online tournaments, and many of those tournaments have in excess of 1,500 players, with only 70 or so in the money positions. Most of the friends I play with and go to AC with have similar lines, winning far more money live than they do online, or outright losing most of their gains from live play online. Part of that may be the fact that there are a few drunks at every table, and there are plenty of tourists who just like to play and don't mind losing.

To me, being good at poker entails the following:
Not reading people like they show in the movies, but reading people's betting tendencies.
Not playing too many hands, but playing primarily quality cards.
Not investing too much faith in low and mid pocket pairs (at the con, no one more exemplified good play except for this than Phantazma-something) who kept going all in with ducks, threes and fours.
Being aggressive and chasing/sizing larger pots.
Knowing pot odds.
Knowing when to slowplay, when to protect a hand, and when to coldcall.
Understanding that folding is the most profitable move.
Understanding that it is not only ok, but the right move to lay down the better hand from time to time, even if you suspect it.
Knowing how to set a trap, and how to get away from a bad trap if you think the other player may have caught his card.

But anyways, after the last 3 weeks of hell on earth at work, I am very much looking forward to my first trip in a month to AC this weekend. I'll be at the Trop at one of the 2-5 tables trying to win some vacation money.

ElanthianSiren
08-10-2005, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by Yswithe
who's guilty of this habit?

didn't wezas have an "i win" program written for it?

Me. I love to play with my boyfriend. All risk/reward. :)

-M

Anebriated
08-10-2005, 06:19 PM
I went up to a casino in canada a few weeks back and did well. Doubled my money so I cant complain, and I would only consider myself an average player.

I agree with some of what Tamral said about what poker entails.

I do read people when I play. More their tendencies, do they blink when they get hands, play with their chips/hair etc. It doesn't always work but if you combine reading people with reading bets it works well.

Knowing pot odds is key.

Knowing that you can't lose what you don't bet is key.

Everyone has their own style of play, know your personal style and stick to it. To me this is one of the biggest things people miss when they first go to a casino.

Dwarven Empath
08-10-2005, 08:08 PM
When its your turn say..Uno!!!